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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-02 12:40:10
September 02 2014 12:32 GMT
#6
Like. Hard to lose for town I think on TL. But it is a fun set-up. Really technical. Heroic plays are possible. Everybody got a role. Sick stuff.

/in (I am coming out of retirement to play this game for the sick children)
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 02 2014 13:50 GMT
#13
On September 02 2014 22:17 GlowingBear wrote:
Palmar, are you ok with me playing low posting like VA? I have time to play but only in specific days.
If so, /in.

Why do you ask the host? IT's the players that have to play with you.

20 posts a day minimum or gtfo is my moto.

Not enough people share my moto.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 02 2014 14:42 GMT
#18
There is really nothing wrong with it. Last 2 games were maybe a bit bumpy but once rayn was scum and 1 time he pretended to be one.

We have played like 20 games together and most of the times there is not a problem. When I say most I mean sometimes. Yes, sometimes of the times.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 02 2014 15:42 GMT
#20
ahhh. I am trying to post 2 pages D1, 3 pages D2, 4 pages D4, etc

Needs to happen.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 02 2014 17:16 GMT
#29
yes.

Witches should be able to stop soupdrinking at any point. Don't know if that is clear from the OP. You can do a soupkill and stop.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 02 2014 17:19 GMT
#30
I also take back that town should win this easily. It depends on where the dumb people are.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 03 2014 07:18 GMT
#47
On September 03 2014 13:17 gobbledydook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2014 11:12 gobbledydook wrote:
Wait

Does that mean that if the witches use Witch Soup to post a list of all the combinations of player - role matches, they instantly win?


Or does it mean, you may match any number of players to roles instead of the nightkill, but you may not match a player to more than one role per night?

If they drink soup they can PM a player + a role to the hosts.

On the first try:
If they are correct the player dies with the daypost. The witch can either stop guessing or continue.
If they are incorrect there is no night kill and the daypost will have the sentense "a witch tried to kill player y for z role"

Second try:
If they are correct the player dies together with the first guess at the daypost. The witch can either stop guessing or continue.
If they are incorrect there is first guess dies and the daypost will have the sentense "witch x tried to kill player y for z role"

Third try:
If they are correct already 3 people are dead. The witch can either stop guessing or continue.
If they are incorrect the 2 previous guesses die and a sentence is added to the daypost "witch x tried to kill player y for z role"

fourth try:
....
....


You get the drift.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 03 2014 09:59 GMT
#53
Can shots be held? scum kp and balrog shot. What happens when they don't send in stuff
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-03 20:39:38
September 03 2014 20:38 GMT
#68
Imagine if geript gets VE his role (Grandier)
How long would it take till it activates.
I put 100 esports dollars on 14 minutes and Robik dies.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-03 21:20:04
September 03 2014 21:19 GMT
#71
[T] Aperture Mafia 2: Episode 2 Loss

is how I remember geript.


Is this starting in 45 mins? Cuz I kinda want to go to bed.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 03 2014 22:11 GMT
#78
First. Confirmed town.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 03 2014 22:32 GMT
#84
My grailvote will be on the person with the most posts in the game. Become the townhero. Embrace it.

##vote for grail: Palmar
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 03 2014 23:06 GMT
#91
The grail is not that special bro. I do agree I am the most important player in this game.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 03 2014 23:14 GMT
#100
HaruRH, if you believe that Koshi or rayn are the most important people.
and
if you believe scum will kill the grail owner.
why
do you want to give the grail to Koshi or rayn?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 03 2014 23:24 GMT
#123
On September 04 2014 08:15 geript wrote:
BTW, I'm pretty happy lynching gobblygook whenever his turn comes around. Koshi on a scale of 1 to Rock Hard, how big is your hardon for lynching gobblygook and why.

my penis only goes from a scale of 10 to Rock Hard.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 03 2014 23:25 GMT
#126
On September 04 2014 08:24 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 08:22 gobbledydook wrote:
On September 04 2014 08:20 geript wrote:
On September 04 2014 08:14 Koshi wrote:
HaruRH, if you believe that Koshi or rayn are the most important people.
and
if you believe scum will kill the grail owner.
why
do you want to give the grail to Koshi or rayn?

