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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
September 24 2014 23:01 GMT
#781
Oh LOL.

WP Damdred. WP.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 24 2014 23:01 GMT
#782
Like just fucked up my phone spazed out when iw as trying to post two places i already messaged host, was my fault
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 24 2014 23:02 GMT
#783
roflroflrofl
Writer@WriterYamato
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 24 2014 23:03 GMT
#784
like really embarassed right now , but if anyoen was wondering what happened posted day 1 of yamatos game in wrong thread. i'm a newb
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 24 2014 23:05 GMT
#785
Trying to get back on track, I was working up a vengence against you Hapa about my filter being forgettable. It is really hard to get a lot of good thing going when the majority of the people you find scummy are missing when you are active.

I really want DP to show up and Geript to explain things a bit better. Cause it botehrs me when people say that stuff
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 24 2014 23:05 GMT
#786
it's ok damdred

you are good cohost.

:D
Writer@WriterYamato
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
September 24 2014 23:15 GMT
#787
I like Hapa a lot more after that post
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
September 24 2014 23:15 GMT
#788
MysteryMeat:

I am always worried about going after lynchbait. But his play is pretty classic mafia right now...

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/467155-devils-riddle-mafia?user=MysteryMeat1

...because this guy "doesn't like" everything he sees in the thread:
On September 24 2014 11:44 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
I actually dont like cr's play atm either. Hes roled mafia every game on tl, and complains everytime that he isnt town. I feel like he would be happier to play.


Doesn't like CR's play

On September 24 2014 11:57 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 11:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
On September 24 2014 11:50 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Can i have one?

I'll give you a Townie Brownie if you make a mafia case on Kush before he even enters the thread.


If i had to make a case, it would be town kush would have posted already? I dont think ive been in a game where kush was mafia iirc


Nor Kush's lack of posting...

On September 25 2014 03:38 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
I don't really like VE, this game. Maybe his reads on me have changed since he found out my IRL identity, but i don't think he calls me town this early. My case on kush wasn't even serious when i posted it, and yet somehow i gained massive town points for it?


...nor VE...

On September 25 2014 03:45 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
I don't really like Hap, and i have no clue on DP. This is the first time i've ever played a game and probably the first time ive heard of him on TL


...nor myself...

It seems like he just finds things "not to like", as opposed to actually trying to figure out the game. His filter is devoid of actual analysis beyond these "do not like" quips at random posts and players.

Geript:

I think I got too taken in by his performance last night. His play is lacking... madness.

Geript is a player notorious for getting into insane arguments, tunnels, and confirmation bias with his targets. In this game, he is surprisingly... reasonable? But not in a good way. Take how his read evolves on me last night:

On September 24 2014 14:58 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 07:59 Hapahauli wrote:
On September 24 2014 07:53 Grackaroni wrote:
On September 24 2014 07:42 Hapahauli wrote:
##Vote Grakaroni

I am not a fan of how you so offhandedly dismissed VE from the lynch pool.

I can understand disagreeing with me but I don't quite understand why this is scummy? Are you implying that I was trying to protect a scum VE before he even posted?


Nah just throwing my vote around 'cause why not.

What you said makes sense. I disagree, but makes sense.

##Unvote

On September 24 2014 07:53 VayneAuthority wrote:
CR is basically a mafia medic why arent we lynching him again? there hasnt been an easier d1 lynch in ages. im fine with you correctly pointing out grack's weird dismissal of VE but not with your vote.


I'd much rather lynch mafia than a 3rd party. Also, how is he a mafia medic? If defender saves someone, they win with town, apparently regardless of the alignment of the saved person.

This post feels a bit off to me. I don't think I've seen Hapa pressure someone for a reasonable play before then withdraw pressure so quickly. Idk, I just feel like as town he'd push grak a bit more to get a better read or until something more interesting came up.


Here, my post is "off".

On September 24 2014 15:14 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 12:19 yamato77 wrote:
On September 24 2014 11:42 geript wrote:
Nm I lied. I have a QT. Just missed it.

lol

this is why hapa

Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 12:33 Hapahauli wrote:
That too.

This specifically bugs me. I think town Hapa would point out that, regardless of alignment, I would get a QT. Hapa lumping that in the scum pile makes me think he's not actually concerned with thinking about the game critically.


My post here bugs geript...

On September 24 2014 15:28 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 13:27 Hapahauli wrote:
Honestly DP, you don't even have to understand my case beyond what Damdred said:

On September 24 2014 13:04 Grackaroni wrote:
On September 24 2014 12:51 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 24 2014 12:04 Grackaroni wrote:
I can get behind a Geript lynch

##Vote: Geript


Why?
What is so convincing about hapa's case on geript that makes you able to get behind a lynch on him?

