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On September 09 2014 19:04 HaruRH wrote: Oh geript you never considered that he was claiming to bait a cc . His is probably the betrayer, the role that switches once he help mafia kill one, the role which.... Wait. That don't exist here. Therefore he is mafia.
Fixed
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On September 04 2014 21:06 Sylencia wrote: Haru is town. Can't explain in too much detail without souping Haru. I am pretty certain I'm seeing the ideal situation and disagree with Koshi's statement about not seeing the big picture.
Null: yamato - call out with no reasoning. Impossible to say anything about it damdred - 1 post rayn - 1 post lonemeow - not in yet
I'm extremely conflicted about Oats. I hate the fact he called sloosh and koshi scum without any reasoning - and still without explaining why he called it out in the first place. His case against sloosh is pretty paper thin and I disagree with his interpretation of sloosh's posts. My interpretation is that the Oracle, Inquisitor and Wraith do what they think is best in terms of both finding the best time to reveal and expose themselves to soup, and in addition who they target. All of us, including the mentioned roles should (at some point closer to deadline more likely) put in suggestions as to who are the ideal target(s). Obviously we can wait for sloosh to come back to smooth things out a bit, but I feel like Oats is just cherry picking the part that makes sloosh look the worse and ignoring everything around it. Main reason why I'm conflicted is because the way Oats has been playing is classic town Oats and some high percentage of games (I think) end up with Oats being mislynched D1 because of it -_-
IAmRobik - pretty townie, can't see scum seeing the gobble grail vote reasoning before being told about it. I wouldn't ever hammer over this alone, but it's definitely a strike against gobble
Gobble is null-scum - Until I think about it later, something gives me a bad feeling about the initial planning post (regarding Inquis/Oracle visiting the same person) - like it feels like a plan to stifle the information we get from the Inquisitor in order to get Oracle views, which I think is pretty average N1. Then there's the case from Robik which I still think is still decent, but as I said, it's not solid enough evidence.
Scum team prediction so far: 1 of the players who haven't posted more than once or twice, oats and gobble. aOn September 05 2014 22:43 Sylencia wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2014 21:10 HaruRH wrote: I thought the notebook idea sucked so i decided not to use it. Robik still haven't convinced me he is town yet. I am waiting. Koshi, stop lying about wanting to post lesser. You know it won't happen and it only makes people suspicious of you. Where is the 'i am the town lord' koshi? Or are you scum? Sylencia... wtf? Souping me? Are you trying to figure out my role or have you? Oats... i feel the singaporean from you. We both are confusing for stupid americans. Yamato -afk lord Geript is missing. Where is he?
I'm not interested in talk about the rest yet. Meanwhile, i am ghostly because i am busy. But i will have sudden spikes in activity when I'm free. Start asking me questions. Just accept I think you're town because I put myself in your shoes. I can only go so deep into my logic without saying too much. On September 08 2014 22:59 Sylencia wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2014 19:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: Sylencia why is geript mafia? Explained it already D1, Haru has the in depth details. Still has yet to do anything D2 either.
What do you think about his constant buddying with me? buddying is alignment null, but... this is pretty excessive.
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On September 09 2014 23:05 IAmRobik wrote: BTW -- if there's someone else who is the role that knows who the inquisitor is, you should probably claim Why would you cc acolyte? It is already dubious to claim it - not to mention counterclaim it.
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On September 10 2014 17:38 geript wrote: If people refuse to lynch Sylencia, I want to lynch either Harurh or Damdred. I could be convinced to look at Oats, but if I can't get a lynch off on Syl then those are the main two I'd look at. I'm still hoping Robik was mafia though. No we are lynching you today.
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We need a majority today. We cannot confirm if robik was the judge or not, so it is best to pretend our judge died and we get a majority on someone. Preferably geript.
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On September 10 2014 18:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:Haru can you explain the following: This is what you said at some point during D1: Show nested quote +On September 05 2014 21:10 HaruRH wrote: Robik still haven't convinced me he is town yet. I am waiting.
This is what you said later on: Show nested quote +On September 09 2014 12:28 HaruRH wrote: robik is town because i know for sure scumrobik will not go for the grail. He will just give excuses and lurk like mad.
Now the problem is the first post is made when the game has been on for some time. Robert had gone for the grail all the time the game has been on, from the beginning of the game.How does this make sense for you to base your read on Robert like this? I see a contradiction which you should explain.
