Season of the Witch Mafia

On September 04 2014 00:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
Oh man. I missed it.

On September 04 2014 08:12 IAmRobik wrote:
So you're giving me the grail. 100%.
I don't give a damn if you don't think I'm worth it.
I'm by far the best player when I'm town, and I'm town.

On September 04 2014 07:47 HaruRH wrote:
Also,

We must 100% choose someone and bot leave it up to witches.

The bearer of the holy grail will almost certainly die on d2 and the matyr should definitely try to save the bearer.

On September 04 2014 08:15 IAmRobik wrote:
Y'all can try to shit on me all you want. It is an undeniable fact that I am the best player in this lineup.

On September 04 2014 08:14 Koshi wrote:
HaruRH, if you believe that Koshi or rayn are the most important people.
and
if you believe scum will kill the grail owner.
why
do you want to give the grail to Koshi or rayn?

On September 04 2014 08:19 slOosh wrote:
Could someone link the old witch setup?

On September 04 2014 08:21 slOosh wrote:

Please explain in your words why HaruRH is likely to be scum.

On September 04 2014 08:32 slOosh wrote:

Ehh I don't think HaruRH is mafia for that given how his next post talks about the martyr saving that person. I disagree with your interpretation.

On September 04 2014 08:24 Koshi wrote:

my penis only goes from a scale of 10 to Rock Hard.

On September 04 2014 08:49 IAmRobik wrote:

I'm not talking out of my ass.

Think about what you would say if you were trying to say what he said. You wouldn't say that. You'd be concise.

On September 04 2014 08:57 IAmRobik wrote:

This is a trap post (not really) -- but someone is supposed to ask me about it.

On September 04 2014 10:31 IAmRobik wrote:
Why don't you trust me geript?

On September 04 2014 13:31 IAmRobik wrote:
IMPORTANT:

As soon as you enter angel chat, you MUST instantly claim your role.

On September 04 2014 15:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Don't talk about setup. You can only help scum.
Don't claim unless i tell you to.

Period.

On September 04 2014 15:55 ritoky wrote:


who, other than non-posters, is on your "too lynch list"?

On September 04 2014 15:58 ritoky wrote:


ritoky is the guy asking you this /facepalm

On September 04 2014 14:50 ritoky wrote:


i think talking about "optimal play" and the setup is an easy thing to do as either alignment and appear to be contributing. i also don't really think it yields much alignment indicative information unless someone is quite obviously intentionally feeding a bad line of play to everyone else. something which i would like to believe almost everyone who plays on these forums would be smart enough not to do as mafia. but i have seen and done a lot of stupid stuff so i guess nothing is outside of the realm of possibility.

i think syl is scummy right now because all he has talked about is setup, when challenged he got whiny and defensive, and he claimed to not have time and spent what he had in defense rather than actually trying to find scum in any way.

conversely, gobble faced basically the exact same challenges and just plodded on ahead. plus i liked his vehement stance against robik's suggestion to mass claim in angel thread. if he were mafia i don't think he would come out with that strong of a sentiment against it that quickly.

On September 05 2014 02:27 IAmRobik wrote:

There are 2 more mafia besides Rayn, if Rayn is mafia. Would rather focus on them because easier lynches and if I'm wrong on Rayn, I'd rather have Rayn around than useless people. As for why it makes me nervous of geript. Rayn has geript as his like 4th person on his list and me as his top -- not that it was in any particular order, but why would he vote for geript for grail over me?

On September 04 2014 20:39 Koshi wrote:
I think I am ok with the following people. Just based on their posts.
•Oatsmaster only because ritoky
•gobbledydook
•IAmRobik
•geript
•slOosh
•ritoky

On September 05 2014 03:12 IAmRobik wrote:
Basically, I want you to call me town and push for me to get the grail. I al

On September 05 2014 03:13 IAmRobik wrote:
I also want you to give hard reads on people, because you've done a wee bit of questioning but you haven't really taken a position on people. You danced around the Gooble situation, asking people for their opinions -- indirectly calling him scum and then you called sloosh scum i think. maybe not sloosh. someone not memorable.

