Mission Mini Mafia - Page 37

On September 04 2014 11:24 Vivax wrote:


Cause as mafia you don't give a single fuck about the game and give off an aura of disinterestedness and you just went and double checked what Oats wrote.

On September 03 2014 03:07 3d12 wrote:


If you'd asked me this 4 hours in, I'd have read Obi as green as I did bat. His opening vote was similarly provocative, and there was little reason to suspect. Since pushing to have bat plynched though, Obi has pointed fingers at two other parties and is acting much more defensive. I'm not voting yet, but Obi is definitely on my radar.



What posts? Aside from a suspicious(ly silly) read on poofter and a CTA for a vigi on bat, she hasn't contributed much to the discussion so far. If anything, if the deadline was right now and I had to cast my vote, I think 27nb would be my choice. Stepping up and trying to publicly read poofter as town based on nothing but troll posts gives me a bad feeling that there may even be a bus straight to LYLO going on under our noses.

On September 04 2014 03:53 3d12 wrote:
Hey everyone, sorry for going MIA yesterday. I got dragged into a bit of a mess IRL that ended up sucking up my night. I lurked the thread on my phone when I could get service, and took down some notes:



With my personal notes out of the way, let's move on to direct responses:



Up until this post in the thread, bunnies' biggest contribution to the thread was to town claim for the person she's been buddying/bantering with throughout the whole thread. Suspicious? Yes. Lynchable? Not by itself.

I also particularly disliked the way bunnies was gathering information, going from defensive short-posts to prodding people for their reads and then replying to each one-by-one. Generally, townies are more willing to share their reads, instead of needing to base their perspective on other people's reads.

Today's bunnies is a bit different from yesterday's bunnies, in that she's laid out a list of her reads. No information or explanation, but at least she's sharing. I do like that.



The read is silly because it was based entirely on meta. A person's meta can change from game to game. This read came from nothing tangible. For example, it would be impossible for me to have the same read on poof because I've never played with him. Since you and I have been exposed to the same information this game, you are using information I have not been exposed to to make a claim on someone else. That is absolutely 100% fishy, would you agree?

As for my reads on poofter, see point 3 from my "last night's notes" above, and my list of reads below.



Anyone else thinking that mderg is trying hard to get some focus on me? I wasn't the only one to nullread/townread bat yesterday. And yes, traditionally from my live mafia experience, provocative openings are usually townies. It's probably an 80/20 split. I never confirmed him green, but I pointed out that bat looked town from the way he opened. If you have a better reason to scumread him instead, why not post your reasoning?



This was all the reasoning I could find in your filter, and it's pretty weak. So, how about it, mderg? Batsnacks: scum or town?

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Mafia
ObiWanShinobi (Very non-committal so far, easily switched vote from "troll vote" to batsnacks once it seemed like bat was being scumread. Hesitant to share information. Off-topic posts. Only real redeeming quality so far is calling out kush, very pro-town move.)
mderg (Repeatedly pushing the "ignore the missions" idea, provoking reactions from players while not disclosing any information himself, heavy lurking, generally defensive)
kushm4sta (Tunnel-vision on batsnacks, trying to start a plynch, low activity otherwise)
Micchan (Inactivity, defensive, no thoughts shared, no case built, suspicious bandwagoning)

Mafia-likely (Pink)
TehPoofter (High voting pressure, starting a bandwagon/plynch, very large filter, calls people out on buddying while blatantly attempting to buddy, redeemed so far by good questioning of Templar's motives)
Oatsmaster (Avoiding all talk about missions, redirecting scum claims towards bat and Obi, not posting thoughts openly)

Neutral (White)
The_Templar (Good expression and information-sharing, challenges unnatural ideas/thoughts, sensibly pieces together a motive. Neutral because of weak (meta/defensive) defense about his role)
Vivax (Strange read on poofter, but otherwise constructs very sensible and well-put-together posts pointing out discrepancies. Without the pink vibe from his accusations toward kita and templar, would likely be very town atm.)
Damdred (No real read yet, seems to be gathering information. Is asking the right questions, but not sharing information openly)
27ninjabunnies (Good info balanced out by suspicious buddying/claiming)

Town
batsnacks (I wasn't sure at first, but after your expose on kita, I know you're looking in the right places. Your investigation is solid and you're providing direct responses to your challenges. I highly doubt kita is scum, but I like the way you think.)
kitaman27 (The main source of information so far imo, this guy is posting very good reads and keeping good notes. Only scummy behavior so far is what was pointed out by Vivax, but without further proof I'm willing to let it slide as a poor choice of words)

All in all, I don't like the idea of a plynch. However, I less like the idea of scum lurking the thread and hopping on whatever bandwagon is hot at the time. Let's change that.

##Vote: Micchan

On September 04 2014 11:43 27ninjabunnies wrote:
So, the conversations here have been pretty interesting..


Seriously, batsnacks needs to die!

There's been like 4 or 5 times Obi has asked BS to give his read as to why there's one between me and him, and BS still has refused to answer.

Why are you avoiding it so much, Bat?

Also, Dam, how can you be reading me, Bat, and 3d as mafia when I've been pushing on Bat, and called 3d scum/neutral scum earlier?

On September 04 2014 12:35 The_Templar wrote:

Can anyone else confirm this?
(I'm off to bed)

On September 04 2014 12:38 Vivax wrote:
Templar feels like very tunnel visioned to me.
However he has 6 pages of filter so far so I don't feel like he's one of the guys I would lynch any time soon.

I would be interested into knowing what his other options are however.

On September 04 2014 12:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


This seems to happen to you a lot.

I think it's hilarious.

On September 04 2014 12:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Templar, Vivax can base his reads off of meta because he has tons of first hand experience of playing with both of us.

They look like shitty reasons to you because we've never played together.

On September 04 2014 06:39 batsnacks wrote:


I was busy.

Why ask me these questions now and not when you are imagining they would be important? This discussion is meaningless now.

On September 04 2014 13:05 3d12 wrote:


This post bothers me the most so far. Unless it's sarcasm, then disregard.

Why would an individual's meta be relevant at all? I understand the nature of certain people may not change much, but especially in a forum-based game, is it really so hard to believe that people would act differently from game to game?

Because to be honest, it does look like the shittiest reason. I don't like this read from Vivax at all. If you can challenge this view, I'd welcome you to do so. No hate, and I promise I'm reading. Keep in mind that people interpret things differently, and that's part of the fun of Mafia. What one person may not see in a post, someone else might.