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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 03 2014 06:54 GMT
#46
/in keep the streak alive.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 04 2014 00:55 GMT
#167
On September 04 2014 09:49 gobbledydook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 09:46 yamato77 wrote:
I still think Koshi is mafia


why? You have given no reason at all.


why is your name so bad?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 04 2014 01:03 GMT
#169
On September 04 2014 09:58 gobbledydook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 09:55 ritoky wrote:
On September 04 2014 09:49 gobbledydook wrote:
On September 04 2014 09:46 yamato77 wrote:
I still think Koshi is mafia


why? You have given no reason at all.


why is your name so bad?


that's irrelevant


seems highly relevant to me, i have to type it
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 04 2014 01:22 GMT
#174
On September 04 2014 10:10 IAmRobik wrote:
OK! Now that geript finally realizes what's wrong with Goobly's vote to give geript the grail, I'll elaborate on what's confusing me.

Unless Goobly hasn't been reading geript's post, Goobly knows that geript wants to lynch him, so why would goobly give geript the grail?

1) he's mafia and he wants to get on geripts good side
2) he's town and he has faith that geript will change his opinion on him

But if he's town, wouldn't he follow-up a statement like:

Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 09:08 gobbledydook wrote:
What's the problem with that? I don't agree with this particular read but I think he's a good player overall that wouldn't misuse the double vote.


by saying "and i'm sure by the end of today, his opinion on me will change"

Unless of course he's mafia and he's basically maf!claiming that geript would use the grail well, cause geript wants to lynch him.

I guess I'm biased-ly leaning towards him being mafia, but idk...maybe he's just town that has faith in geript...BUT WHY WOULD HE HAVE FAITH IN GERIPT IF GERIPT IS VOTING HIM? UGHAODSFHNAOSINGFSDOIFGN I DON'T FUCKING GET IT!


really i thought his reasoning was shit for an entirely different reason. that quote to me seems like he wants to give geript the grail for ogi/preconceived reasons. "he's a good player overall"; that's great...i think many players are good players, but i wouldn't give them the grail for that reason alone.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 04 2014 02:55 GMT
#197
On September 04 2014 11:52 IAmRobik wrote:
I think everyone should visit me tonight


i think everyone sees you jerking off enough in this thread.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 04 2014 02:56 GMT
#198
On September 04 2014 11:47 gobbledydook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 11:30 IAmRobik wrote:
On September 04 2014 11:17 gobbledydook wrote:
On September 04 2014 10:59 IAmRobik wrote:
Is this a new thing where people just give reads and don't explain them whatsoever.

WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY? And why vote Koshi over Sloosh?


I think he's just stirring shit up. We can safely ignore this vote.

Did you just ask him the question I asked him and then answered the question for him? Have you played this game before? Like wtf are you even doing?


Like, I asked wtf, and because he didn't respond, I came to the conclusion that he is just stirring shit up.


what do you make of the fact that he is not the first person to do it. in fact yamato77 basically did the exact same thing. why didn't you question him?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 04 2014 03:48 GMT
#203
On September 04 2014 12:00 gobbledydook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 11:56 ritoky wrote:
On September 04 2014 11:47 gobbledydook wrote:
On September 04 2014 11:30 IAmRobik wrote:
On September 04 2014 11:17 gobbledydook wrote:
On September 04 2014 10:59 IAmRobik wrote:
Is this a new thing where people just give reads and don't explain them whatsoever.

WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY? And why vote Koshi over Sloosh?


I think he's just stirring shit up. We can safely ignore this vote.

Did you just ask him the question I asked him and then answered the question for him? Have you played this game before? Like wtf are you even doing?


Like, I asked wtf, and because he didn't respond, I came to the conclusion that he is just stirring shit up.


what do you make of the fact that he is not the first person to do it. in fact yamato77 basically did the exact same thing. why didn't you question him?