On September 05 2014 03:49 IAmRobik wrote:
Where is everyone?

On September 04 2014 22:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Robert is town.
geript is town.
Koshi is likely town.
yamato town.
Oats is town (no Robert you are wrong).
Sloosh town.

Sylencia mafia.

ritoky town.

Bitches cannot read scum QT unless Palmar changed the original rules which would be dumb.

I'll retract from my Sloosh read.

Explain the bolded. They gave bad advice and/or didn't read the setup and certainly didn't help finding mafia.
Also explain how setup discussion is townish? If there was a way to break the setup this setup would not exist. You can't gain anything if you discuss the setup before D3.

I am not surprised geript's reads are the opposite of mine....

##DeadlineVote: Sylencia
##Vote for bearer of the Holy Grail: geript

On September 05 2014 06:17 slOosh wrote:

geript could you please elaborate here?

Also, Town Jesus best Jesus.
##Grail ritoky

On September 05 2014 06:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:

because i have my reasons which noone besides geript would never understand.

On September 05 2014 12:01 yamato77 wrote:
geript, what are your reads on koshi rayn and sloosh

On September 05 2014 12:01 yamato77 wrote:
geript, what are your reads on koshi rayn and sloosh

On September 05 2014 12:45 gobbledydook wrote:
I completely disagree with geript's meta scumread of me. He claims that I am 'commenting on the thread' instead of 'forcing my views on people' and I cannot agree at all. First of all regarding 'forcing my views' I don't have a scumread right now strong enough that I would hard push. It's not surprising given it's only halfway through day 1. I have expressed my reads clearly - I think koshi and sloosh are scum - just not so sure that I would hard tunnel them.

As for 'commenting on the thread', I must disagree as well. I understand what you mean but I completely disagree that I have been a pedestrian. I can only say that if you want to talk about 'staying off the radar' I would think koshi is the worst offender of the lot: He's said nothing at all about his intentions and reads! I don't think I fall into that category.

Because of this completely incorrect meta read, I must retract my grail vote from geript.

On September 05 2014 13:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yeah, earlier he didn't care a dude had a scumread on him, still voted for the grail.

However, is it weird weird or scum weird.

Leaning the first weird for now

On September 05 2014 13:29 ritoky wrote:


why should i give it to you over myself, Town Jesus, or geript?

On September 04 2014 14:24 IAmRobik wrote:
Sylencia is my #1 town

On September 05 2014 23:13 IAmRobik wrote:
How can people still doubt me as town? Y'all are fucking silly silly people. I've been the most vocal active person. If i'm scum, I'm leading the most retarded agenda of all time trying to push Rayn and geript when there are easily lynches like haru/gobble/sylencia/yamato/koshi available. If you look at my play in Order, after a silly silly push on marv on d1 or d2, I start focusing on low-post count players who are easy mislynches who contribute nothing.

Either way, I'm super obv town in my opinion.

I expect way more of town!damdred.
I think there is something off about koshi.
I still lynch sylencia, even though people are throwing scum his way.
i skipped a few pages from like pg 23-28, but i'll catch up on them at some point

On September 06 2014 01:01 yamato77 wrote:
Geript what if I told you I'd support your robik is scum lynch if you threw your support behind my grail campaign?

On September 06 2014 01:50 IAmRobik wrote:
Anyone else notice the lack of animosity between geript and yamato? Did you two kiss and make up or what?

On September 06 2014 02:09 IAmRobik wrote:

I just filter dove you and you didn't call yamato town a single time. Care to elaborate?

