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slOosh
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ritoky
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slOosh
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geript
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On September 11 2014 04:02 slOosh wrote: Order matters from my perspective because I need to figure out if you are town or scum in the way you are trying to deflect the lynch. Could you tell me your strongest scum read sans Syl regardless of viability of lynch? Or could you explain to me why Syl is scum and why we should all be lynching him. Order doesn't matter. It's silly to think that at this point. It's essentially a mylo situation here because of soup. Perhaps you should realize that my current view is Oats/Harurh/Damdred. If you think I'm mafia, find a single game where as mafia I have been able to make 10 pages by after 72 hours. You won't find a single one. I can't keep up that activity as mafia. I can do it for 24 or so but past that I've never done it. | ||
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slOosh
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On September 11 2014 04:09 geript wrote: Order doesn't matter. It's silly to think that at this point. It's essentially a mylo situation here because of soup. Perhaps you should realize that my current view is Oats/Harurh/Damdred. If you think I'm mafia, find a single game where as mafia I have been able to make 10 pages by after 72 hours. You won't find a single one. I can't keep up that activity as mafia. I can do it for 24 or so but past that I've never done it. Order in the sense of which one of them are you most confident of your scum read on. I mean who knows scum's soup skill level and more so if it is those three since it seems they are all playing this setup for first time. I'll be checking your filter in meantime. Do you still think Syl is mafia? | ||
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slOosh
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Basically Robik and rayn (whom I recently trust) both had issues with you so I need discussions to trust you now. | ||
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slOosh
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On September 11 2014 01:27 yamato77 wrote: Sylencia did have an amazingly bad fakeclaim in Desert, no? yam buddy I need you to drop some wisdom up in here. What's your current stance on Syl? Which of geript's lynch list do you most prefer and why? | ||
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ritoky
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He pre-claims his claim as a threat to town, testing the waters; then he claims because geript of all people tells him "claim or die" and he feels like this is substantive pressure? Geript is someone he HAS A SCUM READ ON. WHY THE HELL WOULD HE FEEL PRESSURED WHEN HIS SCUM READ CALLS HIM SCUM????? Reeks of nervousness and scum not knowing how to handle pressure. He also takes a very very long time to say he confirms his claim even after everyone assumes it. Then he basically treats it like a get out of jail free card, and all of his posts after he has basically bought a no lynch for today are what? Defensive and not scum hunting in the slightest. Everyone except 2 people basically think he is confirmed town and yet what does he do with this license? NOTHING TO HELP TOWN. Now that's just from the context, let's look at the claim itself and how bad it is. 1st, acolyte is one of the easiest roles in the game to claim as mafia. most of the roles are near impossible to claim, acolyte is not. so what do you hope to accomplish from this claim? like what is the goal here? i don't know. assuming the witches didn't target the martyr last night (which is highly likely given the kill description), then they know someone in the game's role. revealing you are acolyte if it is true gives them a 2nd confirmed role, and SUBSTANTIAL INFORMATION toward who the inquisitor is (if you're buying that "i didn't read who the inquis is in my pm crap then you are the most naive town ever). Which means, that if he is indeed town, all his claim did was give mafia huge information at the expense of him not getting pressured and maybe lynched. Like, it wasn't even the end of the day or anything. We are talking nearly 48 hours left in the day he feels this pressure. Why the hell wouldn't he just try and project town?????? Essentially if we miss on this lynch, and he is also town, we are looking at him giving them a 4 for 0 and if we are lucky only a 3 for 0. If we hit mafia we are looking at a 3 for 1 or a 4 for 1, both of those are horrible outcomes. And it's not like he doesn't understand the setup, it was all he talked about early on and his most recent post was about the mechanics of souping....soooo he GETS THIS AND STILL DID THIS. That play is too bad to come from a town mindset. I cannot believe it does. Think about this nightmare scenario too (that we could very well be in). That koshi was the acolyte and robik was town. So we are already down 3 townies right now. We miss on our lynch, 4th goes down. The witches soup 3 people tonight. 7 townies down. Game is over. If he is mafia making this play it buys them a day. Let's assume syl is mafia making this claim, and koshi was acolyte now (since the more i read i have begun to doubt my koshi was mafia read) and i still think robik was town, so we are down 3 town right now. if we miss on the lynch, then we are down 4. let's say they soup 2. we are down 6 town and in final 7 with 3 witches. do you see how great that scenario is for a claim? i think geript is town, this is a miss. haru, dam, syl is where we should be. | ||
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Quick thoughts on Oats for sake of completeness? | ||
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ritoky
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On September 11 2014 04:45 slOosh wrote: As an aside, also I keep pushing it off b/c stuff comes up, but I don't think the points you made against Koshi were too valid. First point is a phrasing thing I think you are reading into, second is letting people do legwork could be a town playstyle (like yam did in Storm 2), wanting lynch could be town (for my reason of wanting lynch) and something else but it's not too important right now. Quick thoughts on Oats for sake of completeness? oats has been in the tunnel hard like i was in order mafia, but then he suddenly came out of it right now. not really sure what i make of that right now. he is probably town because he had the exact same thoughts as me and posted them simultaneously early in day 1. but if i am wrong on 1 of dam/syl/haru, then oats would be one of the people i would consider putting in as a replacement. | ||
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geript
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On September 11 2014 04:27 slOosh wrote: Also, timewise this game is like D3, you hit 10 pages after a week of play. I'll concede that several of your town games have many many posts, but your scum games also had decent sized filter (9 pages for the Game, ended D5, 7 For PTP Demon's Run lynched D3). So it's not as clear cut as that. Basically Robik and rayn (whom I recently trust) both had issues with you so I need discussions to trust you now. There's a big difference when I'm consistently hitting 10-12 in 2-3 days in my town games and getting 6-7 maybe in 3 days in my scum games. In the Game I had a stacked mafia team which carried the fuck out of me despite me trying to bus the fuck out of my team. You'd be surprised how good filter length is as a judge of my alignment. | ||
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geript
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On September 11 2014 04:19 slOosh wrote: Order in the sense of which one of them are you most confident of your scum read on. I mean who knows scum's soup skill level and more so if it is those three since it seems they are all playing this setup for first time. I'll be checking your filter in meantime. Do you still think Syl is mafia? My first would be Harurh, second would be Damdred. | ||
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