EPTyou said my town reads.irk you
you said i push on obi
i scum read obi, i have valid reasons
obi pushes on hope. So i read hope as town possibility of a framer in the game.
i read you as town so your cop claim seems reasonable to me.
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KelsierSC
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you said my town reads.irk you you said i push on obi i scum read obi, i have valid reasons obi pushes on hope. So i read hope as town possibility of a framer in the game. i read you as town so your cop claim seems reasonable to me. | ||
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KelsierSC
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i don't see any town motivation at all. im mafia then? | ||
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feels like that just happened. | ||
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KelsierSC
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lynch obi, he is scum. See my filter for the damming case that he dodges repeatedly i cant decide between lian and dama..im not sure. I don't know if dam defended himself as perfectly as hf thought he did. Lians case on him is ok but again lian could be mafia. Store thinks lian is mafia.. Decide on that next day. hf , was fun, sorry i was so pathetic and petty. Next time i will just si quietly and let you call me mafia. p.s it is gnat as opposed to nat. The g is silent | ||
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i guess it looks bad on me that hope flipped scum. But i was positive obi was scummy and i had excellent reasons to believe that. Maybe he is 3rd party or maybe he was just having a bad game and not really thinking things through. anyway you can cop check me or whatever and realise I'm town which will put a stop to all the scum on me. Interestingly i notice dam and lian are pretty happy to call me scum despite having town reads on me before. I have played a strong town game, gave good reasons for my town reads , looked at different angles, asked intelligent cases and presented strong cases on people who are scum. as for the final mafia. Someone who didn't vote on hope would be a safe place to lynch. Yeh that includes me but again i pushed really hard on obi and all my reasons were valid. | ||
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On October 12 2014 03:54 Grackaroni wrote: Ok thoughts on KSC Day1 you seemed to feel Hopeless was pretty scummy and you gave a town read to obi because he questioned dam/lian Your reasoning here doesn't make much sense to me and doesn't really seem good enough to warrant a full flip-flop on your reads. You argue mafia didn't have much of a chance to start a counter wagon so they would probably vote Obi for towncred, thus you town read me/Palmar/Batsnacks for being on a counter wagon. However, in your mind Obi also tried to start a counter wagon on Palmar rather than just sit back and say nothing but that makes him scummy? Leaving a vote on HF was understandable in your earlier read of Obi because he was annoyed at HF but now you think that Obi leaving his vote on HF is scummy. It really feels like you were just taking advantage of the thread sentiment against obi started by Blazinghand rather than making your own read. Throughout all of day 2 even though Hopeless was the main wagon for the day you didn't give an opinion on anything in his filter and just said that he's town because obi is pushing him, which I think was an incredibly scummy way to avoid addressing Hopeless. You even said you would be scum reading Hopeless if it wasn't for Obi pushing him. I would have expected some sort of attempt to interact with Hopeless. Yep initially I had a town read of obi early d1. But if you look at why I read him as scum it is for reasons around the votes on d1 and his actions d2. So that isn't a contradiction. I gave good reasons why I thought obi was scum. My point is that everyone who voted on obi d1 was probably town or not mafia because there was never going to be a counter wagon. So people who voted obi did it because they are town and because they legitimately found him scummy. I thought mafia just voted OO to gain cred. They knew he would flip scum. If you ask why do I want to lynch obi as he didn't vote on OO, I explained this before. The situation didn't apply to him because there was a lot of pressure on him. It looks really fucking scummy to just vote OO and switch off hf as soon as people start pressuring him. In that case not voting OO didn't clear him, he could either vote OO and look scummy for the late switch or just keep his vote on hf. I don't think at any stage I just agreed with someone's read on obi. I was leading the lynch on obi d2 , I examined him carefully and provided an excellent case against him Like I said the only reason I didn't vote hope is because I was convinced obi was scum and he did nothing to convince me otherwise. | ||
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Obi wanted to get a counter wagon going and it failed miserably hence it proved that no counter wagon was ever going to work. | ||