I also asked yamato why. Read my filter.


ok then, here's a better question. why do you not care about people responding to your questions when you find them odd/scummy?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 04 2014 04:25 GMT
#211
On September 04 2014 12:53 slOosh wrote:
ritoky, what should we do with the Grail?


i would prefer to treat it like how we elect the mayor in cell mafia. people make campaigns for it and justify their campaign with solid reads on the game. it renders it down to less choices so we don't have a bunch of sporadic votes on random people so that later in the game we can potentially gain information from the grail vote.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 04 2014 04:40 GMT
#223
On September 04 2014 13:38 Sylencia wrote:
God, I just realised there's no way to confirm we have more dead good guys than bad without oracle claiming

If that's the case, I'd still rather have haunt/oracle combine targets over inquisitor/oracle combo. Sure, inquisitors are going to check dubious players, but I'd rather have a checked player alive for the sake of having the confirmed players go up rather than keeping ourselves in the dark for the players who are alive. Am I making sense or am I not understanding something?


can you stop talking purely about process and actually talk about players in the game and finding scum?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 04 2014 04:44 GMT
#232
On September 04 2014 13:41 Sylencia wrote:
I would, but I'm not reading the actual thread at the moment because I'm at work - I just looked at the latest posts to see what was being said at the time


so you're not posting to contribute to the game in a meaningful way or find scum, you're just posting to say "hey guys i am here, did you notice?" great welcome, you're the first person on my scum list.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 04 2014 04:47 GMT
#237
On September 04 2014 13:44 gobbledydook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 13:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 04 2014 13:03 Sylencia wrote:
On September 04 2014 12:18 gobbledydook wrote:
Because there are no flips this game, I think the oracle proc will be very important in solving this game. As such I think we should make sure that the inquisitor and oracle visit the same target. The reason why I don't think the wraith should visit the same target as the inquisitor/oracle is because the witches know who the inquisitor and oracle visit, but if we make it known who the duo are visiting, then the mafia can't gain any new information. Meanwhile, the wraith can visit other people and hopefully hit the Grandier/Pope.


From N2+ depending on how it goes (still interpreting this setup) shouldn't the Angelic Protection + Oracle visit line up instead? If town makes it clear who is the ideal target to protect before the night falls, it could free up the Inquisitor to start checking others.

Naturally the plan doesn't work if a witch is killed D1, but that's already a win.

Also, the flaw in following this plan N1 is by lining up who is getting checked, they will either be confirmed witch regardless (they won't kill their own teammate obviously) or they're going to die and the inquisitor check is wasted. Not sure if I actually like that.

Really really bad entry.
Why speculate on the setup with your first and second post and not eve bother about the main part of the game. You do realise that we can lynch someone today right? TODAY.

Top 3 scum reads now syl


WHY ARE SLOOSH AND KOSHI SCUM


i don't think koshi is scum yet; but he is leaning that way. i have only played 2 games with him, and the one where he was town he wanted to actively grab the game by the balls and lead town. the fact that he doesn't want to do that and seems content passing the grail to one of his town reads in geript isn't in line w/ the previous town play i experienced of his.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 04 2014 04:48 GMT
#239
what the fuck is up with oats post sniping the fuck outta everything i say right now?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 04 2014 04:52 GMT
#241
On September 04 2014 13:50 Sylencia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 13:44 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 04 2014 13:41 Sylencia wrote:
I would, but I'm not reading the actual thread at the moment because I'm at work - I just looked at the latest posts to see what was being said at the time

Why bother then? Do you think your uninformed posts are useful to town at this stage of the game?


No, because the proposal given is an isolated train of thought that isn't connected (as far as I know) to the rest of the game that is going on. Apparently lurking instead of tryingto expand on an idea when I can't actually do anything else is scummy though so.. ok.


not using your time to find scum, even if you only have limited capabilities at the time is scummy.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 04 2014 04:59 GMT
#247
On September 04 2014 13:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ritoky, why did sloosh ask you that softball question? Was there previous interaction that I missed?