I like this point. HarURH is my second lynch of choice currently.


you think haru is actively trying to confuse the town into giving the grail to a wrong person?
I'm not sold on the idea that he's acting maliciously.

Excessive word usage...mafia.

I'm literally going to tear apart each and every one of your posts Goooooblymaf

How is that excessive word usage?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 03 2014 23:37 GMT
#133
##HolyGrail: geript

I leave this thread in your capable hands.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 03 2014 23:39 GMT
#135
Robik if he keeps talking out of his ass.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 03 2014 23:48 GMT
#141
On September 04 2014 08:40 slOosh wrote:
Koshi, do you agree with geript's analysis on HaruRH?

gobbledydook, who should we give the grail to and why?

I agree that the grail talk from HaruRH is odd. His perspective diesnt make sense to me in the big picture. We will see what he does with his policy in the future.

I am in bed. 2 am ffs.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 03 2014 23:51 GMT
#145
On September 04 2014 08:49 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 08:39 Koshi wrote:
Robik if he keeps talking out of his ass.

I'm not talking out of my ass.

Think about what you would say if you were trying to say what he said. You wouldn't say that. You'd be concise.

Meh. I agree.

Anyway. Sleep.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 04 2014 11:39 GMT
#294
I think I am ok with the following people. Just based on their posts.
•Oatsmaster only because ritoky
•gobbledydook
•IAmRobik
•geript
•slOosh
•ritoky
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 04 2014 12:37 GMT
#301
On September 04 2014 21:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 20:39 Koshi wrote:
I think I am ok with the following people. Just based on their posts.
•Oatsmaster only because ritoky
•gobbledydook
•IAmRobik
•geript
•slOosh
•ritoky

why sloosh and why isnt this list about scum?

SlOosh because he posts things. He is trying to figure the game out.
Because I feel that this list was worth posting.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 04 2014 12:39 GMT
#302
gobbledydook, what is your read on yamato?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 04 2014 13:21 GMT
#309
On September 04 2014 21:57 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 21:37 Koshi wrote:
On September 04 2014 21:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 04 2014 20:39 Koshi wrote:
I think I am ok with the following people. Just based on their posts.
•Oatsmaster only because ritoky
•gobbledydook
•IAmRobik
•geript
•slOosh
•ritoky

why sloosh and why isnt this list about scum?

SlOosh because he posts things. He is trying to figure the game out.
Because I feel that this list was worth posting.

prove the sloosh thing.

Open filter, look at how many names he talks about, look at the lenght of his bigger posts, look at content of those posts. Verdict is do not lynch.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 04 2014 14:30 GMT
#335
On September 04 2014 23:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I also think LM is town.

Why? There is no reason for him to be town at all.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 04 2014 16:26 GMT
#372
On September 05 2014 00:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 00:38 IAmRobik wrote:
Can someone explain to me why gobble is speaking for people all game instead of just waiting for people to explain themselves? Is this towny? I have NOOOOOOOOOOOOO FUCKING CLUE how to read this behavior.

???

hes saying his reads?

##unvote
##vote Koshi

Why are you voting me Oats?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 04 2014 16:48 GMT
#389
On September 05 2014 01:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 01:26 Koshi wrote:
On September 05 2014 00:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 05 2014 00:38 IAmRobik wrote:
Can someone explain to me why gobble is speaking for people all game instead of just waiting for people to explain themselves? Is this towny? I have NOOOOOOOOOOOOO FUCKING CLUE how to read this behavior.

???

hes saying his reads?

##unvote
##vote Koshi

Why are you voting me Oats?

Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 13:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 04 2014 08:37 Koshi wrote:
##HolyGrail: geript

I leave this thread in your capable hands.

This right here. Feels so much like scum knowing who's town. And making the least suspicious vote for the holy grail. Also he didn't vote for himself or have any intention of voting for himself. The optimal play as town is ensuring you get the items. Koshi does not care about that. He cares about not drawing suspicion to himself by voting himself. Wrong focus. Scum. Lynch

I voted geript because I felt he was town. I didn't vote myself because I want other people to solve the game.
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 21:57 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 04 2014 21:37 Koshi wrote:
On September 04 2014 21:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 04 2014 20:39 Koshi wrote:
I think I am ok with the following people. Just based on their posts.
•Oatsmaster only because ritoky
•gobbledydook
•IAmRobik
•geript
•slOosh
•ritoky

why sloosh and why isnt this list about scum?

