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On September 04 2014 14:42 slOosh wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2014 14:37 ritoky wrote:On September 04 2014 14:30 slOosh wrote:On September 04 2014 14:28 ritoky wrote:On September 04 2014 14:24 slOosh wrote:
Some people find it really easy to ease into games while others build into it. Both as town and as scum. Furthermore it's a themed setup where everyone has a role, so maybe "playing like blue" is kicking in. My point is that shutting down things so early in a 72 hour Day 1 doesn't really help us since you don't know if you just shut down scum or town. All you know is you shut them down.
I'm actually inclined to think gobbleygook and sylencia more townish for their setup discussions. agree with gobble, not sylencia. Cool. Could you elaborate on the difference you perceive? Because I'm of the opinion their approaches to it are similar. didn't i just say the difference in my previous post? like literally the post before this? (actually 2 i think) Oh ... I guess I misunderstood. I think the setup discussion is townish, and I'm reading gobbleygook and sylencia town for their setup discussion. Not null, but town. It looks like they want to figure out what's best for town with regards to how we apply blue actions. I'm not bothered by the lack of substantive reads at this point, since the day just started. On that note, they are trying to get something in thread going instead of just sitting back and waiting. Do you read the setup talk null? If so, what about gobbleygook do you read town?
i think talking about "optimal play" and the setup is an easy thing to do as either alignment and appear to be contributing. i also don't really think it yields much alignment indicative information unless someone is quite obviously intentionally feeding a bad line of play to everyone else. something which i would like to believe almost everyone who plays on these forums would be smart enough not to do as mafia. but i have seen and done a lot of stupid stuff so i guess nothing is outside of the realm of possibility.
i think syl is scummy right now because all he has talked about is setup, when challenged he got whiny and defensive, and he claimed to not have time and spent what he had in defense rather than actually trying to find scum in any way.
conversely, gobble faced basically the exact same challenges and just plodded on ahead. plus i liked his vehement stance against robik's suggestion to mass claim in angel thread. if he were mafia i don't think he would come out with that strong of a sentiment against it that quickly.
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On September 04 2014 15:18 slOosh wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2014 14:50 ritoky wrote:On September 04 2014 14:42 slOosh wrote:On September 04 2014 14:37 ritoky wrote:On September 04 2014 14:30 slOosh wrote:On September 04 2014 14:28 ritoky wrote:On September 04 2014 14:24 slOosh wrote:
Some people find it really easy to ease into games while others build into it. Both as town and as scum. Furthermore it's a themed setup where everyone has a role, so maybe "playing like blue" is kicking in. My point is that shutting down things so early in a 72 hour Day 1 doesn't really help us since you don't know if you just shut down scum or town. All you know is you shut them down.
I'm actually inclined to think gobbleygook and sylencia more townish for their setup discussions. agree with gobble, not sylencia. Cool. Could you elaborate on the difference you perceive? Because I'm of the opinion their approaches to it are similar. didn't i just say the difference in my previous post? like literally the post before this? (actually 2 i think) Oh ... I guess I misunderstood. I think the setup discussion is townish, and I'm reading gobbleygook and sylencia town for their setup discussion. Not null, but town. It looks like they want to figure out what's best for town with regards to how we apply blue actions. I'm not bothered by the lack of substantive reads at this point, since the day just started. On that note, they are trying to get something in thread going instead of just sitting back and waiting. Do you read the setup talk null? If so, what about gobbleygook do you read town? i think talking about "optimal play" and the setup is an easy thing to do as either alignment and appear to be contributing I would disagree on this point, because if I'm having a tough time trying to figure out optimal strategy for town, then scum would have an even tougher time trying to optimize strategy for scum, and then disguise it as optimal strategy for town. Thus compared to a regular game's heuristics of setup talk = scummy, I'd wager setup talk = towny (at least until this post, now that I've said it who knows), especially since Sylencia isn't really known for his independent mafia play. Even the 30 minute gap between his first two posts looks like he was thinking about the suggestion, and potential flaws / shortcomings, and then came up with a modified suggestion. Looks quite good to me. But enough of that. Let's move on to some other reads. Show nested quote +On September 04 2014 08:14 Koshi wrote:
HaruRH, if you believe that Koshi or rayn are the most important people.
and
if you believe scum will kill the grail owner.
why
do you want to give the grail to Koshi or rayn? This feels a bit like a loaded question to me (like, there is no good way for anyone to answer it). You either give the grail to towny town (who might get shot), or kinda town (?), or scum (??). What's your take of Koshi's suspicion of HaruRH (the suspicion itself or the way he did it or whatever)?
i don't have a particular read on harurh other than that this bolded part is weird, might be a typo...but idk how he seems so affirmed about something like that at that point in the game.
