EPTMission Mini Mafia
| Forum Index > TL Mafia |
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
| ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
| ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
| ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
| ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
| ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On August 31 2014 05:40 The_Templar wrote: I'm secretly a town bonjwa but I always get mafia so I never get to use it. I would figure you three out. But who would listen? | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/kd5Opc8.png) 11. T'ai / Peace
The Receptive, which moves downward, stands above; the Creative, which moves upward, is below. Hence their influences meet and are in harmony, so that all living things bloom and prosper. This hexagram belongs to the first month (February-March), at which time the forces of nature prepare the new spring. THE JUDGMENT
This hexagram denotes a time in nature when heaven seems to be on earth. Heaven has placed itself beneath the earth, and so their powers unite in deep harmony. Then peace and blessing descend upon all living things. In the world of man it is a time of social harmony; those in high places show favor to the lowly, and the lowly and inferior is an end to all feuds. In side, at the center, in the key position, is the light principle; the dark principle is outside. Thus the light has a powerful influence, while the dark is submissive. In this way each receives its due. When the good elements of society occupy a central position and are in control, the evil elements come under their influence and change for the better. When the spirit of heaven rules in man, his animal nature also comes under its influence and takes its appropriate place. The individual lines enter the hexagram from below and leave it again at the top. Here the small, weak, and evil elements are about to take their departure, while the great, strong, and good elements are moving up. This brings good fortune and success. THE IMAGE
Heaven and earth are in contact and combine their influences, producing a time of universal flowering and prosperity. This stream of energy must be regulated by the ruler of men. It is done by a process of division. Thus men divide the uniform flow of time into the seasons, according to the succession of natural phenomena, and mark off infinite space by the points of the compass. In this way nature in its overwhelming profusion of phenomena is bounded and controlled. One the other hand, nature must be furthered in her productiveness. This is done by adjusting the products to the right time and the right place, which increases the natural yield. This controlling and furthering activity of man in his relation to nature is the work on nature that rewards him. THE LINES
In times of prosperity every able man called to fill an office draws like minded people along with him, just as in pulling up ribbon grass one always pulls up a bunch of it, because the stalks are connected by their roots. In such times, when it is possible to extend influence widely, the mind of an able man is set upon going out into life and accomplishing something.
In times of prosperity it is important and above all to possess enough greatness of soul to bear with imperfect people. For in the hands of a great master no material is unproductive; he can find use for everything. But this generosity is by no means laxity or weakness. It is during times of prosperity especially that we must always be ready to risk even dangerous undertakings, such as the crossing of a river, if they are necessary. So too we must not neglect what is distant but must attend scrupulously to everything. Factionalism and the dominance of cliques are especially to be avoided. Even if people of like mind come forward together, they ought not to form a faction by holding together for mutual advantage; instead, each man should do is duty. Theses are four ways in which one can overcome the hidden danger of a gradual slackening that always lurks in any time of peace. And that is how one finds the middle way for action.
The sovereign I is T'ang the Completer. By his decree the imperial princesses, although higher in rank than their husbands, had to obey them like all other wives. Here too we are shown a truly modest union of high and low that brings happiness and blessings. | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
| ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 03 2014 06:39 Tehpoofter wrote: I think thats a stretch I don't think I'd give him townie points for any of these posts as even as a noob you could say them from either alignment. I think its is townie of you to point it out like it seems as if you're looking for scum. Would you agree that 3d12's posts carry an apologetic tone? If yes, why do you think he is posting this way? | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 03 2014 06:48 Tehpoofter wrote: I do think that he is apologetic in nature on his posts. His entrance landed him in the scummy side for me because of the way it agreed with someone who already posted about something I thought was scummy. If hes scum its to try to scoot out of a lynch. He could be town trying to figure things out. He stays as scum for now to me thought. What about you? I agree that his tone sounds apologetic but I do not think in his case that this is alignment indicative. Reading his filter, I noticed he has been posting like this since before the game even began. Here are some posts before the game started: On August 30 2014 00:51 3d12 wrote: /in I've never played, so if you're alright with a newbie joining in, then please do sign me up. I've read a few of the guides already though, and it seems like an interesting format. Seems like the type of game that might even be more fun in IRC format. On August 30 2014 05:50 3d12 wrote: Sorry for the double-post, but I just wanted to double-check. (And bear with me, this is only the first of what