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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
October 07 2014 23:23 GMT
#828
On October 08 2014 08:20 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2014 08:07 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 08 2014 07:56 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 08 2014 07:53 Blazinghand wrote:
I gotta say, I don't view the lack of pushback on the OO lynch as a serious problem. If he's playing like this as scum, why would his scumteam do anything to save him? They'd obviously bus him.

I disagree. It's one thing to be open to lynching him and its another thing to just completely ignore the obi suspicion when HF/I were pushing hard on obi. I feel pretty strongly that if OO is scum and Obi is town then there would be some people agreeing with Obi being scum so they have another option to switch to if OO ends up not being the lynch.

OK, let's say I grant you that scum would consider other lynches if OO was scum. Let's say that's true, for the sake of this argument.

Consider the alternative situation. Let's say OO is town, right? You're scum and you see this apathetic, useless townie going up for the lynch. Do you just hop on the wagon mindlessly (remember, this is a somewhat contested wagon, people are saying things like "people are voting this wagon so they don't have to discuss") or do you try to bring up an alternative lynch candidate? As scum, you want to appear to be that paranoid townie who didn't trust the D1 wagon, if OO was town. It would be like "OO the townie has been lynched!" and then the scum player would be like "ugh, come on guys, look at this long post I wrote (on another townie), that despite my pushing was ignored! Come on, guys! get with the program!" and he'd collect town cred.

So, I think we can agree scum would consider other lynches if OO was town, too, right? In fact, I think no matter what OO's alignment is, it makes sense for scum to push other lynches because his lynch, though contested, is inevitable and there's little to be gained by pushing it. Now, does it make sense to raise a huge rabble and draw a ton of attention to yourself as scum in this situation? I think regardless of OO's alignment, the answer is "no". Whatever OO will flip, you want to do a decent effort on pushing another wagon (or at least one person on the team should), but in a quiet D1 like this rocking the boat will only draw attention.

In any case, I guess the point I'm getting at here is it's reasonable to say that scum will push OR not push another wagon, either way, at some moderate amount, regardless of OO's alignment. Your statement, which is that scum would push another wagon if OO was scum, is also true for if OO is town, and so isn't useful in determining OO's alignment.


God, I hate associative tells between unflipped people


I can relate to where he's coming from. I can imagine a scenario for this to happen whichever alignment OO is.

So would that mean people pushing for obi lynch is scummy? I'll reread that obi/hf/grack interaction.


oh no not at all, no associative tells between unflipped players. if you want to do something like this, wait for an OO or Obi (if the wagon gets enough steam) flip first, then we'll have more info. Don't forget there are perfectly legitimate reasons for townies to be blind to the glory of RNG and turn their backs on its salvation
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
October 07 2014 23:51 GMT
#844
Hey, just as I predicted, here's OO back closer to day end!
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
October 07 2014 23:51 GMT
#846
yeah not enough respect for the rng. the R in rng is for respect.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
October 08 2014 00:06 GMT
#849
long live rng vote!
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
October 08 2014 01:16 GMT
#868
Man you have no idea how happy I'm going to be when OO flips scum
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
October 08 2014 01:21 GMT
#870
Of course it's a plynch! It's RNG! That's what's so glorious about it. Even better, it's ALSO a lurker plynch! Man, this is so awesome I can barely contain myself.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
October 08 2014 01:26 GMT
#872
Right now there's basically nothing that could cause me to unvote him
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
October 08 2014 01:27 GMT
#874
On October 08 2014 10:27 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Who's down for a second CFD onto Palmar?

The first one was hilarious. The second will be doubly so.


So I guess you're scum with OO then
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
October 08 2014 01:31 GMT
#876
On October 08 2014 10:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2014 10:27 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 08 2014 10:27 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Who's down for a second CFD onto Palmar?

The first one was hilarious. The second will be doubly so.


So I guess you're scum with OO then


Yep.

ggnore


Seriously though you've said nothing about Palmar all game. I'll wait until after the OO flip of course but come on buddy
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
October 08 2014 01:35 GMT
#880
normally here's where I say we lynch OWS, but two things

1. it's an associative tell between unflipped players
2. I just really want OO dead
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
October 08 2014 01:35 GMT
#882
On October 08 2014 10:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Nha. Palmar looks okay atm and I think he's kinda town. I just think it'd be funny if he woke up lynched again.

In all seriousness, I don't particularly care for this OO lynch but I doubt I have any say in the matter. I don't really see any targets of mine that people will lynch any time soon.

I just really don't like plynches for this reason. Even if they somehow hit scum (they never do) I always get a little frustrated because I feel like nothing gets accomplished by doing so.


DAT BACKPEDAL
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
October 08 2014 03:47 GMT
#903
Obi tomorrow, if things work how I think they will. OO today.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
October 08 2014 03:53 GMT
#907
On October 08 2014 12:50 Holyflare wrote:
but if things work out the way you think they will then you'll want to lynch lian tomorrow didn't you say...?


not after ows' attempted shennannies onto Palmar that made no sense unless he was saving a scum OO...

but i'll get more into that after the OO flip.

in any case, right now: eyes on the prize. stay on OO
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
October 08 2014 03:54 GMT
#910
On October 08 2014 12:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2014 12:45 Holyflare wrote:
I actually want to cutabitch obi purely because his vote is in not only a useless spot lynching a towny but because he has no relevant information towards this OO wagon whatsoever and even now his target is not getting lynched he has said absolutely nothing towards pushing me whatsoever, he has returned at deadline to further say nothing despite a lot of pages happening since his last post, obi is most likely mafia.


The bottom line is that OO is a policy lynch, plain and simple. Me not contributing towards a policy lynch doesn't make me mafia.

Literally the dumbest.


not even remotely related to why you're scum
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
October 08 2014 03:58 GMT
#913
On October 08 2014 12:56 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2014 12:54 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 08 2014 12:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 08 2014 12:45 Holyflare wrote:
I actually want to cutabitch obi purely because his vote is in not only a useless spot lynching a towny but because he has no relevant information towards this OO wagon whatsoever and even now his target is not getting lynched he has said absolutely nothing towards pushing me whatsoever, he has returned at deadline to further say nothing despite a lot of pages happening since his last post, obi is most likely mafia.


The bottom line is that OO is a policy lynch, plain and simple. Me not contributing towards a policy lynch doesn't make me mafia.

Literally the dumbest.


not even remotely related to why you're scum


Why are you being such an idiot rn?


Don'te tempt me!
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
October 08 2014 04:03 GMT
#921
HAH RNG FOR EVER RNG FOR EVER

I SEE NO REASON TO NOT ALWAYS RNG D1

YOU CAN ALL THANK ME NOW FOR THE WONDER OF RNG
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
October 08 2014 04:07 GMT
#930
On October 08 2014 13:06 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2014 13:05 Grackaroni wrote:
lol is that a concession?


...No?

I'm just annoyed that someone rolls scum and basically just stops playing. It makes me feel dumb.


yeah it must be tough when your teammate bails like that right ows
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
October 08 2014 04:13 GMT
#940
OWS' last minute attempt to save OO was hilarious. Almost as hilarious as the ease with which we will lynch OWS tomorrow
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
October 08 2014 04:17 GMT
#945
I do rng on d1 but after that it's more beneficial to pay normally. Especially with this ows development
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
October 08 2014 08:36 GMT
#957
On October 08 2014 17:13 KelsierSC wrote:
BH what happens if RNG lands on you?


It never does. It came close, this time, but as long as my faith in RNGesus is strong he will never betray me.
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