SlOosh because he posts things. He is trying to figure the game out.
Because I feel that this list was worth posting.

prove the sloosh thing.

I did. People who talk about or towards a lot of different people are mostly town. It's a valid D1 tactic. I still believe my list is correct. It's on the people not on my list to proof they are town. That's how I am going to play this day.
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 21:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 04 2014 20:39 Koshi wrote:
I think I am ok with the following people. Just based on their posts.
•Oatsmaster only because ritoky
•gobbledydook
•IAmRobik
•geript
•slOosh
•ritoky

why sloosh and why isnt this list about scum?

See above.
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 22:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 04 2014 22:21 Koshi wrote:
On September 04 2014 21:57 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 04 2014 21:37 Koshi wrote:
On September 04 2014 21:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 04 2014 20:39 Koshi wrote:
I think I am ok with the following people. Just based on their posts.
•Oatsmaster only because ritoky
•gobbledydook
•IAmRobik
•geript
•slOosh
•ritoky

why sloosh and why isnt this list about scum?

SlOosh because he posts things. He is trying to figure the game out.
Because I feel that this list was worth posting.

prove the sloosh thing.

Open filter, look at how many names he talks about, look at the lenght of his bigger posts, look at content of those posts. Verdict is do not lynch.

sick analysis bro.

See above²

I answered in the quote.

I am not going to be the guy playing thread police. I'll probably wont be able to hold myself when nothing happens the following 30 hours but atm I am happy where I am.

If you want to know my thought process ask me. I think the only not obvious townread is gobble and I townread him for asking reasoning behind posts. And being persistent about it.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 04 2014 16:54 GMT
#393
It's the new and improved me.
Mass posting is terrible for me because I get insanely caught within the thread. I need to be able to take a step back and look at the thread without bias.

It's much better for my reads.

I just need people to do the legwork for me.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 04 2014 17:01 GMT
#396
On September 05 2014 01:58 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 22:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not surprised geript's reads are the opposite of mine....


To the untrained eye, this isn't weird at all. But look at it closer.

"I am not surprised geript's reads are the opposite of mine" -- nothing wrong here
but then he puts an ellipsis and a smiley face after that.

I would have been fine with a period and a smiley face. or just a smiley face. but why would he put an ellipsis after a statement like that. It doesn't make sense!

An ellipsis implies that the thought trails off or that you want someone to draw a conclusion or that you're unsure about something and don't want to full commit.

It's just completely out of place.

It's the ... of disappointment. Which fits because he reads geript town.


Damdred,
I said pregame I wouldn't be posting much at all... Which I have been saying the last x games already.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 04 2014 17:18 GMT
#401
On September 05 2014 02:13 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 01:54 Koshi wrote:
It's the new and improved me.
Mass posting is terrible for me because I get insanely caught within the thread. I need to be able to take a step back and look at the thread without bias.

It's much better for my reads.

I just need people to do the legwork for me.

The tone this whole game is either super serious or fake happy.
Lynch this shit man.


Koshi, show us a town game where you played the same way.

Koshi: "It is the new me"
Oats: "Show me where you did it before"

ok Oats. ok.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 04 2014 19:23 GMT
#434
On September 05 2014 03:14 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 20:39 Koshi wrote:
I think I am ok with the following people. Just based on their posts.
•Oatsmaster only because ritoky
•gobbledydook
•IAmRobik
•geript
•slOosh
•ritoky

I've been thinking about this, but can you explain the Oats, Gobbly and Robik reads.

Back then the bottom 4 seemed to be the driving force behind the thread progression. The ritoky syncing with Oats made me think Oats was a bad lynch as well.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 04 2014 19:27 GMT
#436
It makes me not want to lynch him.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 04 2014 19:46 GMT
#447
On September 05 2014 04:41 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 22:00 gobbledydook wrote:
On September 04 2014 21:39 Koshi wrote:
gobbledydook, what is your read on yamato?


