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On October 10 2014 08:55 liancourt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 08:41 StorrZerg wrote:On October 10 2014 08:36 liancourt wrote:On October 10 2014 08:27 Damdred wrote:
I am not sure how you have been tunnel in the past but why in doing now is not that. Stop is probably closest not yet.
However if you want make a case on me atm you need to revisit my filter.
I didn't reread stores case before i did mine so if theirs overlay my apologies had more to st but ran out of time. However i think their are different views invite cases that hedge same conclusions I'm sorry damd it must be my scum vision on you, but all I'm reading is you trying to wiggle your way out of saying that you copied storr by claiming you didnt read his before you did yours. No one can confirm that story sorry damd but you're becoming scummier by every post you make. why is it so hard for you to take 10 mins to show what you are talking about instead of just talking out of your waszzzoo for all the credit HF gave you day 1, with how your town read of "bh" evolved, your evolution of your scum reads over the game have not changed at all. The same case you made against me day 1, is the same case you have day 2. and "nothing" has changed. because "im not reading other people as you claim" thus you have no ability or will to bother growing your read on me. (copy paste this for palmar/damd too what not) how about actually doing something besides talking to me or asking others' opinions of me? how about something not related tome like... giving reads on others hmm? then i can analyze you. Or maybe you don't wnat that to happen so you're having this nonsensical farce with me that's getting absolutely nowhere.
i scum read hopeless and posted it...
"bam"
go make a case
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On October 10 2014 08:46 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 08:44 liancourt wrote:On October 10 2014 08:34 StorrZerg wrote:On October 10 2014 08:30 liancourt wrote:On October 10 2014 08:23 StorrZerg wrote:On October 10 2014 08:20 liancourt wrote:
you know what I'll just vote you until you give a read on someone else, but me and actually help town instead of tunneling me.
##Vote StorrZerg is anyone complaining about my lack of reads? or is it just you? What is this logic? Do more people have to complain of your lack of reads for you to be scum? Based on my logic, you know I'm town because you are scum. You pick the scummiest town player on d1, which was undoubtedly me because everyone was giving me shit and you knew you could get easy support if you rolled out a half decent case basically mix and matching what everyone else has said before. So, I'm just gonna keep on complaining until you give other reads besides me cos I'm so stubborn. you bitching about my lack of reads from a single person isn't going to make me do anything. thats the logic. i picked you at the start of the game. before anyone else got a conclusion. I then watched you, waited for you to do something productive, when you hadn't that's when i made my full blown case. you still are doing a very poor job in convincing anyone else to do 1. not vote hopeless (cause you think he is town idk why) 2. put pressure on me. 3. put pressure on damd pro scum strat picking one person before he does anything. Town should be looking at the whole picture and finding things odd in it not tunnel visioning one player and seeing if he fucks up or not. It's like you're saying you wanted to find any reasons which I can blame him for being scummy. no you had done something, which is why you caught my eye.
At least i did something unlike you
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I have done things which is why in generally town read. My filter has enough to make a case out of....well for as much as yo company we event done anything what have you done
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On October 10 2014 08:54 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 08:48 liancourt wrote:On October 10 2014 08:38 Blazinghand wrote:On October 10 2014 08:32 liancourt wrote:On October 10 2014 08:25 Blazinghand wrote:On October 10 2014 08:22 StorrZerg wrote:On October 10 2014 08:21 Blazinghand wrote:On October 10 2014 08:20 liancourt wrote:
you know what I'll just vote you until you give a read on someone else, but me and actually help town instead of tunneling me.
##Vote StorrZerg oi what's wrong with voting ows cause he reading ows town now arg, but ows has done nothing even remotely useful or town-oriented! all he has done is try to save OO (laughably) and backtrack it, then follow his scumread (who he now claims is a townread) to push h1 how in the name of THE LORD do you have a tonwread on ows???? i posted it on an earlier post look through my filter having difficulty finding it. HEre you seem to be scumreading him: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/468053-fantasy-football-ffl-mini?page=66#1316 is it this? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/468053-fantasy-football-ffl-mini?page=82#1640i can't find any times you mention him after scumreading him in that post, please help me. yea the second one good job So basically you thought OWS was scum because Show nested quote +On October 09 2014 14:20 liancourt wrote:On October 07 2014 10:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 07 2014 10:35 Damdred wrote:On October 07 2014 09:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 07 2014 09:18 Damdred wrote:
We have past games on BH stored in the database though you can go look at them. We are just telling you that THIS is not an alignment thing that BH does. Its pretty obvious that BH seems interested in D1 so far and is contributing so i'm giving him a big town slap on the back right now.
