Fantasy Football (FFL) Mini

On October 06 2014 23:24 Grackaroni wrote:

lol actually no. I would probably wait to see if something like this ends up happening.

I'm just saying because you're so insistent that what Batsnacks did was shit for finding mafia and then you argued that the first people to join the claim would be town. Which should actually make Batsnack's plan helpful as now you're town reading people for claiming.

On October 07 2014 01:32 Alakaslam wrote:

I think paraphrasing is an awesome tool for scum.

That actually is not quite what oats has been saying sson

On October 07 2014 00:16 batsnacks wrote:
Game didn't start on page 1

Bat traps too strong

On October 07 2014 01:36 Alakaslam wrote:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/468053-fantasy-football-ffl-mini?user=Oatsmaster

There is all the proof you should require that you are not quoting oats and are therefore attributing further angst to his posts than he actually had (which was plenty)

American politics

On October 07 2014 02:16 Alakaslam wrote:
Hello Bamcis chef of the east side of the west.

You said I was skummi earlier with no reasons

I wants your reezinz

On October 07 2014 02:13 StorrZerg wrote:


I find the act of seeking to trap someone town mindset, specially within the start of the game. It generates something to talk about which is good.

You. Claimed with your first post in a "cute way" i don't like that. The way you are interacting with the oats/bats situation is weird, sets off my scumdar

On October 07 2014 02:26 KelsierSC wrote:
So I have never played with bh but i really don't like what he just did.

firstly i thought we were looking along some interesting lines with hf and hell, then bh did this huge RNG nothingness that served nothing except to disrupt town.

he then tries to justify his rng like hey this is actually a good idea because he is inactive?

it introduces him to the thread in a splashy way but all it does.is disrupt town.

On October 07 2014 02:42 Blazinghand wrote:
The only "trap" here to fall into is the trap of not voting for OO

On October 07 2014 14:18 Alakaslam wrote:
So I think ObiWanShinobi stuff is null.

He could just, you know, not know who is scum yet

And yet want to do something

But not cool with tossin Chupazi around. But yeah scum do what he is doing too.

I think OO may just simply be the lynch but not to stop finding a better target; why shouldn't I be up for lynch hey?

On October 07 2014 14:36 Alakaslam wrote:
Both of you can't even remember what you what

Speak of how scummy I am! I shalt defense myself by becoming a massive dragon

On October 07 2014 12:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


I don't feel particularly confident reading either of those players right now. I'm looking, and they look kind of town I guess...Maybe.

I have no solid wisdom to impart here, lool.

On October 07 2014 14:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


You might. I don't.

And I didn't even read your filter. I don't know what you're trying to do here.

On October 07 2014 11:05 Alakaslam wrote:
I have seen this same dumb shut storm in 5 games already.

3 in which I played.

Liancourt I now know, you are not a smurf.

On October 07 2014 16:22 Alakaslam wrote:
What about ObiWanShinobi changing his story

I think Obi is quite clearly town, Since he got in the game he has been active and questioning Dama and Lian seems like the correct angle as both appear a bit scummy ( I read Dam as town but that is because I played with him before)
he seems to be reading the game the same way as me. Doesn't like the RNG nonsense and wants town to discuss something else. He seems genuinely pissed off with HF voting him out the blue.

On October 07 2014 16:17 KelsierSC wrote:
Just to update on HF.

I think his interaction with obi makes him scummy.

Firstly he asked "when are you going to do something" when it seems to me that obi was asking questions and trying to get things done. Then he just votes him out of the blue for the reason of "filter"...ok that is just a terrible explanation. if you are going to vote on someone at least accuse them of something scummy.
Then it turns out his huge reason is because obi hasn't called anyone town or scum instantly . It is reasonable that obi has reads but didn't want to give them yet or he was getting his reads based on questioning dam/lia.
Just felt like HF called him scum and then had to find a reason for it.

On October 07 2014 16:22 Alakaslam wrote:
What about ObiWanShinobi changing his story

On October 07 2014 17:04 KelsierSC wrote:
Lian who are your mafia at the moment?

You said people were overreacting and iffy but do you have any people you would lynch right now?

On October 07 2014 22:16 Holyflare wrote:
Obi had 24 hours of game time to read the thread, make conclusions and post reads. I can get that he is busy but the first thing he said on his return was that he was reading the thread. After about half an hour of apparently not reading the thread he returns and only repeatedly told people that what bh was doing wasn't scummy hence why I called him out on not doing anything useful because it was already stated multiple times that what BH was doing is in fact null. So not only does he skirt by with no real reads he appears to contribute in lieu of actually participating by rehashing the same thing over and over again.

On October 08 2014 00:38 StorrZerg wrote:
The Damning Case of liancourt




This is my frist prod. Now lets look at the questions he asks. Interested in why bats is town (cool fine) interested in why "he is scum" , not "why are you reading me scum" Now the reason i am reading him scum for these 2 posts is because of how he approches the situation. Its very early day 1, and its "we can't scum read oats for this" yet "i agree he over reacted"
how ever "i think he joked" you kinda see the ebb and flow of this guys play. And this kind of talking is going to be very repetitive and not productive for town. He isn't taking a stance on situations, he is giving himself room for error, its overtly cautious play.

