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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
September 24 2014 16:14 GMT
#623
So historically I have a hard time reading Vayne, but this game I'm going to go out on a limb and say that I think he's town. Like, the last couple of times I've scumread him it's been for lack of insults and vulgarity and I'm thinking that read is outdated.

I can see his push for CR lynch as coming from a townie OR mafia for sure. I don't think CR is the easy target at all though, thread sentiment is heavily in favor of not lynching him. What makes you think CR is an easy target? Because he claimed third party? Even if you assume that is true, you have to account for the fact that most of the vocal players have stated that they either believe the claim or just don't want to lynch him. So going against the thread for what purpose? To appear contributory? At what cost?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
September 24 2014 16:15 GMT
#624
On September 25 2014 01:13 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 01:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
And Prome don't discredit my push for my lynch target as meaningless. That's your free one. Next one comes with consequences.


"wah wah no one posted" is meaningless. It will always be meaningless.


DP posted "kush is town" just after kush posted his first post asking why VTs are masons. That was my immediate thought on reading Kush's post and it gives me good vibes for the both of them.

Now that we have that out of the talk to me about Vayne. His attacks on CR are scummy, he has not considered the actual possibilities, has not understood Cr's claimed role and still wants to lynch him for it. That shows scum motivation. Agree? y/n?

I don't get how not understanding the role shows scum motivation. He could just not understand the role, as either alignment.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
September 24 2014 16:18 GMT
#628
On September 25 2014 01:16 Promethelax wrote:
At no cost. He gets to push a lynch target while avoiding commenting and committing on other players, since the thread is against the lynch on CR Vayne gets to do the same thing the next day. What is the town motivation for misrepresenting the claimed role repeatedly? Is Vayne bad enough to just not get how the role works?

I guess you'll be right if Vayne comes back and "does the same thing next day". If Vayne has nothing to contribute about other players then yes, I can agree that he's scummy. Otherwise everything I've seen from him kinda looks like paranoid townie to me, and I'm more interested in lynching someone actively scummy like Hapahauli.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
September 24 2014 16:20 GMT
#632
On September 25 2014 01:16 VayneAuthority wrote:
prom I received mod confirmation on how his role works -_- what is there to not understand? its in the thread read host's filter.

Like, he appears to know how the role works. Yet clearly he doesn't. Like - would mafia let their mafia partner do this?!?

I have my doubts. Still don't wanna lynch. Talk to me about Kush instead. What specifically makes you read Kush town?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
September 24 2014 16:23 GMT
#637
On September 25 2014 01:21 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 01:19 Damdred wrote:
So how would you feel about other people willing to lynch into Cr today pro?


I believe that CR is 3p. I'm not sure that I believe he is defender. If I am not confidant in anyone being scum he would not be a bad lynch. A bit like a d1 lurker lynch/self aware miller lynch. It isn't terrible but it isn't the best option.

^ my thoughts. Like, I wouldn't be opposed strongly to a CR lynch as he's been pretty much absent in our QT. We had a little back and forth last night about MM1 but from him it was just a couple of one-liners (MM1 and I are friend irl, etc etc) and then he went to bed or whatever.

But yeah, I think we have a good line scum in this game so I'd like to try and lynch scum rather than third party.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
September 24 2014 16:27 GMT
#641
On September 25 2014 01:24 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 01:21 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 25 2014 01:20 Promethelax wrote:
On September 25 2014 01:16 VayneAuthority wrote:
prom I received mod confirmation on how his role works -_- what is there to not understand? its in the thread read host's filter.


And you kept pushing him after that. Or at least that was what I saw when I was reading the thread. Am I wrong? Do you no longer believe him to be the best lynch?

Damdred: you made posts and they were meaningless. Everyone posted before me but I did not find what you posted useful or interesting. Feel free to contribute now and be memorable


the mod post gave even greater incentive to lynch him considering what CR posted before he left for what seems like the entire cycle. If he chooses to save mafia, which he will, our KP is meaningless.

If we are lynching into anyone else, well that is what we are figuring out in the QT atm.


If CR saves ANYONE his win con changes to Wins-With-Town why would he save scum? Explain.

VE: kush seems like town because of his first post. It struck me as coming from a town player and even more so a town kush. The thoughtlessness of claiming VT while at the same time misunderstanding how this set-up works is the carelessness of a town player.

Unless he's mafia, then it's "claiming VT to get a townread and then fuck off for the whole game"

What I'm asking you is why you think that comes specifically from townKush and not mafiaKush. I don't think Kush is a bad player - he's often perceptive and speaks his mind. He's been neither of those things this game, so I'm interested in why you're hard townreading him for his first post.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
September 24 2014 16:29 GMT
#643
On September 25 2014 01:28 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 01:26 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 25 2014 01:24 Promethelax wrote:
On September 25 2014 01:21 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 25 2014 01:20 Promethelax wrote:
On September 25 2014 01:16 VayneAuthority wrote:
prom I received mod confirmation on how his role works -_- what is there to not understand? its in the thread read host's filter.