Sloosh is scum cause he hasn't done anything useful yet. Just asked a few useless questions.
So he has the time to post a bit but doesn't do anything with that time.


no idea why he asked me; probably because most of my previous posts had been joke insults against gobble and robik and he wanted me to talk about the game. but it didn't seem like a question that was posed in a way to gain any alignment indicative information...actually a couple of his other question posts are kinda like that too.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 04 2014 05:01 GMT
#249
On September 04 2014 13:58 Sylencia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 13:52 gobbledydook wrote:
On September 04 2014 13:50 Sylencia wrote:
On September 04 2014 13:44 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 04 2014 13:41 Sylencia wrote:
I would, but I'm not reading the actual thread at the moment because I'm at work - I just looked at the latest posts to see what was being said at the time

Why bother then? Do you think your uninformed posts are useful to town at this stage of the game?


No, because the proposal given is an isolated train of thought that isn't connected (as far as I know) to the rest of the game that is going on. Apparently lurking instead of tryingto expand on an idea when I can't actually do anything else is scummy though so.. ok.


wait what
lurking is scummy when did you ever see anyone say lurking is towny


that's not the point that they're trying to make though. Basically the act of coming to the thread to check what's been posted in the latest page because I only have 15-20 minutes, posting something that is related to a proposal which is, or at least seems to be, an isolated suggestion which is not relevant to anything that happened in the past 5 or so hours and trying to expand on that is actually a negative thing. From what I understand, I'm better off posting nothing and not giving any opinion on what was suggested because entry posts are oh-so-important.


why are you so defensive over this? all i am saying is that goal #1 of town is to find and lynch scum, you're not spending your time doing this; thus you're scummy.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 04 2014 05:01 GMT
#250
this post snipe is real.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 04 2014 05:16 GMT
#255
On September 04 2014 14:09 slOosh wrote:
Not only that his actions are shutting down potentially good town discussion of setup. While in normal games setup talk is something scum favor because it is safe to do, this is a unique theme game, and setup talk can be very pro town. The discussion of actions, even if we don't arrive at a consensus, is a great means of developing information and reads.


I think there is a distinct difference between someone ONLY talking about the set-up and theorizing about optimal play and someone who is both interacting with the thread and talking about setup.

gobble and robik for example is doing the latter and i think that is just fine. whereas syl is purely talking about setup and process which i don't find fine.

however oats is town as hell right now. i am town and that guy has literally had the exact same thought as me 3 times almost consecutively. i would even consider voting him for grail at this point.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 04 2014 05:17 GMT
#256
my english....it cannot be fixed....maybe i shouldnt have dropped out of 3rd grade.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 04 2014 05:28 GMT
#260
On September 04 2014 14:24 slOosh wrote:
Some people find it really easy to ease into games while others build into it. Both as town and as scum. Furthermore it's a themed setup where everyone has a role, so maybe "playing like blue" is kicking in. My point is that shutting down things so early in a 72 hour Day 1 doesn't really help us since you don't know if you just shut down scum or town. All you know is you shut them down.

I'm actually inclined to think gobbleygook and sylencia more townish for their setup discussions.


agree with gobble, not sylencia.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 04 2014 05:37 GMT
#262
On September 04 2014 14:30 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 14:28 ritoky wrote:
On September 04 2014 14:24 slOosh wrote:
Some people find it really easy to ease into games while others build into it. Both as town and as scum. Furthermore it's a themed setup where everyone has a role, so maybe "playing like blue" is kicking in. My point is that shutting down things so early in a 72 hour Day 1 doesn't really help us since you don't know if you just shut down scum or town. All you know is you shut them down.

I'm actually inclined to think gobbleygook and sylencia more townish for their setup discussions.


agree with gobble, not sylencia.

Cool. Could you elaborate on the difference you perceive? Because I'm of the opinion their approaches to it are similar.


didn't i just say the difference in my previous post? like literally the post before this? (actually 2 i think)
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
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