On September 05 2014 05:26 yamato77 wrote:

this gem

not the oats post

wtf im too tired

On September 06 2014 07:08 IAmRobik wrote:
Let's lynch a townie so that he can angel protect me

On September 07 2014 02:31 IAmRobik wrote:
geript holygrail'd ritoky without posting in this thread LOL

On September 07 2014 04:54 IAmRobik wrote:
Nope. I can pm you the roles if you want. Let's focus on deciding between Rayn or damdred. possibly geript. possibly koshi because oats wants to kill koshi and oats plays pretty well when he's town

On September 07 2014 05:02 IAmRobik wrote:

That would be impossible.

On September 07 2014 05:04 HaruRH wrote:
Right, so till now, geript still have yet to present a read independent of any meta references.

On September 07 2014 05:06 HaruRH wrote:

I'm going to laugh as people call me useless and call geript a useful town

On September 07 2014 05:07 Koshi wrote:

We don't. No lynch means confirmed town will do the killing.

On September 07 2014 05:11 HaruRH wrote:


This is a good time to use meta, geript

On September 04 2014 07:43 HaruRH wrote:
Alright let's cut to the chase and make it more readable for people who are going to join 5 hours later (and not fill 5 pages with spam)

Given the namelist right now, i feel that the holy grail should only go to either: koshi or rayn (or you can choose to give it to me :D). The rest are either too lurky or not going to use the 2 votes wisely (like robik).

We need to come up with a consensus so that the grail do not go to someone irresponsible.

On September 04 2014 08:16 HaruRH wrote:


Don't feel sad, maybe it's because i see value in keeping you alive over keeping both koshi and rayn alive so they can shit up the thread again on any given day

On September 04 2014 07:43 HaruRH wrote:
Alright let's cut to the chase and make it more readable for people who are going to join 5 hours later (and not fill 5 pages with spam)

Given the namelist right now, i feel that the holy grail should only go to either: koshi or rayn (or you can choose to give it to me :D). The rest are either too lurky or not going to use the 2 votes wisely (like robik).

We need to come up with a consensus so that the grail do not go to someone irresponsible.

On September 07 2014 05:29 yamato77 wrote:
geript

give me the grail

On September 07 2014 05:36 IAmRobik wrote:
loooooooooool. Geript still calling me scum. What an idiot

On September 07 2014 05:43 IAmRobik wrote:

Your reads are all "meta" based. Your read on Rayn is the most disgusting thing in this whole fucking game. You spent 40 hours giving no substance and have been doing nothing but asking stupid questions and voting random people in the voting thread without explaining any of the votes.

On September 07 2014 05:43 IAmRobik wrote:

Your reads are all "meta" based. Your read on Rayn is the most disgusting thing in this whole fucking game. You spent 40 hours giving no substance and have been doing nothing but asking stupid questions and voting random people in the voting thread without explaining any of the votes.

On September 07 2014 05:59 IAmRobik wrote:

It's just been you, Koshi and Rayn...no real shocker there.

"My name is geript and I'm going to tell you that Rayn is town because I have a meta read on him. I can't explain the meta read on him because it's not really a read and has nothing to do with this game, but I'm just gonna float out a guess to his alignment and cross my fingers and pray. I won't give a read on anyone else this game because I don't know how to read people"

^assuming you're town.

On September 07 2014 06:06 slOosh wrote:
geript, do you expressly not want to lynch Damdred? If so, why?

On September 07 2014 06:20 slOosh wrote:
Well I don't think a HaruRH lynch is gonna hit so why not move your vote over? What if judge was afk?

Same goes for everyone. Only scum, the judge himself, and naive townies wouldn't bother trying to consolidate at this point.

On September 07 2014 06:20 IAmRobik wrote:
geript...you're sooooooooooooo bad

On September 07 2014 06:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Haha half an hour before the deadline the vote leader has 3 votes.
This town is not gonna win a no-flip game so either lynch me so i don't have to play or vote sylencia. I am moving my vote now.

