Season of the Witch Mafia

On September 02 2014 22:50 Koshi wrote:

Why do you ask the host? IT's the players that have to play with you.

20 posts a day minimum or gtfo is my moto.

Not enough people share my moto.

On September 04 2014 03:58 geript wrote:

If you really want to play you can have my spot.

On September 04 2014 05:38 Koshi wrote:
Imagine if geript gets VE his role (Grandier)
How long would it take till it activates.
I put 100 esports dollars on 14 minutes and Robik dies.

On September 04 2014 06:19 Koshi wrote:
[T] Aperture Mafia 2: Episode 2 Loss

is how I remember geript.

---

Is this starting in 45 mins? Cuz I kinda want to go to bed.

On September 04 2014 08:06 Koshi wrote:
The grail is not that special bro. I do agree I am the most important player in this game.

On September 04 2014 07:30 HaruRH wrote:


So friggin true it hurts

On September 04 2014 08:15 IAmRobik wrote:
Y'all can try to shit on me all you want. It is an undeniable fact that I am the best player in this lineup.

On September 04 2014 08:15 geript wrote:
BTW, I'm pretty happy lynching gobblygook whenever his turn comes around. Koshi on a scale of 1 to Rock Hard, how big is your hardon for lynching gobblygook and why.

On September 04 2014 08:16 HaruRH wrote:


Don't feel sad, maybe it's because i see value in keeping you alive over keeping both koshi and rayn alive so they can shit up the thread again on any given day

On September 04 2014 08:17 IAmRobik wrote:
I claim Rov.

On September 04 2014 08:18 geript wrote:
Rob... seriously dude. Get over it. Why aren't you talking about how much you want to lynch GG?

On September 04 2014 08:19 slOosh wrote:
Could someone link the old witch setup?

On September 04 2014 08:20 geript wrote:

I like this point. HarURH is my second lynch of choice currently.

On September 04 2014 08:22 gobbledydook wrote:


you think haru is actively trying to confuse the town into giving the grail to a wrong person?
I'm not sold on the idea that he's acting maliciously.

On September 04 2014 08:25 Koshi wrote:

How is that excessive word usage?

On September 04 2014 08:39 Koshi wrote:
Robik if he keeps talking out of his ass.

On September 04 2014 08:47 gobbledydook wrote:


geript is a very reasonable man. I also think we should give it to him. geript doesn't seem like someone who would go full retard like robik. I trust he will use his powers wisely.

##HolyGrail: geript

On September 04 2014 08:46 IAmRobik wrote:

It's way more verbose than it should be.

I'm not sold on the idea that.

who says that?

That's the most convoluted fabricated phrasing ever. You have to purposefully think of that type of shit.

Town just say "i don't" after their question.

On September 04 2014 08:49 IAmRobik wrote:

Hmmmm. So conflicted about this.

On September 04 2014 09:17 geript wrote:
You're going to have to explain your line of thinking here Robik.

On September 04 2014 10:04 geript wrote:
KK gobbly, good you're here. What are you going say when I get the grail and lynch you D1?

On September 04 2014 09:08 gobbledydook wrote:
What's the problem with that? I don't agree with this particular read but I think he's a good player overall that wouldn't misuse the double vote.

On September 04 2014 10:31 IAmRobik wrote:
Why don't you trust me geript?

On September 04 2014 10:37 geript wrote:

Because there's no reason to trust you. Like I don't think you're obviously town. I'm quite possibly wrong about Gobbly and he could be town. He'd be an easy mislynch to push if you're scum and you play scum pretty well. Like this game really, really reminds me of a game of video mafia where surprise you were mafia and the newbie where you were mafia and everyone called you out and the cop or someone never lynched you for whatever reason despite everyone dying saying you were mafia.

On September 04 2014 10:58 geript wrote:
both his scum games and both his town games.

On September 04 2014 11:17 gobbledydook wrote:


I think he's just stirring shit up. We can safely ignore this vote.