Geript's posts just feel really awkward to me so I guess I like Hapa's narrative. Not realizing he has a qt doesn't really help his case.


Think about how awkard geript's posts sound in the context of the thread. There is a clear conversation topic that everyone is discussing (CR's claim), then he enters the thread and posts completely useless crap, then a summary post of pairings.

On September 24 2014 13:23 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 24 2014 13:22 Hapahauli wrote:
On September 24 2014 13:14 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 24 2014 13:12 Hapahauli wrote:
On September 24 2014 13:10 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 24 2014 13:08 Hapahauli wrote:
On September 24 2014 13:07 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 24 2014 13:03 Hapahauli wrote:
[quote]

Ok.

Given that Yamato and I have an extensive history, why should I feel remotely threatened by something he does all the time? There are things not worth caring about. For some reason, you think my meta is that I"m reactionary to every time my name is mentioned.

Which is far from the truth.



No i think your meta is to try and figure out why people do/say stuff and there is a distinct lack of that. I also think your geript case looks and feels contrived, none of your stated explanations for scum!geript are that convincing and yet you are confident in your read for a reason I can't fathom.



For someone who hates bad meta cases, you are really bad at meta.


Or I am amazing and you are scum :D


Which do you think is more likely?


I think you are scum.


This is going nowhere.

Let me know when you're ready to do productive things. Like lynching geript.


I'm being productive. Why don't you try and convince me of geript being scum if you are so certain?



See: above

I generally don't care to argue with the one person in every one of my town games that always finds me scummy on day 1. It's a chore, and a waste of my time given that everyone else will read me as town.

This post makes me really want to lynch the fuck out of Hapa. In my experience as mafia, it's far easier to create a believable narrative than it is to create a believable case. The fact that Hapa is pushing a narrative and using that specific quote as evidence feels exceptionally off. It's very weird of Hapa to let his "stonecold lock mafia read" be described as something as low as a "narrative." Maybe that's just semantics, but that's really odd.


This post makes geript want to "lynch the fuck out of " me.

So here the stage is set for a CLASSIC geript OMGUS tunnel. I would expect him to go off the rails here like in so many of his other games I have spectated/hosted recently.

Yet... this doesn't happen.

On September 24 2014 15:31 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 13:44 yamato77 wrote:
On September 24 2014 13:41 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 24 2014 13:40 yamato77 wrote:
DP tryharding is adorable.


What you think of hapa yamato?

Give reasons.

Hapa likes his early game tunnels.

Yes he does.

Boooh. Idk. I'll give Hapa more time. Still not a happy panda.


Huhwat.

On September 24 2014 15:48 geript wrote:
Either way Hapa, what did you want to know. Right now I'm kinda in the mood to check Grack, you, DP and Yam off of the lynch list and look at other people. That actually narrows down the field pretty heavily. I won't lie and say I'm not half tempted to lynch the fuck out of Abuse to see if he flips red though.


...wait didn't one of my posts make you want to lynch the fuck out of me?

The only thing that gives me some pause on Geript is this:
On September 24 2014 16:02 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 15:57 DarthPunk wrote:
Wait geript. How did you get from this post:
On September 24 2014 15:28 geript wrote:
On September 24 2014 13:27 Hapahauli wrote:
Honestly DP, you don't even have to understand my case beyond what Damdred said:

On September 24 2014 13:04 Grackaroni wrote:
On September 24 2014 12:51 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 24 2014 12:04 Grackaroni wrote:
I can get behind a Geript lynch

##Vote: Geript


Why?
What is so convincing about hapa's case on geript that makes you able to get behind a lynch on him?

Geript's posts just feel really awkward to me so I guess I like Hapa's narrative. Not realizing he has a qt doesn't really help his case.


Think about how awkard geript's posts sound in the context of the thread. There is a clear conversation topic that everyone is discussing (CR's claim), then he enters the thread and posts completely useless crap, then a summary post of pairings.

On September 24 2014 13:23 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 24 2014 13:22 Hapahauli wrote:
On September 24 2014 13:14 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 24 2014 13:12 Hapahauli wrote:
On September 24 2014 13:10 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 24 2014 13:08 Hapahauli wrote:
[quote]

For someone who hates bad meta cases, you are really bad at meta.


Or I am amazing and you are scum :D


Which do you think is more likely?


I think you are scum.


This is going nowhere.

Let me know when you're ready to do productive things. Like lynching geript.


