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I think I'd actually like to get a game in with DP. Sounds odd. Maybe I'm just ready to let old shit be. | ||
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On September 22 2014 05:08 Promethelax wrote: Hmmm... Yamato's game isn't filling fast. If this game starts first I'm /in and ill /out his until completion. I sure hope this counts as a /in | ||
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On September 22 2014 16:28 DarthPunk wrote: They are not always about school kids. And I like anime and I am not dumb nor am I a kid. That is a total lie. + Show Spoiler [You Know What I'm Going To Say] + We all know you're secretly a 14 year old girl with a crush on Justin Bieber. | ||
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On September 23 2014 03:08 Hapahauli wrote: I could play, but I would be massively less active than I would normally be. I'll be travelling a lot this week. That's okay. We'll need someone to lynch for not fitting to their town meta. | ||
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On September 23 2014 06:55 Promethelax wrote: I haven't played in ~9 months. I'll do my best to not fit my town meta to make you happy. Well your town meta is that you're awful and can never read me right. So long as you don't fit that I'm happy. | ||
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Arguing with me is in your scum meta. I like you Prome but if you keep up on this track I will fuck the lynch out of you. | ||
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On September 23 2014 07:24 Promethelax wrote: Have you ever played with me as scum? If you'll remember, I ran for Mayor and said I'd lynch the popular choice (you) only to I think read you as town. Then on N1 I hard read VE and Dr.H as mafia and defended Chezinu (mafia). I think I got lynched D3 after BH as paranoid cop checked me (I got framed) but he was told red; only like 24+ hours into the day did he get told it was green. BH tells that story better though. | ||
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On September 23 2014 07:54 Hapahauli wrote: /in Yessssssssss!!!!!!!! | ||
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But Hapa, I thought I had bribed you to vote for me for best cohost 2014. Did those pictures of me in a bra do nothing for you? | ||
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On September 24 2014 00:39 yamato77 wrote: I thought Hapa was in? He should be. | ||
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^ I don't think BH should be allowed to /out. It goes against the goodnessnousity purpose in the strive for TL hamburglarity. | ||
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On September 24 2014 09:17 Damdred wrote: What third party geript It's a joke. I assumed anyone who played BH's game would get it. Apparently not. | ||
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Hapa-Abuse Vayne--DP Grack--Kush but Kush isn't on the sign up Geript--MysteryMeat Oats--Damdred So here's where we're at. | ||
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On September 24 2014 11:37 Hapahauli wrote: I really don't like geript. Town points for the person who tells everyone why. ##Vote Geript Because I'm awesome? Also, why did VE get a QT? | ||
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On September 24 2014 11:42 VisceraEyes wrote: Is it because he wants to call me "confirmed town" based on CR's flip in spite of no such certainty coming with such a flip? Meh so I read OP wrong sue me. | ||
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On September 24 2014 11:44 Hapahauli wrote: I'll tell you the answer after Yamato and/or MM decide to post. Although you are more than welcome to keep trying on geript or another potential scummer. No sir. You are not going to call me scum Hapa. If you even think it one more time I will lynch the fuck out of you. | ||
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Hapa-Abuse Vayne--DP Grack--Kush/rightinthefeels Geript--MysteryMeat Oats--Damdred Prome--yam So that's the teams. Because Prome is going to be MIA-ish, I think the most important person to get a read on is Yam. Next up is Vayn/DP. After that is Hapa-Abuse. One confirmed Mafia/Mafia pair makes the game a bit interesting. Abuse is currently no help on Hapa. Yam feels a bit more comfortable and less idk detached than I've seen him lately. Vayne I have no clue how to read. DP's read on Hapa based on his response to Yam is meh. I'm kinda surprised to see DP semi-defending me vs Hapa. On September 24 2014 12:45 DarthPunk wrote: I don't think being "disjointed with the thread flow" and talking about other shit is scummy. In fact I think it is townie to ignore stuff and talk about what you want. I think that is a really weird reason to be super confident in a scum!geript read. I agree that geripts posturing was kinda weird but once again not even close to enough to express the kind of confidence that hapa expressed about geript being scum. This however is a pretty good point. Hapa's seen me at my best and worst in a few games. Considering how random my town games can be, Hapa being so confident in his read on drives me in two different directions. First, that I think Hapa tends to think of me more as my play in Nukem Hydra (hyper, erratic, emotional, etc.). Second, I don't think I've seen town Hapa be this sure in himself and be so drastically wrong for lots of reasons. So on to blow Hapa's bullshit out of the water: On September 24 2014 11:55 Hapahauli wrote: @ MM What do you make of CR's claim? RE: Geript Geript is mafia because his play is completely disjointed with the thread flow. I was happy because I have another player that I can actually gather part of a read on Vayne from. Being paired with him would be exceptionally hard for me. On September 24 2014 08:19 geript wrote: I'm half tempted to flip CR to see if VE is confirmed town or not. I didn't realize that 3P/mafia pair was a possibility at the time. But I feel confident in reading VE and he's semi-townyish. I want to see more but I'm pretty sure I'll be able to read him by the end of the day. On September 24 2014 08:20 geript wrote: Vayne seems like he cares about this game. That kinda makes me want to lynch him too. My experience and anecdotal explanations of how to read vayne are based on whether or not he cares if he's on the chopping block. I've still never gotten his alignment right. But the fact that his posts are reasonably sensible and I don't instantly want to lynch him for doing nothing ironically makes me think he's more likely to be mafia. On September 24 2014 09:13 geript wrote: I'll claim 3P. That should give me a day to reach a 7 page filter :-P Clear joke. On September 24 2014 09:24 geript wrote: It's a joke. I assumed anyone who played BH's game would get it. Apparently not. Clear explanation because I didn't want to get mislynched again by a bunch of players who choose to be mentally deficient. [quote=Hapa]Geript makes his entrance with these posts, and they completely ignore the current line of discussion. Literally everyone is talking about CR's claim, but geript chooses to ignore this. It would be OK if these posts were useful or provided something informative, but they are largely 1-lined throwaway comments ( and 1 terrible joke) that "act confident" but don't say anything of value.[/quote] You're right. I said nothing of huge value. I was also heading to the game store to play modern so being heavily invested for the first 2-5 hours of a day isn't something that's required. I'm perfectly fine just coming in and reading whenever the fuck I want because when I choose to be an instant townread I will be an instant townread. That and I'm going to find the mafia/mafia pair on day 1 so fuck off. [quote=Hapa]Then the next time he returns: On September 24 2014 10:33 geript wrote: CR-VE Hapa-Abuse Vayne--DP Grack--Kush but Kush isn't on the sign up Geript--MysteryMeat Oats--Damdred So here's where we're at. He posts this, which is so typical of someone trying to appear useful without actually being so. In his filter he still has yet to even touch the CR stuff, which is an event that everyone else so far immediately locked onto and provided input. So basically, geript's play so far has been making throw-away "confident" posts that add nothing to discussion while ignoring the current flow of discussion - a mentality I associate with an early-game mafia trying too hard to fit in.[/quote] No I'm not trying to be useful at all. I just want to be able to fucking read my filter without having to scroll back through the first 4-6 pages to figure out what the pairs are. Yes, you guys get to see it to. I don't care. [quote=Hapa]Lastly, as a result of my provocations: On September 24 2014 11:45 geript wrote: No sir. You are not going to call me scum Hapa. If you even think it one more time I will lynch the fuck out of you. This "come at me bro" post is just the worst. And this is not a bullshit Day 1 read - I'm actually pretty confident about this one. [/QUOTE] And yes Hapa, you're up on the chopping block. This is a really fucking weird read coming from you. My question to you, what do you expect to gain from the town points for finding your chain of thought? | ||
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On September 24 2014 14:35 geript wrote: CR-VE Hapa-Abuse Vayne--DP Grack--Kush/rightinthefeels Geript--MysteryMeat Oats--Damdred Prome--yam So that's the teams. Because Prome is going to be MIA-ish, I think the most important person to get a read on is Yam. Next up is Vayn/DP. After that is Hapa-Abuse. One confirmed Mafia/Mafia pair makes the game a bit interesting. Abuse is currently no help on Hapa. Yam feels a bit more comfortable and less idk detached than I've seen him lately. Vayne I have no clue how to read. DP's read on Hapa based on his response to Yam is meh. I'm kinda surprised to see DP semi-defending me vs Hapa. This however is a pretty good point. Hapa's seen me at my best and worst in a few games. Considering how random my town games can be, Hapa being so confident in his read on drives me in two different directions. First, that I think Hapa tends to think of me more as my play in Nukem Hydra (hyper, erratic, emotional, etc.). Second, I don't think I've seen town Hapa be this sure in himself and be so drastically wrong for lots of reasons. So on to blow Hapa's bullshit out of the water: I was happy because I have another player that I can actually gather part of a read on Vayne from. Being paired with him would be exceptionally hard for me. I didn't realize that 3P/mafia pair was a possibility at the time. But I feel confident in reading VE and he's semi-townyish. I want to see more but I'm pretty sure I'll be able to read him by the end of the day. My experience and anecdotal explanations of how to read vayne are based on whether or not he cares if he's on the chopping block. I've still never gotten his alignment right. But the fact that his posts are reasonably sensible and I don't instantly want to lynch him for doing nothing ironically makes me think he's more likely to be mafia. Clear joke. Clear explanation because I didn't want to get mislynched again by a bunch of players who choose to be mentally deficient. You're right. I said nothing of huge value. I was also heading to the game store to play modern so being heavily invested for the first 2-5 hours of a day isn't something that's required. I'm perfectly fine just coming in and reading whenever the fuck I want because when I choose to be an instant townread I will be an instant townread. That and I'm going to find the mafia/mafia pair on day 1 so fuck off. No I'm not trying to be useful at all. I just want to be able to fucking read my filter without having to scroll back through the first 4-6 pages to figure out what the pairs are. Yes, you guys get to see it to. I don't care. And yes Hapa, you're up on the chopping block. This is a really fucking weird read coming from you. My question to you, what do you expect to gain from the town points for finding your chain of thought? fixed | ||