On September 07 2014 05:23 geript wrote:

Here's some meta. People who are completely useless on day 1 are usually scum. You've been completely useless day 1. You've asked people for reads and haven't provided any. Even your plan is complete horse shit. Let's cover said plan:

Give Koshi/Rayn the grail. Protect them at all costs. Then of course, because that plan is so obvious and makes so much sense you decide:

So you want to give the grail to people who would use it wisely and you want to give it to people who in your words: can shit up the thread again on any given day.


You want to give it to someone who isn't irresponsible and you're giving it to Robik? Like the vet who's the most likely to do something irresponsible with it.


Like it's real simple. You've done nothing but talk about the grail. Because that's easy to do. You've never formed any reads whatsoever. I don't care. I don't see why other people want to lynch Rayn or Koshi over you. It's quite hilarious

On September 08 2014 11:42 IAmRobik wrote:
i don't even know what to say. Can people do something so i can get a read on your idiots

On September 08 2014 14:43 ritoky wrote:
EVERYONE needs to give an opinion on this since it was NOT something decided collectively. IF YOU DO NOT I WILL PUSH YOU WITH THE WRATH OF TOWN JESUS:

Koshi: hit or miss? why?

On September 08 2014 14:39 Sylencia wrote:
yam would you consider Haru town for the fact he didn't play to the fact he could've fake CC'd Martyr as scum since he caught on to the fact I suspected he was the martyr? It would've had a fair chance of working ocnsidering it was goobly who was the actual martyr and a lot of us were quite suspicious of goobly until he dropped the role bomb

On September 08 2014 16:07 geript wrote:
Fwiw HaruRH and Oats are not very likely to be mafia together. HaruRH continuing to bitch about being caught. So noted.

On September 08 2014 19:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:

geript you are saying here mafia is in Sloosh/Damdred/Haru/Oats.
What has changed?

You are now calling at least one of Oats/Haru town (or both?). Do you still think Sloosh is mafia and if so why are you not voting for him?

On September 08 2014 23:54 IAmRobik wrote:
Also, geript and rayn bitching about me getting the grail is laughable. If they're town and wanna take control, I'm not stopping them. I'm 2 votes with 11 people in the game. Theoretically they could potentially get me lynched even with my two votes, but that would be super bad and super dumb since I'm town.

Anyone bitching about me being useless or about how they're upset that I have the grail looks really scummy

On September 08 2014 23:01 IAmRobik wrote:
EVERYONE NEEDS TO MAKE AT LEAST ONE POST ABOUT KOSHI SAYING IF IT WAS A HIT OR MISS AND WHY

On September 09 2014 01:08 IAmRobik wrote:

Then vote me you lil bitch.

On September 09 2014 01:09 IAmRobik wrote:

If you think I'm scum, you should 100% be voting me over anyone else since I have 2 votes. Man the fuck up and give an actual accusation besides "well he did something that I did in a scum game once" LOL

You're such trash

On September 09 2014 01:11 IAmRobik wrote:

You should care, for the exact reason that I gave.

If you're going to call me mafia, I want a real fucking accusation. Then I'm gonna take your meta cock and shove it in your ear.

On September 09 2014 01:19 IAmRobik wrote:
if votes are irrelevant, why are you spending 5 pages bitching about me having the grail? You're being a huge fucking hypocrite.

On September 09 2014 01:41 IAmRobik wrote:
In fact, that statement makes me town. I wouldn't need a "big peepee" as scum.

On September 09 2014 01:50 ritoky wrote:


right, because let's not consider that it's a no-flip game, so it's more like video mafia than regular forum mafia where speculation on the alignment of the dead is valuable information. that aside, there is NO VOTING RECORD. this was decided by 1 person, so we have no record of people's thoughts on the matter. why the hell do you want less information in the thread?

On September 09 2014 01:47 Sylencia wrote:
Oh yeah, forgot to mention:





I wrote my post pretty much with yamato's post in mind, and yet I get completely different results from geript:





Other than the fact my thought process was actually incorrect (which geript doesn't actually comment on), both follow the same train of thought. One player was in the position to make an 'easy' play (ignore the incorrect logic for a second). They don't, and instead choose to go with their honest thoughts about the situation. Thus, this player should be townie.

