sorry been busy with work but plenty of capable town here at any rate. Two most interesting things with this lynch for me is oats voting for VE last second with no explanation and grack voting right around dead middle of the voting pack on the VE wagon. When I played scum with him he liked to be on the correct wagons as early as possible to garner cred. Combine that with the fact that kush's vote is on something random.

I think the double scum pair is between oats/damdred and grack/kush, but open to other opinions. We need to go through and starting lynching 1 person from each pair pretty much.

Damdred

15669 Posts

September 25 2014 23:06 GMT

#1244

I dislike vaynes plan we should just scum hunt normally and we have a big to help us some

MysteryMeat1

United States3292 Posts

September 25 2014 23:09 GMT

#1245

the great thing is, if CR dies during the night then we have an auto town in abuse

yamato77

11589 Posts

September 25 2014 23:26 GMT

#1246

Hm.

Hm.

Hm.

There is a way to figure out alignments based on CR's claim and responses. I shall go through it shortly.

geript

10024 Posts

September 25 2014 23:35 GMT

#1247

On September 26 2014 08:06 Damdred wrote:
I dislike vaynes plan we should just scum hunt normally and we have a big to help us some

It's a really fucking great plan assuming the CR issue resolves itself, it's a huge boon. Like assuming CR dies tonight and flips 3P, then any lynch is a perfect cop check on the partner.

yamato77

11589 Posts

September 25 2014 23:49 GMT

#1248

Now, CR claiming third party means 1 of two things (assuming he's not just an asshole townie, which would be absurd):

1. He's actually 3P. Mafia would have no reason not to believe him, and probably want him dead. All iterations of 3P are anti-mafia in some way.

2. He's mafia fakeclaiming. Only the real 3P would know, and would probably not care unless they were defender with the plan to become town (the best play for the defender in this setup). Other two roles would probably just leave him alive so that people don't actively hunt them.

Now, what did VE do?

On September 25 2014 01:23 VisceraEyes wrote:

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^ my thoughts. Like, I wouldn't be opposed strongly to a CR lynch as he's been pretty much absent in our QT. We had a little back and forth last night about MM1 but from him it was just a couple of one-liners (MM1 and I are friend irl, etc etc) and then he went to bed or whatever.

But yeah, I think we have a good line scum in this game so I'd like to try and lynch scum rather than third party.

Kinda waffly, but ultimately strays away from the idea. Probably because at this time VE believed his image was good and that Hapa looked bad enough maybe to mislynch, although that backfired.

On September 26 2014 06:25 VisceraEyes wrote:

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This is false. I read the thread, but I'm getting pissed about CR. He's literally not doing anything in the thread OR the QT. I was suspicious of him when he made the claim and now I'm REALLY suspicious. It's not a shit vote, maybe you can tell me why CR is town/3p instead of mafia?

Like I have a better read on CR than anyone because I'm sharing a QT with him. And I'm saying I think he's mafia instead of 3p.

Once Hapa came back and nailed VE to a wall, he comes out with this. Now, this would be in line with CR being ACTUAL 3P, I believe, because there's no reason for VE to come back and finger his teammate if he believed he had any chance of living. Based on the fact that he continued to post for some time afterward, I don't think this was a "fuck you town, WIFOM Bomb" courtesy of Mr. Eyes.

Sooo yeah, CR is probably 3P. Hopefully he's actually defender and makes the correct play.

As for others, people like Vayne that did nothing but push CR all day are >rand to be mafia.

Damdred

15669 Posts

September 26 2014 00:00 GMT

#1249

If I was the vigilante I would shoot vayne probably.

The plan looks good on the surface but it leads to a larger body count and if we just lynch down some form of list the mafia can just kill the other person in the night. Tommorow if big hits town and Cr does his duty then we have a confirmed town and can go from their.

