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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
September 30 2014 08:58 GMT
#27
/in

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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 04 2014 13:02 GMT
#63
guna be hard for me to be around for votes but I think I will just try and get up early for it
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 06 2014 06:50 GMT
#86
Lord Tolkien the Waiver Wire Scrub the vanilla town didn't realize that Ladainian Tomlinson wasn't in the league let alone a fantasy star and got eliminated with a loss early on.


Actually made me laugh out loud, I love this theme.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 06 2014 15:36 GMT
#165
Bats and Oats are both town to me, "Bats trap" seems like a good town angle to me, I don't think Oats is faking frustration and it feels town to me.
Ala is town, I like how he pointed out how HF just stepped in and started flinging shit.
Grack seems really jokey and happy and posting a lot so probably town.

I don't like HF because of the aforementioned reason and the early vote just felt like he was totally misreading the thread.

On October 06 2014 22:03 Hopeless1der wrote:
Morning guys. We need to liven this place up a bit. Who's ready for some FOOTBALL?

@batsnacks how sure are you that you've caught mafia there...?


I also really didn't like this at all. I think it was such a meaningless and stupid question that no one bothered to respond to it. it just felt like a question to ask to appear active and buddy someone.

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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 06 2014 16:39 GMT
#195
On October 07 2014 01:17 Holyflare wrote:
lol storr reads me as weird but then says exactly the same thing that I have already said about oats' reaction ~_~

kelsier reads me as scummy for "flinging shit like slam said" but doesn't really explain how exactly I have been flinging shit and neither does he explain anything to do with oats such as why he'd be frustrated in the first place and then then further brings up the EXACT point I had already raised on hopeless.

In essence kelsier's post is a list post with the added scummy bonus of giving out free and easy town reads based on things that shouldn't be free and easy town reads


i didn't really go into it because ala gave the reasons and i was more explaing ala as town.

i didn't see you bring up the point about hopeless to be honest but if you did raise that before me then i agree with the read, maybe your town
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 06 2014 17:26 GMT
#225
So I have never played with bh but i really don't like what he just did.

firstly i thought we were looking along some interesting lines with hf and hell, then bh did this huge RNG nothingness that served nothing except to disrupt town.

he then tries to justify his rng like hey this is actually a good idea because he is inactive?

it introduces him to the thread in a splashy way but all it does.is disrupt town.

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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 06 2014 17:50 GMT
#238
If that is how he always enters i am.not scum reading him, i just think it is a stupid thing to do.

like i think we were being productive and pushing certain people and he pops up saying there is x% this person is mafia. Ok but why not let people figure out the game and pressure people.

plus i dont like how he does an rng and then goes looking for a reason to call that person scum on page 12 of the thread
call it rng and don't make it anything more
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 06 2014 18:21 GMT
#251
On October 07 2014 03:20 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 02:55 liancourt wrote:
Also there is a possibility that people will keep posting until they get the number they want. So there is a wayto abuse it


You're so incredibly uninformed, it hurts. I made one post, and that post provided the RNG #. How do you think it would look if I said "actually, ignore that post, we're going to use this one instead?" It would look awful, and I have obviously never done that and did not do that this game.

If you really think that my RNG system is gameable, you simply don't understand it. Due to your lack of comprehension, you are hereby disqualified from any future discussion of RNG until you apologise for your ignorance.



I think if you said to ignore your RNG post that would be a really town move.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 06 2014 18:30 GMT
#253
On October 07 2014 03:26 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 03:21 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 07 2014 03:20 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 07 2014 02:55 liancourt wrote:
Also there is a possibility that people will keep posting until they get the number they want. So there is a wayto abuse it


You're so incredibly uninformed, it hurts. I made one post, and that post provided the RNG #. How do you think it would look if I said "actually, ignore that post, we're going to use this one instead?" It would look awful, and I have obviously never done that and did not do that this game.

If you really think that my RNG system is gameable, you simply don't understand it. Due to your lack of comprehension, you are hereby disqualified from any future discussion of RNG until you apologise for your ignorance.



I think if you said to ignore your RNG post that would be a really town move.


Then you think wrongly. You're a smart guy, you just haven't had the education necessary to understand this. Look at things this way. OO delurked as soon as he got voted, right? And then he self-votes and posts some trolling image thing. Stop thinking about my RNG vote and look at OO's response. OO *knows* I'm 100% serious about RNG and don't back down from it, and I lynch people this way from time to time (people like to resist RNG but it still goes through occasionally). So Basically, OO is facing a couple serious votes on him.

If you stop thinking about my RNG vote and look at OO's insta-delurk and weird response, suddenly you start to learn a lot more about OO, don't you. Dang! That sure was useful! It also turns out the thing you learned about OO is that he's pretty obviously scum. So vote him.


Didn't he say something like "now that is out the way"

I think he just ignored / joked about it. I think it is good to put pressure on people but after your RNG post you haven't actually put any pressure on him . you just defended some random selection method.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 06 2014 20:04 GMT
#279
HF what do you make of this RNG play from BH?