So how is it that in one case it's seen as really good logic, and in the other case it's seen as convoluted logic? As far as I can tell, this is a pretty easy way for geript to slowly move targets towards me. If he had commented on the incorrect logic around the time yamato posted about it and I realised my error, sure things would probably be different but he didn't consider it and just gave a weird reaction given the previous case.

On September 09 2014 01:53 IAmRobik wrote:
Haru might actually be mafia

On September 09 2014 02:29 Damdred wrote:
Ger could you tell me why you picked teh scum team you did?

On September 09 2014 02:40 Damdred wrote:


Sure could you actually answer the question

On September 09 2014 02:57 Damdred wrote:


You gave a smart ass reply not an actual answer, so if you could quit trying to play at semantics it would be cool.

On September 09 2014 03:04 IAmRobik wrote:

Why are you so desperately avoiding saying, "man, you're right. That's actualyl a good point" Stop being such a weeeweee

On September 09 2014 03:07 Damdred wrote:


Ok then answer, we know haru. But why did you pick the other people

On September 09 2014 02:01 IAmRobik wrote:


This goes against haru's whole argument for why geript is scum
Twisting meta to call a town town, is not using meta to geript's advantage if geript is scum.

On September 09 2014 04:21 Damdred wrote:


I haven't lied to you Rit at all, the other game is day 3 48+48+24+24. This game started around the time my cell was up in Cell mafia, I had my car stolen with my computer and cell phone in it. My activity on all three games basically hit 0 around the time that happened until I could get replacements, cell had 2 posts, this had 1 post and mission had maybe 2-3 if that.

Once I got a new phone I was able to post more day 2 there, and start here, but by then sloosh decided to jump on me before I could catch up and read the way I normally would.

Also, I generally respond to things directed at me in all the games I play with and comment on things that I want to otherwise. I posted about things that have looked off to me here, so far. And my meta is still being twisted to be the opposite of what it is for early in the game.

So no i'm not lying to you rit.

On September 09 2014 09:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
lynch dat lm guys.
INSTANT LYNCH HIS FACE SO WE CAN GET TO THE PART WHERE EVERYONE DIES.

On September 09 2014 12:28 HaruRH wrote:
ACTUALLY i thought that the judge's lynch was quite reasonable. By not targeting rayn, dam or sylencia, where mafia is definitely voting for at least one, he can let mafia think judge is between oats (for voting koshi) and rayn (they have some lame ass beef) which in fact, is most likely not true. As such, i can bet my balls (virtual balls) that mafia tried to kill rayn or oats and got blocked by gobble (this is espeically true since the necro can apparently still see the target's role, so that guy will get souped)

Since it is a given that judge lynched koshi with town intents, we can start eliminating people off the list.

Geript (2) - Sylencia, HaruRH
Sylencia (2) - ritoky, raynpelikoneet
Damdred (3) - gobbeldydook, Koshi, geript
Koshi (1) - Oatsmaster
Raynpelikoneet (5) - Yamato77, Damdred, IAmRobik, SloOsh,gobbledydook

Koshi is still a wildcard so he is bolded.
robik is town because i know for sure scumrobik will not go for the grail. He will just give excuses and lurk like mad.
gobble and i are green because gobble flipped while i am town. These are given.
Yamato is green because i trust robik's townreads more than my own.

if my analysis is correct, i predict that either oats or rayn will get souped. Mafia might try to save the soup and not soup anyone d2 too. I have different sets of scumreads according to who gets souped and if nobody gets souped. I'll save them for d3 so it doesn't help the mafia.
But, my general scumreads now are :geript, sloosh, ritoky.

On September 09 2014 13:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
geript do you really think robert is mafia? srs question.