On September 04 2014 11:55 ritoky wrote:


i think everyone sees you jerking off enough in this thread.

On September 04 2014 13:28 gobbledydook wrote:


no.

I do not see how you are a particularly good target for a n1 check.

On September 04 2014 13:34 gobbledydook wrote:


FUCK NO

that's just asking to get souped. The angels cannot communicate with the town, but the witches in angel QT can still speak in witch QT. so if you claim in angel qt you are just informing scum who you are, making it easier to soup?

On September 04 2014 13:41 gobbledydook wrote:


and how would you know? I assumed that witches wouldn't be banned from the witch qt on death.

On September 04 2014 22:59 HaruRH wrote:
Btw, anyone who townreads me on d1 are scum. Literally all my games came out as such.
Or they are trying to hardpush me.

On September 04 2014 22:59 HaruRH wrote:
Btw, anyone who townreads me on d1 are scum. Literally all my games came out as such.
Or they are trying to hardpush me.

On September 04 2014 23:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
what changed your mind about my scummyness?
also vote sloosh!

On September 04 2014 14:42 slOosh wrote:

Oh ... I guess I misunderstood. I think the setup discussion is townish, and I'm reading gobbleygook and sylencia town for their setup discussion. Not null, but town. It looks like they want to figure out what's best for town with regards to how we apply blue actions. I'm not bothered by the lack of substantive reads at this point, since the day just started. On that note, they are trying to get something in thread going instead of just sitting back and waiting.

Do you read the setup talk null? If so, what about gobbleygook do you read town?

On September 05 2014 00:13 Oatsmaster wrote:
How many games have you seen people with good reads rather than good players die to mafia kills?
As mafia, do you target people who are right or people who are good?

On September 05 2014 00:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
That post felt really bad from a momentum perspective.
You started off tentatively then point 2 is pretty contradictory, point 3 a lotta "I think". and then the last part is really confident.

Not consistent man.

On September 04 2014 14:50 ritoky wrote:


i think talking about "optimal play" and the setup is an easy thing to do as either alignment and appear to be contributing. i also don't really think it yields much alignment indicative information unless someone is quite obviously intentionally feeding a bad line of play to everyone else. something which i would like to believe almost everyone who plays on these forums would be smart enough not to do as mafia. but i have seen and done a lot of stupid stuff so i guess nothing is outside of the realm of possibility.

i think syl is scummy right now because all he has talked about is setup, when challenged he got whiny and defensive, and he claimed to not have time and spent what he had in defense rather than actually trying to find scum in any way.

conversely, gobble faced basically the exact same challenges and just plodded on ahead. plus i liked his vehement stance against robik's suggestion to mass claim in angel thread. if he were mafia i don't think he would come out with that strong of a sentiment against it that quickly.

On September 04 2014 15:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Don't talk about setup. You can only help scum.
Don't claim unless i tell you to.

Period.

On September 04 2014 15:53 geript wrote:
I don't really have any solid townreads yet. It's really sad. Plus there's too many people on my too lynch list. Gun to my head Koshi; he's not as happy and fun as I usually think of him. But there's an odd towny air to him.

On September 04 2014 16:08 geript wrote:

This is what I was talking about.

On September 05 2014 00:37 gobbledydook wrote:


didn't you do this sort of fakeclaim in noir mini that screwed the whole town over.

On September 05 2014 00:45 Oatsmaster wrote:

???

hes saying his reads?

##unvote
##vote Koshi

On September 05 2014 00:54 gobbledydook wrote:


It seems you don't like how my reads are presented. You are entitled to your opinion. And I don't care.

On September 04 2014 21:28 Oatsmaster wrote:

Not true.

Sloosh is just mucking about asking weirdass questions that still hasnt lead to anything.
How is him saying that nothing more can be discussed about setup and then encouraging discussion about setup a good thing???
Where am I cherry picking instead of not bothering to post irrelevant nonsense?


