Of course he can. But I don't find it a likely explanation.

Like the guy posts early in in this thread that he always reads me as mafia early. You'd think he'd be more mindful of this, but instead he's tunneling me as if he's 100% sure that he's right THIS TIME. How can someone have that confidence, much less a player like VE known for not having much thereof?

Also, take a look at the way VE pushes me. He seems more interested in calling me mafia and me "flailing" than trying to figure out my alignment.

Damdred

15669 Posts

September 24 2014 22:24 GMT

#762

Ok hapa who do you think is the most scummy today so far and why besides ve? (I also take offense to being called a low poster this game when I have a decent sized filter with no filler from pregame!)

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

September 24 2014 22:27 GMT

#763

kill one of these dudes
1. MysteryMeat1
2.Oatsmaster
3.Chairman Ray
11.Promethelax
14.VayneAuthority

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

September 24 2014 22:29 GMT

#764

trying to kill anyone else d1 is fucktarded and not happening

geript

10024 Posts

September 24 2014 22:32 GMT

#765

On September 25 2014 07:12 Damdred wrote:
so Geript where does this leave you on mafia now?

I'm still slightly more tempted to lynch you/oats. Secondary is maybe Hapa/Abuse. I really want to see Abuse talk more honestly; I'm considering if we lynch VE and he flips town just flat out lynching abuse if he doesn't step his game up as a precursor to Hapa. But if VE flips Mafia then we likely tell CR to martyr or else he gets autolynched. CR doing fuck all this game doesn't make me feel any better about this game.

This game is kinda interesting. Like it's kinda a hydra game, except that you don't know for sure that your other half is town. But if one person flips mafia, then unless the other partner is super town then I think it becomes really quite obvious to flip the other half.

geript

10024 Posts

September 24 2014 22:32 GMT

#766

On September 25 2014 07:27 kushm4sta wrote:
kill one of these dudes
1. MysteryMeat1
2.Oatsmaster
3.Chairman Ray
11.Promethelax
14.VayneAuthority

Why these people?

Damdred

15669 Posts

September 24 2014 22:33 GMT

#767

I still don't understand why myself and Oats are the first one you lynch into? What have we done to deserve that and make us look more scummy than any other group?

yamato77

11589 Posts

September 24 2014 22:43 GMT

#768

Man, Hapa, you know how to buddy me.

I really hope you're town.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

September 24 2014 22:45 GMT

#769

Anyone can see that my play has changed dramatically over the period of time between when those games you quoted were played and now.

But that's MUCH better Hapa. Much.

##Unvote

Like your posts yesterday calling me mafia didn't say anything like that. Yamato's posts on the matter had no detail and because I disagree that my townplay lacks confidence I took it as him just seeing something that isn't there. But you're right, my play HAS changed that much I guess. Anyway I'm town, and I'm willing to not lynch you today based on that case. It's far more put together and detailed than I was expecting given you responses last night.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

September 24 2014 22:49 GMT

#770

Jesus I guess if I'm that scummy then where I'd look next are people who have townreads on me in spite of how I'm playing. Like, if I REALLY don't look town then people who are right about me might have too much information or something.

Fuck Hapa, couldn't you have just been scum?

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

September 24 2014 22:51 GMT

#771

Like I don't really think it's DP - he was able to follow my thought process on Hapa BEFORE I came and explained it, so I think probably DP town...maybe not though. This changes things.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

September 24 2014 22:54 GMT

#772

And frankly it COULD still be Hapa - but yeah I'm gonna pass on lynching him today. That case on me exhibits an amount of effort I'd like to see going forward...just, obviously, aimed at actual mafia.

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

September 24 2014 22:57 GMT

#773

On September 25 2014 07:32 geript wrote:

Show nested quote +

Why these people?

activity

Hapahauli

United States9305 Posts

September 24 2014 22:58 GMT

#774

On September 25 2014 07:24 Damdred wrote:
Ok hapa who do you think is the most scummy today so far and why besides ve? (I also take offense to being called a low poster this game when I have a decent sized filter with no filler from pregame!)

You were at the time that VE made his read on you. And I can't say your 2.5 pages of filter is inspiring.

Anyway, here's where I am:

CR-VE

I think VE is our solo mafia pairing, with CR being the blue. I think I've made my reasons clear by now.

Hapa-Abuse

Hello I am me.

Abuse seems fine. He seems enthusiastic and ready to share his ideas. Liked this in particular:

On September 25 2014 03:40 abuse wrote:

Show nested quote +

You either share your gum with the entire class, or don't chew it in front of everybody.

If I'm wrong about VE, I don't think abuse is the solo mafia.

Vayne--DP

I think this is a town-pairing. DP's push on me is annoying, but seems very genuine. He's interested in figuring out my alignment, is annoyed that I'm not telling him what he's expecting, etc.

This stuff about the 3rd party makes me lean town on Vayne. His stance on lynching CR is so absolute that I find it hard to come from a mafia mindset.

Grack--Kush/rightinthefeels
Geript--MysteryMeat
Oats--Damdred
Prome--yam

These are your plausible mafia pairings.

I'm fairly null on the Grack/Kush pairing. There's nothing overtly bad I see in their filters, but nothing good either. Grack in particular is pretty forgettable this game.

The Oats/Damdred pairing... leaning town. Mostly because of Oats. Oats seems to be doing his own thing and intermittedly calling people bad. As mafia, he tends to be much more "reasonable." Null on Damdred, 3 pages, largely forgettable.

Prome/Yam... I think Yam is town. I have very mixed feelings on Prome. I think his first post is awful, and he basically wants to lynch 3 players who haven't posted at the time he made that post. I do think he is capable of such a post as town tough. So Prome is plausible mafia, but I do not think Yamato is part of a mafia pairing.

Geript/MM - I'd wager this to be our mafia pairing right now, which I'll get to next post.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

September 24 2014 22:58 GMT

#775

Hapa you have to understand - you calling my reads "bullshit" and "incomprehensible" is offensive, because I AM town and those are MY reads based on MY observations. So to hear you discredit them as worthless and call me mafia for them is, to say the least, off-putting. Taken with how you were reacting to being called mafia yesterday first by DP and then myself, and I think you can reasonably see how I could want to lynch you in spite of your activity. If not, then that's whatever. But it's the truth.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

September 24 2014 22:59 GMT

#776

Or just bias yourself further. It's whatever. I'll be back when I have an idea of who I want to lynch today.

Damdred

15669 Posts

September 24 2014 23:00 GMT

#777

Hapahauli

United States9305 Posts

September 24 2014 23:00 GMT

#778

On September 25 2014 07:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
Anyone can see that my play has changed dramatically over the period of time between when those games you quoted were played and now.

But that's MUCH better Hapa. Much.

##Unvote

Like your posts yesterday calling me mafia didn't say anything like that. Yamato's posts on the matter had no detail and because I disagree that my townplay lacks confidence I took it as him just seeing something that isn't there. But you're right, my play HAS changed that much I guess. Anyway I'm town, and I'm willing to not lynch you today based on that case. It's far more put together and detailed than I was expecting given you responses last night.

How has your townplay changed that much? The fanfic game for example is markedly different from your gameplay here.

In that game, you were overwhelmingly town-reading active players. In this game, you are overwhelmingly town-reading lurkers.