Then we actually scum hunt not some stupid lynch into y group because I have a town read on x

yamato77

11589 Posts

September 26 2014 00:15 GMT

#1250

honestly it's either vayne - dp or kush - grack

Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

September 26 2014 00:37 GMT

#1251

On September 26 2014 07:57 VayneAuthority wrote:
sorry been busy with work but plenty of capable town here at any rate. Two most interesting things with this lynch for me is oats voting for VE last second with no explanation and grack voting right around dead middle of the voting pack on the VE wagon. When I played scum with him he liked to be on the correct wagons as early as possible to garner cred. Combine that with the fact that kush's vote is on something random.

I think the double scum pair is between oats/damdred and grack/kush, but open to other opinions. We need to go through and starting lynching 1 person from each pair pretty much.

Why is my vote interesting?

geript

10024 Posts

September 26 2014 02:51 GMT

#1252

Wow it's really slow. But I guess that makes sense since we're really just waiting to see what happens with CR

Damdred

15669 Posts

September 26 2014 02:59 GMT

#1253

Well I'm here if you want to talk heript

geript

10024 Posts

September 26 2014 03:19 GMT

#1254

Well I'm playing cube currently and honestly I have no clue where to look. Abuse is confirmed town if CR is mafia. Otherwise he's potential mafia but low likelihood. I think it's almost a numbers game. I think Prome/Yam are close to confirmed town with a few asterisks.

VayneAuthority

United States8983 Posts

September 26 2014 03:23 GMT

#1255

abuse is confirmed town if CR isnt mafia*

geript

10024 Posts

September 26 2014 03:56 GMT

#1256

On September 26 2014 12:23 VayneAuthority wrote:
abuse is confirmed town if CR isnt mafia*

Correct. I'd take his opinions with a grain of salt still considering his experience.

geript

10024 Posts

September 26 2014 03:57 GMT

#1257

Correction. Abuse is confirmed town if CR isn't mafia and isn't confirmed town if CR is mafia. Got that mixed up.

geript

10024 Posts

September 26 2014 05:53 GMT

#1258

So in the scenario that CR is mafia (or doesn't martyr tonight), all bets are kinda off. In this regard, if CR dies tonight then I think that it's best that any town KP isn't used tonight and the vigilante outs at the start of D2 (so if CR doesn't flip, don't claim). If you feel strongly you can just shoot CR, but I don't think that really does much for us unless he's the arsonist or mafia. In case someone claims VT not near the start of the day (and CR martyrs tonight) then we 100% lynch their partner.

However, assuming CR flips blue tonight we have the following scenario:
ChairmanRay // VisceraEyes
Hapahauli // Abuse
VayneAuthority // DarthPunk
Grackaroni // Kushm4sta
Geript // MysteryMeat1
Oatsmaster // Damdred
Promethelax // yamato77

I think I'd consider tracking/cop checking Grack/Kush, then Vayne/DP, then Oats/Damdred. If you're a cop, it's probably worth checking both people in a pair. Trackers are kinda random anyways but I think I'd look at Grack first. I think Prome and DP had a townread on Kush and I know I had a townread on Grack, but realistically they've done nothing.

Random setup speculation. If CR is mafia, then I'll bet that the lone mafia is the GF so there's little point in the cop ever outing. Tracker would still be useful though.
If CR is martyr, then I'm guessing that we don't have a vigilante. My guess is the setup for mafia would be bonder/gf/goon. And for town I'd guess tracker/martyr or maybe cop/martyr.

Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

September 26 2014 07:28 GMT

#1259

DP soft confirming VA as town could be a thing.
Although he did that before the huge push on VE so it could just be town/town.

Grack and kush are the second most likely cause I think mm is town.
Prome is out of the picture.
Grack did jack shit all day except askk people timdly if they want to lynch me. kush didnt want to lynch VE. Looked really like he didnt want to kill him.

Argh but that goes against his meta of being right.

Bleehhhh.

The main problem I have is I think Grack/geript/yamato/dp are somewhat scummy.

AND NONE OF THEM ARE IN THE SAME TEAM.

Actually now that I think about it, Hapa couldve bussed VE.