will likely be a deluge of dumb newbie questions) Is the deadline of 12:30pm PDT the deadline for confirmation, or the deadline to post each day? Then this is his first post as of the game starting: On September 02 2014 08:44 3d12 wrote: Forgive me if this seems like kind of a newbie question, but after catching up on the thread, the main thing that sticks out to me is the discussion about the voting. I'm not sure this is a good way to flush out scum. Personally, I'm with Damdred on the opinion that cutting the vote off early will cause tunneling on whoever has the majority at that point, so could someone enlighten me further on why this strategy would help? An apologetic tone would usually raise alarm bells for me. Townies are inherently innocent and shouldn't be afraid of saying the wrong thing or accidentally saying too much; they have no reason to apologize. If townies are afraid of speaking their mind that might be an indicator of a poor thread environment. However, since 3d12 has been posting like this since before the game began I believe he's just nervous about playing in general. People have been going after him since his first post so there hasn't even been an opportunity for him to calm down yet. Overall I do not think 3d12's apologies are scummy. | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
##unvote @tehpoofter : Are you intentionally choosing easy targets? Also your vote was already on micchan? On September 02 2014 12:18 Tehpoofter wrote: I didn't even see this post tbh..... thats really weird. ##unvote ##Vote: Micchan Hai fix the mess please. | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 03 2014 07:29 Tehpoofter wrote: I realized that afterwards lol Oh its a voting thread well dammit. Will update. I think that his actions are scummy easy to find or not if he plays like that its scummy. Are you telling me you think that what he has done is townie? IF not you should vote for him. None of micchans posts have made me think anything about his alignment. I do think he is probably the easiest target right now though, right ahead of 3d12 who you also scum read. | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 03 2014 07:47 Tehpoofter wrote: Do you agree that the points I made are what scum does? If not what about them seems town? Also what makes you so sure that Micchan and 3d12 are both town? Who do you think is mafia? I agree that the points you raised are what scum does sometimes, I'm still null on both of them though. I never said either of them were townie in any way; I am not leaning town on either of them. I just don't think they're any scummier than than X person or Y person right now. I do wish micchan would post more. I don't know who is mafia yet. You going after the two easiest targets makes me want to scum read you but I'm apprehensive because of certain things. You double voted micchan, that's not a mistake I associate with mafia. You're receptive to questions. You're not just running around calling people scum for no reason, even if I don't feel as strongly as you do about your reasons. If you were curious, you are at least 1 town point higher micchan for responding to me. On September 03 2014 07:48 Vivax wrote: 1) So bats, do you think in terms of who is easy to lynch or in terms of who is town or not. 2) You imply somebody, in this case poofter, is scummy for going after easy targets which is nonsense. 3) You have a bunch of people playing the game, some play the game with more effort than others. When those playing with effort scumread those who play with less effort then yes, the target is easy but the motivation behind it is largely understandable. The hardest part of playing scum is putting effort you don't actually have to put into the game cause there's nothing for you to solve. 4) So explain to me what the hell you're trying to achieve with this stuff on tp. 1) Both and I think the two are related. 2) Your words not mine. In my personal experience, mafia prefers easy over difficult. 3) I agree with what you said here. 4) tp happened to be online at the same time as me, so we're talking. I had questions, he's had answers. I think we've made progress. My objective in talking with tp is to play the game and try to figure things out. | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 03 2014 08:22 kushm4sta wrote: but who would you fuck he said he would bang vivax | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 03 2014 08:24 Tehpoofter wrote: I just went to the front page to find a voting thread for this game and don't see it or at least the link isn't working.... am I slow in the head or is there no voting thread? This implies that voting in this thread is counting On September 02 2014 22:20 HaruRH wrote: Vote Count – Day 1 27ninjabunnies (0): Tehpoofter (0): The_Templar (1): batsnacks batsnacks (2): kushm4sta, Obiwanshinobi Micchan (1): Tehpoofter Obiwanshinobi (1): Oatsmaster Not voting (-): Everyone else Currently, batsnacks is set to be lynched with 2 votes. Please contact the mods if the vote count is incorrect. Thank you! Day 1 will end in (19:30 GMT (+00:00)). | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 02 2014 05:25 kitaman27 wrote: True, though at this point nobody has any proper reads for at least a few more hours. I'd prefer to to speculate to see if we can come up with any policies to break the system. For example, if we all agree to cut the day cycle short by one hour as if that were the deadline and then all move our votes to whoever had the majority at that point, we might be able to trigger a failure on a vote related mission. Something else to keep in mind may be getting baited into using certain trigger words. For instance, perhaps the mafia player needs 3 people to say the phrase "OMGUS" during the cycle or something. Or we might be able to trigger a success on a vote related mission. | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