And you kept pushing him after that. Or at least that was what I saw when I was reading the thread. Am I wrong? Do you no longer believe him to be the best lynch?

Damdred: you made posts and they were meaningless. Everyone posted before me but I did not find what you posted useful or interesting. Feel free to contribute now and be memorable


the mod post gave even greater incentive to lynch him considering what CR posted before he left for what seems like the entire cycle. If he chooses to save mafia, which he will, our KP is meaningless.

If we are lynching into anyone else, well that is what we are figuring out in the QT atm.


If CR saves ANYONE his win con changes to Wins-With-Town why would he save scum? Explain.

VE: kush seems like town because of his first post. It struck me as coming from a town player and even more so a town kush. The thoughtlessness of claiming VT while at the same time misunderstanding how this set-up works is the carelessness of a town player.


On September 24 2014 07:35 Chairman Ray wrote:
Yeah, what the heck.

I'm Chitaru Namatame the defender. Not gonna bother saving town. SO DON'T KILL ME MAFIA



Yes he is clearly trying to win with his survivor role and is asking scum to not kill him so that he can win in endgame. What is your point? Do you still not understand his role? He is saying he won't save ANYONE.

I read that as "I'm not saving anyone TODAY" but honestly I can see it that way too.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
September 24 2014 16:29 GMT
#645
On September 25 2014 01:29 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 01:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
On September 25 2014 01:24 Promethelax wrote:
On September 25 2014 01:21 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 25 2014 01:20 Promethelax wrote:
On September 25 2014 01:16 VayneAuthority wrote:
prom I received mod confirmation on how his role works -_- what is there to not understand? its in the thread read host's filter.


And you kept pushing him after that. Or at least that was what I saw when I was reading the thread. Am I wrong? Do you no longer believe him to be the best lynch?

Damdred: you made posts and they were meaningless. Everyone posted before me but I did not find what you posted useful or interesting. Feel free to contribute now and be memorable


the mod post gave even greater incentive to lynch him considering what CR posted before he left for what seems like the entire cycle. If he chooses to save mafia, which he will, our KP is meaningless.

If we are lynching into anyone else, well that is what we are figuring out in the QT atm.


If CR saves ANYONE his win con changes to Wins-With-Town why would he save scum? Explain.

VE: kush seems like town because of his first post. It struck me as coming from a town player and even more so a town kush. The thoughtlessness of claiming VT while at the same time misunderstanding how this set-up works is the carelessness of a town player.

Unless he's mafia, then it's "claiming VT to get a townread and then fuck off for the whole game"

What I'm asking you is why you think that comes specifically from townKush and not mafiaKush. I don't think Kush is a bad player - he's often perceptive and speaks his mind. He's been neither of those things this game, so I'm interested in why you're hard townreading him for his first post.


gutread.

#notasstrongasyouledmetobelieve
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
September 24 2014 16:30 GMT
#647
On September 25 2014 01:30 yamato77 wrote:
So VE, you think we should lynch Hapa OR DP. Which one and why, in your opinion?

Hapa, and why is strewn all over my filter bish. Open it and be amazed.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
September 24 2014 16:31 GMT
#650
On September 25 2014 01:30 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 01:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
On September 25 2014 01:24 Promethelax wrote:
On September 25 2014 01:21 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 25 2014 01:20 Promethelax wrote:
On September 25 2014 01:16 VayneAuthority wrote:
prom I received mod confirmation on how his role works -_- what is there to not understand? its in the thread read host's filter.


And you kept pushing him after that. Or at least that was what I saw when I was reading the thread. Am I wrong? Do you no longer believe him to be the best lynch?

Damdred: you made posts and they were meaningless. Everyone posted before me but I did not find what you posted useful or interesting. Feel free to contribute now and be memorable


the mod post gave even greater incentive to lynch him considering what CR posted before he left for what seems like the entire cycle. If he chooses to save mafia, which he will, our KP is meaningless.

If we are lynching into anyone else, well that is what we are figuring out in the QT atm.


If CR saves ANYONE his win con changes to Wins-With-Town why would he save scum? Explain.

VE: kush seems like town because of his first post. It struck me as coming from a town player and even more so a town kush. The thoughtlessness of claiming VT while at the same time misunderstanding how this set-up works is the carelessness of a town player.

