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On October 15 2014 17:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2014 17:20 ritoky wrote:Regarding all of the early stuff in your post: 1) you don't follow through strongly on some of your reads. you elect to interact extensively regarding game philosophy with kush, you play flippyfloppy with geript and VE, yet some of your reads that you reference very frequently you do absolutely nothing to pursue or develop any further even though there is usually content to go through or a person to interact with. DP didn't have that deficiency imo. So yes, for that and a couple other reasons you are leaning mafia for me. On October 15 2014 17:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Question to you: Which ones of your strong townreads you followed to Oats lynch on D1? VE and CR That is totally wrong. Point out to everyone where i do not do so. I have been extremely clear about who i think is mafia and why my reads change when they do. I have been the MOST clear person regarding this in the game. Point out where i do not follow through on my reads and not just make some statements without any proof. I find it very hard to believe you actually think this is the case but if you really think so i want you to explain why so i can get a better read on you. It's good that you are actually having an opinion on something, now back up what you say with some actual evidence. Show nested quote +On October 15 2014 17:23 ritoky wrote:
the 2 got deleted when i was erasing the rest of your quote. rip.
2 was something like this:
2) your pressuring on kush is primarily placed in policy reasons and most of your interaction with him is regarding personal philosophy on how to play. your discussion with him prompted 0 information that could give you a read. that's not pressuring him. How is it possible to have any other reason for thinking kush is mafia other than "he is not playing the game"? Do you suggest i didn't try to get information from kush during N1? How do you suggest i should have approached the situation on N1? What should have i asked him about then? Show nested quote +On October 15 2014 17:25 ritoky wrote:
further, as i have said in many games, i find that around 80% of the time the first person to list the lurkers in the game and suggest killing them or that they are the mafia is mafia. i don't know if you were precisely the first; i plan to go back and look, but you were very early on in the running for lynch the lurkers. So then you must think GlowingBear is mafia. Go back and re-read. This is another contradiction because I EVEN POINTED OUT GLOWINGBEAR SUDDENLY WANTED TO LYNCH ALL THE LURKERS when he was on the line of getting lynched!!! Your game is all over the place ritoky, and the compilation of your reads doesn't make any sense at all because you are accusing all the people who cannot be mafia together. rofl. What the fuck are you doing?
1st part: your read on me. you actively refuse to read my posts until now yet have me listed as mafia.
2nd part: i think his throwaway vote on a confirmed townie is a good place to start on solid info on kush.
3rd part: it's only really the 1st person that matters. and yes i think GB is mafia, i have for a while. him wanting to do it doesn't mean you didn't do it as well.
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On October 15 2014 17:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Your game is all over the place ritoky, and the compilation of your reads doesn't make any sense at all because you are accusing all the people who cannot be mafia together. rofl. What the fuck are you doing?
Who is mutually exclusive from who from being mafia together? I wasn't aware that people are so strongly associated that it is actually impossible for them to be mafia together. I mean, bussing isn't a thing right? Please enlighten me on this perfect knowledge you have.
Also your defense seems quite exaggerated and over the top especially from someone you have thought is scum for a long time. Especially when I have only stated I think you're leaning mafia for me. GB is pretty clearly the lynch for me today unless something jesus worthy happens.
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On October 15 2014 18:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:1st: Again. I have already stated why i am not focusing on you atm. You are not my top suspect and i do not want to lynch you atm. wtf is this? should i be pushing all my reads that are not solely town? that's retarded. you don't focus on too many places at once. 2nd: That is a really bad observation. So why am i not town then because i basically hard defended that said confirmed town for the whole fucking D1 when it would have been the easiest mislynch ever? Also Sn0 was NOT a confirmed townie on D1, so you are twisting the facts. 3rd: so only the first person matters but i did it TOO so it makes also ME scummy?????!?!? hahahahah!  It is impossible that i am mafia with either GB or kush. If you can't see that i'll lynch you today. So you better drop either me or both of those guys on your scumlist in case you are town. The reasons are obvious for anyone who has paid any attention to the game and therefore i am not willing to elaborate on them. Yes, bussing is a thing. Unnecessary bussing is not, at least it's not for me. How the FUCK does it make any sense i - as mafia - tell people to lynch all claims - then GB - as my partner - fucking fakeclaims the next second? NEVER! If i was mafia with kush i would just call him an idiot and ignore him because i could very well do that, every-fucking-body has ignored him so far so i could do that aswell, easily. But no, instead of that you are suggesting there is a possibility that i am bussing him, for no fucking reason?!?!?!?! Dude you are either playing quite badly or scum. Which is it? And no, i am not defending myself because there is nothing to defend to. I am trying to figure out your alignment and so far you're not looking quite dandy because you make absolutely no sense in ANYTHING you say. You are just throwing shit left and right without actually thinking what anything people actually say means.