On September 04 2014 07:47 HaruRH wrote:Also, We must 100% choose someone and bot leave it up to witches. The bearer of the holy grail will almost certainly die on d2 and the matyr should definitely try to save the bearer.
as for koshi's suspicion of him. i think haru is someone who needs to be pushed on for more information. cuz in the games i have played with haru he has not been the most forthcoming player, so i like the intent. i agree with you that the question is loaded and full of bait, so i don't like that hence that interaction kinda ends in a null. but i am more put off by him not trying to go for the grail and deferring it to geript, than what you are concerned with. that's not in line with the last time i saw town koshi, and he is not someone i would give the grail to.
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On September 04 2014 15:46 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2014 15:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Don't talk about setup. You can only help scum.
Don't claim unless i tell you to.
Period.  You are making me sad.
geript, if you had no hands and thus could not hold the holy grail; who would you give it to right now?
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On September 04 2014 15:53 geript wrote:
I don't really have any solid townreads yet. It's really sad. Plus there's too many people on my too lynch list. Gun to my head Koshi; he's not as happy and fun as I usually think of him. But there's an odd towny air to him.
who, other than non-posters, is on your "too lynch list"?
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and why they are there would be nice too.
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On September 04 2014 15:57 geript wrote:
Wait I forgot about ritoky. He had a really odd and unique point somewhere that I thought was really wrong (maybe about bobbly) but I'd be surprised if ritoky were mafia. He'd be my first choice.
ritoky is the guy asking you this /facepalm
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On September 04 2014 16:08 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2014 14:50 ritoky wrote:On September 04 2014 14:42 slOosh wrote:On September 04 2014 14:37 ritoky wrote:On September 04 2014 14:30 slOosh wrote:On September 04 2014 14:28 ritoky wrote:On September 04 2014 14:24 slOosh wrote:
Some people find it really easy to ease into games while others build into it. Both as town and as scum. Furthermore it's a themed setup where everyone has a role, so maybe "playing like blue" is kicking in. My point is that shutting down things so early in a 72 hour Day 1 doesn't really help us since you don't know if you just shut down scum or town. All you know is you shut them down.
I'm actually inclined to think gobbleygook and sylencia more townish for their setup discussions. agree with gobble, not sylencia. Cool. Could you elaborate on the difference you perceive? Because I'm of the opinion their approaches to it are similar. didn't i just say the difference in my previous post? like literally the post before this? (actually 2 i think) Oh ... I guess I misunderstood. I think the setup discussion is townish, and I'm reading gobbleygook and sylencia town for their setup discussion. Not null, but town. It looks like they want to figure out what's best for town with regards to how we apply blue actions. I'm not bothered by the lack of substantive reads at this point, since the day just started. On that note, they are trying to get something in thread going instead of just sitting back and waiting. Do you read the setup talk null? If so, what about gobbleygook do you read town? i think talking about "optimal play" and the setup is an easy thing to do as either alignment and appear to be contributing. i also don't really think it yields much alignment indicative information unless someone is quite obviously intentionally feeding a bad line of play to everyone else. something which i would like to believe almost everyone who plays on these forums would be smart enough not to do as mafia. but i have seen and done a lot of stupid stuff so i guess nothing is outside of the realm of possibility. i think syl is scummy right now because all he has talked about is setup, when challenged he got whiny and defensive, and he claimed to not have time and spent what he had in defense rather than actually trying to find scum in any way.
conversely, gobble faced basically the exact same challenges and just plodded on ahead. plus i liked his vehement stance against robik's suggestion to mass claim in angel thread. if he were mafia i don't think he would come out with that strong of a sentiment against it that quickly. This is what I was talking about.
do you think that it's wrong because we should all claim in the angel thread or do you think its wrong that i town read him for responding negatively in all caps?
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On September 04 2014 16:16 geript wrote:
Why is Rayn making me a sad panda? I wait this long and one lousy setup statement.
rayn is also rain, rain is water that falls from the sky, water that falls from your eyes is crying, crying is what you do when you're sad. it's all in the name.
that aside, even though we're kinda in different places right now on a couple people. i think you're pretty town.