Why is calling someone scum without reasoning objectively scummy? I explained it eventually.
Do you disagree with my read on Koshi?
gobble, what do you read someone like him?

On September 05 2014 01:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
im dying here robik.
dying of laughter.

On September 05 2014 01:19 slOosh wrote:

There are things you can do in this setup to gain an advantage that aren't necessarily breaking the setup. For instance, in Neat & Tidy you could have suggested possible vig shots, and it would be good advice even though it doesn't break anything. Same here - from what I see gobbleygook and Sylencia discussed how the town roles could be best used. Regardless of the objective quality of their plans, it's their efforts in trying to help town through setup means that I'm reading townish.

From Ver's How to Improve Analysis

I'm not promoting setup talk in the sense of "hey I'm pretty sure there's a way to break this setup let's do that". But I'm not against setup talk in the sense of "oh I can get some reads on these people doing setup talk". Which is where my gobbleygook and Sylencia townish reads are stemming from - not that their thoughts help break the setup, but the way that they contribute their thoughts look like they are trying to help town.

Now notice this. I've called these two people townish several times over now. Here's a good place for discussion. If you think these guys are scum, let us know! And don't just say "I think they are scum". Compile the posts that stick out the most and present them. If you want, to me specifically. That way I am put into a position where I am responsible for my stance. If you think I'm scum making up easy town reads, show that they should actually be scum reads and that I'm making up fluff.

On September 05 2014 01:32 slOosh wrote:
Sure thing Robik, just clarifying questions people have about me and setup stuffs.


What's wrong with the red part? I think it's very reasonable and I agree with him.

On September 04 2014 22:00 gobbledydook wrote:


He's scum. He had better have a good reason to explain his posting or I'm voting the shit out of him. As I said he has the time to come into the thread to say koshi is scum without any explanation, but doesn't actually bother to do anything constructive. One can only presume he's wasting our time.

On September 04 2014 22:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Robert is town.
geript is town.
Koshi is likely town.
yamato town.
Oats is town (no Robert you are wrong).
Sloosh town.

Sylencia mafia.

ritoky town.

Bitches cannot read scum QT unless Palmar changed the original rules which would be dumb.

I'll retract from my Sloosh read.

Explain the bolded. They gave bad advice and/or didn't read the setup and certainly didn't help finding mafia.
Also explain how setup discussion is townish? If there was a way to break the setup this setup would not exist. You can't gain anything if you discuss the setup before D3.

I am not surprised geript's reads are the opposite of mine....

##DeadlineVote: Sylencia
##Vote for bearer of the Holy Grail: geript

On September 05 2014 01:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
If it's a scum slip then he's scum right? So what's with the "if rain flips scum".

Sloosh, give us a breakdown of your current reads and how your questions helped you achieve those reads.

On September 04 2014 22:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not surprised geript's reads are the opposite of mine....

On September 04 2014 23:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The only thing you have talked about is the holy grail discussion which in your conclusion was incedibly dumb.
Yes i think that makes you.. at least not town.
Why should i townread you?

On September 05 2014 02:01 Koshi wrote:

It's the ... of disappointment. Which fits because he reads geript town.

On September 05 2014 01:58 Damdred wrote:


Fraid so, just got my new phone so I can post whenever I want now.



One thing right now is that robik says he got a scum read on rayn, but doesn't want to talk about it to avoid pressure? What is that? If you think someone is scum you should press it and try to destroy the scum, its robik why is he scared of pressure? And not sure why if rayn is scum it would make him nervous of ger

From rereading filters so far and catching up I like gooble, asks some good questions and it seems to have some follow up.

And Koshi is not his normal self it feels like. I know he says hes tring a new non mass posting thing, but pregame he said he would be posting lots and a lot of his posts lack a ton of content and some of his reads lack some explanations. Asks a lot of questions without drawing conclusions once asked it seems.