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On September 24 2014 14:49 Grackaroni wrote: Which Vayne quotes have seemed sensible? All he's done is talk about CR being a mafia medic. It's actually made me lean kind of townie on Vayne. I don't hate lynching 3p claims. It's a decent fall back if there's not a clear better lynch. It's pretty in line with what I've seen of him previously. Just how he's approaching what CR's said makes sense. I'd rather lynch mafia but it's nothing out of the ordinary for him. | ||
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On September 24 2014 14:49 yamato77 wrote: geript, other things happened comments? reading filters, wanted to post in QT something which I will likely do rather sporadically. Trying to find who I don't have any interest in lynching currently. Just trying to sort through the current bs. | ||
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On September 24 2014 07:59 Hapahauli wrote: Nah just throwing my vote around 'cause why not. What you said makes sense. I disagree, but makes sense. ##Unvote I'd much rather lynch mafia than a 3rd party. Also, how is he a mafia medic? If defender saves someone, they win with town, apparently regardless of the alignment of the saved person. This post feels a bit off to me. I don't think I've seen Hapa pressure someone for a reasonable play before then withdraw pressure so quickly. Idk, I just feel like as town he'd push grak a bit more to get a better read or until something more interesting came up. | ||
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On September 24 2014 11:44 MysteryMeat1 wrote: I actually dont like cr's play atm either. Hes roled mafia every game on tl, and complains everytime that he isnt town. I feel like he would be happier to play. This post makes me less happy about my partner. I feel like that if this was his experience he'd know how much CR has fakeclaimed previous and add that. I also don't see how if CR didn't roll town again why MM would expect CR to be happier as 3p bodyguard effectively is the worst of the worst. | ||
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On September 24 2014 12:33 Hapahauli wrote: That too. This specifically bugs me. I think town Hapa would point out that, regardless of alignment, I would get a QT. Hapa lumping that in the scum pile makes me think he's not actually concerned with thinking about the game critically. | ||
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On September 24 2014 15:16 yamato77 wrote: what do you think of me? | ||
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On September 24 2014 13:26 Grackaroni wrote: I'm a bit confused about this. The first quote seems to imply that CR might be mafia right? This makes me feel really good about my Grack read. | ||
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On September 24 2014 13:27 Hapahauli wrote: Honestly DP, you don't even have to understand my case beyond what Damdred said: Think about how awkard geript's posts sound in the context of the thread. There is a clear conversation topic that everyone is discussing (CR's claim), then he enters the thread and posts completely useless crap, then a summary post of pairings. See: above I generally don't care to argue with the one person in every one of my town games that always finds me scummy on day 1. It's a chore, and a waste of my time given that everyone else will read me as town. This post makes me really want to lynch the fuck out of Hapa. In my experience as mafia, it's far easier to create a believable narrative than it is to create a believable case. The fact that Hapa is pushing a narrative and using that specific quote as evidence feels exceptionally off. It's very weird of Hapa to let his "stonecold lock mafia read" be described as something as low as a "narrative." Maybe that's just semantics, but that's really odd. | ||
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On September 24 2014 13:44 yamato77 wrote: Hapa likes his early game tunnels. Yes he does. Boooh. Idk. I'll give Hapa more time. Still not a happy panda. | ||
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On September 24 2014 15:17 Grackaroni wrote: I think the reasoning there is that you're more likely to not notice a 2nd qt as scum than to not notice you got a qt as town. No this is a bad line of thinking. I said I didn't have a QT. Then I said, "oh I missed it." Like, me missing 2 QTs would be ridiculous. If I were mafia, I would've checked out the OP far more thoroughly than I have just to understand the setup as it's surprisingly odd. | ||
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On September 24 2014 14:03 DarthPunk wrote: Because I want to figure out if I am correct in my suspicions. I do that by pressuring him. Then, when I create something to talk about with that pressure I ask people what they think of it to figure out THEIR alignments. So that is why when I ask you a QUESTION RELATED TO THE DISCUSSION IN THE THREAD could you please answer it? Further Hapa tunnels in the early game but usually they are more inquisitive and less, well, bad. But hey, I haven't played with him for like a year so I could be wrong. Which is why I, and this is hilarious, Pressure him and ask others questions. Shocking I know. ??? This makes no sense to me. I think if you read the exchange carefully I think you can get some stuff to look at, but this post just feels like utter and complete bullshit. | ||
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On September 24 2014 15:42 DarthPunk wrote: You flatter me geript. I think I may blush. This is coming from me. My general D1 plan is to flounder until I feel like I've hit something of note. Like when I've seen you be mafia you tend to actually try and push something hard is some completely bullshitty type of way. It's why I was swinging towards mafia in the VS game towards the end of the day and after I died. | ||
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On September 24 2014 15:43 DarthPunk wrote: Why exactly is that post bullshit by the way? What exactly is bullshit about it? It just feels like you're trying to over explain something that doesn't ever need to be explained. Either way, for right now I'm not terribly interested in lynching you. | ||
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On September 24 2014 15:49 Hapahauli wrote: Abuse will posts when he posts. Regardless, it's better to vig an AFK player than waste a lynch on him. From the OP, it's likely town has KP. Yah but of the vets other than VE, I think you're the most likely to flip mafia imo. So lynching an AFK actually gives us better information on who to shoot. | ||
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On September 24 2014 15:50 DarthPunk wrote: I'm not sure describing everything I do as both alignments as bullshit is working for me. Like I have no idea what you are actually saying aside from I sound town this game because I have less direction compared to my scum games. If that is actually all you are saying and just feel the need to call me bullshit a ton then that makes sense. If you actually mean something further however could you like, extrapolate? Thanks I don't think everything you do as either alignment is bullshit. My experience though is that you often create an opening as either alignment. Often you make a mountain out of a mole hill. Or get in a shitfight. Or anything else. Some way to create motion in the thread and you don't care quite who it's about. What follows is more important to me but I think to some extent you can be read by how you "create motion in the thread" so to speak. | ||
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On September 24 2014 15:53 Hapahauli wrote: Not really. You'd want to lynch someone, shoot the AFK, then use that information to determine whether or not his partner is worth looking into. It's just so hard to get good information out of an AFK lynch, since the reasons are so straightforward. My experience when that happens is that the gunholders tend to think big rather than think productive. So quite often AFKers end up getting left around because town assumes they'll be shot or modkilled. I'd rather nip that shit in the bud and just delete and AFKer. | ||
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On September 24 2014 15:57 DarthPunk wrote: Wait geript. How did you get from this post: To this post. What are the reasoning/ thoughts that changed your mind? To some extent it's the reminder from Yam, that Hapa does like his early game tunnels. To some extent it's just thinking that I'll be able to read Hapa more objectively when he's not tunneling me. To some extent it's Hapa's direction after tunneling me. I think he's kinda townreading you and yam; which makes him look at VE more. But that's a bit concerning now that I think about it because of the CR claim. This isn't making me think of him more positively which is yet another reason why I want to lynch the AFK Abuse. But I don't tend to have a good history of reading people correctly when they're tunneled on me unless it's already pretty mid-late game. | ||
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On September 24 2014 16:00 Grackaroni wrote: nah there's still the Oats/Damdred group left out ##Vote: Oatsmaster oh I whatever. I need sleep. and right when a wild VE appears. | ||
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Ps. Should I leave the covers off tonight? | ||
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On September 24 2014 16:12 VisceraEyes wrote: I don't see why suggesting pairs by sign up order means anything with regard to his alignment - are you suggesting that the pairs have some bearing on alignment outside of the given possible layouts? Do tell if so, I've never been in a game that could be broken before. Well if he's mafia, in the 1 pair then he knows another set. If he's in the 2 pair, then he's less likely to propose that. The spontaneous nature of how quickly it came out is a bit for me. | ||