##vote: kitaman27 | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 03 2014 22:25 Vivax wrote: Oh and Oats I don't think Obi is scum from what I've seen so far. Too chill in my opipnion. As for 27nb: Don't see much need to expand atm cause I'm content with where this is heading, which is probably the lynch of that guy who doesn't seem to care about the game. I'm still awaiting for a more thorough explanation from bats about his first post. Was it some sort of trap play batsy? I just wanted to see what people would do if I posted an I Ching reading. I was also curious what the reading would be. The I Ching is useful in gaining insights. On September 03 2014 23:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Why is everybody ignoring batsnacks? What do you think people should be saying to me? If you have something to say you should come out and say it yourself. Don't hide behind others. If anyone wanted clarification on my kitaman27 vote, kitaman has said twice now that he wants to cut the day short. On September 02 2014 05:25 kitaman27 wrote: True, though at this point nobody has any proper reads for at least a few more hours. I'd prefer to to speculate to see if we can come up with any policies to break the system. For example, if we all agree to cut the day cycle short by one hour as if that were the deadline and then all move our votes to whoever had the majority at that point, we might be able to trigger a failure on a vote related mission. Something else to keep in mind may be getting baited into using certain trigger words. For instance, perhaps the mafia player needs 3 people to say the phrase "OMGUS" during the cycle or something. On September 02 2014 10:33 kitaman27 wrote: Well that idea would be that the day cycle would be like any other game, except 47 hours instead of 48 hours. You still would have 2 wagons and voting analysis could still be done since the player with the most votes after 47 hours would be lynched. The only difference would be that everyone moves to that player in the last hour. On second thought, people aren't really reliable enough to be around and now that the day is a few hours old, its not really worth discussing policy like that which isn't incredibly important so I say we should probably just drop the idea. Templar's long post wasn't all that interesting, but I won't fault him for sharing thoughts. It will be important to see if he continues to share thoughts rather than making disconnected catch up posts. batsnacks is around, but has chosen not to post so I wouldn't mind a couple of votes on him. Micchan is a reasonable alternative if he doesn't have anything to say either. I see batsnacks voting templar after a large low quality post, but I don't see how you automatically come to this conclusion that his is town based on his vote and assume he is playing provocative. It makes me suspicious of you and I wonder if you may know he is town and are attempting to come up with an suggestion that explains his play without the information being there. He's given a lot of effort to this cutting the day short idea. I think he feels strongly about it. I don't think cutting the day short or even talking about cutting the day short is pro-town. Like I said before, voting with the majority sounds like a very plausible mafia mission. So kitaman27 is mafia, his mission is that he needs to vote with the majority, and he put his vote on micchan because he believes micchan will be lynched. Look at these posts, he has been going after easy majorities since the very beginning: On September 02 2014 10:33 kitaman27 wrote: batsnacks is around, but has chosen not to post so I wouldn't mind a couple of votes on him. Micchan is a reasonable alternative if he doesn't have anything to say either. He said this when I was the vote leader. On September 03 2014 08:52 kitaman27 wrote: Micchan is definitely the low hanging fruit of the cycle. Typically I like pushing these types of lynches just as much as mafia do. I'm having trouble envisioning a scenario where he would be helpful on day three. The comment about 3d diverting attention seems sensationalized to me. His other post is a complaint without doing anything and a unnecessary defense. I might put myself in a bad spot if he flips green, but he may be my preferred lynch right now. Now he's going after micchan because micchan is the new majority leader. That sentence at the end is weird too. If kitaman27 is town, why would he worry about looking bad if he voted micchan and micchan flipped green? This is not something a townie worries about. The only reason he should be worried is if he feels he has voted micchan for bad reasons, and that people may come to suspect his bad reasons later. | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
| ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
| ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 04 2014 06:16 Tehpoofter wrote: Taunting will help. Why don't you tell me what we should have done and who was most benefited by the doctor lynch? Taunting does help. It helps me cope with ya'll. We should have NOT voted the easiest possible target d1 and mafia is most benefited by the doctor lynch. | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 04 2014 06:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Then why did you fuck off after you posted your case on kita? Why didn't you push your target harder? Why didn't you answer anyone else's questions when you came back into the thread? Why didn't you push/explain your scumreads on me/bunnies? I was busy. Why ask me these questions now and not when you are imagining they would be important? This discussion is meaningless now. | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 04 2014 06:46 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I asked you as soon as you came back into the thread and you completely ignored me. What in the actual fuck. Do you understand how bad it looks for you considering that you've been posting and pushing bullshit? Especially since you've done next to nothing to change the lynch target