On September 05 2014 03:16 geript wrote:

Not going to happen. I think you're mafia but I think at least one of the reads on you or gobbly is wrong.

On September 05 2014 03:21 geript wrote:

Not really true at all: Oats mafia, You mafia, Gobble Mafia, Harurh mafia. Ritoky town. Sloosh Town, Sylencia feels like town but that's the weekest. I'll add Koshi town. Rayn not sure yet I need to get as to why he's at where he's at on a few people.

On September 05 2014 03:59 ritoky wrote:


i thought he was town

On September 05 2014 03:23 IAmRobik wrote:

"I'll add Koshi town" even though he town reads my 3 biggest mafia suspects. OOOOOKAY BRAH

On September 05 2014 04:38 geript wrote:
Perhaps one day you'll reach god tier Robik. Until then you can keep on wondering why my reads are so much better.

On September 05 2014 03:21 geript wrote:
Rayn not sure yet I need to get as to why he's at where he's at on a few people.

On September 05 2014 03:14 geript wrote:

I've been thinking about this, but can you explain the Oats, Gobbly and Robik reads.

On September 05 2014 06:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:

because i have my reasons which noone besides geript would never understand.

On September 05 2014 08:02 ritoky wrote:


i think you're town, but your reads are sporadic through your posts; not centralized so sometimes they are hard for me to remember.

from what i remember you have:
me - town jesus
gobble - town
rayn - witch
geript - witch

can you fill in the places where i missed please? don't really have the ability/time to filter dive for them right now.

On September 05 2014 09:12 slOosh wrote:
I've given a total list of my reads few pages back. geript ticks up because of that post I pointed out and how strange it is.

I know Damdred is a totally capable player able to invest himself into a game, and yet 24 hours in all Damdred has been able to do this game is a couple of "I feel iffy" posts, one only because I prompted it.

On September 05 2014 08:47 ritoky wrote:


gonna be afk for a while now, my super bowl champion seattle seahawks are playing soon and i have guests.

could you explain what moved you from town early to not sure now?

On September 05 2014 13:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:


Here's where gobbly comments on Koshi's listpost.
Now why is this post (in his mind) any worse than this:

The red part. At the time that was one of my only posts in the game. Koshi had posted way more than i had.
If gobbly thinks Koshi's listpost was bad my post here should be bad aswell. He never comments on anything on that post.

I do not see a logical thought process from him regarding these two posts.

On September 05 2014 13:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yeah, earlier he didn't care a dude had a scumread on him, still voted for the grail.

However, is it weird weird or scum weird.

Leaning the first weird for now

On September 05 2014 13:52 ritoky wrote:
also robik, whats your thoughts on koshi? i think he is one of the few people i don't remember you talking about and he is also at the center of your scum read on geript.

On September 05 2014 13:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:

explain it to me like i am five.
i have no idea what you are talking about.

On September 05 2014 22:09 gobbledydook wrote:


Okay, why lonemeow/haru

On September 06 2014 00:01 yamato77 wrote:
Robik what do you think of rayn and sloosh?

On September 05 2014 22:43 Sylencia wrote:


Just accept I think you're town because I put myself in your shoes. I can only go so deep into my logic without saying too much.

On September 05 2014 22:54 Sylencia wrote:
Also ritoky: I haven't mentioned geript at all because nothing in his filter really stands out. His posts about his reads are mostly meta/psychological and there's nothing concrete. This is worrying (for me), but at the moment I'm fine with sitting back and watching geript further.

On September 06 2014 01:17 yamato77 wrote:
Koshi and rayn are pretty obvious. For two strong town players, they sure are sucking it up in the early game. Rayn called me town for no reason in his list post and has ignored interacting with me. Koshi called me a lurker and has done the same. Sloosh is scum because his play is too reserved and careful. As town he has bolder reads and better interaction with the thread.

On September 06 2014 01:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Because geript knows why post the shit i do.
He can actually read me...