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On September 24 2014 16:27 Hapahauli wrote: Not really. It's just really fucking off. ? Huh. I don't get what you're referencing. Swear I'm going to sleep here soon. | ||
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On September 24 2014 17:01 Hapahauli wrote: Are you saying I don't do tone reads? huh? I can't really remember you doing them in any of the games I've played or read. I've always remembered you as logical and methodical. I actually am pretty sure on my read on VE. I want to sleep on it though. | ||
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On September 24 2014 17:03 DarthPunk wrote: I really don;t get what you are saying here. The switch from "objectively odd thing in VE's filter" to "odd tone read" isn't something I've seen from Hapa before as best I can recall. It's like a switch from "mafia logic" to "mafia feels." Maybe I've shoehorned Hapa into an incorrect idk generalization, but the first point is semi-convincing whereas the second one is less convincing and even more so coming from Hapa. | ||
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On September 24 2014 17:08 DarthPunk wrote: What is your VE read? I read your filter and it wasn't all that clear. I'll give it in the morning. I'll post it in QT so M&M can confirm it hasn't changed. I'd like to have a bit more from VE to be sure but I'm pretty sure I'm right. | ||
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All that said, after catching up from sleeping I'm far less confident in that read right now. Prome feels towny but his initial post made me want to lynch him. MM1 looks slightly better from what he's posted in QT but not enough that I'm sold he's town yet. Abuse's entry make me happy to lynch him. Need to put on my glasses and reread from comp a few times. | ||
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On September 25 2014 03:40 abuse wrote: You either share your gum with the entire class, or don't chew it in front of everybody. ![[image loading]](http://rs1img.memecdn.com/dramatic-alpaca_o_149957.gif) | ||
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On September 25 2014 03:38 abuse wrote: geript - explain why my entry makes you happy to lynch me? 1. Because there's no clear rhyme or reason to what you're posting. You're not going through methodically chronologically. You're also not going through in a thought process way (e.g. Me-> Hapa->DP->VE). 2. You're just commenting on things in a bland way that can end up in any sort of direction. 3. On first reading I'm kinda convinced by VE but would rather lynch you than test the waters with Hapa as I think the scum/scum pair is probably you/hapa or Oats/damdred. | ||
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On September 25 2014 04:37 Damdred wrote: I don't like that pairing though, I wish Geript would talk with me why he has mine and oats group down for the mafia team currently that bothers me. You seem to sling stuff and then just leave the thread or never respond to it It's mostly just PoE. I think the mafia-mafia pair right now is likely to be you/oats or hapa/abuse. TBH, I've mostly ignored you because I think the last 2 games I've incorrectly read you as mafia when you're town. | ||
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On September 25 2014 04:45 yamato77 wrote: Geript, how do you think I read VE? Magic 8 ball. No clue. I can't remember a game where I've seen how you read VE. For me, there's not a push from you that I can think of as more than just a prod to see how he responds. | ||
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On September 25 2014 04:46 Damdred wrote: Thats liek such a narrow focus for what 18 hours into the game? 21? Isn't it way to early for that? Meh, I think Yam is town; I'm prety sure Prome is town too. I pretty sure DP is town. I'm hook line and sinker that Grack is town; which is somewhat confirmed by the Prome/DP reading Kush as town. CR is most likely 3P. That narrows down the double mafia pair down quite well. | ||
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On September 25 2014 04:55 yamato77 wrote: So those posts where I call VE mafia give you no clue? Coming from you, yes. You quite often just make these meh pushes that you often retract. | ||
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On September 25 2014 01:55 yamato77 wrote: Town VE wouldn't be this confident in an early D1 scum read : / On September 25 2014 01:57 yamato77 wrote: VE, y u gotta be mafia. On September 25 2014 02:01 yamato77 wrote: VE, we were townbros last game. You can't fool me with this forced confidence. Fake bravado is a hallmark of your scum play. Yes Yam. This is not a good push on VE. There's nothing that would convince anyone of 1. you being serious about it or more importantly 2. you being right. So yes, that why I specifically asked about VE's push and likened it to Nomination and Boardwalk. Yes that's why I'm actually fine with MM1 pushing on both Hapa and VE. I don't think either are obviously town (even thought I'm treating Hapa as if I have a green check on him right now). I just don't terribly love either and I'm not in any way sure that either are mafia. | ||
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On September 25 2014 06:33 yamato77 wrote: Hapa saying exactly what I thought in long form. This might be true. It does make me feel a lot better about hapa. | ||
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On September 25 2014 07:12 Damdred wrote: so Geript where does this leave you on mafia now? I'm still slightly more tempted to lynch you/oats. Secondary is maybe Hapa/Abuse. I really want to see Abuse talk more honestly; I'm considering if we lynch VE and he flips town just flat out lynching abuse if he doesn't step his game up as a precursor to Hapa. But if VE flips Mafia then we likely tell CR to martyr or else he gets autolynched. CR doing fuck all this game doesn't make me feel any better about this game. This game is kinda interesting. Like it's kinda a hydra game, except that you don't know for sure that your other half is town. But if one person flips mafia, then unless the other partner is super town then I think it becomes really quite obvious to flip the other half. | ||
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On September 25 2014 07:27 kushm4sta wrote: kill one of these dudes 1. MysteryMeat1 2.Oatsmaster 3.Chairman Ray 11.Promethelax 14.VayneAuthority Why these people? | ||
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On September 25 2014 08:17 Hapahauli wrote: I can elaborate. But first you need to answer how the fuck you have a town-read on MM1 First off, my townread on MM1 isn't terribly strong. It's mostly based off of him posting things in the QT between when I was asleep and when I woke up that pretty heavily mirrored where I was at in general without me posting those thoughts anywhere. | ||
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On September 25 2014 08:50 Hapahauli wrote: You can understand why this is very unsatisfying to the rest of us, no? Yah, and it's why it's only a soft townread for me. Besides, I want to lynch into the double mafia pair. That combination makes me happy to both 1. not want to lynch MM1 today and 2. be fine looking at him more seriously later on. I highly doubt my read will change, but it's possible. But he brought up some interesting points on VE in QT and I'm fine. I actually want him to post more here because I'm the type of player that doesn't argue well and is rather vulnerable to QT manipulation (see GMarsh's last game where I replaced to be a mason with Vayne/VE/deadguy). As for abuse, I just generally like the tone of his posting. He sounds enthusiastic, is fairly attentive to the thread (I like how he pointed out your "read" of MM). When you jumped on him, he seemed pretty calm and reasonable about the whole thing, which I liked alot coming out of a not-so-experienced player: Certainly not the strongest town-read ever, but at the same time, I'm not lynching him today. No way. No. Like what Abuse said about VE was complete and utter trash and nothing similar to what I actually said about him. I've played with VE enough to be able to read him ok-ishly in the least (except in video where he's always mafia). What Abuse said: On September 25 2014 03:09 abuse wrote: VE seems trolly, but from what I've seen in another game I read up on, he did this then too, and was town aligned. Have him as null for now, though I'd prefer a more serious tone in games, because I think being trolly all the time makes you hard to read which is anti town. What I said: On September 25 2014 03:26 geript wrote: I want to play devil's advocate for a second. Before going to bed I was really gung-ho about VE being mafia. Specifically, my experience with townVE is that when he's trolly and active (which I'm super happy to see again btw) there's an underscore of "I will motherf'ing lynch you bish" to it. Something that I specifically noticed was lacking earlier. More damning though IMO was his accusation. Specifically, when VE is mafia (perhaps I should say when VE used to be mafia) he often tried to turn people's pushes back on themselves. He tried to pull it in Boardwalk and definitely did it These are not similar. Abuse's comment is exceptionally generic. He doesn't even take any stance on VE. It's "VE is trolling a bunch. I've seen it in a game previous when VE was town aligned. He's null because trolling all the time makes you hard to read." Second, you giving out tone reads is a huge warning sign for me. Even if you are trying to work on it, at least three times (abuse, VE and Me) you've created reads at least partially based on tone and in no way based on fact, logic or reason. If this is your town play it's ridiculous. You're better than this if you're town. Quite frankly, right now I'm pretty sure that I ended up on the wrong side of VE/Hapa/DP. ##unvote ##vote Hapahauli | ||
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On September 25 2014 08:52 Hapahauli wrote: Um... I just explained it? Also, how did I pass on Oats/Damdred? I find Damdred null. I find Oats town for reasons that I mentioned. I don't think it gets much clearer. And the reasons you've townread Oats are fucking ridiculous. You can't say he's particularly out there. I don't have a townread on him and I have a rather good track record of reading him correctly. He hasn't been particularly in your face and, while he is to some extent doing his own thing (which is semi-towny for him), he's not particularly cared about any of his pushes (which is far more of his scum play). So yah, giving Oats a free pass is very odd. | ||