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He also left his vote on hf which was silly to me. He also seemed very depressed after the lynch. | ||
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obi couldn't vote on oo because it would have looked really scummy st that point when there was a lot of pressure on him. | ||
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obi attempted to get a counter wagon beforehand but it totally failed .. | ||
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He could be third party but no way he is mafia. | ||
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On October 12 2014 17:51 Palmar wrote: As for the players who are left. This is how the game looks right now. Not mafia: KelsierSC - This is based on his repeated insistence on being an asshole. If he's faking it, he's pretty good. The one thing that really sticks out is that he wanted to completely bury me on day 1, but then basically was okay with stepping back and changing his mind during night one. Holyflare - basically for lynching mafia. Grackaroni - not cc'd, shots going through, we definitely have a vigi with the 3 kills tonight. Confirmed. Never lynch. StorrZerg Possible mafia Damdred - My best bet for mafia. Obi seems more invested atm and I still can't remember anything Damdred is posting. To be perfectly honest I'm being super lazy this game, but still, I should've noticed at least something. This probably means I'm mafia, it's always the guys I don't notice because their posting is so boring and bland that are mafia. Alakaslam - I sincerely hope he was cop checked. I never try to read slam and this game is not an exception ObiWanShinobi - Has tried harder later in the game. Wanted to lynch me on day 1 and wants to lynch me now, which basically means he's super interested in lynching townies. Could be mafia. As for third parties, just lynch Holyflare. I hadn't even noticed that hopeless outed him. I've had this happen like twice to me as third party where I'm wrecking scum, they try to shoot me night 1, then when I lynch them day 2 they claim. Go read arkham asylum for context. There's no point in lying for Hopeless, all he's doing is giving his team a free "mislynch". This is one of the reasons I hate having SKs in games. It's just so shit to be an SK when mafia decides they're mad at you and want to ruin your game. HF has otherwise played super well as 3p. So yeah, I honestly think we should not be assholes and basically hunt the mafia, and then lynch HF. HF you should totally work with us and not send in a kill next night, or kill the mafia. If we fuck up and don't find the last mafia, the game is yours. Deal? Also just because people are playing the game doesn't make them an asshole. | ||
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On October 12 2014 06:49 Damdred wrote: I have to go back and read I think but didn't a lot of those votes get on obi before the failed shenanigans? I was asleep around votes so I don't recall it that way. On October 12 2014 06:50 Damdred wrote: and wouldn't the obi wagon BE the counterwagon in that case since he gained hte most traction This question has already been asked and answered The people who voted on Obi I read as town, It wasn't a mafia counter wagon, it was town voting someone scummy. | ||
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KelsierSC
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if he is null to a lot of people and you said that you weren't sure he would have made sense as a cop check and hence frame target. I'm pretty sure i explained that to you before , taking my quotes out of context is really clever of you | ||
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you ended up backtracking so hard that you resorted to calling me petty and pathetic. | ||
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On October 12 2014 23:58 Holyflare wrote: i didn't push anything and you keep saying it and have no actual proper reads other than obi which you fucked up like i said you just pretend you didn't call me.mafia or write an accusation. if obi plays scummy and doesn't defend himself i cant be blamed for reading him as scum. i have given all my reads throughout the game so saying i don't have proper reads is just not true. Continuously lying to make a case on me is really dumb. I imagine it is just your wounded pride rather than scum though. | ||
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On October 13 2014 00:07 Holyflare wrote: hur hur qq more because you know i'm town yeh you are town, so why are you making up points or taking quotes out of context to push on me. read my play ive played a strong town game, I'm not the lynch | ||
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KelsierSC
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you dodged my questions repeatedly and when you did answer you said you town read hf because his n1 play totally trirned him fr.your top scum to town but didn't give any evidence to support this. the rest of my points you didn't answer | ||
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