Now the reason for quoting his soft / hard claim. I find his commenting on oats combined with his claim contradicting. He has an asap claim (after slam) that he is VT. (so he is following in the foot steps of someone else) Then admits the only one option to claim and that's VT, and is against that bats did anything helpful. (and bats is likely scummy for doing so) Yet he doesn't actually calls bat scum for it. "it is a perfect excuse for scum to say" He isn't calling bats scum, he is just saying bats could be scum for making that play. There fore he isn't taking a stance on bats.



Commenting on slams scum team. He takes out HF for agreeing with hopeless, yet he really hasn't said much on myself. Sure he has all ready called bats as "maybe scum" Yet he hasn't talked about me at all. If anything this points to an omgus reaction to me calling him out.



I really don't like this post, its a generalization of whats going on, with no effort to further the game. He has been against RNG lynch, but is "coming around" on the lead wagon with "OO" is strange sure... Again, he doesn't have a case of his own, or pushing anyone he thinks is scummy. Just content with small town reads here and there, 1 liners.



The question is, who does he think are scummy?

1. bh. Null
2. grack Null
3. obi hf 2 town fighting
4. oats town
5. hopeless is iffy, hasn't been paying attention to him.
6. Back to OO being strange
7. bats town

So "damd palmar storr" as mafia? (yes he puts it in a question mark. Is he unsure he walked through everyone? is he sure he picked the right people to call mafia? 2 people fairly inactive. )
His scum read on damd is "not giving away to much" since he only asks questions
and scum read on palmar + storr "haven't done anything worth mentioning"

And of course ends with "but ill wait until tomorrow until they opst to be sure" he is leaving himself an out, an escape to make sure people don't read to much into what he is saying.

He was asked a direct question of who he thinks are scum. And the response is in its basic form, a list post full with null kinda towns strange iffy, and 2 inactive people as possible mafia. This is scummy play.



Questioned again on who his scum are and the big thing that points out is "i don't think i ever said storr and damd were a better lynch than OO" How ever by the virtue of his list post he did. He points out as OO being possible town, and then STRANGE.

And ends with 3 scum within palmar damd storr" More overly defensive posting, and avoiding of finding scum.




So liancourt is content with asking questions, giving light town reads, as a claimed vt, he is unwilling to actually pressure anyone.

#LYNCHWITHFIRE
##Vote liancourt

On October 08 2014 01:32 Holyflare wrote:


He came up with the idea that being on an rng wagon would be a very convenient place to hide because then people are just following a rng post and they don't give any information, that IS scummy and is the correct thing to point out. Then, when people who he is scum reading start to interact more and flesh out things he drops that scum read because it goes against what he was originally saying. He continues to scum read BH because he hasn't played with BH and what BH does is terrible=scummy, hearing a million people say it is in fact null moved him to seriously reconsider his stance on BH from scummy to null. His read on oats was before most people even said anything about oats and gave oats room to express more things and in fact showed better reading comprehension than me/batsnacks etc etc. The only weird thing is the OO thing and I'd much rather he explained himself out fully on this instead because I envisage that another skydragon event will occur.

Just because you disagree with his thought process does not mean that it is quite evidently there.

On October 08 2014 04:07 Holyflare wrote:


im not sure how this makes sense either

On October 09 2014 11:46 Holyflare wrote:
actually fuck it, the rber died, I AM actually the vigilante and all my reads have been hidden

i know you may hate me but I'm ACTUALLY shooting BH, I will very likely die tonight so tomorrow hopefully the cop checks like lian or hopeless (probably hopeless best)

On October 09 2014 11:55 Grackaroni wrote:
HF seeing as you're probably going to get shot, you want to leave some final reads?

On October 09 2014 13:06 Alakaslam wrote:
...

Well

On October 09 2014 22:47 Alakaslam wrote:
Hah!

Kelsier caught on!

Tell me how I could be scum I will destroy

On October 10 2014 05:12 batsnacks wrote:
Lol Chelsea

That's pretty funny

On October 10 2014 06:38 StorrZerg wrote:


wasn't being serious dork

On October 10 2014 08:07 Damdred wrote:
If i was so into tunneling i would be going for bats right now honesty has the one who voted me free all. However i think you re decently scullery now you are soft pushing hoping for support.

I've pressured people asked questions nd did a case. So not as unless slyly make out. Why he you singing?

And in not ignoring you blazing up respond in depth when i hit a comp or better signl

On October 11 2014 00:57 Hopeless1der wrote:

I'm going through the game and making certain that those two are in fact the scummiest players to me before I go about pushing a lynch on anyone. Does that not make sense? Should I just RNG a new target and push them incessantly instead of reading the game?

This post Mod 12, storr is 0

On October 11 2014 02:19 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Damdred is mafia because

On October 07 2014 07:11 Damdred wrote:
Kel when you get back will you tell me what he actively disturbed? Was our thread conversation that good at the time?

On October 07 2014 09:18 Damdred wrote:
We have past games on BH stored in the database though you can go look at them. We are just telling you that THIS is not an alignment thing that BH does. Its pretty obvious that BH seems interested in D1 so far and is contributing so i'm giving him a big town slap on the back right now.