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On September 25 2014 08:55 Damdred wrote: And i'm quite tired of Geript just throwing me and Oats out there their are plenty of other pairings that aren't clearly TOWN, so yea. Either explain or die Geript, like i've asked you to for like 50 billion times. I've explained it. Read my fucking filter. Perhaps you should use your brain cells for once. How many games in a row now have you *thought* that I was mafia and I was town? This is a big boy game so take off the pull ups and put on your big boy pants and your thinking cap. | ||
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On September 25 2014 09:06 Hapahauli wrote: Hm interesting. Your read on me seems to ebb and flow with how much I read you as mafia. Yah, because I don't think that town Hapa could possibly be dense enough to even consider me being mafia right now. | ||
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On September 25 2014 09:10 Damdred wrote: You aren't explaining shit though, just damdred and oats are scummy you aren't pulling anything from the game just repeating things over and over again without any direct evidence or any thought in it. There are other pairings that might not be town looking either, but you won't look at them its either damdred/oats or hapa/abuse with mine first. You don't get the problem with this? 1 VE is paired with CR. That pair is likely to be Town/3P or Mafia/3P. Highly unlikely to be Mafia/Mafia 2 Prom/Yam. Both are likely to be town here imo. I think it's pretty obvious but if one were mafia it's likely Yam. 3 DP/Vayn. I'm pretty sure DP is town. I explained it last night. Vayn I would be happy to lynch because I have no fucking clue how to read him and he hasn't posted a whole bunch to read him off of either. Either way, not likley to be Mafia/mafia. 4 Me/MM. I'm town. I'm thinking MM is town. So there's no point in looking into this D1. 5 Abuse/Hapa. Abuse has done nothing and honestly is a decent policy lynch. Hapa's been very towny and very scummy. I really don't in any way understand his thought process behind relying so heavily on tone reads. Learning how to do it, fine. Putting it into practice fine. Doing so while not equally making good pushes against people for logical reasons that actually carry weight... very bad. If there's a mafia/mafia pair in the vets, this is most likely it. 6 Grak/Kush. Prom and DP, who I think are town, both have a townread on Kush. I have a pretty solid townread on grack. I'm pretty sure this is a town/town group. 7 Damdred/Oats. As I see it, the mafia/mafia pair is either you and oats or Hapa and abuse. Neither you nor Oats have done anything that I find to be particularly towny. I'm not good at actually reading your alignment so PoE is a quite beneficial way for me to narrow shit down. Use your head. I already explained this. | ||
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On September 25 2014 09:28 yamato77 wrote: well hapa, geript gave you what you wanted wtf are you talking about? I'm very serious about lynching Hapa right now. | ||
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On September 25 2014 09:35 Hapahauli wrote: Yamato and geript, talk to me about grack. Why is he town? 1. Look at how he's approaching the game. Him independently wanting to look for the mafia/mafia group is slightly towny. Plus he stood up to you when you crowed at him. I don't think mafia would be as sure of themselves there to do that. 2. The "maybe pairs are by sign up thing" You guys aren't going to like it but I think it's a reasonable 3. He's partners with Kush. I personally have no feelings about Kush either way, I think we both tend to prefer not to play games with each other (him because I'm an asshat and me because I hate lurkers). But both DP and Prome and I think Yam too maybe townreading Kush makes me want to look elsewhere. Plus. On September 24 2014 10:40 Grackaroni wrote: I was actually leaning more townie on Hapa. I liked his explanation for voting me. This is a post I didn't terribly like but I can see a less aggressive player going that way and I've seen lots of less good/experienced players do this as town. On September 24 2014 13:26 Grackaroni wrote: I'm a bit confused about this. The first quote seems to imply that CR might be mafia right? I liked this post too. It was something that I had missed and made me think seriously about my partner. Lastly, for some reason I remember someone saying he was really easy to catch as scum. | ||
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On September 25 2014 10:08 Hapahauli wrote: I'm not? I just don't think he's mafia. Do you have any reasons to think he's mafia? I don't have any reason to think he's town. And you've been exceptionally scummy at points and weird and odd and defended him for imo exceptionally bad reasons. All of those lead to me thinking a flip on him is exceptionally valuable information. | ||
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On September 25 2014 10:39 Damdred wrote: I think geript at this point I'm just vastly disagreeing with your method of scum hunting. I really do not like lets flip one person at this stage and get to the other if we can pin down two scummy people that's fine. Just for arguments sake, if we lynch MM and he flips red should we flip you to? If abuse flips green does that make hapa scummy or town? I think Prome covered this quite well. A red flip means that we should treat the partner as if they've been red checked by a cop with the recognition that a framer is in the game. FWIW, I think a green/blue flip should approximately equal a green check with recognition that a framer is in the game. So to answer your question, if MM flips mafia, which I doubt will happen, then it's perfectly fine to more heavily scrutinize my play. I don't think that a red flip automatically means we should flip the other person. Specifically what I'm saying is I have zero reason to think either you or Oats are town and I have a bunch of town reads. Flipping either of you makes perfect sense. Flipping Abuse makes reasonable sense as well as I think it reveals far more about Hapa's alignment than most anything else. | ||
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What do you guys make of Oats/Damdred having no opinion of each other. It seems like most everyone active has a specific read on their partner. But like Damdred has mostly been bitching about me thinking his pairing is a good flip despite explaining it multiple times while saying/thinking nothing about his partner and Oats is mia on any actual intelligent issue. | ||
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On September 25 2014 11:28 Damdred wrote: This is the biggest mess of wifom at least when it comes to me. If I gave opinions or town reads on Oats you would start screaming die damdred die like you have been screaming at hapa and abuse. I have no opinions about Oats because hes quiet in the QT overall and he hasn't done anything hugely alignment oriented in the thread. I'm not going to give some opinion that isn't their and tell you i'm secure in knowing hes not scum. I think its highly likely that hes town based on that i'm town, but thats not a real basis for an opinion and I would be remiss in basing my read on that. And I have stated many times i disagree with your method of scum hunting this game, look at the people who are acting scummy not at the people who you can't tell if they are town or not. so you have no opinion of your partner and he hasnt' done anything in thread or QT and you think it's bad of me to think you and Oats could be the mafia pair? | ||
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On September 25 2014 08:36 Damdred wrote: I think DP is pretty scummy, oats and I were talking about it this morning a bit there are a few things that concern me about his postings a bit. On September 25 2014 11:28 Damdred wrote: This is the biggest mess of wifom at least when it comes to me. If I gave opinions or town reads on Oats you would start screaming die damdred die like you have been screaming at hapa and abuse. I have no opinions about Oats because hes quiet in the QT overall and he hasn't done anything hugely alignment oriented in the thread. I'm not going to give some opinion that isn't their and tell you i'm secure in knowing hes not scum. I think its highly likely that hes town based on that i'm town, but thats not a real basis for an opinion and I would be remiss in basing my read on that. And I have stated many times i disagree with your method of scum hunting this game, look at the people who are acting scummy not at the people who you can't tell if they are town or not. @Yam/Hapa/VE/Prome Does these statements jive with you at all? Like these really bug me together. By that I mean that MM1 hasn't said a bunch in our QT, but there've been a few new points he's made there that that I don't think he's made in the thread + Show Spoiler + For example, MM1 brought up that VE has been wrong about MM1's alignment when VE is town most of the time | ||
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On September 25 2014 12:21 Damdred wrote: You are taking what I said out of context. Obviously because we've talked it must be a ton right? It could be a little or it could be a lot. As of now oats activity in the thread matches activity in the qt. A bit less in the qt probably. And no I do not agree with reading myself as scum based on a faulty associative read that is not proven. What you say doesn't jive with you is just you painting null things as scummy. I don't think I'm taking anything out of context. I find it odd that you have no read of him. I find it especially odd that you have no read on him considering that you and he seem to be on the same page now and were on the same page this morning. By this I mean, Hapa has a townread on Abuse; I think it's shitty, but to some extent I can understand it because I'm confirmed town to myself and that skews my view of how I perceive MM1. I think MM1 has a similar reasoning for his read on him. I think Yam and Prome have similar reasons for reading each other. I specifically find it odd that neither of you seem to have any opinion on each other when most other players seem to have that perspective. | ||