I'm being productive. Why don't you try and convince me of geript being scum if you are so certain?



See: above

I generally don't care to argue with the one person in every one of my town games that always finds me scummy on day 1. It's a chore, and a waste of my time given that everyone else will read me as town.

This post makes me really want to lynch the fuck out of Hapa. In my experience as mafia, it's far easier to create a believable narrative than it is to create a believable case. The fact that Hapa is pushing a narrative and using that specific quote as evidence feels exceptionally off. It's very weird of Hapa to let his "stonecold lock mafia read" be described as something as low as a "narrative." Maybe that's just semantics, but that's really odd.



On September 24 2014 15:48 geript wrote:
Either way Hapa, what did you want to know. Right now I'm kinda in the mood to check Grack, you, DP and Yam off of the lynch list and look at other people. That actually narrows down the field pretty heavily. I won't lie and say I'm not half tempted to lynch the fuck out of Abuse to see if he flips red though.


To this post. What are the reasoning/ thoughts that changed your mind?

To some extent it's the reminder from Yam, that Hapa does like his early game tunnels. To some extent it's just thinking that I'll be able to read Hapa more objectively when he's not tunneling me. To some extent it's Hapa's direction after tunneling me. I think he's kinda townreading you and yam; which makes him look at VE more. But that's a bit concerning now that I think about it because of the CR claim. This isn't making me think of him more positively which is yet another reason why I want to lynch the AFK Abuse. But I don't tend to have a good history of reading people correctly when they're tunneled on me unless it's already pretty mid-late game.


Which I find a plausible explanation for why he's so calm about his read on me, and treating me as if I'm not lynch-able today. Not sure how likely it is, but the plausibility is the reason that I have my vote on VE right now.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 24 2014 23:15 GMT
#789
Because it's a good case.
Writer@WriterYamato
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 24 2014 23:16 GMT
#790
Hapa, how in the fuck do you have a townread on Abuse. I don't see any player even Marv having any realistic sensible read on Abuse. You've quite literally been shield him all fucking game long. Explain how in the fuck he's town or we definitely are lynching you.
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 24 2014 23:17 GMT
#791
I am giving a final warning to everyone: I will modkill ANY edits from now on, regardless of in thread or in the QT. Please leave all your reasons till post game.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
September 24 2014 23:17 GMT
#792
On September 25 2014 08:16 geript wrote:
Hapa, how in the fuck do you have a townread on Abuse. I don't see any player even Marv having any realistic sensible read on Abuse. You've quite literally been shield him all fucking game long. Explain how in the fuck he's town or we definitely are lynching you.


I can elaborate. But first you need to answer how the fuck you have a town-read on MM1
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 24 2014 23:19 GMT
#793
Because they are mafia together Hapa
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
September 24 2014 23:20 GMT
#794
Because when you accuse me of "sheilding" someone desipte doing the exact same damn thing for worse reasons a few pages ago, that doesn't make you look good.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
September 24 2014 23:20 GMT
#795
so hapa, your case on mm1 is
he uses "i dont like" to call things scummy?
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 24 2014 23:21 GMT
#796
Hapa how many games have you played with MM?
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 24 2014 23:22 GMT
#797
lol if hapa already nailed the scum team

just lol
Writer@WriterYamato
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
September 24 2014 23:22 GMT
#798
Posting this:
On September 25 2014 03:26 geript wrote:
...

Prome feels towny but his initial post made me want to lynch him. MM1 looks slightly better from what he's posted in QT but not enough that I'm sold he's town yet. Abuse's entry make me happy to lynch him.
...


Right before this:
On September 25 2014 08:16 geript wrote:
Hapa, how in the fuck do you have a townread on Abuse. I don't see any player even Marv having any realistic sensible read on Abuse. You've quite literally been shield him all fucking game long. Explain how in the fuck he's town or we definitely are lynching you.


...is a no no.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
September 24 2014 23:24 GMT
#799
On September 25 2014 03:26 geript wrote:
...

Prome feels towny but his initial post made me want to lynch him. MM1 looks slightly better from what he's posted in QT but not enough that I'm sold he's town yet. Abuse's entry make me happy to lynch him.
...

I find posts like this really townie actually, because he is rapid fire giving off lots of scumhunting ideas that all make sense. Maybe he hasn't explained them but I'm sure he could.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
September 24 2014 23:24 GMT
#800
@hapa

I later retracted my statement on CR, and even though i may not like his play i do believe he is 3rd party.

If you read the thread instead of filter diving you can see that VE asked for a case on Kush and i decided to humor him. You can even see that i admitted to never playing a game with kush as mafia.
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
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