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IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
September 08 2014 16:14 GMT
#1081
I don't know what to make of you geript. When someone is so terrible as both town and mafia, it's hard to conclude on what role they are when they are playing trash yet again in a game.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 08 2014 16:14 GMT
#1082
On September 09 2014 01:11 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2014 01:10 geript wrote:
On September 09 2014 01:08 IAmRobik wrote:
On September 09 2014 00:49 geript wrote:
Robik, HaruRH, Damdred
Game solved.

Then vote me you lil bitch.

I don't care which of you three gets lynched today.

You should care, for the exact reason that I gave.

If you're going to call me mafia, I want a real fucking accusation. Then I'm gonna take your meta cock and shove it in your ear.

Nah. Because even if that's true I'd only have to convince one of two or three people. Votes are rather irrelevant in this setup.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
September 08 2014 16:19 GMT
#1083
if votes are irrelevant, why are you spending 5 pages bitching about me having the grail? You're being a huge fucking hypocrite.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 08 2014 16:34 GMT
#1084
On September 09 2014 01:19 IAmRobik wrote:
if votes are irrelevant, why are you spending 5 pages bitching about me having the grail? You're being a huge fucking hypocrite.

Because shit like that goes to your head and makes you think you have a big peepee.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
September 08 2014 16:41 GMT
#1085
On September 09 2014 01:34 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2014 01:19 IAmRobik wrote:
if votes are irrelevant, why are you spending 5 pages bitching about me having the grail? You're being a huge fucking hypocrite.

Because shit like that goes to your head and makes you think you have a big peepee.

That doesn't make me scum
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
September 08 2014 16:41 GMT
#1086
In fact, that statement makes me town. I wouldn't need a "big peepee" as scum.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
September 08 2014 16:47 GMT
#1087
Oh yeah, forgot to mention:

On September 06 2014 02:32 yamato77 wrote:
Gobble gives sylencia a reason to call me mafia. Sylencia, who has called me null, observes that the reason used to call me mafia is unsubstantiated by my previous play, despite how easy it is to just call me mafia. It's a good read, even if the conclusion is null.


On September 08 2014 14:39 Sylencia wrote:
yam would you consider Haru town for the fact he didn't play to the fact he could've fake CC'd Martyr as scum since he caught on to the fact I suspected he was the martyr? It would've had a fair chance of working ocnsidering it was goobly who was the actual martyr and a lot of us were quite suspicious of goobly until he dropped the role bomb


I wrote my post pretty much with yamato's post in mind, and yet I get completely different results from geript:

On September 06 2014 02:34 geript wrote:
That is a pretty good read. I like that reasoning a lot.


On September 08 2014 15:52 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2014 14:39 Sylencia wrote:
yam would you consider Haru town for the fact he didn't play to the fact he could've fake CC'd Martyr as scum since he caught on to the fact I suspected he was the martyr? It would've had a fair chance of working ocnsidering it was goobly who was the actual martyr and a lot of us were quite suspicious of goobly until he dropped the role bomb

This is a super convoluted argument. I'm ignoring yam's read on you from now on.


Other than the fact my thought process was actually incorrect (which geript doesn't actually comment on), both follow the same train of thought. One player was in the position to make an 'easy' play (ignore the incorrect logic for a second). They don't, and instead choose to go with their honest thoughts about the situation. Thus, this player should be townie.

So how is it that in one case it's seen as really good logic, and in the other case it's seen as convoluted logic? As far as I can tell, this is a pretty easy way for geript to slowly move targets towards me. If he had commented on the incorrect logic around the time yamato posted about it and I realised my error, sure things would probably be different but he didn't consider it and just gave a weird reaction given the previous case.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 08 2014 16:48 GMT
#1088
i don't see many opinions on koshi up in dis bitch. blood pressure rising.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 08 2014 16:50 GMT
#1089
On September 08 2014 15:50 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2014 14:43 ritoky wrote:
EVERYONE needs to give an opinion on this since it was NOT something decided collectively. IF YOU DO NOT I WILL PUSH YOU WITH THE WRATH OF TOWN JESUS:

Koshi: hit or miss? why?