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On September 25 2014 12:26 geript wrote: I don't think I'm taking anything out of context. I find it odd that you have no read of him. I find it especially odd that you have no read on him considering that you and he seem to be on the same page now and were on the same page this morning. By this I mean, Hapa has a townread on Abuse; I think it's shitty, but to some extent I can understand it because I'm confirmed town to myself and that skews my view of how I perceive MM1. I think MM1 has a similar reasoning for his read on me. I think Yam and Prome have similar reasons for reading each other that way. IIRC DP seems reasonably ok with Vayn. I specifically find it odd that neither of you seem to have any opinion on each other when most other players seem to have that perspective. I usually don't quote myself, but I really think this point is important. Most players seem to have the perspective of: I know I'm town. I'm on a similar-ish page with my partner. Therefore I think my partner is town. Yet while Damdred and Oats are pushing similar agendas on who they want to lynch at various points, neither have out right stated an opinion on each other and specifically Damdred has no opinion of Oats. | ||
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On September 25 2014 11:28 Damdred wrote: This is the biggest mess of wifom at least when it comes to me. If I gave opinions or town reads on Oats you would start screaming die damdred die like you have been screaming at hapa and abuse. I have no opinions about Oats because hes quiet in the QT overall and he hasn't done anything hugely alignment oriented in the thread. I'm not going to give some opinion that isn't their and tell you i'm secure in knowing hes not scum. I think its highly likely that hes town based on that i'm town, but thats not a real basis for an opinion and I would be remiss in basing my read on that. And I have stated many times i disagree with your method of scum hunting this game, look at the people who are acting scummy not at the people who you can't tell if they are town or not. So no when you're pressured you assume he's town but you have no opinions on him still? | ||
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We also really need to start consolidating on one lynch. ##unvote ##vote Damdred I could maybe lynch VE. If we have to settle CR or Abuse aren't bad as lurker policy lynches. I think the mafia pair is Oats/Damdred though. | ||
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On September 25 2014 12:53 Hapahauli wrote: We're still lynching VE today. I havent' seen a single person disagree with my case. Look at Damdred specifically what I posted. | ||
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On September 25 2014 12:56 MysteryMeat1 wrote: I think damdred is a better lynch honestly. If he flips red then oats is probably mafia. If ve flips red then we arent gonna lynch cr Incorrect if VE flips red and CR doesn't martyr himself we 100% lynch the pair. | ||
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On September 25 2014 12:53 Hapahauli wrote: We're still lynching VE today. I havent' seen a single person disagree with my case. Where'd you go? | ||
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On September 25 2014 13:01 Damdred wrote: This push on me feels so scummy right now lol. You guys do not even have a case on me So you're mad that I have a townread on most other teams. Please whine more. | ||
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On September 25 2014 13:03 Hapahauli wrote: I did and it's an interesting observation, but that's about it. It's plausible to talk with a null read about scum-reads. The QT is there... it's hard to ignore it unless you're super suspicious of your partner. Hell being on the same page isn't necessarily a bad thing. It would be one thing if he thought Oats was mafia. Oats null? I'm very unconvinced by the argument. At the very least, it's not stronger than the one on VE. I disagree. The odds of VE/CR being a mafia/mafia pair is reasonably low. We both agree on that. Where's the double mafia pair then Hapa? | ||
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On September 25 2014 13:08 geript wrote: Plus, I think the cost of being wrong on VE is exceptionally high. Fixed | ||
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On September 25 2014 13:07 Hapahauli wrote: Why care about the mafia pair? I care about my mafia reads. VE is by far my strongest. I have a good case on him, apparently everyone thinks I have a good case on him, so lets lynch him. As for the mafia pair, I don't know. I'm re-reading. If I have an opinion worth posting, I'll post it. Yah well, you're going to have to convince me of a pair because I don't trust you fully and I think your read can be wrong and the implications of having a bad read there are exceptionally detrimental. | ||
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On September 25 2014 13:16 Grackaroni wrote: I would actually be willing to lynch VE despite what I said at the start of the day. I'm not happy though that Oats wouldn't make an effort to talk to me. Then let's lynch Oats or Damdred. If VE flips town and if CR doesn't martyr, then town is in a really shitty position. | ||
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On September 25 2014 13:22 Hapahauli wrote: You are making statements about risk that do not make sense. How is it a "shitty" position, as opposed to a slightly less optimal one? Because then we're almost priced into lynching CR because he's likely poisoner or arsonist. | ||
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On September 25 2014 13:27 Hapahauli wrote: Also dealing with CR is extremely easy. We just promise as a town to lynch him if he doesn't use his power night 1. That's my point. If VE doesn't flip red, then by your plan we can essentially be locked into 2 lynches with your plan instead of just 1. I don't like that at all when I'm not confident that you are town and that your read is actually solid. | ||
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On September 25 2014 13:42 Hapahauli wrote: No shit. I have to go to bed earlier than 6am tonight. Make your meta case on Damdred and I'll take a look tomorrow morning. I don't really trust my meta read on him. Last time I went through 4-5 games and got his alignment all wrong. That's why I want you and DP and others to actually give feedback on what I said and on him. I feel like no matter what his alignment is I'm always going to find him scummy so I'd like outside opinions. | ||
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On September 25 2014 14:33 Chairman Ray wrote:  ##unvote ##vote Chairman Ray This is how you want to play. Well now we just lynch the fuck out of you so you always lose. If I were a mod, I would've modkilled you for your play so far. Regardless of you getting any alignment, what you've done (or more appropriately not done) is entirely not acceptable. You will not win this game. Not with town. Not with Mafia. Not on your own. You just die. | ||
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On September 25 2014 14:54 Chairman Ray wrote: What am I supposed to do? Do you want to be lynched today? You don't get a free pass. DP is happy with you as a fallback lynch. I'll lynch the fuck out of you right now. I've got my 151. Vayn is happy lynching your ass. I doubt anyone actually gives a fuck about not lynching you. If you want to live, then you actually ahve to help town or else we throw the baby out with the bathwater. | ||
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On September 25 2014 15:06 Chairman Ray wrote: I'm not sure what this faction is even supposed to do in the game. I can be active and play town, but I win with either town or mafia, so there really isn't an incentive for me to help town or mafia. How I see it, this is just a 13 player game, where I'm a spectator that can talk. I also have an action that can interfere with the game, but it really doesn't change the outcome for me if I win either way. Well here's how I see it. Since there isn't any incentive for you to help town or mafia, then you're mafia siding. Therefore you die. So enjoy losing because you feel there's no reason to play to your win condition of surviving. | ||
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On September 25 2014 15:48 DarthPunk wrote: Maybe but he looks much more like I would expect and therefore better to me right now. I don't particularly want to lynch Hapa OR VE today. Talk to me about Damdred Geript. I felt like he asked some pretty crappy questions of me, and then rode that initial questioning to the bank. He rehashed the same questions a bunch, asked people about what they thought of me a bunch, and said he was waiting for me to respond a bunch. Doesn't really come across as genuine or effective scum-hunting. Thoughts? I think the likeliest mafia/mafia pair is damdred/oats. I even just pointed out some shit about him at the top of the page. Right now with as ridiculously as CR is acting though, he might just actually be mafia and VE also be mafia. Part of the problem is I have no clue how to read Damdred as each and every time I've tried to read him I've thought he was scum and he was town. And each and every time he has no clue how to actually read me. So he might legitimately just be awful at reading me and a less experienced player. I just can't see how anything in his filter makes him town and I think there's good reason to think at least 1 person in each other group is town. Yes, deep down I still think CR is 3P but with how he's playing that's a crap shoot; and honestly I'm seriously betting not the martyr one. | ||
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On September 25 2014 16:09 Chairman Ray wrote: I'm flattered that you think my reads are so good it's worth trading a lynch for. Seeing as how you've given no reads, it's more a policy thing. | ||
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On September 25 2014 16:15 MysteryMeat1 wrote: I still don't think CR is mafia, he is most probably 3p, lynching him today does nothing unless he is the poisoner. I'd rather lynch Damdred And he's admitted multiple times that he intends to do nothing. Lynch it. | ||
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On September 25 2014 16:31 Chairman Ray wrote: You lynch me when there's an incentive to lynch me, not when there's a lack of incentive not to lynch me. If I do absolutely nothing at all, then lynching me would be no different than a no-lynch, which is unfavorable for town. If I actually do play against town by disrupting the thread or posting reads on townroles or something, then there's an incentive to lynch me. Enjoy getting lynched today then. You do nothing we 100% lynch you today. You don't martyr tonight, we 100% lynch you tomorrow. There's no grey line. Now since once you martyr, you have a town win condition, then you might want to start trying to figure out who mafia is. Because any help you can give to what your actual win condition will be would be appreciated. Otherwise, you can just lose now. | ||
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On September 25 2014 16:44 DarthPunk wrote: I basically agree with this concept, although I would much rather lynch scum today and have you be productive for the town. I don't think anyone could possibly not see that role and not assume that they're essentially an innocent child that's forced to martyr N1. Hence why I think it's equally good to lynch him now. | ||