On September 09 2014 13:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Here's what Sylencia has done in this game:
1) Setup speculation - everything he said was wrong or bad and at best a null tell
2) called geript scum - on D2 as per "what he said on D1 and what Haru summed up better but that was not his reasoning on D1.
3) he has "watched geript" after calling him scum on D1 - not scumhunting while accusing geript of not looking for more than 1 mafia" - yes he used that exact wording
4) called Koshi scum on D2 because he "suddenly let go of gobble" - not reading the thread because Koshi switched his vote when GOBBLE FUCKING CLAIMED!!!!

mafiamafiamafiamafiamafiamafiamafiamafiamafiamafiamafiamafiamafia!!!!

On September 09 2014 17:10 Sylencia wrote:
Actually on second thought I wouldn't bother revealing if I was to get lynched

On September 09 2014 17:43 Sylencia wrote:
Plz geript I know you want to soup but I'm still on the train, so you'll have to wait. Unfortunately for you though I've been sitting on this train for an hour know and it's not looking like I'm getting home any time soon =(!

On September 09 2014 18:14 HaruRH wrote:
Problem is, mafia still can soup tonight. If its me ill soup for all.

On September 10 2014 01:20 Oatsmaster wrote:

please explain why the real acolyte didnt claim?
1 for 1 always wins.

On September 04 2014 06:51 Palmar wrote:
Joke's on you, I set an alarm to remind me to host this shit.

Role PMs going out in the next 10 minutes. You will ONLY receive your role name. Refer to the OP for role.

Silence please

On September 04 2014 06:58 Palmar wrote:
Oh, and of course any roles that get additional information with their role PM will also get that information.

On September 10 2014 04:50 IAmRobik wrote:

That's weird that you automatically presume that that's what makes me not trust him.
I don't trust his reads. None of them are well formed nor based on the occurrences of this game.
He seems to be saying a lot of stuff but it's all meh
He keeps throwing dirt on me and I know I'm town.
Besides haru, he's spent a lot of time calling townies scum.

On September 10 2014 04:58 IAmRobik wrote:
What does me playing this setup have to do with anything?

On September 10 2014 05:01 Damdred wrote:
Geri, why do you nto buy syl claim? Is it only cause he said he did not look at who the inquisitor was?

On September 10 2014 14:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yeah geript would have defended me if he was town and had a townread on me on D1 end.
##unvote
##vote: geript

On September 10 2014 15:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I really like this post. People were calling gobble mafia at this point and i do not think scum!LM would defend a townie who's been called scum by basically everyone (at least noone was calling him town).

There is one thing i am waiting from LM which will affect my read on him in a way or another.

On September 10 2014 16:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
WHO THE FUCK CARES GERIPT???
If Koshi was not the Acolyte there is 0% chance Sylencia is mafia.

Why are you so obtuse?

On September 10 2014 16:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why would you trust them in the first place when they have made no lynch?

On September 10 2014 16:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
For the record even if Koshi WAS the Acolyte mafia would not know that.

On September 10 2014 16:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Your thought process is so convoluted it's impossible to follow it and it does not make any fucking sense so start explaining please. atm I cannot see how you can be town in this game geript....

On September 04 2014 08:24 Koshi wrote:

my penis only goes from a scale of 10 to Rock Hard.

On September 05 2014 02:18 Koshi wrote:

Koshi: "It is the new me"
Oats: "Show me where you did it before"

ok Oats. ok.

On September 05 2014 04:23 Koshi wrote:

Back then the bottom 4 seemed to be the driving force behind the thread progression. The ritoky syncing with Oats made me think Oats was a bad lynch as well.

On September 05 2014 04:56 Koshi wrote:

Calling him scum is ridiculous. Calling him town is ridiculous. But defending him is completely ridiculous which I feel you are doing here. Are you?

On September 05 2014 20:43 Koshi wrote:
LM/HaruRH/gobble


for endgame cred.

On September 10 2014 16:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
EBWOP: Rov = Oracle.

geript tell me why claiming Acolyte is better than claiming the cop on D2?