Hell even in his big RNG post he said hewas willing to go over to a better case...though BH does get kind of tunneled sometimes. But why wouldn't OO fight with everything he had not to be the lynch? He just went and voted himself instead, thats the disturbing part of it all. What conclusion are you drawing from his self vote/actions leading up to it? You say it's disturbing but you haven't followed it up with anything. Of course its disturbing in that he did not fight at all really acted excited about it. I guess a trolling town could act like that and its not alignment showing at all in that regard. But no fight whatsoever was drawn out of OO just an acceptance which is scummy. I don't really see how it matters either way when nobody is actually going to lynch him like this. You say this at the start of the day, it's like you want everyone to brush OO off as a serious lynch in a I don't really care way and then you say moments later this On October 07 2014 11:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
This is going to be a really small postcount game. Nobody else seems interested in moving the thread forward which really bothers me.
Bleed towniness. It seemed to me like you wanted to move away from the whole OO business so you wanted to start a new topic. This is all in hindsight after knowing OO's alignment and thought it odd in my eyes after rereading the early game. of the reasons here. Basically, you think OWS's relationship to the OO lynch, the flipped scum, makes him town. He was trying to brush off the lynch and move the discussion away from OO. However, simply because OWS' response to an attack on you is this: Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 02:18 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
There's merit to it.
A good case doesn't necessarily mean that the accused is mafia. It could just mean that the guy posting it is paying attention and trying to piece things together. which although accurate, is hilariously noncommimttal, you reverse your read and now no longer want to lynch OWS. You think scum OWS would have attacked you (over h1, who is certainly getting lynched regardless), you who is loud and stubborn. Since he didn't, and just called the casewriter town, you think he's town. is that an accurate representation of your views?
you think hope is a definite lynch today? News to me. And yea that's pretty much my thought process. it made obi scummish because he tried to act like he didn't care about the OO lynch and wanted to move on, but his d2 changed my mind when he could have just followed through and gutted me.
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BH thinks his scumread is bussing his other teammate despite trying to save his earlier teammate who did nothing.
Video gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaames.
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On October 09 2014 23:52 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2014 23:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 09 2014 23:31 StorrZerg wrote:On October 09 2014 23:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 09 2014 23:22 StorrZerg wrote:
what do you guys think of liancourt's reaction when dealing with HF, claiming vig/cop.
Unimportant. fantastic coming from the person who got bored and wanted to talk about something yesterday. If you want to change the subject thats fine [] talk about liancourt [] talk about hopeless [] other [insert topic] I'm pretty focused on this hopeless lynch. And I don't think I'm going to change my mind. then lets talk about hopeless..... i mean your around, your responding, help drive the conversation. liancourt, avoided talking about hopeless day 1. hopeless thought on Iian day 1, "Would #lynchwithfire" yet dives on Show nested quote +On October 08 2014 01:37 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 08 2014 01:35 Blazinghand wrote:
I'd like everyone to bear in mind that I've presented a reason to lynch OO that is imo valid entirely independent of the fact that I RNGed him. Yes, I did RNG him so I was going to write a case on him anyways, but bear in mind that that doesn't change the facts, and the facts are: OO isn't playing this game. yeah i'll probably end up here anyways ##Vote: ObviousOne at this point OO was an afk person that sure was "scummy" yet afk. i'd also say hopeless doesn't really add anything to the case on Iian, more so just agrees with my reasoning and "bad list post" yet has far more posts directed to Iian, questioning him, and calling him scum yet we come to this. Show nested quote +On October 09 2014 11:11 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 09 2014 11:09 Grackaroni wrote:
Hope why did you end up voting OO? You originally liked his tone and you were complaining about it being a policy lynch for a while. because RNGesus told me to. No wait that was Blazinghand. same difference. In all seriousness, it seemed inevitable and I wasnt interested in pushing damdred or lian over OO, especially since OO came in long enough to give us something and never return. I was willing to switch around up until I asked where the hell did he go? Says he "wasn't interested" I think this is a contradiction to his actions, he was very interested in pushing liam, and his reason to vote OO was just "ill end up here"
even in your case about hopeless you've mentioned me more than him. Is this really a case about hopeless or just more spotlight on to me? Seems like you actually don't give a hoot and just want to mention my name.