and you've been berating people for being wrong. I'm not berating people for being wrong. I am berating people for making bad decisions. The worst of which may be yet to come. On September 04 2014 06:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote: You are literally lying if you claim that you were busy because you made your giant kita post and then posted your nonsensical scumreads on bunnies and me. No, I'm literally not, and there is at least 1 scum between the two of you. | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 04 2014 06:51 Tehpoofter wrote: So is your bullshit taunt. Like how is it okay for you to be a dick about the lynch and say "omg I was right you guys are all dumb" .... "but i was busy so I couldn't say it at a relevant time now I'm going to bring it up and look like a genius while you guys look like idiots" Thats bullshit logic. You started the discussion if you can't handle the repercussions from it then don't bring it up. Your words not mine. I'll be curious to see where your words get you. On September 04 2014 06:53 ObiWanShinobi wrote: 1) Yes you are. You can call it whatever you want, but if you did nothing to fix it, then you don't get to sit here and talk down to people when you did next to fucking nothing. 2) You are. You were never busy. You were here the whole time and did fucking nothing. And you still haven't explained your read between bunnies and me. Why is there a scum between us? What makes you think that? 1) No, I'm not. I agree that I can call it whatever I want, but I am choosing to call it like it is. A bad decision was made, one I had no part in. I'm not accountable for others decisions especially when I've been posting to the best of my ability. 2) I was busy the entire time. Like why are you even debating this? I say I was busy, I was busy. I posted what I could, when I could, and that is true for all of my posts. | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 04 2014 06:51 Tehpoofter wrote: So is your bullshit taunt. Like how is it okay for you to be a dick about the lynch and say "omg I was right you guys are all dumb" .... "but i was busy so I couldn't say it at a relevant time now I'm going to bring it up and look like a genius while you guys look like idiots" Thats bullshit logic. You started the discussion if you can't handle the repercussions from it then don't bring it up. ebwop: poofter why did you say I was right? This is a really weird thing to say considering I was the only person who voted kitaman27. Do you think I was right about kitaman27? | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 04 2014 07:12 Damdred wrote: What are you talking about bats? Hes quoting you in a way. I never said that. Those were his words. Why did he say I was right? I -NEVER- insinuated that I was right. The only thing I said was that I didn't sheep the easiest target d1, like most people did. So why is he saying that I was right? | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 04 2014 07:14 Tehpoofter wrote: You we're right about Micchan being low hanging fruit and townie and that it was a bad wagon. Why would you think I was talking about kitaman? Are you mafia? | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
| ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 04 2014 07:18 Tehpoofter wrote: You 100% insinuated you were right lol. You sarcastically made the post that you guys went with the lynch that turned out the be the doctor while I was voting kitaman who is unknown. You were "right" in not voting for Micchan. You DEFINITELY were trying to get that point across don't try to say you weren.t That was after the lynch. Aren't you trying to say that I did knowingly let micchan die without defending him, while thinking he was town? I can quote where you said that, you know. | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 04 2014 07:38 Tehpoofter wrote: I was saying that you did shit all to prevent the lynch you were "busy" supposedly then afterwards you call everyone out sarcastically. So yes I was saying that when you are just as responsible for not trying to prevent it. You can't say we did the wrong thing and t hat you didn't think he was town and you were afk that just doesn't work I'm sorry but you just like a scumbag and a dick doing that. Not everyone can play mafia 24/7. Given that, my vote was in an excellent spot I stand by the decisions I made day 1; that isn't something the most people can say. | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
Obiwan why do you want to get me lynched so bad? You have been after me since the beginning. | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
| ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 05 2014 08:01 Tehpoofter wrote: I can't really tell on Batsnacks his first post was weird and the like taunting nature of his post after the micchan flip hit me the wrong way I really hate that he reacted like that. It felt super scummy to me at the time just like "lawl you idiots should have listened to me I was trying to tell you what to do" I do that as scum a lot as I'm sure you know where I "end up on the right side" of things before it was cool. I can see batsnacks doing that. Vivax I like I agree with a lot of his reads and he seems townie to me in his activity level and demeanor. What do you think of Kush? Bold has been noted but that isn't something I would do as scum. I only get miffed and taunt people when I'm town. I can understand you hating that I reacted to the mislynch that way. As town my posting tends to be stream of consciousness. I don't think a lot about what I'm posting I just... post. | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 05 2014 08:04 Tehpoofter wrote: Lol this makes me laugh want to talk about why you think Vivax is the scum over Obi and Kita? I don't think Vivax is scum, but scum Vivax likes to afk d2 after a successful d1. My intention is to give him extra motivation to prove he's town to me. | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 