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On September 25 2014 17:08 Chairman Ray wrote: Finally someone starts making sense. I have waited all night to hear this. 3rd party favor points for you DP! Right now I think lynching me is an empty threat. If you can prove otherwise, I'll have to help town in order to survive. The way I see it, I choose if I want to help town, help mafia, help both, or help neither. You are saying that I choose help town or I get lynched. My move will be to help neither. At this time you can either lynch me, which is harming town, or lynch normally, which is helping town. I don't think town will choose to lynch me. Giving out "favor points" doesn't help you win. You're at most a team of 3. We're likely a team of 10. First off, your life is in our hands, not the other way around. You don't set the rules, we do. Your life in this game is at our leisure. Not the other way around. Coming on 36 hours, the only positive thing you've done is claim 3P. Perhaps you don't know this about TL, but we lynch 3P claims all the fucking time. Plus, in this game there's a 66% chance that you are detrimental to town. You've fucked up if you think that claiming alone protects you. It doesn't in any way. Us lynching you is not an empty threat. Me and DP will push this shit through. This is not a joke. This is not funny. You play by our rules or we kick you out. | ||
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On September 25 2014 17:40 Chairman Ray wrote: As I said, I am not going to start helping town if you are forcing me to help town or die. I'm more of a braveheart type of guy where you can take my life, but you cannot take my freedom. But you do realize that lynching me is hurting town right? Town gains nothing from it, and you even lose a lynch. That's a pretty big detriment to town. So why are you doing this? Lynching you does not hurt town. Sure it may not get mafia but we're good enough to do that without you. Plus, you're not likely to be the martyr by your play so far, so it actually is a 50/50 to save a random (most likely town) death. You want to win, then play to what win conditions you have left. Here's a hint, it involves reading and giving opinions. | ||
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On September 25 2014 01:39 Promethelax wrote: Would take Dam as town. He was unhappy I hadn't noticed him which is good. Scum generally don't want people to pay attention to them and his post complaining that I hadn't noticed him is quite townie. FWIW Prome, I've been thinking about this post on and off and I'm very twisted on it. I get the read 100%, but a lot of times as mafia when I've put in a bunch of work and think people would read me as super towny geript I get frustrated when people don't read me that way. I can see it working both ways. IDK, maybe I was wrong and it's DP/Vayne. Maybe I was right about Hapa. Maybe my townread on Grack was bad; but at least 2 of my town think Kush looks towny. Idk I feel really lost because I have a townread on someone in each group except for VE/CR. | ||
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On September 26 2014 03:21 Damdred wrote: @Prom, Yamatos style of townplay has been pretty simple the past 6 games I think i've played with him. Its been mostly a running narrative with his thoughts thrown in. He seems generally invested in the thread at this point, and has some thoughts it seems behind what he is saying, even if they are simplistic and not expounded upon yet they are their. This has been a staple of yamatos town game for awhile now, and while it would be pretty easy to fake this as scum, yamato generally becomes really demotivated pretty fast and just lurks and taunts a bit. Neither of which he is doing here, so i'm town reading him for now if his play degrades then i'll start looking at him again it just looks like town yamato. This is a pretty solid summary. | ||
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On August 27 2014 19:07 abuse wrote: meatpudding His reply to my initial first 4 questions satisfies me deeply (no perv intended) He is giving an experienced player vibe, even though this is a newbie game. He seems to be the only person to actually read my posts how I intended them to be read, and does good analysis of the situation. Same as Barakos, even if he turns out to be scum in the end(which I also do not believe to be the case), I think having him along the way will still help town a lot. His posts are logical and have meaning behind them. He does not try to ignore questions and try to negatively push any flaws he sees in others' posts. He asks about them instead of attacking. Also - I do not see him to be the cop, I do see him as town though. This is the only type of thing I really have to fault when comparing the two. He earlyish into D1 (started on p6 and he posted a series of these at p11) that he goes through a bit methodically about reading people. He hasn't really done this at all. He seems really detached in general in comparison. There's a minor townie point for him and his gum comment on me as that type of attitude pervades his newbie filter, but the rest of what he posted seems pretty different actually. | ||
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On September 25 2014 03:40 abuse wrote: You either share your gum with the entire class, or don't chew it in front of everybody. This post was the one that Hapa has quoted for why Abuse is town. | ||
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CR is the safe no one will really fight it lynch. Abuse is an ok lurker lynch, Vayne is too maybe. Kush I could lynch but I doubt the support's there. Damdred is maybe an ok lynch but I think it's too likely that I'm reading him wrong. VE has sorta faded out. Kinda reminds me of when he was mafia in gmarsh's game. The tone thing and reversing Hapa's argument on himself feels a bit bad and there's Hapa's arguments too. Hapa I think was too active to lynch today; I think in the long run lynching abuse makes more sense there. Plus he's been all over the place for me. I still don't see how he ever thought I was mafia and him returning to that read made me feel even more odd about him. DP I think is town but I don't think he's been terribly useful. Kinda in the same boat as Yam. I think Grack's town. | ||
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On September 26 2014 04:47 Damdred wrote: Geript did you say something to MM in QT that isn't in thread that is making him reverse his stance on oats and myself? I said the same thing I said in thread. Oats' return makes me feel far more comfortable with him as town. | ||
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On September 26 2014 04:48 Hapahauli wrote: We're still lynching VE. How can you make this post and have read the thread? It's a complete cop-out vote. Put your vote on someone that provides no impact, that everyone abandoned for today, and provides literally no useful information towards finding mafia. Regarding my meta case, DP did bring up a good point about him going after DP in "The Game." So that part of my meta case was wrong - didn't expect to have to go back 20 town games. Regardless, I do not believe town-VE is the type of player that's town-reading MM1 and Damdred so early into the game. That's very, very unlike any of his town games, including "the game." We need to start consolidating. The people voting Damdred and Oats still have not made a case on them and are doing some weird process of elimination thing, which is not an adequate reason to lynch someone. On September 26 2014 03:26 geript wrote: @Prome Here is a link to his only game here; idk if (s)he's played elsewhere. At first glance it seems pretty standard new player flaws and was modkilled N2 (I'm assuming for inactivity but I'll doublecheck). On September 26 2014 03:35 geript wrote: This is the only type of thing I really have to fault when comparing the two. He earlyish into D1 (started on p6 and he posted a series of these at p11) that he goes through a bit methodically about reading people. He hasn't really done this at all. He seems really detached in general in comparison. There's a minor townie point for him and his gum comment on me as that type of attitude pervades his newbie filter, but the rest of what he posted seems pretty different actually. Here's something to look at. Both Prome and I agreed on it. | ||
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On September 26 2014 05:02 Promethelax wrote: I want to lynch VE. Next day I'd like to look at both abuse and VA both still look scummy to me but I don't have the support to force their lynches today and, honestly, I'm more interested in seeing a VE flip. More people said things about him and he is therefore a more useful flip for town. Who do you want to lynch geript? Honestly I'm really torn between Abuse and VE with a side of CR. Like I think there's almost no way CR is the martyr 3P right now. He's not at all playing like he's going to end with a "win with town" wincon; that's really telling for me. He also spend most of the day doing nothing and the other half of the day pretending he's in some lala world. I don't see him getting any better; i don't think his flip helps with VE, but I think we'll end up lynching him at some point so I'd rather clear him now before he kills a town. On Abuse, I mean half policy half acting differently half I don't trust Hapa. On VE, I don't hate parts of Hapa's case and I've listed my own reasons multiple times. It's just that my ass is itching and I think he'll probly flip town. | ||
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On September 26 2014 05:18 Promethelax wrote: I had a dream about the balance for this game. It suggested that the 3p has to be anti-town because 10-3 is essentially balanced to begin with. 10-3 with mason pairs is very town favoured, even more so since we know the alignments of the pairs. Since there is a 3p it has to be anti town to make up for the masoning of the players. I've been thinking about that. I'm not sure if HaruRH would think that or if Kita/Fool/Gmarsh/whoever would make that argument. I'm also not sure if they would allow it to be "tried" without a "true 3P." | ||
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On September 26 2014 04:55 abuse wrote: What? did you even read any of my posts afterwards? Several times did I mention that I think vayne is scummy. Also - deadline comming up, still no info at all from vayne... So.. you're trying to lynch me because you don't like hapa.. ? What is this. head out of ass please. This really bugs me. It feels very off from where he should be. He's frustrated that people aren't reading his posts and thinks he's mafia and says "head out of ass please" I really feel like this is similar to when I was mafia for the first time in the Game and responded to BH (my mafia partner when he was pressuring me) "Because I didn't think I could use it (pre-used rng)?" Especially after the newbie game he played in I really don't see him not just saying something simple and straight forward like "get your head out of your ass." | ||