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On October 10 2014 09:03 liancourt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 08:54 Blazinghand wrote:On October 10 2014 08:48 liancourt wrote:On October 10 2014 08:38 Blazinghand wrote:On October 10 2014 08:32 liancourt wrote:On October 10 2014 08:25 Blazinghand wrote:On October 10 2014 08:22 StorrZerg wrote:On October 10 2014 08:21 Blazinghand wrote:On October 10 2014 08:20 liancourt wrote:
you know what I'll just vote you until you give a read on someone else, but me and actually help town instead of tunneling me.
##Vote StorrZerg oi what's wrong with voting ows cause he reading ows town now arg, but ows has done nothing even remotely useful or town-oriented! all he has done is try to save OO (laughably) and backtrack it, then follow his scumread (who he now claims is a townread) to push h1 how in the name of THE LORD do you have a tonwread on ows???? i posted it on an earlier post look through my filter having difficulty finding it. HEre you seem to be scumreading him: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/468053-fantasy-football-ffl-mini?page=66#1316 is it this? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/468053-fantasy-football-ffl-mini?page=82#1640i can't find any times you mention him after scumreading him in that post, please help me. yea the second one good job So basically you thought OWS was scum because On October 09 2014 14:20 liancourt wrote:On October 07 2014 10:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 07 2014 10:35 Damdred wrote:On October 07 2014 09:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 07 2014 09:18 Damdred wrote:
We have past games on BH stored in the database though you can go look at them. We are just telling you that THIS is not an alignment thing that BH does. Its pretty obvious that BH seems interested in D1 so far and is contributing so i'm giving him a big town slap on the back right now.
Hell even in his big RNG post he said hewas willing to go over to a better case...though BH does get kind of tunneled sometimes. But why wouldn't OO fight with everything he had not to be the lynch? He just went and voted himself instead, thats the disturbing part of it all. What conclusion are you drawing from his self vote/actions leading up to it? You say it's disturbing but you haven't followed it up with anything. Of course its disturbing in that he did not fight at all really acted excited about it. I guess a trolling town could act like that and its not alignment showing at all in that regard. But no fight whatsoever was drawn out of OO just an acceptance which is scummy. I don't really see how it matters either way when nobody is actually going to lynch him like this. You say this at the start of the day, it's like you want everyone to brush OO off as a serious lynch in a I don't really care way and then you say moments later this On October 07 2014 11:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
This is going to be a really small postcount game. Nobody else seems interested in moving the thread forward which really bothers me.
Bleed towniness. It seemed to me like you wanted to move away from the whole OO business so you wanted to start a new topic. This is all in hindsight after knowing OO's alignment and thought it odd in my eyes after rereading the early game. of the reasons here. Basically, you think OWS's relationship to the OO lynch, the flipped scum, makes him town. He was trying to brush off the lynch and move the discussion away from OO. However, simply because OWS' response to an attack on you is this: On October 10 2014 02:18 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
There's merit to it.
A good case doesn't necessarily mean that the accused is mafia. It could just mean that the guy posting it is paying attention and trying to piece things together. which although accurate, is hilariously noncommimttal, you reverse your read and now no longer want to lynch OWS. You think scum OWS would have attacked you (over h1, who is certainly getting lynched regardless), you who is loud and stubborn. Since he didn't, and just called the casewriter town, you think he's town. is that an accurate representation of your views? you think hope is a definite lynch today? News to me. And yea that's pretty much my thought process. it made obi scummish because he tried to act like he didn't care about the OO lynch and wanted to move on, but his d2 changed my mind when he could have just followed through and gutted me.
I don't buy this thought process.
I'm going to do some sitting and thinking and rerearding. still thingk OWS best lynch D2. let me know if you guys have queries
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On October 10 2014 09:14 liancourt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2014 23:52 StorrZerg wrote:On October 09 2014 23:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 09 2014 23:31 StorrZerg wrote:On October 09 2014 23:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 09 2014 23:22 StorrZerg wrote:
what do you guys think of liancourt's reaction when dealing with HF, claiming vig/cop.