He's scum. He had better have a good reason to explain his posting or I'm voting the shit out of him. As I said he has the time to come into the thread to say koshi is scum without any explanation, but doesn't actually bother to do anything constructive. One can only presume he's wasting our time.


Please go check Guilty Mini Mafia - he was town. Would you agree that his play here looks somewhat similar to his early play in that? Does that affect your read on him?

How does his play look the same? Yamato made 2 posts saying I am scum in 24 hours.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 04 2014 19:56 GMT
#451
On September 05 2014 04:50 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 04:46 Koshi wrote:
On September 05 2014 04:41 LoneMeow wrote:
On September 04 2014 22:00 gobbledydook wrote:
On September 04 2014 21:39 Koshi wrote:
gobbledydook, what is your read on yamato?


He's scum. He had better have a good reason to explain his posting or I'm voting the shit out of him. As I said he has the time to come into the thread to say koshi is scum without any explanation, but doesn't actually bother to do anything constructive. One can only presume he's wasting our time.


Please go check Guilty Mini Mafia - he was town. Would you agree that his play here looks somewhat similar to his early play in that? Does that affect your read on him?

How does his play look the same? Yamato made 2 posts saying I am scum in 24 hours.


Similar in the sense that he doesn't really give much real reasoning in that either. It's a little more verbose than this game, I'll admit that, but at least for me it gives enough doubt that I can not call him scum for the play he's displayed so far.

Calling him scum is ridiculous. Calling him town is ridiculous. But defending him is completely ridiculous which I feel you are doing here. Are you?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 05 2014 11:37 GMT
#543
On September 05 2014 14:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am pretty puzzled because robik's reads are way off. Like they are really off in my opinion. Other than that i think he is town.
ritoky is being dumb as hell.... Many other people are running in circles with no real cases, they just call some people scum and do not make cases or vote properly. I have no fucking idea what Haru is doing.

Koshi help me out here.
Sylencia, gobbeldobbel and Sloosh/Haru. Who's scum there?

Robik is town. I don't see him going after you, gobble and geript while making somewhere sense in the distance as scum. Robik his reads are pretty often trash btw. Don't think he was ever remotely decent when I was in the game. I think that if I want to lynch anybody Robik is after I would lynch gobble. geript/rayn not till my questionmarks are cleared.

SlOosh is cooling down but I still want to call him town fir his first 24h.

Haru is playing way more ghostly than previous game. I wonder what he wrote down in his notebook atm. Currently he is only talking about set-up or telling people to ignore him:
On September 04 2014 22:59 HaruRH wrote:
Btw, anyone who townreads me on d1 are scum. Literally all my games came out as such.
Or they are trying to hardpush me.

I wonder if he added the bolded afterwards. In neat & tidy scum wasn't hardpushing him, it was town.

gobble:
Just read his filter. Stopped making any effort after he voted me except to defend himself once. Looks like he is trying to hard buddy Oats. Can lynch.

Sylencia:
On September 04 2014 21:06 Sylencia wrote:
Haru is town. Can't explain in too much detail without souping Haru. I am pretty certain I'm seeing the ideal situation and disagree with Koshi's statement about not seeing the big picture.

Null:
yamato - call out with no reasoning. Impossible to say anything about it
damdred - 1 post
rayn - 1 post
lonemeow - not in yet

I'm extremely conflicted about Oats. I hate the fact he called sloosh and koshi scum without any reasoning - and still without explaining why he called it out in the first place. His case against sloosh is pretty paper thin and I disagree with his interpretation of sloosh's posts. My interpretation is that the Oracle, Inquisitor and Wraith do what they think is best in terms of both finding the best time to reveal and expose themselves to soup, and in addition who they target. All of us, including the mentioned roles should (at some point closer to deadline more likely) put in suggestions as to who are the ideal target(s). Obviously we can wait for sloosh to come back to smooth things out a bit, but I feel like Oats is just cherry picking the part that makes sloosh look the worse and ignoring everything around it. Main reason why I'm conflicted is because the way Oats has been playing is classic town Oats and some high percentage of games (I think) end up with Oats being mislynched D1 because of it -_-

IAmRobik - pretty townie, can't see scum seeing the gobble grail vote reasoning before being told about it. I wouldn't ever hammer over this alone, but it's definitely a strike against gobble

Gobble is null-scum - Until I think about it later, something gives me a bad feeling about the initial planning post (regarding Inquis/Oracle visiting the same person) - like it feels like a plan to stifle the information we get from the Inquisitor in order to get Oracle views, which I think is pretty average N1. Then there's the case from Robik which I still think is still decent, but as I said, it's not solid enough evidence.