Waste of time


right, because let's not consider that it's a no-flip game, so it's more like video mafia than regular forum mafia where speculation on the alignment of the dead is valuable information. that aside, there is NO VOTING RECORD. this was decided by 1 person, so we have no record of people's thoughts on the matter. why the hell do you want less information in the thread?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 08 2014 16:50 GMT
#1090
On September 09 2014 01:41 IAmRobik wrote:
In fact, that statement makes me town. I wouldn't need a "big peepee" as scum.

False.

But please continue on explaining how not reading filters and waiting for other people to make cases makes you town. Also please expound on the numerous ways in which you have acted which in no way you could have done as mafia. Also, please explain how I have at least 4 games experience with you doing this exact thing and having done it as mafia but of course you're town this game. You see, I'm not arguing with you because there's no point. Any three of you will do. I don't care if we lynch the prick with 2 votes, the prick who's done nothing but bitch about how people who are calling him mafia are wrong, or the prick who's just sliding by. Makes no difference.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 08 2014 16:53 GMT
#1091
On September 09 2014 01:50 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2014 15:50 geript wrote:
On September 08 2014 14:43 ritoky wrote:
EVERYONE needs to give an opinion on this since it was NOT something decided collectively. IF YOU DO NOT I WILL PUSH YOU WITH THE WRATH OF TOWN JESUS:

Koshi: hit or miss? why?

Waste of time


right, because let's not consider that it's a no-flip game, so it's more like video mafia than regular forum mafia where speculation on the alignment of the dead is valuable information. that aside, there is NO VOTING RECORD. this was decided by 1 person, so we have no record of people's thoughts on the matter. why the hell do you want less information in the thread?

In video mafia it's also 100% correct to not speculate on the dead. It's literally worthless information there too.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
September 08 2014 16:53 GMT
#1092
Haru might actually be mafia
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 08 2014 16:56 GMT
#1093
On September 09 2014 01:47 Sylencia wrote:
Oh yeah, forgot to mention:

Show nested quote +
On September 06 2014 02:32 yamato77 wrote:
Gobble gives sylencia a reason to call me mafia. Sylencia, who has called me null, observes that the reason used to call me mafia is unsubstantiated by my previous play, despite how easy it is to just call me mafia. It's a good read, even if the conclusion is null.


Show nested quote +
On September 08 2014 14:39 Sylencia wrote:
yam would you consider Haru town for the fact he didn't play to the fact he could've fake CC'd Martyr as scum since he caught on to the fact I suspected he was the martyr? It would've had a fair chance of working ocnsidering it was goobly who was the actual martyr and a lot of us were quite suspicious of goobly until he dropped the role bomb


I wrote my post pretty much with yamato's post in mind, and yet I get completely different results from geript:

Show nested quote +
On September 06 2014 02:34 geript wrote:
That is a pretty good read. I like that reasoning a lot.


Show nested quote +
On September 08 2014 15:52 geript wrote:
On September 08 2014 14:39 Sylencia wrote:
yam would you consider Haru town for the fact he didn't play to the fact he could've fake CC'd Martyr as scum since he caught on to the fact I suspected he was the martyr? It would've had a fair chance of working ocnsidering it was goobly who was the actual martyr and a lot of us were quite suspicious of goobly until he dropped the role bomb

This is a super convoluted argument. I'm ignoring yam's read on you from now on.


Other than the fact my thought process was actually incorrect (which geript doesn't actually comment on), both follow the same train of thought. One player was in the position to make an 'easy' play (ignore the incorrect logic for a second). They don't, and instead choose to go with their honest thoughts about the situation. Thus, this player should be townie.

So how is it that in one case it's seen as really good logic, and in the other case it's seen as convoluted logic? As far as I can tell, this is a pretty easy way for geript to slowly move targets towards me. If he had commented on the incorrect logic around the time yamato posted about it and I realised my error, sure things would probably be different but he didn't consider it and just gave a weird reaction given the previous case.

Because in one case, it's a matter of using logic and applying it really well. In the other case, it's a matter of trying to find a way to call someone town in potentially the strangest loop of logic I've ever seen. "HaruRH is town because he didn't counterclaim the martyr when he could have because few people believed goobly." I've rarely seen town think up that line. I have seen scum make a round about path like that reasonably often. So yah, Good read based on strong logic versus trying to make shit up based on needing to take a dump in the thread.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 08 2014 16:57 GMT
#1094
On September 09 2014 01:53 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2014 01:50 ritoky wrote:
On September 08 2014 15:50 geript wrote:
On September 08 2014 14:43 ritoky wrote:
EVERYONE needs to give an opinion on this since it was NOT something decided collectively. IF YOU DO NOT I WILL PUSH YOU WITH THE WRATH OF TOWN JESUS:

Koshi: hit or miss? why?