On September 06 2014 01:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yamato robert is never going to be mafia this game don't be fucking stupid.

On September 06 2014 01:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:

so far i am leaning on terrible.

On September 06 2014 02:03 geript wrote:

Nah, I still don't like him. But there's not a reason for me to fight with him if he's town. I'd rather not pull a TJ.

On September 06 2014 02:20 yamato77 wrote:
It's a good observation. Mafia wouldn't make that observation.

All the new players think I'm an ultra-lurker so their statements mean nothing.

On September 06 2014 02:34 geript wrote:
That is a pretty good read. I like that reasoning a lot.

On September 06 2014 03:37 LoneMeow wrote:
IAmRobik much town.
Very grail.

##HolyGrail: IAmRobik



Can you explain why? I just don't see it. Still my top scum read.

Things like this don't help:


Like, is he trying to call geript scum here or what?

On September 06 2014 03:52 slOosh wrote:
Everyone, without checking Damdred's filter, can you picture any of his reads in your mind? Do you remember anything he said that stuck out to you, as either a good point or a very scummy point? Probably not, because he has been flying under the radar, and popped up only when I made a case on him. Not only that, he still lacks direction. Is he trying to convince me I'm scum? Is he trying to convince me that he is town? Or is he just saying things for the sake of saying things?

I rest my case.

P.s. if you think I'm scum, then comment on my Damdred read. Either it's me bussing a scum buddy or me making stuff up about a townie, in either case you want to comment on it.

On September 06 2014 04:37 yamato77 wrote:
Why do people want to lynch damdred?

On September 06 2014 05:48 slOosh wrote:
Grail is nowhere as important as landing a proper lynch. I recommend focusing on getting the right lynch. Whether that be me or Damdred or whoever you think is most chance of flipping scum, I'd focus on that.

I'll be here if anyone wants to defend Damdred's lynch.

On September 06 2014 06:04 ritoky wrote:


apparently not being here for life reasons is falling off, my bad. btw did you know the seahawks are the best team in football? FACT.

On September 06 2014 06:41 ritoky wrote:


This is worrisome phrasing to me. It's the first worrisome thing I have really seen from robik all game. I know you had at least a leaning town read on syl up until now, but this phrasing sounds almost like you would disregard any pre-vote read on anyone who votes you for grail. Sounds almost desperate to want it. Mind you as of right now, if I was not a viable alternative my vote would be on you; but the phrasing....

On September 06 2014 06:42 Damdred wrote:
I won't fight about other games in this thread, but mission started before this game and I did go mia around the time this one started and my cell was up in cell, and around the time this game started. So don't try to compare whole game filters please when they started different times.

I'll put the effort in to give reads on everyone soon as I get off work. I think I'll probably vote for rob for grail if he votes for me or not his responses and reasonings at this point sound town

On September 06 2014 06:49 ritoky wrote:


you not gonna criticize him either for wanting to grail someone who would use it (currently) to lynch him?

On September 06 2014 07:11 geript wrote:

Well you've claimed to be a townie so let's follow this strategy and lynch you.

On September 06 2014 23:42 yamato77 wrote:
I really do want people to seriously consider giving it to me

On September 07 2014 00:46 Sylencia wrote:
Guys, let's not be lazy and select the person with less activity than the rest. It's pretty much set up to be an easy mislynch if he's town and there's just not enough to go off instead of others.

If I was to select someone for lynching it's geript. He's actually done very little to help town, beyond the first 12 hours of the game, he's been finding people safe over people who are scummy. Process of elimination probabyl works at a lower player count, but to try pull off 13 man PoE isn't something I'd see anyone trying to do.

On September 07 2014 00:50 Sylencia wrote:
Give it at least another day Robik, silent night at least means he can catch up (properly) and if he doesn't do anything tomorrow then I'd consider it. I just think there's bigger fish to fry.