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On September 26 2014 05:21 abuse wrote: How on earth is it policy to lynch an activity like mine, and not policy to lynch Vayne. Seriously. Pls do explain, because I sure as hell can't get this in my skull, yet this has been pushed more than once already. Because historically, when Vayne barely plays it's because he's town and doesn't want to be NK'd. We don't have any sort of history like that for you. And no one is giving Vayne a free pass; it's just that there actually are people who look worse. | ||
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On September 26 2014 06:49 yamato77 wrote: Pretty sure damdred has been more useful than anyone but Hapa today. Bullshit, Damdred has done absolutely nothing today. | ||
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On September 26 2014 08:06 Damdred wrote: I dislike vaynes plan we should just scum hunt normally and we have a big to help us some It's a really fucking great plan assuming the CR issue resolves itself, it's a huge boon. Like assuming CR dies tonight and flips 3P, then any lynch is a perfect cop check on the partner. | ||
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On September 26 2014 12:23 VayneAuthority wrote: abuse is confirmed town if CR isnt mafia* Correct. I'd take his opinions with a grain of salt still considering his experience. | ||
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However, assuming CR flips blue tonight we have the following scenario: ChairmanRay // VisceraEyes Hapahauli // Abuse VayneAuthority // DarthPunk Grackaroni // Kushm4sta Geript // MysteryMeat1 Oatsmaster // Damdred Promethelax // yamato77 I think I'd consider tracking/cop checking Grack/Kush, then Vayne/DP, then Oats/Damdred. If you're a cop, it's probably worth checking both people in a pair. Trackers are kinda random anyways but I think I'd look at Grack first. I think Prome and DP had a townread on Kush and I know I had a townread on Grack, but realistically they've done nothing. Random setup speculation. If CR is mafia, then I'll bet that the lone mafia is the GF so there's little point in the cop ever outing. Tracker would still be useful though. If CR is martyr, then I'm guessing that we don't have a vigilante. My guess is the setup for mafia would be bonder/gf/goon. And for town I'd guess tracker/martyr or maybe cop/martyr. | ||
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On September 26 2014 16:28 Oatsmaster wrote: Actually now that I think about it, Hapa couldve bussed VE. I agree. Let's lynch Hapa or shoot him tonight. | ||
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On September 26 2014 19:05 Promethelax wrote: If you prove worth listening to people will listen to you, that is how it works in everything. This site has a tone of talent when it comes to mafia and so we often ignore newer payers who are less talented. That isn't the best way to be I agree but it is how we are. If you want us to listin to you say something worth listening to instead of bitching about how we view you. Fwiw, it was more so that I didn't really think that highly of the reads abuse has given so far and I didn't want people taking his word as gospel if he got confirmed. You know how confirmed town status can be sometimes. Didn't really have anything to do with not being a vet; just not having reads that impressed me. | ||
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On September 27 2014 02:29 yamato77 wrote: Hilariously town favored setup. Once CR flips it becomes impossible for mafia to win IMO. Not really, especially if CR isn't 3P or isn't martyr. Yah town getting off to a lead can definitely make it much harder for mafia but decent active play and smart kills can make it quite possible. | ||
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On September 27 2014 07:19 Promethelax wrote: Why me? After D1 there are four potential reasonable kills. Me, DP, Yam and you. If CR is 3P, killing me or DP confirms our partners both of which are potential lynch bait. Between you and Yam, you've said less but been more active; yam is doing his annoying sparse comments little explanation little leading thing. I just can't see if a vet hit happened it being on anyone but you. Am I right? | ||
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On September 27 2014 08:00 Chairman Ray wrote: All I do is pick a faction, and if someone from that faction is killed, then I save them instead. I don't get to know who dies, or choose who get saved. Idk how priority works if multiple people die, never asked that. I'm saying, would you like to post baby seals or try and explain why I tracked you to Prome. | ||
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@Prome would you like to claim 3P defender now? I'm actually pretty sure that you're 3P and not vet because of how you approached CR and VE. I thought about trying to let it play out differently and potentially let you take another hit or sacrifice yourself, but I'm pretty sure it's better for town to force you to claim. | ||
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On September 26 2014 18:06 abuse wrote: what the fuck is this, I don't even. Because inexperienced people cannot think strategically and are blind to everything going on in the game? Or should I take this as your godly permission to lurk from now on? Pretty obvious what we should do in case CR flips blue. As previously stated - Lynch/check one person per pair until we hit jackpot. considering the fact that scum will also be shooting people at the next night, we should have our answer in a day or so and you don't need much of a brain to figure this out. I don't think Abuse has any potential shot of being mafia and making this post. Being a newer player and being mafia on a team of CR/VE/Abuse, I don't think anyone could have guided him to make this post. This is the exact 100% down to a tee type of post that newer players who are town and run up against "vet superiority complexes" make. Prome might disagree, but I doubt it. I don't think that this sort of frustration with the air of arrogance that can be at TL can be faked well or even be thought of in order to fake by new scum. If he did, my hat is off to you sir. + Show Spoiler [A longer explanation] + A new player who rolls scum would normally be exceptionally happy to get a freebie potential permanent town read. Second, knowing that CR is mafia, he would know that CR isn't going to martyr that night so the permanent townread isn't ever going to happen. Between those two points, it's a huge leap for a new player who's mafia to realize that if he were town he would be exceptionally mad because CR being 3P automatically makes him town. And a player 'shitting' on a player who sees himself as confirmed town (even though he's not technically confirmed) would get pissed that his opinion isn't be valued, listened to, etc. Additionally, Hapa had a town opinion of Abuse. I'm guessing Abuse may have written something in his filter that gave Hapa that feel. I personally wouldn't ever lynch Abuse right now after rereading. Again, please treat Abuse as if he's been green checked and is 98% confirmed town. Also, please reasonably evaluate his reads and look at his observations but take them with the perspective that they come from a less experienced player. [b]@Abuse[b] On a personal level: Also, fwiw, when I started I was fucking terrible. Lots of people would actually say I still am fucking terrible. But in my first non-newbie game, I made some very good observations that people listened to when I read and pointed them out. I made some other observations that people actually read them critically, thought about them and followed up on them then they would've caught a mafia. I don't think you're a good player. Prove me wrong. Reread. Clearly explain why you think what you think. We have 1 mafia left. Help me find them. Prove my ass wrong. I promise whole-heartedly read every word and reason you have and think about it. PS. I'm going to reread your filter again when I get up in the morning. | ||
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On September 27 2014 08:12 Chairman Ray wrote: We were like so close to killing you too geript. I really wanted to kill you, but my scum partner was too stubborn about killing prom. If it were up to me, we would be in a decent spot. Anyways, gg, was fun having a fakeclaim game FWIW CR, while I think the hit on Prome is pretty obvious and you guys got really unlucky with him being either Vet or 3P defender (like 99% the latter), this is not a post you should have made. It gives too many hints as to who your partner could be. I think post is potentially honest. Considering that the hit was 100% on Prome, there are very few players in my opinion who would force a strongly beneficial kill in a no-medic setup. I think it's worth considering that I was being discussed as an NK, but don't put too terribly much weight in it. It's better to just ask, "Who is the most likely to make a Prome kill here?" On DP: He's really experienced. He also doesn't think much of my play. There's no way in hell he'd let anyone NK me on N1 unless I'm a claimed power role. There's some suspicious aspects of his play (trying to move the VE lynch). I had a townread on him D1 but I don't think what he did was exceptionally obviously town. It's a metaread for being town and that's not enough for D2. Some of his early townreads make me pretty suspicious of him specifically regarding Oats and Kush iirc. I also think that for as rarely as he seems to play, if he were town in this game he'd actually try to flaunt how much better he is than everyone else. He's who I'm going to track tonight. On Yam: I don't think he's obviously town. He's been pretty passive. I think in a stacked game like this that he would actually try harder as town. He was on the right track to some extent D1, but in my experience in his mafia games he tends to not stick his neck out too far because of his town reputation. On Oats: Oats is a vet and his reads are pretty decent when he tries. I haven't been impressed with any of his reads in thread. He's also experienced enough to make sure that Prome is the target. He kinda exploded towniness last night, but I know that he actually can do that as mafia too. On Vayne: I don't think he's cared about actually being right this game. His early desire to kill CR is more suspect with CR being mafia now considering his reasoning especially seeing as how he's changed his views later on. Also, from what I recall he doesn't really enjoy playing mafia. So after CR claims 3P, I can 100% see him claiming a town role in QT as a "fuck this game, I'll just put as little effort into playing as possible." Having played with him and talking some in a QT in GMarsh's last game, I actually have a decent respect for his reads. He can be exceptionally good as town and often has some solid reasons as for why. While I liked his spike of activity early on, it scared me considering what I understand of him. As well, I haven't seen the good reads from him that I've seen previously. On Grack: He's played a decent amount imo. I think he's experienced enough to realize that Prome is the right call. Plus, I was townreading him so that's a reason to keep me around over Prome too. I don't have anything more specific For people who I'm less sure that they would want to kill Prome: On Damdred: I was pretty heavily against Damdred D1. He'd have a good reason to kill me since I'm likely to keep him in the spotlight for a while. I'm not sure how experienced he is and if he'd look to kill Prome over constant pressure. He could be scum but I don't think that the Prome NK heavily implicates him. On MysteryMeat1: I don't know enough about him and haven't played with him enough to really know what he would do. I was townreading him so I doubt he would want to NK. AFAIK he's friends with VE and knows VE well enough to know that Yam, Prome and DP are all strong town players when they want to be. | ||
