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On September 12 2014 14:58 geript wrote: I'm not even sure why you thought that him red checking you forces you to claim. My role is pretty useless for the next 2 days anyway (because i am 10p% sure ritoky is the scum here and lynching him would make my exorcist role be useless for 2 days since it will always return (you cannot kill this night)). I'll rather lynch a mafia and get killed myself.
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Geript (2) - Sylencia, HaruRH Sylencia (2) - ritoky, raynpelikoneet Damdred (3) - gobbeldydook, Koshi, geript Koshi (1) - Oatsmaster Raynpelikoneet (5) - Yamato77, Damdred, IAmRobik, SloOsh,gobbledydook
Now that i was forced to claim, i can finally reveal the results of my exorcist. I couldn't kill. It meant that either oats or koshi was scum (i bolded them).
Next, i am 10000000% sure ritoky is mafia. I am willing to bet anything in this earth. And because he also tried to call out damdred, i am willing to townread him for a bit.
There. Game solved. Lynch ritoky today and geript tomorrow and we win. I was right about ritoky.
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Rayn, i am so fucking sure ritoky is mafia. Even more sure than if i copchecked him. I am also pretty fucking sure geript is scum. More sure than onegu in N&T. You literally have to trust me once more. If i am wrong, i can let you all ignore me in all future mafia games. I am that sure i got 2 scum here.
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This is not how it works rayn.
Exorcist: If a member of town has been lynched on two consecutive days, you can kill a player of your choosing the following night.
I can't shoot unless 2 towns are lynched consecutively. This means unless we lynch a town today, i have a chance to shoot (i was not able to shoot because either oats or koshi OR aots and koshi are mafia) provided oats was town (so oats lynch into a town lynch allows me to shoot). Also, no lynch =/= town lynched.
Also, we ARE in lylo. It is 6 town:2 mafia. Given that they got a role of someone on d1 from gobble's save and my claim, they have 2 soup and 1 kill at night. A mislynch here will lead to 2 town:2 mafia.
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Ok, so maybe i did fuck up and cclaimd for no reason at all. But this is good because angels know not to protect me and my exorcist role tells me one of koshi or oats is mafia, so we can stop guessing if we did actually hit mafia d1/2 and concentrate on finding the last mafia (which is geript).
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On September 13 2014 01:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2014 23:39 HaruRH wrote:This is not how it works rayn. Exorcist: If a member of town has been lynched on two consecutive days, you can kill a player of your choosing the following night. I can't shoot unless 2 towns are lynched consecutively. This means unless we lynch a town today, i have a chance to shoot (i was not able to shoot because either oats or koshi OR aots and koshi are mafia) provided oats was town (so oats lynch into a town lynch allows me to shoot). Also, no lynch =/= town lynched. Also, we ARE in lylo. It is 6 town:2 mafia. Given that they got a role of someone on d1 from gobble's save and my claim, they have 2 soup and 1 kill at night. A mislynch here will lead to 2 town:2 mafia. I thought you claimed Judge. FTR Koshi's alignment does not matter regarding your role because he was not lynched but shot by the Judge instead.
Read his flip again. He was lynched. LYNCHED.
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On September 07 2014 18:44 Palmar wrote: A Lynch has been selected:
Koshi has been lynched
Also, even if koshi's flip does not count and oats flip is the only flip counted, it doesnt make sense for me to receive a 'not allowed to kill' message. It only means that there wasn't 2 town lynched in a row.
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Rayn. I need you to talk to me now. Tell me who is the last mafia. I will not be around during lylo (or they might just keep me alive since my role is useless for the next 2 days) but just in case, who is your last scum read?
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On September 13 2014 01:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: In case there is only 2 mafia left it's either yamato or geript.
D4 will still be lylo so you must make up your mind on who is the real scum. I am going with geript because at end of d2, he said some scummy stuff. Brb quoting them
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On September 11 2014 04:52 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2014 04:19 slOosh wrote:On September 11 2014 04:09 geript wrote:On September 11 2014 04:02 slOosh wrote: Order matters from my perspective because I need to figure out if you are town or scum in the way you are trying to deflect the lynch. Could you tell me your strongest scum read sans Syl regardless of viability of lynch? Or could you explain to me why Syl is scum and why we should all be lynching him. Order doesn't matter. It's silly to think that at this point. It's essentially a mylo situation here because of soup. Perhaps you should realize that my current view is Oats/Harurh/Damdred. If you think I'm mafia, find a single game where as mafia I have been able to make 10 pages by after 72 hours. You won't find a single one. I can't keep up that activity as mafia. I can do it for 24 or so but past that I've never done it. Order in the sense of which one of them are you most confident of your scum read on. I mean who knows scum's soup skill level and more so if it is those three since it seems they are all playing this setup for first time. I'll be checking your filter in meantime. Do you still think Syl is mafia? My first would be Harurh, second would be Damdred.
