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Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
September 26 2014 07:42 GMT
#1261
I just sent in my action.

You guys better not lose!
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 26 2014 07:45 GMT
#1262
Updated night post!


Night 1

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Right before VisceraEyes' (Nio Hashiri) death, he(she) implanted a curse onto Hapahauli - and dragged Hapahauli into the pits of hell with him upon his departure from earth.

VisceraEyes the Nio Hashiri - Mafia Bonder has been lynched!
Hapahauli the Suzu Shutou - Cop was killed by black magic!

Reminder to send in all night actions 1 hour before the deadline.
Day 2 starts in:

It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
September 26 2014 07:57 GMT
#1263
Ok in my defense, I think that me doing jack shit in the context of that day was much more of a townie trait.
On September 26 2014 03:20 Grackaroni wrote:
Prom you want to weigh in at all on VE? I think he's probably the most realistic lynch at this point.

I was well aware that VE was most likely the person that was going to get lynched, if I was mafia I would have made a case on somebody and tried to save VE because he's probably the solo member. Pretty much every time I play scum I get caught for hard defending my scum buddy.
Also Oats I left questions for you. I tried to talk to you before that too and you wouldn't. I wasn't about to hard push you because I'm not confident in my read on you unless you talk to me, but I did think you were likely to be scum from POE.
On September 26 2014 02:39 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 02:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 26 2014 01:46 Grackaroni wrote:
On September 26 2014 01:26 Damdred wrote:
On September 26 2014 01:06 Grackaroni wrote:
On September 26 2014 01:00 kushm4sta wrote:
halp i only have like 5 to 10 min to spend on this game right now and then not again until after eod. i dont know who to vote

Read Oats filter fast and tell me what you think


What do you think grack

I think I still want to lynch Oats

Dude I have seen absolutely NOTHING on why I'm supposed to be scum. If you can't even make anything up, you can't fucking say you want to lynch me.
It's incredibly irresponsible as town and downright lazy as scum.
Fuck the way you played this game. You can play way better than this.

How confident are in your reads?. First you made a push on Geript//DP and DP said it was the worst case you had ever written and you said "possibly". Then you got nervous about pushing DP because Damdred agreed with you, but you aren't even scum reading Damdred?

Why is Geript scum exactly? Because he didn't talk about CR at the start of the game? He's been talking non-stop since then. Because he's flip-flopping on Hapa? A lot of people seem to be flip flopping on Hapa.

I haven't actually looked at Prom at all so I'll look into that.

I'd still like to know why you are scum reading Geript. all the reasons you've given have just been what Hapa said at the start of the game and theres no way a townie is still holding on to those reasons for a scum read right now.
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1946 Posts
September 26 2014 09:06 GMT
#1264
On September 26 2014 12:56 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 12:23 VayneAuthority wrote:
abuse is confirmed town if CR isnt mafia*

Correct. I'd take his opinions with a grain of salt still considering his experience.


what the fuck is this, I don't even.
Because inexperienced people cannot think strategically and are blind to everything going on in the game?
Or should I take this as your godly permission to lurk from now on?

Pretty obvious what we should do in case CR flips blue.
As previously stated - Lynch/check one person per pair until we hit jackpot. considering the fact that scum will also be shooting people at the next night, we should have our answer in a day or so and you don't need much of a brain to figure this out.

I don't believe you.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
September 26 2014 09:09 GMT
#1265
On September 26 2014 18:06 abuse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 12:56 geript wrote:
On September 26 2014 12:23 VayneAuthority wrote:
abuse is confirmed town if CR isnt mafia*

Correct. I'd take his opinions with a grain of salt still considering his experience.


what the fuck is this, I don't even.
Because inexperienced people cannot think strategically and are blind to everything going on in the game?
Or should I take this as your godly permission to lurk from now on?

Pretty obvious what we should do in case CR flips blue.
As previously stated - Lynch/check one person per pair until we hit jackpot. considering the fact that scum will also be shooting people at the next night, we should have our answer in a day or so and you don't need much of a brain to figure this out.



That is basically it. There is a fuckload or elitism on this site. Kind of justified because Many of the players here are objectively very skilled. But it also means it takes a while to earn the respect of the vets.

Yes when I first started it was the same and I hated it. And yes I eventually became an elitist my self.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
September 26 2014 09:11 GMT
#1266
Anyway I just got back, I am fucking tired but I will be around while watching worlds.

Further I need to re-read how the VE lynch went down, but Yam and prome are both very likely town. So that is good.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1946 Posts
September 26 2014 09:41 GMT
#1267
On September 26 2014 18:09 DarthPunk wrote:
That is basically it. There is a fuckload or elitism on this site. Kind of justified because Many of the players here are objectively very skilled. But it also means it takes a while to earn the respect of the vets.


Seems counter-productive if you want more people in your community.
I don't believe you.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
September 26 2014 09:45 GMT
#1268
On September 26 2014 18:41 abuse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 18:09 DarthPunk wrote:
That is basically it. There is a fuckload or elitism on this site. Kind of justified because Many of the players here are objectively very skilled. But it also means it takes a while to earn the respect of the vets.