Scum team prediction so far: 1 of the players who haven't posted more than once or twice, oats and gobble.

I really like this post tbh. About the bolded part. Oats and gobble are never scum together.
Nha, I don't want to lynch Sylencia at all. I think he is town.

I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 05 2014 11:42 GMT
#544
[red]LM/HaruRH/gobble/yamato/Damdred[red]

That's where I am atm.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 05 2014 11:43 GMT
#545
LM/HaruRH/gobble


for endgame cred.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 05 2014 11:51 GMT
#546
Out of those 3.

##deadlinevote: gobbledydook

Early game presence looks like a scum looking for a target, more than a townie looking to solve the game. Stopped caring to solve the game as soon as he voted for me.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 05 2014 12:09 GMT
#548
Are you doing the notebook thingie HaruRH?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 05 2014 12:16 GMT
#550
Can you trow down a vote? Grail or deadline.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 05 2014 12:43 GMT
#552
On September 05 2014 21:23 HaruRH wrote:
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On September 05 2014 21:16 Koshi wrote:
Can you trow down a vote? Grail or deadline.


Did you even read the voting thread

You vote in the voting thread but not mention it in your reads post.

Last question: What do you think about gobble?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 05 2014 12:59 GMT
#555
On September 05 2014 21:56 HaruRH wrote:
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On September 05 2014 21:43 Koshi wrote:
On September 05 2014 21:23 HaruRH wrote:
On September 05 2014 21:16 Koshi wrote:
Can you trow down a vote? Grail or deadline.


Did you even read the voting thread

You vote in the voting thread but not mention it in your reads post.

Last question: What do you think about gobble?

was i supposed to put my vote here too? no.

I would say that scum gobble is wayyyyy more lurky than this. I know because I played with both town and scum gobble.

Show me the games please. I need to go to a german training now. I read them when I am home.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 05 2014 23:54 GMT
#696
I still want to lynch gobble. Gobble isn't doing anything since he parked his vote on me, staying in the shadows praying that my lynch takes off or that he stays hidden voitng me. This is the only "valuable" post he made in the last 18 hours.
On September 05 2014 22:06 gobbledydook wrote:
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On September 05 2014 21:10 HaruRH wrote:
I thought the notebook idea sucked so i decided not to use it.
Robik still haven't convinced me he is town yet. I am waiting.
Koshi, stop lying about wanting to post lesser. You know it won't happen and it only makes people suspicious of you. Where is the 'i am the town lord' koshi? Or are you scum?
Sylencia... wtf? Souping me? Are you trying to figure out my role or have you?
Oats... i feel the singaporean from you. We both are confusing for stupid americans.
Yamato -afk lord
Geript is missing. Where is he?

I'm not interested in talk about the rest yet.
Meanwhile, i am ghostly because i am busy. But i will have sudden spikes in activity when I'm free. Start asking me questions.


1. I can't tell if robik is town or not.
2. koshi is scum that's why
3. can you quote the sylencia post in question
4. wtf
5. ya he needs to post. It's not like he hasn't checked into the thread. he just doesn't post.
6. idk.

Gobble scumreads me for my town listpost. What is this then?
1) useless
2) wrong
3) not doing any work, how hard can it be to open sylencia his filter and search for the quote? He has a 1 page filter. This shows that gobble has no interest in analysing or searching for anything in the sylencia post. Just pretending wanting to help.
4) useless
5) " It's not like he hasn't checked into the thread. he just doesn't post. " O rly? How do you know? How can gobble know this? They are either scumbuddies and yamato logged into the scumqt or gobble is talking straight out of his ass here.
6) useless

Like, what is gobble doing here? He just quotes the first content posts HaruRH made that isn't about set-up and comments in it? Is this pressure on HaruRH? What is this? To me it looks like gobble saw an opportunity to trow some dirt on me and tried to mask it with putting words around it.