I think it should be more fair if you used other games that I played with robik to compare with this one. All of them were me town with robik town, so I already knew what to expect such that I can 100% read robik is town. My read on him cannot be explained ( ). It is what I see that makes him town, not only because he pulled off some cute stunt such as running for the grail.
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On September 05 2014 23:13 IAmRobik wrote: How can people still doubt me as town? Y'all are fucking silly silly people. I've been the most vocal active person. If i'm scum, I'm leading the most retarded agenda of all time trying to push Rayn and geript when there are easily lynches like haru/gobble/sylencia/yamato/koshi available. If you look at my play in Order, after a silly silly push on marv on d1 or d2, I start focusing on low-post count players who are easy mislynches who contribute nothing.
Either way, I'm super obv town in my opinion.
I expect way more of town!damdred. I think there is something off about koshi. I still lynch sylencia, even though people are throwing scum his way. i skipped a few pages from like pg 23-28, but i'll catch up on them at some point
I was also waiting for something like that to pop up from robik.
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In all his past scum games, robik never goes 'fuck you all I am town and anyone who think i am not town is antitown and should die now'. He will always go 'yea I am town so you guys are wrong'. I was waiting for the aggressive robik to come out and party :D
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If you want a specific post that actually made me go 'this is the town robik I know' then this is the post that made me insta-townread him
On September 05 2014 04:43 IAmRobik wrote: HOW CAN HE HAVE A TOWN READ ON KOSHI AND NOT RAYN WHEN TWO OF THE 3 MAFIA SUSPECTS ARE THE SAME AS RAYN'S BUT HE QUESTIONS KOSHI A TOWN READ, BUT NOT RAYN WHO IS A FENCE READ?
Geript's play does not line up.
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On September 10 2014 21:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: So Haru why didn't you give all those reasons the last time you said why Robik is town instead of "he wouldn't go for the grail as mafia"? What's the difference?
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On September 10 2014 21:41 raynpelikoneet wrote: to be more clear.
Timeline: game start----------(X)--------(1)---------other things happen----------(2)------------->present
Robik does things marked as (X). In (1) you say "i do not know if robert is town or mafia. Other things happen (those things are irrelevant to this because see (2)). In (2) you say "robert is town because he did (X)".
(X) here represents robert wanting the grail.
Now my problem is why did you not read robert town in (1) because the reasoning you used for townreading him in (2) happened before (1).
Understand?
There was no contradiction because
gamestart ------ (X) -------(1) ----------(Y)------(2)-------> present
In (1) I said idk if robik is mafia or town. In (X) robik stated he wants the grail <--- this is alignment null because ANYONE can want the grail In (2) I said robik is conf. town In (Y) robik hardpushed for his grail.
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On September 06 2014 03:11 IAmRobik wrote: People need to vote Ritoky for mayor over geript. Geript is doing some stuff I don't like -- specifically, half of his sentences have grammatical errors that are painful to read and make it sound a lot like someone who is going back to revise what they were trying to originally say.
Even 1 day after I made the message about not knowing if he was town or scum, he was not hard pushing for the grail at all.
On September 06 2014 04:51 IAmRobik wrote: You have me voting twice for grail.
Sloosh, switch to me Rayn switch to me Sylencia switch to me Ritoky -- i know you're a boss and all that, but please put your faith in me.
Thanks for listening <3
On September 06 2014 23:08 IAmRobik wrote: Oats, please put your faith in my for the grail. It's basically between me, ritoky (who said he's not gonna be around today/tomorrow) and geript. Please trust good sir. I am town. I will not let you, or any other townie, down. and only much later, he pushes for the grail.
Therefore, there is no contradiction.
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On September 10 2014 23:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: Robik has been hardpushing himself for grail since the beginning of the game no?
No. He have only made 1 statement about why he wants the grail before that quote I quoted.
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Geript (2) - Sylencia, HaruRH Sylencia (2) - ritoky, raynpelikoneet Damdred (3) - gobbeldydook, Koshi, geript Koshi (1) - Oatsmaster Raynpelikoneet (5) - Yamato77, Damdred, IAmRobik, SloOsh,gobbledydook
if my analysis is correct, i predict that either oats or rayn will get souped. Mafia might try to save the soup and not soup anyone d2 too. I have different sets of scumreads according to who gets souped and if nobody gets souped. I'll save them for d3 so it doesn't help the mafia. But, my general scumreads now are :geript, sloosh, ritoky.