1) i like developing my reads on people over the course of the game. regardless of if they are my express target or not. you actively refused to read my posts (not town thing to do) and you did not develop anything from your interaction with kush other than fluffity fluff fluff.
2) you interacted with him more than ANYONE in the entire thread AFTER he had flipped; and didn't even mention it once. if he refuses to answer, that's on him; but you didn't even try. yet he gets scum read. mhm. i think there's a level of conceit to your game.
3) like i said it's only the first person that matters in the statistics. i said it earlier, but apparently you're still not reading what i am typing. i remember you being one of the first, but maybe not the first. i plan to go back and look.
It is possible that you're mafia with GB and/or kush. So you better start pushing a lynch on me. Is it likely that the mafia team is rayn/gb/kush? No, probably not. But I certainly don't deny it is POSSIBLE. The rest of this is basically like me saying "Hey, I voted on a guy 10 mins before the deadline who was already 4 votes over being dead, so I am confirmed town amirite?" There's no real substance. It's unflipped associated, further it's unflipped associated not backed up with votes.
And if you don't think you're both defending yourself and overreacting to the minimal accusations of someone you supposedly think is scum; you might want to re-read your posts. If that doesn't work, you need to improve your English or reading comprehension. Quite defensive.
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On October 15 2014 18:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ritoky explain to me why you did read VE & CR as top town on D1.
That's not clear from your posting at all.
VE I made pretty clear early on. He has done nothing but re-enforce it with his play. I mean....I don't see how you could see him as not town right now. Especially because he pretty much solo beat a fake claim to death with a stick.
CR:
On October 13 2014 04:50 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2014 23:25 GlowingBear wrote:
He then townreads sqrt. He came to the thread, made a joke and lurked. Contributed with nothing. When he posts his reads, he is town because he have different reads from everybody? Do you think this is alignment indicative? I don't.
Why do you think this makes me mafia, yet DP isn't when DP arrives at literally almost word for word the exact same conclusion on sqrt a couple pages later? Your criticism is uneven; dat be a maf indicator. Your post about me felt like you were committed to scum reading me because of what you said last night, not particularly because you had a scum read on me. Very forced, over-committing. I also completely agree with CR about the point he made regarding over-stating how you're at a party even though no one prompted it.
On October 13 2014 09:43 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2014 07:56 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Okay, I'm back, but I have a really busy thanksgiving weekend. I'll touch on the people who I haven't yet, and go back to the festivities.
Barakos has few posts, but they are all really good.
Rayn is null
Kush hasn't done anything.
Neither has Sn0.
Ritoky is interesting. I have no idea what all the food pictures are.
Oats is town.
My vote is on glowingbear. Don't expect me to talk until tuesday. Another person telling us how busy they are, cool beans. While you were so busy you managed to glance through the thread and give some baseless and unexplained feeling reads, which is cute and all. But you obviously didn't care about them too much since you seem to think barakos and rayn are separate people and deserve separate reads. Beginning to believe a bit more in CR's case regarding you not giving a crap about the thread. Though I doubt you will read or respond to this, get back to me on Tuesday yeah? W/e.
Was it not there, or were you not reading cuz of the food pictures? CR made me begin to doubt my read on sqrt because his post was good, and sqrt has only continued in the same vein of play since then. His points about GB being defensive and overstating being at a party without being prompted were my exact thoughts, he just typed them before I could. And, unlike you, I don't think he would vote on a very clearly already dead townie, as mafia, 10 mins before the deadline.