Also gobble his read on yamato is way too strong:
On September 04 2014 21:17 gobbledydook wrote:
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On September 04 2014 21:06 Sylencia wrote:
Haru is town. Can't explain in too much detail without souping Haru. I am pretty certain I'm seeing the ideal situation and disagree with Koshi's statement about not seeing the big picture.

Null:
yamato - call out with no reasoning. Impossible to say anything about it
damdred - 1 post
rayn - 1 post
lonemeow - not in yet

I'm extremely conflicted about Oats. I hate the fact he called sloosh and koshi scum without any reasoning - and still without explaining why he called it out in the first place. His case against sloosh is pretty paper thin and I disagree with his interpretation of sloosh's posts. My interpretation is that the Oracle, Inquisitor and Wraith do what they think is best in terms of both finding the best time to reveal and expose themselves to soup, and in addition who they target. All of us, including the mentioned roles should (at some point closer to deadline more likely) put in suggestions as to who are the ideal target(s). Obviously we can wait for sloosh to come back to smooth things out a bit, but I feel like Oats is just cherry picking the part that makes sloosh look the worse and ignoring everything around it. Main reason why I'm conflicted is because the way Oats has been playing is classic town Oats and some high percentage of games (I think) end up with Oats being mislynched D1 because of it -_-

IAmRobik - pretty townie, can't see scum seeing the gobble grail vote reasoning before being told about it. I wouldn't ever hammer over this alone, but it's definitely a strike against gobble

Gobble is null-scum - Until I think about it later, something gives me a bad feeling about the initial planning post (regarding Inquis/Oracle visiting the same person) - like it feels like a plan to stifle the information we get from the Inquisitor in order to get Oracle views, which I think is pretty average N1. Then there's the case from Robik which I still think is still decent, but as I said, it's not solid enough evidence.

Scum team prediction so far: 1 of the players who haven't posted more than once or twice, oats and gobble.


I'm amazed that you are null reading the person who has posted nothing but 'i think koshi is scum' and 'still think hes scum'.
I think it's very weird that yamato would bother to come in, make an unsubstantiated post, and then disappear. Clearly he had the time to post, but his effort doesn't show it.

Here you see gobble hard scumreading yamato for making 2 posts that say "I think Koshi is scum'
On September 04 2014 22:00 gobbledydook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 21:39 Koshi wrote:
gobbledydook, what is your read on yamato?


He's scum. He had better have a good reason to explain his posting or I'm voting the shit out of him. As I said he has the time to come into the thread to say koshi is scum without any explanation, but doesn't actually bother to do anything constructive. One can only presume he's wasting our time.

Strong scumread on yamato.
On September 04 2014 22:08 gobbledydook wrote:
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On September 04 2014 22:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 04 2014 22:00 gobbledydook wrote:
On September 04 2014 21:39 Koshi wrote:
gobbledydook, what is your read on yamato?


He's scum. He had better have a good reason to explain his posting or I'm voting the shit out of him. As I said he has the time to come into the thread to say koshi is scum without any explanation, but doesn't actually bother to do anything constructive. One can only presume he's wasting our time.

Why does scum draw attention to himself like that?

That's a good point. I don't know. I don't know why town would do that either.
It's just anti-town.

Gets called out for it and POOF, yamato scumread is gone in all his future posts.
On September 05 2014 00:36 gobbledydook wrote:
Here's why I think koshi is scum.

1)
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 20:39 Koshi wrote:
I think I am ok with the following people. Just based on their posts.
•Oatsmaster only because ritoky
•gobbledydook
•IAmRobik
•geript
•slOosh
•ritoky


this is a really bad post. It's a list of town people with no explanation whatsoever. It's not a list town would make.

2) he has done nothing while posting a whole page of filler. I don't see any insight he has offered that I would expect an experienced player like koshi would make as town. He went to sleep when the day had just started, but his posts haven't gained substance since he woke up.


A look through sloosh's filter and it's not impressive either. There's some meaningless setup talk, and then there are a series of open-ended questions without actually committing to anything. I don't even know what his reads are. I agree with oats here on sloosh scum.