Seems counter-productive if you want more people in your community.


it wasn't a conscious choice. It's just how the culture is here and I doubt it will change much, if at all.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
September 26 2014 10:05 GMT
#1269
On September 26 2014 18:41 abuse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 18:09 DarthPunk wrote:
That is basically it. There is a fuckload or elitism on this site. Kind of justified because Many of the players here are objectively very skilled. But it also means it takes a while to earn the respect of the vets.


Seems counter-productive if you want more people in your community.


If you prove worth listening to people will listen to you, that is how it works in everything. This site has a tone of talent when it comes to mafia and so we often ignore newer payers who are less talented. That isn't the best way to be I agree but it is how we are. If you want us to listin to you say something worth listening to instead of bitching about how we view you.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
September 26 2014 10:24 GMT
#1270
On September 26 2014 16:42 Chairman Ray wrote:
I just sent in my action.

You guys better not lose!


Who can tell me why this proves that CR is not the defender?
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
September 26 2014 10:30 GMT
#1271
On September 26 2014 19:24 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 16:42 Chairman Ray wrote:
I just sent in my action.

You guys better not lose!


Who can tell me why this proves that CR is not the defender?


As a defender, you are able to use your body to block any kill attempts that isn't from third party. You will be notified who is about to die (from all factions) and you can choose to save the person and die, but change your wincon to town's, and negate your wincon to survive till the end.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
September 26 2014 10:32 GMT
#1272
Yeah that's what the OP says. My role PM said something completely different, which is why I pmed the host to clarify it.

It hasn't been updated in the OP yet, but here's the note from the host:

On September 24 2014 08:48 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 08:41 VayneAuthority wrote:
the role PM is barely in english so I wouldnt mind the host clarifying it.

From my interpretation, the people about to die to non 3rd party hits are sent to CR and then he can choose whether or not he wants to save them or something. the last 2 phrases are borderline gibberish


Due to concerns over miscommunication, the defender role (if it exists) must PM the hosts which faction he wants to save at night. If he blocks a kill and die as a result, his 3rd party wincon will change to a town wincon, regardless of who he saves.

DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
September 26 2014 10:33 GMT
#1273
nice catch.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
September 26 2014 10:41 GMT
#1274
On September 26 2014 19:24 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 16:42 Chairman Ray wrote:
I just sent in my action.

You guys better not lose!


Who can tell me why this proves that CR is not the defender?


Or...his role could be broken as shit.

CR: who are you saving from the night kill?
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
September 26 2014 10:41 GMT
#1275
I saved town.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
September 26 2014 10:43 GMT
#1276
What a shitty broken role. Assuming what you said is true.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
September 26 2014 10:46 GMT
#1277
On September 26 2014 19:43 Promethelax wrote:
What a shitty broken role. Assuming what you said is true.


#Themegameproblems
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 26 2014 13:09 GMT
#1278
On September 26 2014 19:05 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 18:41 abuse wrote:
On September 26 2014 18:09 DarthPunk wrote:
That is basically it. There is a fuckload or elitism on this site. Kind of justified because Many of the players here are objectively very skilled. But it also means it takes a while to earn the respect of the vets.


Seems counter-productive if you want more people in your community.


If you prove worth listening to people will listen to you, that is how it works in everything. This site has a tone of talent when it comes to mafia and so we often ignore newer payers who are less talented. That isn't the best way to be I agree but it is how we are. If you want us to listin to you say something worth listening to instead of bitching about how we view you.

Totally sidetracking from the game, Marv smurfed in a mayor election 25 player game and managed to get elected. I don't think it's elitism, it's just that you can't get good until you play a lotta games.

Grace, I'm gonna answer those questions when I have more time.
No gg, No skill.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 26 2014 14:58 GMT
#1279
On September 26 2014 19:05 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 18:41 abuse wrote:
On September 26 2014 18:09 DarthPunk wrote:
That is basically it. There is a fuckload or elitism on this site. Kind of justified because Many of the players here are objectively very skilled. But it also means it takes a while to earn the respect of the vets.


Seems counter-productive if you want more people in your community.


If you prove worth listening to people will listen to you, that is how it works in everything. This site has a tone of talent when it comes to mafia and so we often ignore newer payers who are less talented. That isn't the best way to be I agree but it is how we are. If you want us to listin to you say something worth listening to instead of bitching about how we view you.

Fwiw, it was more so that I didn't really think that highly of the reads abuse has given so far and I didn't want people taking his word as gospel if he got confirmed. You know how confirmed town status can be sometimes. Didn't really have anything to do with not being a vet; just not having reads that impressed me.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
September 26 2014 16:09 GMT
#1280
I wouldn't take it personally. Vets also come out looking more skilled than new players because they've played so many games with each other that they're much more familiar with a particular player's town/scum play.
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