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On October 15 2014 05:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:Whatever. I gotta get up in about 5 hours so: First of all; Never trust any claims and lynch them!!! Seriously. There is no way either of Hopeless or DarthPunk is fakeclaiming. I am willing to take all the blame of the loss of this game if we do lose because one of them was fakeclaiming and i am wrong. But i am not going to be wrong. geript is already setting himself up for fakeclaiming doctor. In addition to all said before lynch the shit outta him, he is mafia. Go read the Survivor Series game and his filter. In the game people were set on lynching Corazon D1. Noone wanted to lynch Grackaroni or Oats. See how geript approaches the lynch. He just pushes something he can never get lynched with a weak case. Like in this game. I think he was doing the same thing with Damdred here. There was really no way Damdred was gonna get lynched but still, for some reason geript didn't push Oats who was his second scumread while making a case on him. I don't think the "size" of the case matters but if geript has a scumread on both of the people he would push the one he can realisticly get lynched, he is good enough to figure out. I also don't even think he could actually read Damdred mafia as strong as he claims as i pointed out at the start of N1. Lynch geript, he is mafia. Then lynch kushmasta. He is not playing. He is more interested in talking about irrelevant stuff than he is interested in playing the game. That is a scumtell. Hell the dude even claims "i really wanted to play" at the start of the game!!!! Does it look like he has any interest in playing? No it doesn't. mafia!kush doesn't play. Go look at his past town games and i bet you can find a game where he gives reads during the night. I am 100% sure you can find a game in his past 5 town games but i just don't care to check it right now. If you don't believe me go check it out. Then lynch ritoky. He is the definition of blending in. I don't give a shit about his past town games (i only remember the one where he was the bomb or some shit). I can't just remember anything he has said - at all. scum. In one of his posts he said he "sheeped his strong town reads on Oats". If i am alive at D2 i am going to see if there is indication of which of me, VE, DP and geript he read "strong town". because i am sure he didn't read ME as strong town, not by his posting. Check that out. I bet that one stinks as fuck if you want complete proof. Keep an eye on CR and sqrt. sqrt promised to read, he's been reading for quite a long time already. Expect and demand reads from them. CR can say smart stuff as mafia but usually makes one big post / phase that looks "good" and that's pretty much it. Make both of them play the game and do more stuff they have. They are never mafia together. Never ever lynch VE. He is not going to be mafia this game. GB most likely not mafia aswell. If he is scum inactives fucked up the game because there is just no room to lynch GB as there is no time, you absolutely need to figure out other people. That's the priority as GB looks 100x better than those three "heavily mafia" and two "at least possible mafia". VE & DP please don't lose tha game in case i die. Lynch those fucker scum for the win! Goodluck. Godspeed.
I mean, is this the proof you want? You claim to have never wanted to lynch lurkers. You want to lynch me, kush, geript, sqrt, and CR as your top 4 at this point. Thats 4 of the shortest filters + geript.
As I stated, the statistic only works on the first person to mention it, and I plan to go back and look at whom that was; but I mean I am not stupid. Don't just bold faced lie that you didn't do it. Yeah you have crap side reasons that are meh, doesn't make it a non-list of lurkers.
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On October 15 2014 19:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +1) i like developing my reads on people over the course of the game. regardless of if they are my express target or not. you actively refused to read my posts (not town thing to do) and you did not develop anything from your interaction with kush other than fluffity fluff fluff. Incorrect. I actively refused to answer you/talk to you because your posting was just fluff that didn't accomplish anything. Show nested quote +2) you interacted with him more than ANYONE in the entire thread AFTER he had flipped; and didn't even mention it once. if he refuses to answer, that's on him; but you didn't even try. yet he gets scum read. mhm. i think there's a level of conceit to your game. Are you talking about his vote? I don't find it a scum/town tell. Why would i mention non-alignment indicative stuff? You say "if he doesn't answer it's on him". But then it's bad i scumread him for it?!?!?!? Like should i scumread him or townread him because he didn't want to push the game forward? I scumread him for it. How is this scummy? YOU JUST SAID IT IS THE CORRECT CONCLUSION!!!!
It is an issue of process how do you not get that by now?
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On October 15 2014 19:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
In that post i am not saying i want to lynch sqrt or CR.
That is completely twist of what i was. I am clearly saying "keep an eye on them" because they have posted so little it's hard to figure out their alignment. Maybe you should learn some reading comprehension yourself...
you say they aren't mafia together, but you are very clearly stating that if we miss on the above 3/i change on one of them, then these 2 are next in line.
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On October 15 2014 19:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2014 19:01 ritoky wrote:On October 15 2014 18:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ritoky explain to me why you did read VE & CR as top town on D1.
That's not clear from your posting at all. VE I made pretty clear early on. He has done nothing but re-enforce it with his play. I mean....I don't see how you could see him as not town right now. Especially because he pretty much solo beat a fake claim to death with a stick. CR: On October 13 2014 04:50 ritoky wrote:On October 12 2014 23:25 GlowingBear wrote:
He then townreads sqrt. He came to the thread, made a joke and lurked. Contributed with nothing. When he posts his reads, he is town because he have different reads from everybody? Do you think this is alignment indicative? I don't.