Nothing on yamato. Also from reading this I would vote SlOosh over Koshi.
On September 05 2014 12:45 gobbledydook wrote:
I completely disagree with geript's meta scumread of me. He claims that I am 'commenting on the thread' instead of 'forcing my views on people' and I cannot agree at all. First of all regarding 'forcing my views' I don't have a scumread right now strong enough that I would hard push. It's not surprising given it's only halfway through day 1. I have expressed my reads clearly - I think koshi and sloosh are scum - just not so sure that I would hard tunnel them.

As for 'commenting on the thread', I must disagree as well. I understand what you mean but I completely disagree that I have been a pedestrian. I can only say that if you want to talk about 'staying off the radar' I would think koshi is the worst offender of the lot: He's said nothing at all about his intentions and reads! I don't think I fall into that category.

Because of this completely incorrect meta read, I must retract my grail vote from geript.

Again nothing on yamato, and yamato posted way less than me at that point.
On September 05 2014 22:06 gobbledydook wrote:
5. ya he needs to post. It's not like he hasn't checked into the thread. he just doesn't post.

Back to yamato is scum for actively lurking. How can you say that and not mention yamato for "staying of the radar" in the previous post?



The only thing gobble does this game is see a post and (over)react to it. Look at his posts. Somebody makes a post and gobble reacts on that post alone, never combines anything and gives his point of view. Which is probably pretty difficult when you are not even reading the thread carefully.


Please vote gobble.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 06 2014 12:57 GMT
#737
##unvote

Martyr needs to cc and die n1.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 06 2014 12:59 GMT
#738
On September 06 2014 19:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
We have nowhere near a majority right now.

13 players means 7.

I feel like koshi is more deserving of death because of his lacklustre contributions and the amount of bullshit he has spewed.

Oats, stop your dumb tunnel. kkthxbye.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 06 2014 13:00 GMT
#739
On September 06 2014 21:25 Sylencia wrote:
I didn't see you playing scummy but at least you picked up the rest of it, and ok

Why did you have HaruRH as martyr?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 06 2014 15:26 GMT
#765
Out of Sylencia and Damdred I want to lynch Damdred.
On September 05 2014 21:44 Damdred wrote:
##HolyGrail Geript

I like his filter looks pretty town to me, and Koshi I like this you better than the earlier you

This looks like a buddying attempt to me. I shouldn't look better to him when I just had him in my scumlist.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 06 2014 15:29 GMT
#767
I also voted ritoky for the Holygrail because the only thing Robik will do with it is take town hostage.

##Deadlinevote: Damdred
##Grailvote: Ritoy
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 06 2014 15:32 GMT
#768
On September 07 2014 00:29 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 00:26 Koshi wrote:
Out of Sylencia and Damdred I want to lynch Damdred.
On September 05 2014 21:44 Damdred wrote:
##HolyGrail Geript

I like his filter looks pretty town to me, and Koshi I like this you better than the earlier you

This looks like a buddying attempt to me. I shouldn't look better to him when I just had him in my scumlist.


Koshi, was reading your filter. You seem pretty solid on gobble town and said in one post that her posts make you feel that way. What changed? Was it just because gobble put the vote on you and left for awhile? In a follow up post you said that gobbles early game was scummy. If you thought the early game was scummy why did you have gobble in your town pile to start with?

I had gobble as town because he was trying to move the thread forward. Kept asking questions and had a 2-3 page filter when I made that list.But after he voted me gobble stopped doing anything. Which is in big contrast to what he was doing earlier, so to me his early game looked like scum trying to find a place to park his vote over trying to solve the game.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 06 2014 16:55 GMT
#806
On September 07 2014 00:49 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 00:48 IAmRobik wrote:
On September 07 2014 00:46 Sylencia wrote:
Guys, let's not be lazy and select the person with less activity than the rest. It's pretty much set up to be an easy mislynch if he's town and there's just not enough to go off instead of others.

If I was to select someone for lynching it's geript. He's actually done very little to help town, beyond the first 12 hours of the game, he's been finding people safe over people who are scummy. Process of elimination probabyl works at a lower player count, but to try pull off 13 man PoE isn't something I'd see anyone trying to do.