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On September 27 2014 17:27 Promethelax wrote: You ain't too bright there, eh bud? If I was 3p and shot by mafia last night I'd be dead. Hmmm I was reading the "body block aspect" wrong then. I just want to be clear just in case because the sample role pms aren't exactly the best. Claiming vet? | ||
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On September 27 2014 17:30 Promethelax wrote: People who would shoot me in this game: Oats Yamato DP Kush People I have histories with who I have expressed town reads of, no one else makes sense because I really haven't been playing terribly well or done anything very interesting. I think it's worth considering the kills in regards of Hapa dying. VE being the vengful mafia makes the game pretty drastically different. | ||
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@Prome could you check my read on Abuse. Do you agree with it and the reasoning behind it? | ||
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You covered Oats reasonably, but early on I had a small scumread on him. Plus his end of day looks significantly worse post flips. Plus he's a player who 100% would be pissed if his partner pulled shit like CR did. I think I explained DP/Yam already. Mostly lack of being super town, being right with no clear thought process, being wrong. Stuff. Kush just because I can't read him. You and DP did have townreads on him though. | ||
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On September 27 2014 18:20 Oatsmaster wrote: Activity arguments not relevant, I've been playing like this for a while. Promes argument falls apart when he is saying that I would avoid him as scum. Is making a case on him avoiding him? I don't think so. Also, as scum I'm super happy with town reads, why the funk would I argue against it? That's just bad scum play. Geript, why is prome necessarily defender rather than the other 2? I thought defender could only die if he's lynched or martyrs. | ||
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On September 27 2014 20:07 abuse wrote: I see. Still, if vayne's claim is not fake, then considering we only have 1 scum after CR, he is unkillable by scum. Town wins if the last 3P role is defender. His claim is almost certainly fake. | ||
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On September 24 2014 11:43 Grackaroni wrote: I want those townie points but I don't know why. This is one post that bugs me. To explain why: Grack early on made this post: On September 24 2014 07:40 Grackaroni wrote: I guess that narrows CR/VE out of the lynch pool for today. To which Hapa responded: On September 24 2014 07:42 Hapahauli wrote: ##Vote Grakaroni I am not a fan of how you so offhandedly dismissed VE from the lynch pool. Later on: On September 24 2014 10:40 Grackaroni wrote: I was actually leaning more townie on Hapa. I liked his explanation for voting me. Shortly after: On September 24 2014 11:37 Hapahauli wrote: I really don't like geript. Town points for the person who tells everyone why. ##Vote Geript But in response, Grack posts: On September 24 2014 11:43 Grackaroni wrote: I want those townie points but I don't know why. I feel like Grack could at least come up with a reason for why if he's townreading Hapa for Hapa's push on Grack when I did almost the same thing Grack did. | ||
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I'm pretty sure that he wanted to keep Kush and Grack as potential lynchbait. And he wanted to buddy Damdred and MM1. It sounds odd but I think if Oats were town VE would've argued with anybody townreading him. The problem though is that he treats Vayne similarly. Oats generally isn't that hard to push a mislynch on in my experience. I really kinda think it's just Oats now. | ||
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MM1 was saying that my pressure on him to claim 3P was "you 3p?" It was a bit more than that but I get his response. We aren't looking specifically for 3P because we don't need to find 3P to win. We just need to find and kill the last mafia and we win. All 3P are survivors so they can win with us. Make sense? | ||
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On September 29 2014 05:57 Grackaroni wrote: I really haven't seen any decent reasoning for me being mafia. Everyone is complaining about me being useless but I think I've been objectively more useful than most players this game. I didn't write a case day1, but I did contribute to VE getting lynched. I suggested to Prom that VE was the reasonable lynch to consolidate on to before Prom started telling people to vote VE and before Hapa came back to get more votes on VE. If it looked like someone I didn't want to be lynched was going to be lynched and I had been needed to help move the lynch I would have done it. Sure I posted less than DP, and all DP did day1 was try to make a last minute switch off of mafia and scumread hapa. I posted less than Geript and Geript was apprehensive about consolidating on to VE because he wanted to look for the 2 mafia pair. Basically I'm content with what I've done this game and the amount of effort I've put in. If people want to call me scummy without good reasoning or if the DP/Geript/Yamato/Prom group wants to circle jerk each other and call me useless so be it. You're either pretty far away from the reality of this game or you're mafia trying to save face. You voted for VE. Good for you so did most everyone else. Prome's supporting Hapa's lynch was based on a townread on Hapa and not on what you said. I in no way want to setup a circle jerk. The only person of the 4 who I'm pretty sure is town is Prome. DP and Yam have done next to nothing today either. Like honestly, I'm really frustrated with the hosts cutting the day short and most everyone sitting on their hands today when we could and should be looking for the last mafia. | ||
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On September 29 2014 05:59 Grackaroni wrote: Geript if you had read 2 pages of my filter you would understand why your point is nonsense I did. I read the whole exchange quite thoroughly. I don't think it's nonsense at all. I'm not sure if it's conclusive but it's exceptionally odd. | ||
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On September 24 2014 07:42 Hapahauli wrote: ##Vote Grakaroni I am not a fan of how you so offhandedly dismissed VE from the lynch pool. On September 24 2014 10:40 Grackaroni wrote: I was actually leaning more townie on Hapa. I liked his explanation for voting me. Do you have a different explanation for Hapa voting you? | ||
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On September 29 2014 06:24 Promethelax wrote: I spent about an hour on irc with Yamato yesterday. I'm relatively sure he isn't scum. Assuming that 3p can win with town (which is what the OP says) I don't care about catching them. Assuming the host hasn't lied to us, which is an unfortunately unfounded assumption based on hosting thus far, this game is over. Dear 3p: you can win with town. All you have to do is try to kill scum. Use your murder on scummy people and we'll win together. Geript: please explain your town read on MM1. If you die I don't want to have to rely on your word. Grack: I cheerlead the VE lynch based on my town read of Hapa and his excellent VE case. Your behaviour had nothing to do with it. DP: why do you think grack is town? Why do you think MM1 is town? Why do you think oats is town? My read on MM1. Over night around the first 24 hours of the game after I had stopped posting, MM1 made a series of posts in the QT that (when I checked the QT after catching up) perfectly reflected where I was at. I was suspicious of Hapa and I was suspicious of VE. That's where he was. He also made a few interesting points about CR (he's doesn't seem very happy and he should be exceptionally happy if he's town) and VE (VE hasn't had a history of reading him well when VE is town). Also, I'm 90% sure that he would've claimed 3P when I pushed him to if he were mafia. He hasn't posted a lot in thread or in QT. It's not a permanent town read and there are a variety of aspects in which it could be wrong. | ||
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On September 29 2014 06:24 Grackaroni wrote: Its wrong because I never liked Hapa's reasoning for voting for me which really should be 100% clear from my post that I just quoted. I liked Hapa's explanation for why he had voted me, which was that he voted me just because he was trying to stir something up and not because he thought my post was scummy. So you got a townread on him because he said, "I just wanted to throw my vote around?" Like that's a really bullshit read. | ||
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On September 29 2014 07:42 Promethelax wrote: Did no one else show up for deadline? Not even the hosts....it sure is lonely here. I did. I'm just waiting for the day post. I've done this before. I was taking a nap and slept through my alarm. Thankfully my awesome cohosts did everything for me after 15-30 minutes. | ||
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On September 30 2014 01:16 Grackaroni wrote: It was town favored but I think Abuse still could have won after the 2 mafia lynched only needing 3 mislynches VA /me/Yamato I don't think he realistically doesn't get lynched or die. He has to kill Oats, Kill DP, kill Prome and then it's lylo. Plus he has to avoid DP making the world go boom to make the game go faster. | ||
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