Why do you think this makes me mafia, yet DP isn't when DP arrives at literally almost word for word the exact same conclusion on sqrt a couple pages later? Your criticism is uneven; dat be a maf indicator. Your post about me felt like you were committed to scum reading me because of what you said last night, not particularly because you had a scum read on me. Very forced, over-committing. I also completely agree with CR about the point he made regarding over-stating how you're at a party even though no one prompted it. On October 13 2014 09:43 ritoky wrote:On October 13 2014 07:56 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Okay, I'm back, but I have a really busy thanksgiving weekend. I'll touch on the people who I haven't yet, and go back to the festivities.
Barakos has few posts, but they are all really good.
Rayn is null
Kush hasn't done anything.
Neither has Sn0.
Ritoky is interesting. I have no idea what all the food pictures are.
Oats is town.
My vote is on glowingbear. Don't expect me to talk until tuesday. Another person telling us how busy they are, cool beans. While you were so busy you managed to glance through the thread and give some baseless and unexplained feeling reads, which is cute and all. But you obviously didn't care about them too much since you seem to think barakos and rayn are separate people and deserve separate reads. Beginning to believe a bit more in CR's case regarding you not giving a crap about the thread. Though I doubt you will read or respond to this, get back to me on Tuesday yeah? W/e. Was it not there, or were you not reading cuz of the food pictures? CR made me begin to doubt my read on sqrt because his post was good, and sqrt has only continued in the same vein of play since then. His points about GB being defensive and overstating being at a party without being prompted were my exact thoughts, he just typed them before I could. And, unlike you, I don't think he would vote on a very clearly already dead townie, as mafia, 10 mins before the deadline. Yes that's what i would expect you to answer... mostly. Read on CR is fine and makes sense. Can you point out the posts from VE that made you think he is town early on?
On October 12 2014 07:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi guys I'm town YAAAAAAYY!!!
I like that people are in here saying stuff. I don't know if any of it is alignment indicative - ask me again once I've read it all. For now, I know I've seen geript in here nitpicking about others' wording in their posts trying to make it alignment indicative, so I'm going to call him my top town for now.
GOOD GAME SCUM, TRY AND DEFEAT A GERIPT/VE TOWNTEAM OF DENSITY!!!
On October 12 2014 07:23 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2014 07:22 geript wrote:
This is going to be sweet. I think we're all town. I wonder who between DP, VE and myself they're going to risk shooting. Me I think. But then I might be the best medic save too. Metametametametameta
On October 12 2014 10:49 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2014 10:48 ritoky wrote:
how's everyone doing?
what's everybody havin for dinner tonight? i am having a nice pasta primavera. I had pizza. It was confirmed delish.
On October 12 2014 12:06 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2014 12:04 ritoky wrote:On October 12 2014 12:02 DarthPunk wrote:
In case I wasn't clear earlier. I will policy lynch a shit poster with geript. And we WILL push that motherfucker through if we both want it.
I am willing to lose the game and just lynch all these fucking useless players.
in 1 post, i have provided more content than 3 of your pages. so what if i surround it with 5 posts of talking about food. i like food, don't you? how come you and geript are now a package deal. buddying up much? Hey you mess with those guys you mess with me too pal. What you think I'm mafia too bro? What exactly are you accusing me of?
do i need to keep going? i am basically quoting every 3rd post.
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On October 15 2014 19:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2014 12:12 ritoky wrote:On October 12 2014 12:06 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 12 2014 12:04 ritoky wrote:On October 12 2014 12:02 DarthPunk wrote:
In case I wasn't clear earlier. I will policy lynch a shit poster with geript. And we WILL push that motherfucker through if we both want it.
I am willing to lose the game and just lynch all these fucking useless players.
in 1 post, i have provided more content than 3 of your pages. so what if i surround it with 5 posts of talking about food. i like food, don't you? how come you and geript are now a package deal. buddying up much? Hey you mess with those guys you mess with me too pal. What you think I'm mafia too bro? What exactly are you accusing me of? i am accusing you of aligning yourself heavily with people who are traffic copping (moreso darth than geript). 1 of which i think is playing dissimilar to his normal town game, and the other who i have never played with, but seems sour. Interesting. Care to clarify this post because this doesn't look like a townread to me? And it happened after the posts you quoted.
? I didn't like with whom my top town read at the time was associating himself strongly with. I mean, that's pretty clearly stated. It doesn't particularly have to do with VE, it has to do with me being a dick to DP cuz he was a dick to me and me not liking him buddying geript when geript is sketchy. Don't see how that besmirches my town read on VE in the slightest.
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There's this thing right. Where you can have a read on someone that is independent of their relations with others at the start of the game. It's pretty amazing, you should try it sometime.
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Anywayz, was a nice chat rayn; going to sleep now. Lynching GB is the way to go for now.
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Sorry for the crappy play and the sudden sub, there was a death in my family. I hope people understand.
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