On September 07 2014 01:01 Damdred wrote:


Yea look at it from my position rob. I get in the thread make a few posts start reading, koshis here so I ask him the questions I have jotted down from my thread. Since I got up this morning everyone has jumped on me basically and started voting me and yelled at me to do more. You guys have been pricks to me since i re-entered the thread, you are going to be pissed at me come end of game, but ill still protect you tonight cause I like winning games instead of losing them.

So yea, you guys want actual content from people do not be pricks because you do not think they are doing enough, all of my posts i directed at sloosh he basically ignored and my lines of communication were shut. I posted my suspicions on people got one or two replies and then boom case on me everyone jumps on me. So yea good job town

On September 07 2014 01:34 HaruRH wrote:


Please find a game where haru is moderately useful in d1
I am already kind for being at all useful today.

On September 07 2014 02:08 ritoky wrote:
so can anyone explain to me their town read on oats, cuz i am not very fond of the dude anymore, but no one else seems to be.

i mean the guy placed a late throwaway vote on himself for grail which doesn't help us get any info in the future at all, i looked at his filter and outside of his tunnel on koshi for a feeling he had early game he basically has 0 clearly stated reads, and he has just been walkin around accusing people.

On September 07 2014 02:28 yamato77 wrote:
oats is town

On September 07 2014 02:53 geript wrote:
FWIW, other than meta reasons, one of the things that's really bothered me about Robik is that his reads are so ephemeral. In the last game I was in (which I was scum), I didn't really cared what I said and I just spewed a bunch of random bullshit and never really bothered to figure out how much of it was right. It was just do stuff to look active and towny and stuff that sounds good. That's exactly how Robik's been playing. No read lasts, everything changes and it often changes so fast and so often that it's really hard to nail down where he actually stands "this second." I don't get why Rayn, Yam, and Koshi are all reading him town.

On September 07 2014 03:52 yamato77 wrote:

rayn's voting patterns and reads make absolutely no sense

that's not entirely unusual, but he's also too meek for town rayn

basically he's just trying to get an easy mislynch and not really trying to find mafia at all

On September 07 2014 04:40 yamato77 wrote:
you owe me anyway robik

your play in the other game is a travesty

On September 07 2014 04:43 yamato77 wrote:
fuckin shit

I had this feeling about you

On September 07 2014 05:00 Koshi wrote:
I really hope it is a yamato/oats scumteam. That would be so fucking perfect.

On September 07 2014 05:02 geript wrote:
I'm quite sure that Robik needs to die today for town to win.

On September 07 2014 05:02 geript wrote:

Nah, you'd just be misreading oats for the second game in a row. Nothing new there.

On September 07 2014 05:40 geript wrote:

Lulz. God mode Robik. Please enlighten the class with your great reads. Please explain for posterity how I could even potentially be scum.

See that is why no one respects you or your reads. You get sand up your cunt when people call you bad. Then you spew out a bunch of bad reads and act like a dumbass. Either way you need to die. You're either the worst town ever or you're mafia.

On September 07 2014 05:47 geript wrote:

There's not a single "substance" read in your entire 11 page filter. Hell, that's probably why you jizzed yourself so hard when you saw the yamato read because it's something that you've never thought of or seen before. Check yourself before you wreck yourself homeboy.

On September 07 2014 05:55 geript wrote:

You've been talking about giving no substance. Define the term yourself. Here's a hint: lots of people have called your reads trash... there's a reason for it. It's because your "reads" are really just you spewing random shit and ends up being no substance whatsoever.

On September 07 2014 05:57 HaruRH wrote:
Robik do you enjoy playing this game?

On September 07 2014 06:02 Koshi wrote:
Robik. Don't fuck up this game when you get the grail. THX.

On September 08 2014 12:05 geript wrote:

Clearly you are the most important person in this game. This whole game revolves around you.

On September 08 2014 12:53 ritoky wrote:


what precisely leads you to this conclusion?

also what do you think of the judge going completely against the candidates that the majority of town wanted?