On September 11 2014 04:09 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2014 04:02 slOosh wrote: Order matters from my perspective because I need to figure out if you are town or scum in the way you are trying to deflect the lynch. Could you tell me your strongest scum read sans Syl regardless of viability of lynch? Or could you explain to me why Syl is scum and why we should all be lynching him. Order doesn't matter. It's silly to think that at this point. It's essentially a mylo situation here because of soup. Perhaps you should realize that my current view is Oats/Harurh/Damdred. If you think I'm mafia, find a single game where as mafia I have been able to make 10 pages by after 72 hours. You won't find a single one. I can't keep up that activity as mafia. I can do it for 24 or so but past that I've never done it.
"I am the most confident that haru is scum, then damdred" "Lynch order does not matter because it is mylo"
Do you see the big difference in what he have said? Basically, it is scummy because he MUST always go for his most confident lynch. What i gather from his end of d2 discussion is that he was willing to lynch anyone in haru/damdred/oats even if he was more confident in one read over the other. Worse off, who lynches someone he is not as confident in during mylo? That is pure scummery right here.
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On September 13 2014 01:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2014 01:33 HaruRH wrote:On September 13 2014 01:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: In case there is only 2 mafia left it's either yamato or geript. D4 will still be lylo so you must make up your mind on who is the real scum. I am going with geript because at end of d2, he said some scummy stuff. Brb quoting them If we are @ 6-2 it's gonna be 6-1 at night start. 4-1 at day start because you and Damdred will die. It's not LYLO,
Did you forget the initial role they got because gobble protected someone? Palmar have stated that witches will STILL get the role info of the person they targeted even if gobble blocked the kill because of necro. Basically, if witches aimed you but gobble blocked it, they still got your role and still can soup you.
So it is 3-1. Lylo.
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On September 13 2014 01:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yeah that's true. Unless they hit gobble, Sylencia or Oats N1. (the last two are extremely unlike though). Hitting gobble makes some sense.
Hitting gobble made no sense because 1) gobble have to die anyway or we will lynch him 2) they can target someone else and get a role to soup, WHILE having gobble dead.
We have to play on the assumption that their d1 target is still alive, making it lylo. This should be the best plan.
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On September 13 2014 01:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:And if mafia hit yamato or geript it's only a win. 
But they can decide not to soup everyone. They might only soup damdred and i for claiming and may not soup the last guy for an illusion of not being in lylo.
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On September 13 2014 01:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: Well it doesn't make sense to NOT soup two players on N2 in case their N1 target is alive.
Who are the 2 players then? I can see how they were worried that syl may not be an acolyte after all and decided to kill him. Also, given how ritoky have been pushing me, dam and syl on d1, they probably tried to kill others and got a role off someone.
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On September 13 2014 01:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like why would you not kill two players if you can (i mean on N2, N3 makes sense as you said it)? Especially when they hit someone on N1 -- preferrably someone who is on the right track.
In this game where you need the exact role info to soup, they might not have souped them to either : 1) leave them alive for more confusion (aka yamato vs geript) or 2) deemed their role too useless and can leave them alive since they pose threars. For eg, if they got the role of the cop, they would 100% soup them right away. Or if they got my role, they would soup me on d3 so i cannot indirectly disclose how many mafia were left.
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EBWOP: since they pose no threat.
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For eg rayn, as scum, would you either:
Go into a 2-1 lylo with 1 town looking scummy
Or
Go into 4-1 lylo (1 soup) with 2 scummy looking town?
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On September 13 2014 02:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2014 01:53 HaruRH wrote:On September 13 2014 01:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: Well it doesn't make sense to NOT soup two players on N2 in case their N1 target is alive. Who are the 2 players then? I can see how they were worried that syl may not be an acolyte after all and decided to kill him. Also, given how ritoky have been pushing me, dam and syl on d1, they probably tried to kill others and got a role off someone. I am pretty sure Sylencia was souped. Why would you not soup someone when you can as it goes through angel protection? That's also why they could have souped gobbly on N1. What if Koshi is town and protected someone? They won't even get a kill off and that's a disaster. If Koshi was town then it's more likely gobbly was just souped rather than mafia hitting someone.
no, gobble definitely saved someone from dying. It is even stated in his role that he will die a heroic death and it will be known. The only problem is who he saved. Syl's death doesn't matter because he is not a living dead (like damdred and i, since we are going to die anyway)
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Your heroic death will be made obvious.
On September 08 2014 07:04 Palmar wrote: gobbledydook has died a heroic death as he saved the life of a fellow villager
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Geript if you're town then you should feel bad for making those posts Those posts are stuff that make you shudder when you walk along the road, remembering bad and embarrassing memories.
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