Unless he's mafia, then it's "claiming VT to get a townread and then fuck off for the whole game"

What I'm asking you is why you think that comes specifically from townKush and not mafiaKush. I don't think Kush is a bad player - he's often perceptive and speaks his mind. He's been neither of those things this game, so I'm interested in why you're hard townreading him for his first post.

it's what DP said. Kush wouldn't think so far ahead to make that post as mafia.

It requires no thought - literally no thought at all - to say "Oy I'm a VT wtf is this QT" as mafia. There's no fore-thought necessary.

Anyway, I don't care because I'd rather lynch Hapa. I'm just saying townreading Kush for that is ludicrous.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
September 24 2014 16:32 GMT
#652
On September 25 2014 01:31 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 01:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
On September 25 2014 01:29 Promethelax wrote:
On September 25 2014 01:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
On September 25 2014 01:24 Promethelax wrote:
On September 25 2014 01:21 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 25 2014 01:20 Promethelax wrote:
On September 25 2014 01:16 VayneAuthority wrote:
prom I received mod confirmation on how his role works -_- what is there to not understand? its in the thread read host's filter.


And you kept pushing him after that. Or at least that was what I saw when I was reading the thread. Am I wrong? Do you no longer believe him to be the best lynch?

Damdred: you made posts and they were meaningless. Everyone posted before me but I did not find what you posted useful or interesting. Feel free to contribute now and be memorable


the mod post gave even greater incentive to lynch him considering what CR posted before he left for what seems like the entire cycle. If he chooses to save mafia, which he will, our KP is meaningless.

If we are lynching into anyone else, well that is what we are figuring out in the QT atm.


If CR saves ANYONE his win con changes to Wins-With-Town why would he save scum? Explain.

VE: kush seems like town because of his first post. It struck me as coming from a town player and even more so a town kush. The thoughtlessness of claiming VT while at the same time misunderstanding how this set-up works is the carelessness of a town player.

Unless he's mafia, then it's "claiming VT to get a townread and then fuck off for the whole game"

What I'm asking you is why you think that comes specifically from townKush and not mafiaKush. I don't think Kush is a bad player - he's often perceptive and speaks his mind. He's been neither of those things this game, so I'm interested in why you're hard townreading him for his first post.


gutread.

#notasstrongasyouledmetobelieve


I said I found him townie and that I was uninterested in lynching him today. Exactly as strong as I lead you to believe.

I know, I know...I just wish there was a reason for it. "gutread" sounds so dirty coming from you
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
September 24 2014 16:34 GMT
#655
On September 25 2014 01:33 yamato77 wrote:
Seems like OMGUS to me, VE. Ick.

Get with the program Yamato, it's mafia-oriented thinking being suspicious of VE. How many games with me in them have you played?!
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
September 24 2014 16:35 GMT
#656
Like is there something specific you disagree with re: what I say about Hapa Yamato?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
September 24 2014 16:42 GMT
#665
Okay, and then he reacts to being called mafia like mafia and just loses his shit. Does Hapahauli lose his shit when he's called mafia and OMGUS all over his accusor as town? Because historically I'd have to say that no, Hapahauli does not do that as town. As town Hapahauli forges ahead, makes cases that don't suck and looks town in spite of suspicion. This Hapahauli is doing none of that.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
September 24 2014 16:47 GMT
#669
It WAS good though! His case on geript was a joke, he literally just quoted some posts from geript and then made comments about them that painted them in a scummy light. Like, why is that townie to you and why is it not okay with you that I dislike that? Are you mafia yamato?!? DID I MISS SOMETHING AND YOU'RE EFFING MAFIA BRO?!?!
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
September 24 2014 16:50 GMT
#671
On September 25 2014 01:48 yamato77 wrote:
The case on geript wasn't supposed to be good, VE.

Yeah that's SUPER townie yamato. Get outta here. Fine don't vote for him. I don't need your vote to lynch scum today (I hope.)
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
September 24 2014 16:51 GMT
#672
AND JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR, THE "I HOPE" WAS IN REFERENCE TO THE NOT NEEDING YAMATO'S VOTE, NOT THE LYNCHING SCUM TODAY!! BECAUSE WE'RE LYNCHING SCUM TODAY FRIENDS!!
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
September 24 2014 16:56 GMT
#676
I think geript is town. His intro in this game looks identical to his entrance to the last game where he replaced townRayn. Further both DP and Hapa were trying to buddy him during their argument, and I believe that there is exactly 1 mafia between them, which makes geript confirmed town to me.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
September 24 2014 16:56 GMT
#677
On September 25 2014 01:55 yamato77 wrote:
Town VE wouldn't be this confident in an early D1 scum read : /

Obviously you're mistaken.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
September 24 2014 16:59 GMT
#680
On September 25 2014 01:57 yamato77 wrote:
VE, y u gotta be mafia.

/ignore
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