On September 09 2014 16:28 Sylencia wrote:
LM: Voting for the person I find my personal top scum read especially early on the day is in no way scummy - sloosh is 2nd on my list but I've been saying it since yesterday that I find geript to be the most scummy. If sloosh is worse in other's eyes and people want him dead, naturally I'm willing to switch.

Anyways if you guys are going to vote for me I can very easily claim, since I'd rather take the bullet tonight than have a better role die, and if I do survive it's still a win for town considering it's still more or less a confirmed townie. In addition, because of the fact the necromancer only knowing of the role of someone still alive, it'd be impossible to fake claim the role which was discovered because that person is still alive and able to CC.

Rayn: will respond to you when i get home, since I'm leaving work now

On September 09 2014 17:43 Sylencia wrote:
Plz geript I know you want to soup but I'm still on the train, so you'll have to wait. Unfortunately for you though I've been sitting on this train for an hour know and it's not looking like I'm getting home any time soon =(!

On September 09 2014 20:19 Sylencia wrote:
Anyways:

Claim or die geript?



Nah the brilliant part is that I didn't read who was the Inquisitor until now (to prevent myself from giving away information consciously or unconsciously) so that if the time came I would be able to role claim safely. On that note, our inquisitor is still alive and well.

Alive or dead, I don't care but to me it's up to the scum team to decide what happens during the night. What goes down N2 is probably the most telling thing in terms of the scum that are left.

"Why would you not read it when you first got it, other than the fact you'd be doing this to role claim later because that seems like horrible play?"
- Keeps me from being too biased given my knowledge of the inquisitor (too sheepy etc)
- Mathematically only a 1/12 chance of the inquisitor being lynched. Given that town players also act less scummy in general, that chance of being lynched decreases. This helps me justify not looking at it.
- If they died N1, I'd check. Given we know the martyr died, there was no need. I was going to hold on to whether or not I'd read it for another 12 hours because the final 24 hours of the day are always more important but yeah, since I have 3-4 votes on me my hand was kind of forced.

On September 10 2014 16:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:

cop or Rov.

On September 10 2014 17:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
how does soup work differently than it does on VS?

On September 10 2014 18:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
it is not lylo. you are not paying any attention to the game.
i just ran the numbers and hour or so ago...

On September 03 2014 18:37 Palmar wrote:

Well not sure if I understand your question, but the soup instantly fails when they guess wrong. So if the witches wanted to be clever and do something

Palmar - Acolyte
Palmar - Priest

they instantly fail if "Acolyte" is wrong, and the soup drinking ends, even if Palmar is priest, nothing happens to them.

Another example: Artanis the witch wants to kill townies, marv is Judge, Sandroba is Crusader and Palmar is Priest, and syllogism is Grandier. Witches submit:

marv - Judge
Sandroba - Crusader
Palmar - Acolyte
syllogism - Grandier.

This will result in:

Marv - dies (unblockable soup kill)
Sandroba - dies (unblockable soup kill)
Palmar - survives
syllogism - survives

Day post will read:

marv has been killed
sandroba has been killed
Artanis the witch tried to kill Palmar as the Acolyte.

I want to make sure that people also understand the witches can stop drinking the soup at any time, as in, they can submit as many target as they like. In the example above they could've submitted:

marv - Judge
Sandroba Crusader

And in that case the results will be:

Marv - dies (unblockable soup kill)
Sandroba - dies (unblockable soup kill)

and day post will read:

marv has been killed
sandroba has been killed

Notice how as they didn't get any guesses wrong, nothing is revealed.

On September 11 2014 04:02 slOosh wrote:
Order matters from my perspective because I need to figure out if you are town or scum in the way you are trying to deflect the lynch. Could you tell me your strongest scum read sans Syl regardless of viability of lynch? Or could you explain to me why Syl is scum and why we should all be lynching him.

On September 11 2014 04:27 slOosh wrote:
Also, timewise this game is like D3, you hit 10 pages after a week of play. I'll concede that several of your town games have many many posts, but your scum games also had decent sized filter (9 pages for the Game, ended D5, 7 For PTP Demon's Run lynched D3). So it's not as clear cut as that.