05 2014 08:13 Vivax wrote: Yeah I do that when I feel safe cause a sufficient amount of people think I'm town cause of D1. By voting for me you would put me on my guard actually making me play more past D1. Which would make your vote on me a terrible strategy cause it would actually lead to me not displaying my scum tell. You know by now how I love my terrible strategies. Is kitaman27 mafia? | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 05 2014 08:17 Vivax wrote: Anyone here who thinks kita is scum? duh | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 05 2014 08:19 Vivax wrote: Well when I read his posts the thing that comes to mind is: Artificial, excessively thought out. It's like he puts in a tremendous amount of effort to make them sound legitimate. I went back and tried to find a game or two where he was mafia. I found Doctor Who mafia or something. He posted a lot of gifs and one liners that game but there were some good posts. That had, at the time, diminished my scum read of him but he is someone I keep going back to. If I were a day vigi I would consider shooting him, but it would feel selfish. Do you think anything of the mission stuff I said to him? About how he was scum and his mission could be he has to vote with the majority. | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 05 2014 08:27 kushm4sta wrote: Bat snacks confirmed scum This post reeks of tmi. Kush, how do you know I'm mafia unless you're mafia? | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 05 2014 08:31 Vivax wrote: Why should I think about missions if I scumread him off his posts? I'd rather not use that line of reasoning here, we could have tested that theory D1 with sufficient consensus but now I'd rather not touch i again. Kush is still lynchable. Not by amount of posts which he justified with being busy but by the effort he puts into them. They lack the ambition town kush has. I can jive with that. We don't need to talk about missions. Missions aside I still agree with what you said about kitaman. Have you played with kitaman before? Me or kush? Or both? | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 05 2014 08:33 kushm4sta wrote: How does it simultaneously reek of tmi and be wrong? Very carefully. You're pro though I bet you could pull it off if you wanted to. | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 05 2014 08:37 Vivax wrote: You. What kind of argument is tmi unless you know you're indeed scum. Hang on a sec I can't tell you if I was serious or not yet because apparently I'm not finished. | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
Is obiwan really town? Your said he was town but I am struggling with this read. | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 05 2014 08:46 kitaman27 wrote: lol I've never seen "it looks like he's putting a tremendous amount of effort" as a reason to call someone scummy. If you think I'm mafia, come out and say it with a legitimate case, because you're not going to discredit my posts by calling them artificial without providing examples. @bats, just an fyi, that Doctor Who game that you looked at, I started out as town and was converted to mafia later on in the game. Will probably post about bunnies next. If you have time, will you link me a recent game where you where mafia? Maybe two games if you can so it's harder for you to pick one single weird game where you acted uncharacteristically. | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 05 2014 08:51 kitaman27 wrote: Since I'm in a good mood, I'll give you examples for everyone. Just for you. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/390080-tl-mafia-database#2 Had you not been in a good mood, what would you have responded with? | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
Is obiwan mafia? | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
Is bunnies mafia? | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 05 2014 09:06 kitaman27 wrote: Heh since he is repeating questions, you probably should respond in a new post to prevent the quote change from reaching 10. *Puts on tinfoil hat* How does this make you feel, mr tinfoil hat? ##unvote ##Vote: batsnacks ##unvote ##Vote: kitaman27 ##unvote ##Vote: Oatsmaster ##unvote ##Vote: Tehpoofter ##unvote ##Vote: Vivax ##unvote ##Vote: kushm4sta ##unvote ##Vote: ObiWanShinobi ##unvote ##Vote: mderg ##unvote ##Vote: 27ninjabunnies ##unvote ##Vote: Micchan ##unvote ##Vote: Damdred ##unvote ##Vote: The_Templar ##unvote ##Vote: 3d12 ##unvote | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
Just so we're clear, I'm not actually voting someone right now. | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
| ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 06 2014 01:22 27ninjabunnies wrote: Seriously! Doesn't this look like a guy who WANTS to be lynched. Everything he has done has irked me to no end Do you want to lynch me because you think I'm scum or because I irk you? | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 06 2014 01:52 kushm4sta wrote: batsnacks i think you;re scum but ofc im not certain. I did give some reasons behind my suspicion, though. Why do you think I'm scum? I'm not really sure yet. I was hoping that if I voted you you'd do something scummy and then I could just keep my vote there and relax. Nothing is ever that easy though is it? I think I am scum reading you because I don't think town!kush would be scum reading me right now. It is easier for me to believe that scum!kush wants to get rid of me because he feels like there is an opportunity. So maybe you can help me help you. What do I do to make you town read me, or at least scum read me for more satisfying reasons? Give me some hoops and I will try to jump. | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
| ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
| ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 06 2014 08:24 kushm4sta wrote: batsnacks i just looked at your filter closer pretty much. kita leaving your options open much? kita likes to leave his options open. This example comes to mind: On September 03 2014 08:52 kitaman27 wrote: List post time. Mostly Townish Tehpoofter - Wouldn't look into on day one due to activity. Generally agreeable. Vivax is an incredibly lazy scum from my experience, which isn't on par from what we've seen so far, which makes me lean town. He did pick up a spot where templar seemed to change opinions about myself, which shows he is reading. Wouldn't lynch. mderg - This is kinda silly but I'm leaning town due to "I thought a bit about how to deal with missions". The mafia team obviously wouldn't think about how to deal with the missions. It's always possible that he is mafia pretending to think about them to throw us off, but I'm not leaning that way right now. Damdred - "I really like the idea of trying to break the mafias mission as we go towards the Eo" This quote shows interest in generating a plan, which is generally townie thing to say. Again, probably a silly thing to make a read off of, but he would have to look pretty bad the second half of the day to consider lynching. batsnacks - "I don't know who are mafia yet" is generally something a townie will say earlier on in my opinion. Need more content. The_Templar - Townie....I think. obi does seem just as....blunt I suppose I'm look for....in the past games that I looked through as both alignments. I don't have a great feel one way or the other here. Scummyish oats is flying under the radar, which I associate with the last time he was scum that we played together. Effort seems suspect based on mentioning how he can't remember certain details multiple times. His posts make me think he has read the last 3-5 posts in the thread, picked one of them to reply to and moved on. kush is someone I usually think is scum. Whenever I look through his past games, as soon as I think I've found a pattern, he flips the opposite alignment and I need to throw the idea out the window. His speculation about templar having to post a "long post" as a mission was really poor and I don't see that as something a town player sees as likely so I have him closer to mafia than town right now, but I'd probably want to hear more opinions from others about his overall play so far. Micchan is definitely the low hanging fruit of the cycle. Typically I like pushing these types of lynches just as much as mafia do. I'm having trouble envisioning a scenario where he would be helpful on day three. The comment about 3d diverting attention seems sensationalized to me. His other post is a complaint without doing anything and a unnecessary defense. I might put myself in a bad spot if he flips green, but he may be my preferred lynch right now. I want to reread 3d since there were a bunch of things he said that rubbed me the wrong way, but I want to avoid the confirmation bias. I've ignored bunnies for the most part so I will reread her as well. I remember that she was commenting about a few things way past it being relevant, but that's about it. | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 03 2014 00:44 27ninjabunnies wrote: So a fool's win condition is to be lynched (hey, could be a mafia mission too). Basically, I'm trying to keep all my options open. It's how I approach the game. For all I know, we don't even have 3p or vigi. But it was just an idea. So, therefore, that's why I said shoot him rather than lynch. As for 3d12, more of a gut read, but I don't like his posting. Sure the bs read is slightly based on that, but his posting is awkward in general. | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
I don't even know who I'm voting for because the host lost interest after I broke his game or something. Just in case I'm still voting for kush, which I shouldn't be right now. Feel the pressure mafia. ##unvote ##vote: kitaman27 | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 06 2014 09:34 Tehpoofter wrote: Real vote count please!!! What made you think kush was more townie? I forgot about a couple of his posts earlier there he was telling people to back off me when he definitely didn't have to. So, he was scum reading me, but he was telling people who voted me for bad reasons to back off. That's townie. | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
| ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
| ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 06 2014 09:52 kitaman27 wrote: Here is the plan that we should take. batsnacks is going with the idea that "the host lost interest after he broke his game", the only reason to think that is that if batsnack actually has a role related to voting that could actually involve the host being concerned about the votes. I propose that batsnacks role claims. If he fails, we should lynch him because he is trolling about the idea that 3d put out there. There is zero reason to assume that the host is concerned about breaking the game as vanilla town. That is really, really optimistic of you. | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
That that is really, really optimistic of you. | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 06 2014 09:55 kitaman27 wrote: Can we be serious for just 60 seconds, that's all I ask. Do you honestly believe that the host was upset with you about your votes for role related reasons? I'm disappointed. On September 06 2014 00:28 kitaman27 wrote: You don't make reads off of mod warnings, ever. | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 06 2014 09:59 kitaman27 wrote: Nope, I'm not making a read off the mod warning. I'm asking you if you were stated "because the host lost interest after I broke his game or something" as something that you actually believe to be true or you stated it to poke fun at 3d. If you're not making a read off of it then I don't understand why you want me to answer. 