Unimportant. fantastic coming from the person who got bored and wanted to talk about something yesterday. If you want to change the subject thats fine [] talk about liancourt [] talk about hopeless [] other [insert topic] I'm pretty focused on this hopeless lynch. And I don't think I'm going to change my mind. then lets talk about hopeless..... i mean your around, your responding, help drive the conversation. liancourt, avoided talking about hopeless day 1. hopeless thought on Iian day 1, "Would #lynchwithfire" yet dives on On October 08 2014 01:37 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 08 2014 01:35 Blazinghand wrote:
I'd like everyone to bear in mind that I've presented a reason to lynch OO that is imo valid entirely independent of the fact that I RNGed him. Yes, I did RNG him so I was going to write a case on him anyways, but bear in mind that that doesn't change the facts, and the facts are: OO isn't playing this game. yeah i'll probably end up here anyways ##Vote: ObviousOne at this point OO was an afk person that sure was "scummy" yet afk. i'd also say hopeless doesn't really add anything to the case on Iian, more so just agrees with my reasoning and "bad list post" yet has far more posts directed to Iian, questioning him, and calling him scum yet we come to this. On October 09 2014 11:11 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 09 2014 11:09 Grackaroni wrote:
Hope why did you end up voting OO? You originally liked his tone and you were complaining about it being a policy lynch for a while. because RNGesus told me to. No wait that was Blazinghand. same difference. In all seriousness, it seemed inevitable and I wasnt interested in pushing damdred or lian over OO, especially since OO came in long enough to give us something and never return. I was willing to switch around up until I asked where the hell did he go? Says he "wasn't interested" I think this is a contradiction to his actions, he was very interested in pushing liam, and his reason to vote OO was just "ill end up here" even in your case about hopeless you've mentioned me more than him. Is this really a case about hopeless or just more spotlight on to me? Seems like you actually don't give a hoot and just want to mention my name.
It's possible he just thinks you're scum and wants to lynch you, regardless of his other reads. A whole lot of people were leaning that way during day 1 so I wouldn't think it's the most surprising thought in the world.
Either way, we're not lynching him today, and I really don't want to lynch you either. Ask yourself if omgus is the primary factor in your scumread and consider voting Hopeless instead.
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lmao I remember opting out of the discourse when I pretended to be BH that one time.
Omg that case on HF was so bad.
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man i wish i could just sheep BH all day long. reading now.
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yeah obiwan's town..i think i want to lynch damdred over lian. going through lian's filter now.
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Cool, can't wait to see this mystery case on me.
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On October 10 2014 08:31 StorrZerg wrote:
slam why does liam have a town read on you? do you know why
Because I am so good at self-defense through reverse psychology
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What's up people
I have done less than anyone here, yet I see a whole bunch of cases on other people based on what they "haven't" done.
This is a bunch of people busy trying to make "cases" for lack of knowledge about how to actually scum hunt.
Not that I know how to do this myself, but I do know that accusing people that don't immediately form reads while throwing out random reads yourself is smash board style mafia play. (No offense to HBC frog, and by the way I'm using talk text, but then again frog you know what I'm talking about)
What makes a person scum changes every game. Everybody realizes when they roll scum that there are certain traits that they find scummy. Often times, other people also find those things scummy. Most of the time lurking is considered scummy universally however.
So generally, lurker scum are people that actually don't know how to play as scum gambling on Wifom.
However, I don't think anyone is truly lurking this game that hasn't already been lynched. Hence, need to use tactics to find active scum!
Hapahauli One said something about uncommon knowledge. That was one of the best things I've ever read but I can't remember what it all was, so too bad for you. However,everyone here seems to be talking about very common knowledge type things.
However, The reason for this is often that there is no uncommon knowledge to draw from in existence!
Still, there are tools available to a town that we are not using. One of these is genuine human error mistakes; not "scum slips" mind you, but mistakes. Things that a person does different from what they would normally do as a town player without realizing that it would actually be different. One of the major and defining traits in that sense is lying; HolyFlare just gave us a beautiful example of town lying (there's my read on holyflare) but that's the type of thing that we call "bBig plays". I mean things where somebody seems convincing, but when you really examine what they're saying, you find that they have not kept their story straight while they have not really been explaining a change in their mind.
I saw this once this game as pointed out by someone else; Grackaroni.
This informs my voting with blazing hand.
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HOLY SHIT AN ACTUAL POST FROM SLAM
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while that post was lovely and all it really didn't do anything. just a bunch of general information on how to play.
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i am entirely too drunk/tired to finish this right now. I stand by damdred>lian. will read kelsier storr and slam (I probably wont read slam, lets be honest here) in the morning and then try to get someone who's not me lynched. Probably damdred.
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This is the lamest scum team I've ever seen.
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Well I will meet you in glorious battle hopeless but you are wrong or scum...
Slam who else besides obi is scum?
Stor, imagine a world where Lia flips town. Where do you go from their
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You can join in the party also obi tell me about the lame scum team who is it besides hopeless for you
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