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Basically, I have a prediction on what is going to happen on n3 and it will lead to these 3 being scum.
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On September 10 2014 23:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: why do you think sloosh and ritoky are mafia? and what do you mean by mafia "saving soup"?
They can always not soup someone until n4 or even n5 as long as they don't feel like they are in any immediate pressure.
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Let me ask you some questions instead: Do you think both the mafia were voting for you? Do you think sylencia the mafia will vote on geript the town/mafia for 2 days straight? Do you think oats the mafia will 'throw away' his votes and complain about people throwing away votes?
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On September 10 2014 23:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2014 23:37 HaruRH wrote: Let me ask you some questions instead: Do you think both the mafia were voting for you? I thought so but not anymore. Show nested quote +Do you think sylencia the mafia will vote on geript the town/mafia for 2 days straight? I don't think Sylencia is mafia so i do not understand the question. Show nested quote +Do you think oats the mafia will 'throw away' his votes and complain about people throwing away votes? yes he could. why are you asking me questions if you do not think i am mafia?
I felt bored answering questions so I decided I will answer your questions by making you answer my questions Basically, your answer leads to my answer lol
Btw, those were assumptions. IF sylencia was mafia, would he vote geript 2 days straight?
Maybe the question on the second part was not helping me answer you lol
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On September 11 2014 00:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: If geript was town then why not? If geript was mafia i doubt he would. Could you now tell me why you think Sloosh and ritoky are scum and why Koshi was town?
Koshi could be town. I don't know exactly if he was town or not, so i am parking him under the 'wildcard' section, alongside anyone who gets lynched.
I also like to think that scum won't vote together in this kind of game since information is scarce and it works better to vote differently. Therefore, i analysed every wagon and compared the remainder to decide who was scum or not.
Geript is obv scum. Sloosh and damdred were the first comparison i made. Sloosh came out worse whereas damdred gave up. And town damdred gives up easily. Damdred, when scum, never gave up despite the odds. Second comparison was between ritoky and you. I was less inclined to call you mafia and ritoky have not been doing crap this game. Normally, when he rolls town (like all the game he played), he puts in tremendous effort, which can be seen by his vote analysis, etc. But none so far. Probably because he rolled scum. Oats is not someone i am willing to read further.
I thus came to a conclusion that scum had to lie between oats, ritoky, sloosh, geript, koshi. The way oats was oblivious to this game literally made me call him town. Therefore, geript, sloosh, ritoky is my lynch order.
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4 more hours. Guys we need 2 more on geript.
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On September 12 2014 09:01 ritoky wrote: well this guy is softing my role pretty hard anywayz, and if he hard claims it then it is gg, win for town. it's worth coming out anywayz since i have a red check independent of the guy fake-claiming a red check on me.
i am the inquisitor, on night 1 i investigated geript and he is green, on night 2 i investigated HaruRH and he is RED.
we didn't get a shot last night, which means that either koshi/oats was confirmed mafia or one of them was exorcist. Damdred is faking a red check on me it seems, which would make him confirmed mafia, and haru as another mafia. if we got one in oats/koshi then it's a wrap unless the remaining one after the lynch today soup chains us all.
i checked geript because i read robik as town and they were butting heads hardcore. he turned up green and you will plainly see me sheeping and calling geript town nonstop yesterday.
i didn't think syl was my acolyte, i was wrong. i flipped shit and almost lynched him because his play was so atrocious that i couldn't believe he could possibly be my acolyte; and even if he was he could have bread crumbed to me. luckily he didn't do it enough to warrant me getting souped before i got off a red check.
i checked haru because i didn't like his burst of activity only when accused of being mafia, and i wanted to start narrowing down the lurkers in the game. turns out one of them was mafia.
lynch damdred and haru in any order and we win the game.
i was tempted to come out yesterday as well when damdred did the same thing softing my role when he did the "i read rayn's filter and flipped my read"; i wrote it off as a one time thing, then he proceeded to do nothing last phase and softed it again with the exact same line on me. he is fake claiming inquis, lynch him.
if an oracle was on me n1, we can really solve this game as the wraith was on me n1 so we will know if koshi was mafia or not for certain.
i laughed hard when i saw this post. Since you're forcing me to claim here,
I am the exorcist.
i could not kill yesterday. It meant that either oats or koshi was scum. I was pretty shocked. And because ritoky scumclaimed,
##Vote:ritoky
I knew something was wrong with your play. It certainly wasn't the town|ritoky that i always played with.
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