Basically Robik and rayn (whom I recently trust) both had issues with you so I need discussions to trust you now.

On September 11 2014 04:19 slOosh wrote:

Order in the sense of which one of them are you most confident of your scum read on. I mean who knows scum's soup skill level and more so if it is those three since it seems they are all playing this setup for first time. I'll be checking your filter in meantime. Do you still think Syl is mafia?

On September 11 2014 04:52 slOosh wrote:
Also, geript, I don't think your understanding of how soup works is correct. If they ever do a single successful soup and then mess up in the same night, they get revealed. It's not like a "one guess free" thing. Like N1 they did the witch kill to get a necro rolecop off rather than souping for no roles.

On September 11 2014 04:54 slOosh wrote:

Right, I'd say the same of me but I've learnt over time that it doesn't carry as much weight as I think it does.

To be clear you think Syl is town at this point?

On September 11 2014 05:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
geript is mafia because he didn't defend me on D1 and he is incapable of believing Sylencia is town and he does not even try to lynch him.

On September 05 2014 12:09 geript wrote:

I think they're all town.

On September 07 2014 06:05 geript wrote:

I don't bother explaining the Rayn read, because no one ever understands how we read each other. It's a lot like two wrestlers starting out at going for each other. They either dance around a bunch or the move closer and pick and feel each other out. There's just something about how things plays out. It's a lot of little things, like when and how Rayn asked me about my read on Gobble. Like who he attacks and why. What he calls me when and how he responds to things afterwards. It's not quite an explicable read for either of us. The last time Rayn tried to explain it, he ended up just saying, "Because he's just town."

On September 11 2014 05:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:

ritoky is not geript and geript would not say Sylencia is scum and THEN not push his lynch. Never.

On September 11 2014 05:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Yeah i was two votes short, you were online and didn't do shit.

On September 11 2014 05:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Let's lynch Oats then. Right now.

On September 11 2014 06:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Because Haru's read on you makes sense and Damdred in also probably town because of his response to me calling him scum.

On September 11 2014 06:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You and Oats would be my best guess.

On September 12 2014 13:41 yamato77 wrote:
Why would we want haru to claim?

On September 09 2014 16:28 Sylencia wrote:
LM: Voting for the person I find my personal top scum read especially early on the day is in no way scummy - sloosh is 2nd on my list but I've been saying it since yesterday that I find geript to be the most scummy. If sloosh is worse in other's eyes and people want him dead, naturally I'm willing to switch.

Anyways if you guys are going to vote for me I can very easily claim, since I'd rather take the bullet tonight than have a better role die, and if I do survive it's still a win for town considering it's still more or less a confirmed townie. In addition, because of the fact the necromancer only knowing of the role of someone still alive, it'd be impossible to fake claim the role which was discovered because that person is still alive and able to CC.

Rayn: will respond to you when i get home, since I'm leaving work now

On September 08 2014 23:18 Sylencia wrote:
Hit, he (geript) pushed for gobble fairly hard with a big post, but looks like he gave up and sheeped onto the Damdred train.

He had made a post about me being scummy, but when it came time for him to trade he decided between Damdred and I somehow a single post about potential buddying meant Damdred was better lynch choice.

On September 09 2014 22:50 Sylencia wrote:
Damdred you never gave me a list of scum reads I believe, the only person I can see from your filter is sloosh (in terms of suspects) who else is scum?

On September 10 2014 12:54 Sylencia wrote:


now there's someone with some sense



The only way you could ever address geript's post about "it is impossible to not read the PM" is if you could see my PM. As far as I can see, my PM is the only role in the game that would have extra information attached to it, and so whether or not you choose to believe the fact I could avoid the extra information or not is up to you.

I just find it amusing how geript pushes for my lynch still, and i find it disappointing that you're taking the bait ritoky