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On September 05 2014 03:04 geript wrote:
Still catchup up between rereading what I half read while I was half awake and catching filters. I don't foresee much change from where I was at last night when ritoky oh so rudely didn't give me his full set of reads back.
sorry, i reached a conclusion on you and went to bed.
woke up like 20 mins ago and am catching up, will give you these when i have.
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On September 05 2014 03:28 IAmRobik wrote:
Ritoky,
Why didn't you petition to be town mayor?
Where are the bald eagles?
it is coming.
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On September 05 2014 03:57 IAmRobik wrote:
What was the conclusion you reached -- before you go back and read...you can change your mind after you read. quick quick
i thought he was town
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On September 05 2014 04:07 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2014 03:59 ritoky wrote:On September 05 2014 03:57 IAmRobik wrote:
What was the conclusion you reached -- before you go back and read...you can change your mind after you read. quick quick
i thought he was town wrong...but go on and go catch up and post.
could you tell me how i am wrong?
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![[image loading]](http://www.cbn.com/700clubinteractive/images/ready-to-know-Jesus.jpg)
Do you know what this town needs right now?
Town Jesus.
Only Jesus, with his divine grace can purge our lands of these heathen scum. They seek to turn our dogs into blood sacrifices for their false gods. They worship idols and seek to kidnap our children. Only the power of Christ can protect us now and root out these abominable wretches from our homestead. The village must be saved, and Town Jesus is the man for the job.
Time to call in the big guns:
![[image loading]](http://i0.wp.com/www.equinoxpub.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Jesus-angry.jpg)
If elected as your Town Jesus, I would bear the Holy Grail of the town, and use the awesomeness bestowed upon me to unleash the unrelenting Grace of God upon these witch scum. For it is not sharp sticks and swords that will purge them from this land but the pure Grace.
Alas, I shall also bring with me, for all of you to follow, The 10 Readmandments:
1 - ritoky is Town Jesus.
2 - Robik is probably a follower of Town Jesus: a wise man once told me, do not lynch any non-holyflare player who has the largest filter on day 1, until at least day 3.
3 - Gobble is probably a follower of Town Jesus: Town Jesus does not care if people think his reasons for reading someone town are poor, he still has faith in his reads. Gobble also has a divine power: he speaks in tongues. Sometimes he says things and they make absolutely no sense to anyone at all, and sometimes he immediately speaks in rage against others as can be seen here:
On September 05 2014 00:54 gobbledydook wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2014 00:50 IAmRobik wrote:On September 05 2014 00:45 Oatsmaster wrote:On September 05 2014 00:38 IAmRobik wrote:
Can someone explain to me why gobble is speaking for people all game instead of just waiting for people to explain themselves? Is this towny? I have NOOOOOOOOOOOOO FUCKING CLUE how to read this behavior. ??? hes saying his reads? ##unvote
##vote Koshi No -- he's saying he thinks that person x is trying to say _____. Yes, it's a read, but it's not a read. It's not "i think he's town because i think he's doing such-and-such to generate conversation". He's just saying "I think that this person thinks this because he's doing that" Yes, this post is confusing. Just read Gooble's posts to understand what i'm trying to say It seems you don't like how my reads are presented. You are entitled to your opinion. And I don't care.
But Town Jesus believes it comes from a place of love.
4 - Oats has fallen from Town Jesus' grace into purgatory: At first Oats shared many similar thoughts to Town Jesus, almost identical thoughts; and Town Jesus thought that this could be the man to lead us, however since then some reticence has occurred in Town Jesus' mind. It has all been pure accusation and question with very little substance and reads provided. Town Jesus is about giving, not taking from others. A Wise Man once told me: he who purely accuses does so because he is scared of being accused.
5 - Rayn is currently in purgatory with one foot out the door to Hell: Town Jesus has said this in every game he has played: "Over 90% of the time, the first person to list all of the lurkers in the game and say lynch these people is scum" Town Jesus does not have more evidence than that yet (other than robik's ellipses of doom) so he will not put him in Hell yet, but he is certainly on his way.
6 - In the theme of lurkers, Town Jesus believes a conscious choice needs to be made about yamato77 if he doesn't pick up his posting. I will give LoneMeow the benefit of a day because I think he is a new player to pick up the posting. However, many a game has Town Jesus waited for yamato77 to pick up the posting late into a game and it is never delivered; and ultimately he either ends up being mafia or becoming an easy late lurker mislynch for mafia in the late game. We should come together and decide on him sooner rather than later if he continues his drought of posting.