Do you think OO is a good lynch?
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 06 2014 21:46 GMT
#291
So I'm about to go to bed and want to give my thoughts on the day so far.

my initial reads are in my filer and have stayed pretty much the same although I'm more inclined to read hf as town considering he did point out the weird question by hela before i did and he read bh as null which i like rather than giving him a weird town pass.

two of my town have given bh a town pass and i cant understand the reason.

so to update on other people reading the storrzerg and lian interaction. Storrzerg reads like a town who wants to pressure someone who he hasn't played with and try and get a read on them, seems very towny to me
i dont know if lian is nervous or scummy but i haven't really liked him so far.

as for bh, his rng is not alignment indicative, but the fact is he dropped it in at a time when town was already discussing and pushing on people, who in thought could be scummy. And his counter offer to a productive discussion was a random person. Disrupting town and then trying to act superior just feels really scummy to me..

also I'm confused why he thinks oats is a good lunch, because it favours rng and he is inactive. So a bad reason and a dactually incorrect reason. I cant quote st the moment on my phone but it is in there.

i still dont like hela i didn't like his weird question and when people started discussing him was around the time bh decided to reveal his flawless methodology and deflect town.

summary.
town - bats,grack,store,ala,oats,

scum -bh,hela,

null - hf,dama, lian, oo,
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 06 2014 21:48 GMT
#293
On October 07 2014 01:45 Blazinghand wrote:
Interestingly, it looks like in addition to being objectively correct due to RNG, it is ALSO objectively correct to lynch Oats because he has so little content. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/468053-fantasy-football-ffl-mini?user=ObviousOne

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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 06 2014 21:57 GMT
#297
Oh is that what the s/oats thing means, that was rather unclear.
ok that part can be ignored but the rest of my case against bh still stands.

my phone corrected hopel to hela for some reason
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 06 2014 21:59 GMT
#300
You haven't responds to my main reasons why you ate scun.

you can town read me if you want I don't really read into it as you probably just flipped a coin
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 06 2014 22:02 GMT
#302
I'm not trying to mid interpret what you said but you just seem to be confused with what you say sometimes
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 06 2014 22:05 GMT
#306
On October 07 2014 06:59 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 06:57 KelsierSC wrote:
Oh is that what the s/oats thing means, that was rather unclear.
ok that part can be ignored but the rest of my case against bh still stands.

my phone corrected hopel to hela for some reason


>"rest of my case"
>implying there is a case
>implying there was ever a case
>doesn't understand sed

mfw

of course there is a case.

you deliberately disrupted town when it was being productive to give us a random name. Since then you haven't actually bothered to push on the name and seen quite content now that town is in a different Random path
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 06 2014 22:09 GMT
#309
On October 07 2014 07:05 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 07:02 KelsierSC wrote:
I'm not trying to mid interpret what you said but you just seem to be confused with what you say sometimes


OK, let me be one hundo percent clear:

You should vote OO. OO is scum, and RNG demands it. This is what I am saying. OO is ObviousOne. This is not a place of honor. OO is scum. This is a message, part of a system of messages. The message is that OO is scum, and you should vote him. This message is a warning about OO. We must vote OO. I consider myself to be a powerful player. OO must be lynched.

again you haven't given a reason apart.from random number said so

before this we actually had discussion

going to sleep now pick this up tomorrow
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 07 2014 06:53 GMT
#510
Hey guys, woke up and read through the responses.

@Dam what he disturbed was pressure on Oats,Hope and HF , plus there was a discussion between Storrzerg and liancourt. Obviously I don't think all of them are mafia but I was actually enjoying the discussion of it so far.
@BH the OO discussion is interesting, I would find it interesting if you actually pressured OO rather than talk about percentages.
After reading I don't like how OO self voted and disappeared. I think once he realized people were taking BH seriously, he would have been more emotional and pissed off about it ( as I would have been) and now pressuring him would be a good direction

@HF you quoted Dam and said all his points were just surface stuff. This is how Dam approached D1 last game I played with him, he didn't spam the thread just kind of sat back a bit and made a few points here and there. It feels like town Dam to me.

I think Obi is quite clearly town, Since he got in the game he has been active and questioning Dama and Lian seems like the correct angle as both appear a bit scummy ( I read Dam as town but that is because I played with him before)
he seems to be reading the game the same way as me. Doesn't like the RNG nonsense and wants town to discuss something else. He seems genuinely pissed off with HF voting him out the blue.

@Obi Just FYI I don't think the RNG is indicative of scum, but the timing of it felt anti-town to me.

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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 07 2014 06:59 GMT
#513
On October 07 2014 15:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yeah that town read on obi completely doesn't make sense. Tmi?
Why doesn't Kelseir give a read on hf? Who knows.
Why didn't you Kelseir?


Care to explain how it doesn't make sense

As for HF, I gave a read on him pretty early saying he was scummy but I'm still working it out

I didn't like his interaction with you at the beginning. But he did make a good point on hope asking rando/odd questions which felt town. I obviously don't like his scum read on obi but it could just be his way of getting information. I haven't decided one way or the other yet.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 07 2014 07:17 GMT
#515
Just to update on HF.

I think his interaction with obi makes him scummy.

Firstly he asked "when are you going to do something" when it seems to me that obi was asking questions and trying to get things done. Then he just votes him out of the blue for the reason of "filter"...ok that is just a terrible explanation. if you are going to vote on someone at least accuse them of something scummy.
Then it turns out his huge reason is because obi hasn't called anyone town or scum instantly . It is reasonable that obi has reads but didn't want to give them yet or he was getting his reads based on questioning dam/lia.
Just felt like HF called him scum and then had to find a reason for it.
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