Waste of time


right, because let's not consider that it's a no-flip game, so it's more like video mafia than regular forum mafia where speculation on the alignment of the dead is valuable information. that aside, there is NO VOTING RECORD. this was decided by 1 person, so we have no record of people's thoughts on the matter. why the hell do you want less information in the thread?

In video mafia it's also 100% correct to not speculate on the dead. It's literally worthless information there too.


i would rather not sit around and debate a difference in process with you, but needless to say, you're wrong.

also i could care less if you think it's worthless. respond to it anyway.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 08 2014 16:58 GMT
#1095
On September 09 2014 01:53 IAmRobik wrote:
Haru might actually be mafia

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IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
September 08 2014 16:59 GMT
#1096
On September 09 2014 01:58 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2014 01:53 IAmRobik wrote:
Haru might actually be mafia

[image loading]

I somehow skipped page 52 or 53. One of those pages where he's shitting on your case against him/sylencia. Some of it feels "off"
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
September 08 2014 17:01 GMT
#1097
On September 08 2014 20:04 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 16:04 geript wrote:
On September 04 2014 15:55 ritoky wrote:
On September 04 2014 15:53 geript wrote:
I don't really have any solid townreads yet. It's really sad. Plus there's too many people on my too lynch list. Gun to my head Koshi; he's not as happy and fun as I usually think of him. But there's an odd towny air to him.


who, other than non-posters, is on your "too lynch list"?

Oats is like really not town oTsy to me. Ps I am the oats whisperer (sssshhhh don't tell Austin)
Gobbly I'm pretty solid on. He's really thread policy which he tends to be in his scum games. Plus he's not really paranoid and aggressive and analyzing things which is what I saw in his town games. But he's pretty new so I'm a little hesitant there.
Yamato for funsies. But seriously if he doesn't try to add something useful.
HaruRH I get a really weird vibe from. I haven't played with him much but I got the feels from him early on.
Robik. He's done a lot of things I've seen from his mafia play. He hasn't hard called me town yet. He's been schmoozing and generally unproductive (in an unproductive way instead of in a town Robik way).


Slowish I'm guessing is town. Sylencia might be too based on attitude. That's essentially where I'm at.


Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 11:53 geript wrote:
Town Princess Newbie
TownWorld Heavyweight

Mafia Noir
Mafia Detention


If you look in his town games, he actually comes out with his own opinions. He forces stuff that he thinks because he finds it important. He even comes up with some good reads (e.g. his HaruRH read in Noir). I'm not really seeing that at all this game from him.

If you look in his scum games, he mostly comments on the thread rather than forcing is own thoughts and things onto people. By this I mean, he talks about things that are going on in the thread, being said, being talked about etc. He rarely forces his viewpoint and doesn't really "stick himself out there."

That's the major difference that I see. The problem is that first meta is easy to use incorrectly and second that newer players change much faster which makes meta arguments much worse. In this game, I see far, far more of the latter. He's not really pushing his opinion on anything or anyone in a strong way. That's specifically why I think he's mafia. My hesitation is that I don't have a great record using meta and he's new which makes him harder to read.


Basically the 2 things I highlighted shows how he progressively hard scumreads gobble at early d1 and then relieve some pressure off him by stating how he was newbie and shit. Horribly twisting 'meta' reads to his advantage.


This goes against haru's whole argument for why geript is scum
Twisting meta to call a town town, is not using meta to geript's advantage if geript is scum.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 08 2014 17:29 GMT
#1098
Can you tell me why you think its off Robik?

Ger could you tell me why you picked teh scum team you did?
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
September 08 2014 17:31 GMT
#1099
On September 09 2014 02:29 Damdred wrote:
Can you tell me why you think its off Robik?

Ger could you tell me why you picked teh scum team you did?

I thought it was off because he made a grammatical error in verb tense, but then I realized he was from singapore, so I didn't bring it up in a subsequent post that I was going to make.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 08 2014 17:33 GMT
#1100
On September 09 2014 02:29 Damdred wrote:
Can you tell me why you think its off Robik?

Ger could you tell me why you picked teh scum team you did?


koshi, hit or miss? NOW
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
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