3d12 isn't scum. I have expressed this previously. You already had that information before this dialog. | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 06 2014 10:03 kitaman27 wrote: I'm not asking about 3d. I'm asking, do honestly think that it's possible that the host is worried that you broke his game or were you saying it as a joke? What do you think? | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 06 2014 10:07 kitaman27 wrote: I'm asking you. This doesn't need to be so difficult. Considering you were so completely confident that I am mafia, why does it take a random 1 liner from kush and a joke vote from Obi for you to finally vote me. Weren't you in an "excellent spot" yesterday and you stand by you're decision? Now you're voting me in passing, saying that you'll probably end up on kush. Quote where I said I will probably end up on kush today and I will unvote you. | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 06 2014 10:11 kitaman27 wrote: Misread that. The point still stands, why have you completely ignored your number one scumread. Is your case still that you think I had to be on the majority day one or are there any posts today that lead you to your conclusion? Everyone else was townreading you. I thought I was wrong for a quick minute; which, I'm wrong sometimes. I actually had a massive campaign planned against you but I dropped it at the very last minute. If you want to see it post game remind me, it's still in my notepad. I have since remembered how right I was though, and you're doing a terrible job convincing me otherwise. Let me give you some hoops to jump through. Tell me about Vivax and bunnies. | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
My vote is in a good spot. | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
| ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 06 2014 10:20 Tehpoofter wrote: Twice I've tried to pressure him this game and twice been denied before he even has a chance to respond(thats just this day if you ignore day 1). I think you can understand I am not just going to trust you off your word. I'd like to see from 3d12 where his heads at. If he convinces me then I'm okay moving off but if not I'm going to pressure someone I think is scummy. I'm ok with this response. You do what you do you have my full support. Just fyi though 3d12 said "batwagon" and that's hilarious so he's probably not mafia. | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 06 2014 10:23 kitaman27 wrote: poofter, do you agree that batsnacks should post his "case in notepad" against me as proof that he is not lying? If he continues to wait, that just gives him time to make one up, Dude you should do motivational speaking. Your optimism is off the charts. | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
| ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
##vote: ObiWanShinobi | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 06 2014 10:31 kitaman27 wrote: So to be clear, you're not posting your case hidden away in notepad? Like I said, mention it post game. It is pure bat-gold. | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
| ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
| ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 06 2014 10:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Both of those people are town. Do you disagree? I think Vivax is town. Bunnies I'm null on... her activity is the same now as when she was playing two games (cell and this one). I don't think bunnies is playing her scum game though. I wouldn't vote her this cycle, not seriously at least, since technically I have already voted every person in the game this cycle. | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 06 2014 10:43 Damdred wrote: Where have you been all my life batsnacks? Damdred you're a very logical person. Is kitaman27 mafia or am I crazy? Or both? | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
| ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 06 2014 11:15 Damdred wrote: I mean why do you think town and null atm in more detail ive never seen a bunnies scum before Vivax I think is town because I mostly agree with him and I like everything he's said about me. It is a semi-selfish read but I believe I am right. Also we had a conversation at the beginning of the day that I liked. Bunnies I have only played one game with when she was scum (I think)... and it was cell mafia, so it was a completely different kind of game altogether. In that game I scum read her correctly very early on. This game I am neutral on her. This is not similar to the game I played where she was scum. | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 07 2014 00:34 3d12 wrote: Well, good morning to you too! I haven't been ignoring the posts. I actually think poofter is pretty scummy too, but I don't have my notes with me to type up my case. I could maybe reconstruct the case from his posts, but I would need coffee first. As for right now, I'm still catching up. Might take a break to get coffee, ease the process along. If you have any opinions/answers you want, post. I'll respond to whatever relevant ones I find, but idk if you're looking for a particular repsonse over others. I'm always super suspicious when people say they've made hand written notes about the game. Why would anyone do that? You need a computer to play, why not use a word processor so you can copy paste? So my reason for posting right now is I don't believe your lame "don't have my notes can't post what I want" excuse. | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 07 2014 00:59 3d12 wrote: That's nice. At my job, they fire people who plug removable storage media into the computers and the firewall blocks google docs. So if I want to be able to access my notes at work, they have to be on paper. And why use a word processor when my notes are just +'s and -'s with short reasons and post #'s? Also, this is just a silly post coming from "I have a case built in notepad but don't want to show you" guy. That's even more suspect than my "I have notes, but I cba to go across town to get them" post. How did your mission go? So your firewall blocks google docs but it doesn't block tl.net... right... Every enterprise level web filter I have ever worked with blocks tl.net because it is "Gaming related content." | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
| ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
##unvote ##vote: 3d12 | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 07 2014 01:10 3d12 wrote: Hey, you're just as baffled as I am. Reddit's not blocked either, only certain subreddits. Go figure. Probably a gamer on the IT staff. If it helps though, we deal with PII so info security is a huge thing. Google docs is blocked under "cloud storage and remote file transfer" Tell me the name of the webfilter your company is using and I will consider unvoting you. It should say the name of the filter whenever you try to view a blocked page which, you have done before. | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 07 2014 01:24 kushm4sta wrote: i was under the impression that modkills for not voting weren't happening until later? I really cant konw if he's still playing or not. Only he knows that. I don't think you are mafia. Who are you voting today? mderg? | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 07 2014 01:28 kushm4sta wrote: not sure who I'm voting today. I dont have a great candidate atm. how much time do we have? 3 and a half hours I think | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 07 2014 01:30 Vivax wrote: Also I don't see how you come to the conclusion that bats is in any way confirmed town through what happened just now. He can still be mafia, it's just that the hosts won't allow you to figure him out that way. 3d12 should still be scum reading me even though his experiment failed. I have switched votes a lot today with or without the spam. He thinks switching votes was my mission, he voted me because he thought that was my mission and that I "cheesed" it with my spam post. | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
| ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
| ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 07 2014 01:40 Vivax wrote: Why did you say that you broke the game for the host. Because I was irritated, and the host disappeared. | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 07 2014 01:46 Vivax wrote: Then vote for him. No one with 3d's balls at finding scum with such a plan could be scum. Switch with me? | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
Not while everyone is watching. ##unvote ##vote: Damdred | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 07 2014 01:53 Vivax wrote: Cause at the time most people were on him and I wanted a majority driven wagon before it's 1 h pre-lynch. Which you would know if you read the thread at the time when I voted for him. Between you and him I don't care who goes first. Scum or scum =scum. Vivax if you're scum and you slipped here I'm going to be upset. | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
| ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 07 2014 03:03 kitaman27 wrote: Do you intend to respond to this? You posted about some random "scumslip" instead. Damdred is posting weird and I don't think kush is mafia. I was trying to reach a compromise with Vivax... which is off now. Anyway I still think you're probably mafia so don't be surprised when you aren't getting my full attention. ##unvote | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 06 2014 13:01 27ninjabunnies wrote: This mess makes me want to go to bed and just not even look at the thread. And that's exactly what I'm going to do. Long shift+ running on 5 hours of sleep in the last 2 nights does not bode well. I'll post in the morning. Who wants to vote bunnies? I'm not voting kush today. | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 07 2014 03:30 Vivax wrote: This game is so brutal. It feels like I have to murder a baby seal. I need a new hand bag. | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 07 2014 03:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Also I don't know who to vote. Want to vote bunnies? kush wants to vote bunnies kitaman27 said he scum read bunnies, maybe he will I would vote bunnies That's already a majority. | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 07 2014 03:46 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I'm pretty sure you're on my anti sheep list. This makes me want to sheep you just to mess with you. | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 07 2014 03:47 kushm4sta wrote: batsnacks, why bunnies over damdred? I'm trying to find something the people I'm town reading agree on. | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 07 2014 03:48 batsnacks wrote: I'm trying to find something the people I'm town reading agree on. Which seems to be Damdred right now. ##vote: Damdred | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 07 2014 04:05 kitaman27 wrote: Like in what world does a town player do this? What I wrote before doesn't apply now. | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
| ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 07 2014 04:22 kitaman27 wrote: Damdred is the guy you should be yelling at for going dark. Why should he post, everyone stopped voting him? | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
| ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
| ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 07 2014 04:28 Damdred wrote: I'm the cop checked kish he's green Liar. | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 07 2014 04:29 kushm4sta wrote: ##unvote ##vote batsncaks self preservatoin STOP IT KUSH. DAMDRED JUST CLAIMED SCUM WHAT ARE YOU DOING? | ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
| ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
| ||
|
batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On September 07 2014 04:36 HaruRH wrote: Invalid votes (after 12.30) The deadline isn't until 4:00 EST ?!?!?!?!?! | ||
| ||