7 - Koshi is in purgatory with one foot out the door to Hell: Town Jesus has heard every excuse in the book for why x doesn't line up with y. Change of playstyle, maybe, but I'll err on the side of paranoia and assume you're lying. However, some people have informed Town Jesus in the thread that Koshi is like wine and gets better with age. Town Jesus would still vote for him, but not be against giving him a day to become a finer wine.
8 - Sylencia is in purgatory with one foot out the door to Hell: Town Jesus was thinking about putting Sylencia in Hell, but re-read his filter and thought against it. There is some nobility and honor in defending a useless and lost cause, which gave me pause. However, pure setup talk into a null read on people who haven't posted, a null read on oats, and a pretty null read on gobble. The only strong read she has given is robik - town, which right now I am inclined to agree with; and haru town with no explanation behind it. Town Jesus does not buy wolf tickets.
9 - Sloosh is a man who speaks honestly, but about nearly nothing. Town Jesus does not know what to make of him right now, but is wary of how non-committal he is about many things and his softball questioning of others.
10 - Geript is in purgatory with on step on his way to becoming a follower of Town Jesus: From the interactions Town Jesus has had with Geript, he feels like a genuine individual who wants to be on the right track. Town Jesus also believes that it is possible, contrary to what Robik says, for two individuals to be in two completely different view points in the game, but believe in Town Jesus just the same. That said, not all of what Robik is saying is falling deaf to Town Jesus' ears.
If you want to be a follower of Town Jesus, and believe in the Word of God to purge the land of the evil witch scum, then I urge you to vote to make Town Jesus the bearer of the Grail.
![[image loading]](http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-alYZSEX9zOw/UNjmoA4hKUI/AAAAAAAABIU/Auuqr_qeDlg/s1600/beat+Satan.+Jesus+daily.jpg)
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On September 05 2014 05:11 IAmRobik wrote:
Ritoky,
1) no bald eagles
2) the girl looks like she's from Christian Mingles and she's read for my Jewish D
"You tryin' to tell me Jesus Christ can't hit a curve ball?" - Eddie Harris, Major League - 1989
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On September 05 2014 05:31 IAmRobik wrote:
At what point are you going to try this game yamato?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
also ##Vote for grail: ritoky forgot that on my post earlier.
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On September 05 2014 07:56 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2014 06:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: Rayn has geript as his like 4th person on his list and me as his top -- not that it was in any particular order, but why would he vote for geript for grail over me? because i have my reasons which noone besides geript would never understand. It's quite simple to understand. It's because you're mafia with him.
do you think they would quite blatantly stroke eachother like this in the thread if they were mafia together?
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On September 05 2014 07:58 IAmRobik wrote:
It's whatever though. I'm going to be night killed tonight cause mafia is fucking scared shitless of me right now, but no one is going to bother reviewing my reads cause everyone is trash
i think you're town, but your reads are sporadic through your posts; not centralized so sometimes they are hard for me to remember.
from what i remember you have:
me - town jesus
gobble - town
rayn - witch
geript - witch
can you fill in the places where i missed please? don't really have the ability/time to filter dive for them right now.
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On September 05 2014 08:34 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2014 08:02 ritoky wrote:On September 05 2014 07:58 IAmRobik wrote:
It's whatever though. I'm going to be night killed tonight cause mafia is fucking scared shitless of me right now, but no one is going to bother reviewing my reads cause everyone is trash i think you're town, but your reads are sporadic through your posts; not centralized so sometimes they are hard for me to remember. from what i remember you have: me - town jesus gobble - town rayn - witch geript - witch can you fill in the places where i missed please? don't really have the ability/time to filter dive for them right now. Not sure on gobble actually Sylencia lean town oats town
gonna be afk for a while now, my super bowl champion seattle seahawks are playing soon and i have guests.
could you explain what moved you from town early to not sure now?
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WOOOOOO SEAHAWWWKKKSSSS OMG WE GONN WIN IT AGAINNNNNN
yo, we should really sort out this grail thing right away, so we can focus on the lynch with full focus instead of split focus between the two.
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List of people who have voted for the Grail:
- geript
- gobble
- Koshi
- rayn
- ritoky
- robik
- sloosh
Everyone else who hasn't voted or given a firm stance on it, needs to weigh in very soon or give a damn good reason why you have no strong town reads nearly 36 hours into the game.
I AM LOOKING AT YOU SYL, OATS, AND DAM. I SEE YOU HERE AND POSTING. OPINIONS ON GRAIL PLOX!
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