Damdred is basically scum claiming.

"I'm going to do work to prove that i'm town"

goes off and posts in a different game instead of playing this one

"guys, i'm just keeping up with what's happening right now, which is hard cause it's like 1 post per half hour"

leaves again

"guys, i'm not gonna do work because i don't think 6 hours is enough time to do the work required to convince you that i'm town"

Fuck that shit.


Except obviously i'm actually reading filters since you know I asked questions to koshi from his fucking filter right? RIGHT?

Why do you start diving me when we were together on gobble before?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 06 2014 17:00 GMT
#808
On September 07 2014 01:57 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 01:55 Koshi wrote:
On September 07 2014 00:49 Damdred wrote:
On September 07 2014 00:48 IAmRobik wrote:
On September 07 2014 00:46 Sylencia wrote:
Guys, let's not be lazy and select the person with less activity than the rest. It's pretty much set up to be an easy mislynch if he's town and there's just not enough to go off instead of others.

If I was to select someone for lynching it's geript. He's actually done very little to help town, beyond the first 12 hours of the game, he's been finding people safe over people who are scummy. Process of elimination probabyl works at a lower player count, but to try pull off 13 man PoE isn't something I'd see anyone trying to do.

Damdred is basically scum claiming.

"I'm going to do work to prove that i'm town"

goes off and posts in a different game instead of playing this one

"guys, i'm just keeping up with what's happening right now, which is hard cause it's like 1 post per half hour"

leaves again

"guys, i'm not gonna do work because i don't think 6 hours is enough time to do the work required to convince you that i'm town"

Fuck that shit.


Except obviously i'm actually reading filters since you know I asked questions to koshi from his fucking filter right? RIGHT?

Why do you start diving me when we were together on gobble before?


You were in the thread and I was trying to gather some questions for people from the thread and it caught my attention and you were here so why not ask?

So you have 0 clues were to start 48 hours in the game?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 06 2014 17:00 GMT
#809
where*
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Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 06 2014 17:39 GMT
#832
Ughh rayn filter is kinda lacking and he didn't piss me off yet. Killing rayn D1 is really bad though.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 06 2014 17:44 GMT
#836
On September 07 2014 02:40 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 02:39 Koshi wrote:
Ughh rayn filter is kinda lacking and he didn't piss me off yet. Killing rayn D1 is really bad though.


If you think someone is scum shouldn't you vote them no matter who they are?

Don't put words in my mouth. I am not convinced he is scum at all.
On September 07 2014 02:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On September 07 2014 02:28 yamato77 wrote:
oats is town

you say that every single game Im in man.

Koshi, why the fuck dont you have a solid read on rayn?

stfu Oats.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 06 2014 19:44 GMT
#874
Not enough people are around for rayn. Just go damdred.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 06 2014 20:00 GMT
#886
The sad part is that Robik is going to get the grail.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 06 2014 20:00 GMT
#887
I really hope it is a yamato/oats scumteam. That would be so fucking perfect.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 06 2014 20:06 GMT
#896
On September 07 2014 05:02 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 05:00 Koshi wrote:
I really hope it is a yamato/oats scumteam. That would be so fucking perfect.

That would be impossible.

Oats can have a good D1 as scum. We will see if he can keep it up. Don't get me wrong, I think he is town and scum lies within Damdred/LM/HauRH. somewhere there. rayn/Sloosh/syl are all good replacements but I don't see them scum atm.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 06 2014 20:07 GMT
#899
On September 07 2014 05:07 Damdred wrote:
ok we have an hour and 52 minutes, ger is voting rob for who knows what reason.

So i'd be happy to move to geript or lynch rayn at this point, i'd rather not lynch me but we do need a majority

We don't. No lynch means confirmed town will do the killing.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 06 2014 21:02 GMT
#931
Robik. Don't fuck up this game when you get the grail. THX.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 06 2014 21:05 GMT
#937
Let's get majority please. I am willing to sheep.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 06 2014 21:37 GMT
#954
Let's fucking lynch somebody.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 06 2014 21:45 GMT
#958
dafuq rayn. It is Sunday tomorrow. Why can't you make deadline?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 06 2014 21:46 GMT
#959
So we no lynch?
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