Hell even in his big RNG post he said hewas willing to go over to a better case...though BH does get kind of tunneled sometimes. But why wouldn't OO fight with everything he had not to be the lynch? He just went and voted himself instead, thats the disturbing part of it all.

On October 07 2014 12:43 Damdred wrote:


Well it is mostly my opinion that an rng lynch won't hold up today. It could be very well that BH gets it done if that's what he pushes.

On October 08 2014 09:01 Damdred wrote:
OO when you catch up you have to talk to me. Right now you are a plague on the thread, if we don't kill you at this point tommorow will be ruled about the lynch that should of been, so eight now I am inclined to lynch you just so we can focus on other things tommorow.

However I don't like policy lynched, so pretend I have a gun to your head give me your best scum reads when done and we will go from their 3 would be great

On October 08 2014 10:12 Damdred wrote:
Meh I'm going to vote for oo he hasn't tried to bleed town yet

On October 08 2014 13:09 Damdred wrote:
BH will be insufferable now d1 with rng lynch, but he has converted me

On October 09 2014 03:12 Damdred wrote:


Couldn't BH manipulate it before he posted it though so that it did not come up a scum buddy? Though in tin hat land this woudl be amazing for him to get town cred for life

On October 10 2014 21:30 Damdred wrote:
In HF I trust, and I realize I can't get lia lynched today unto the other person I think is scum then.

Kel, I never said I was tunneling him. Infact i'm pretty sure besides that one post and calling him out for not doing anything i've not tunneled on him really. Also I have done things this game, my case is close to storrs but I still feel it scum reads him for slightly different reasons, the list post reason is the same but meh. And I wanted to make a case and try to get my top scum read lynched.

You are TMz. You really don't care who wins or loses, you just want to get as much press no matter how much truthiness it may have. Every night you may pm the host #delayedmediablitz PlayerName; that player will receive a media image injury (1KP) at the start of the day 1 cycle from now (eg. if you target someone on Night 1, they will be hit by 1 KP at the start of Day 3). You start with a bullet-proof vest to protect yourself from players like Plexico Burress (it takes 2 KP to kill you). You are a Third Party Poisoner.

On October 11 2014 02:44 Alakaslam wrote:

I am busy posting as a landlocked 16 year old lovesick red headed Princess of the sea people.

Because right when I say "damd totes town" hopeless1der comes in here with dat case

On October 11 2014 02:47 Alakaslam wrote:

See my previous post

On October 11 2014 02:52 Alakaslam wrote:



You do that

On October 11 2014 05:37 Hopeless1der wrote:
Half of your case is "redcheck" nonsense, can you blame BH for being semi-illiterate?

On October 11 2014 02:52 Alakaslam wrote:



You do that

On October 11 2014 09:55 Blazinghand wrote:
hf you must just be trolling us at this point

On October 11 2014 10:23 Alakaslam wrote:
I find it amusing, during the timing I wanted to be misread, folks were in a firm "slam is untouchable" mindset

Now folks be like "I have no clue what he is"

Like you all drunk foh dayz? Sloooooooow reaction times.

Everyone all like "slam maybe scum taunting us? Mebbe he is scum?"

When all n1, it was like 10,000 yandere at HF

Like srs

What could yandere mean but poison?

And acted like BH not gonna die. That was other 3p the martyr claim.

But only now, after I had been yelling "I AM SKIMMU ATTAX ME" day 1 now ppl waking up to see some train left on a plane long ago.

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On October 11 2014 10:35 StorrZerg wrote:



cool. i can't wait to talk post game

On October 11 2014 10:35 Alakaslam wrote:

Yes but you thinks I own perfection?

For should not there be a mistake in the act, revealing to thee my true motive?

On October 12 2014 13:46 StorrZerg wrote:
liam shot was good will help town focus. lets be honest he was probably going to be the lynch today if he wasn't shot

On October 13 2014 10:08 Alakaslam wrote:
What you want me to do HF

On October 14 2014 00:08 Alakaslam wrote:
It is a complex, but understandable issue of math and probability.

HolyFlare can take a shot and was over-townie day one. He soaked a shot from scum, and poisoned BH. Night two who knows who he poisoned but scum took a shot and so did Grack. Scum did not shoot BH. The way I deduce this is reaction to my incessant, I would say obvious threats in anime form that I was poisoner (Yandere after Yandere; what else COULD that mean to someone who does in fact read my antics)

And I promise you HolyFlare does.

As reassurance, HolyFlare, at the moment I have ceased referencing the loo every time I say "Aluminium"

Did I spell that wrong?

On October 14 2014 00:15 Alakaslam wrote:

That calling me out is largely the reason I think you were actually aware of their meaning.

Otherwise, why bother?

See, you are sitting on a fence. On one side is town behaviour, on the other, scum behaviour.

Town behaviour is to call me out even as I perform these antics; this you did not do.

Scum behaviour is to ignore me, or act just like town (scum is WIFOM). This you did not do!

Rather, you called me out during the day. In a convenient manner.