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3d12
United States100 Posts
On September 05 2014 02:54 kushm4sta wrote: Lol 3rd sc um are never gonna think about their actions strategically like that What makes you say that? Personal meta, or a read you've got? This is a very strange insight, one that a townie typically wouldn't have... | ||
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3d12
United States100 Posts
On September 05 2014 03:15 kushm4sta wrote: Chillax I got 6 scum reads Be careful with that. The last person who posted 6 scum reads had a wagon started against him for it.  For real though, 6? Who? Also, do you play "townie until proven scum" or "scummy until proven town?" | ||
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3d12
United States100 Posts
On September 05 2014 03:43 kushm4sta wrote: 3rd I chose scummy till proven town. And the other thing just comes from playing a lot of forum mafia Mah nigga. +1 town point. So how do you weigh in on the meta topic, then? Do you think RL mafia and forum mafia have similar metas, or would you consider them very different? | ||
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3d12
United States100 Posts
On September 05 2014 04:35 sqrtofneg1 wrote: The_Templar the Vanilla Townie has died. Welp, guess I have to take a closer look at this filter. Good thing my work day has been fairly slow so far. Vivax, you seemed to have an issue with Templar's posts. Any thoughts, now that he's no longer among the posting? | ||
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3d12
United States100 Posts
gg man  | ||
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3d12
United States100 Posts
On September 05 2014 04:29 kitaman27 wrote: <snip> Imagine if you're in his shoes. You're dead set that I'm on a mafia mission to vote with the majority. You know you can't get me lynched. What do you do? You convince town to force me to vote outside the majority. It wouldn't have changed the outcome, and as a mafia player, if I were to fail a mission, it would mean my death. That's just as good as a lynch. He didn't even bother asking. In the meantime, while he is running around with his head cut off, he never even gives an opinion on Micchan. I think bat's opinion of Micchan was implied when he was calling him the "easy lynch." This is further compounded by his response to Vivax: On September 03 2014 08:08 batsnacks wrote: <snip> 1) Both and I think the two are related. <snip> Aside from that, I want to personally high-five you for echoing my sentiments exactly. I thought something didn't feel right with bat's wagon, I just couldn't put my finger on what it was. I came very close to the same conclusion though, as quoted: On September 04 2014 13:10 3d12 wrote: He does have a point. To be honest, it looks like the way you started your wagon could have even been the point of a mission. Something like "be the only vote on a target" or "have X number of targets by EoD." I liked your reasoning on the kita case, but give me a reason to like it. Why not push your target, especially so close to deadline? Though, the one aspect of missions that we seem to be assuming as true is that each mafia member has a different mission. Note the target distribution at the end of D1: On September 04 2014 04:29 sqrtofneg1 wrote: Vote Count – Day 1 27ninjabunnies (1): Tehpoofter (0): The_Templar (1): batsnacks (2): Micchan (6): ObiWanShinobi (0): kitaman27 (1): batsnacks Vivax (0): 3d12 (2): ObiWanShinobi, mderg If we clean that up to only the people with votes on them at the end of the day, we get 27nb (1), batsnacks (2), Micchan (6), kitaman27 (1), and 3d12 (2) for a total of five lynch candidates. If we back up a few hours, to the last vote count that was more than an hour before the deadline: On September 03 2014 11:04 sqrtofneg1 wrote: Vote Count – Day 1 27ninjabunnies (0): Tehpoofter (0): The_Templar (0): batsnacks (2): kushm4sta, Obiwanshinobi Micchan (1): Tehpoofter Obiwanshinobi (1): Oatsmaster Three targets. Granted, the timeline between these two posts is extensive, but a few things stick out immediately to me: 1) Two wagons started up within eight hours of the deadline, both on quite flimsy cases, and both without much attempt to get others onboard (me and kita) 2) On each wagon, the people who supported/townread the wagoner neglected to vote with them (me on the kitawagon, 27nb on Obi's dicewagon) 3) No follow-up has been posted from either wagoner to try and rekindle the fire for D2 This is absolutely suspicious behavior, and seems far too similar to be a coincidence. kitaman, you're top town imo. | ||
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3d12
United States100 Posts
Also, what happened to that reads list you were going to post last night? You seemed fairly confident last time you posted one, so just because you wagoned a mislynch that means all your reads are off? | ||
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3d12
United States100 Posts
##Vote batsnacks | ||
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3d12
United States100 Posts
I have a busy workload, and left all my notes at home, so if I find time I'll write up something quick. Otherwise, don't expect too much out of me for the next eight hours.  | ||
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3d12
United States100 Posts
Does anyone else find this suspicious? On September 05 2014 09:16 batsnacks wrote: Just so we're clear, I'm not actually voting someone right now. First of all, why the host warning? This screams mission to me, since I doubt bat would have been warned for changing his vote otherwise. At least, I'm pretty sure we can vote an unlimited number of times before deadline. And why the defensive clarification? Obviously, he ended his post "not actually voting someone," since his last vote was an unvote. Why specify this to the host, unless it had something to do with a quantification? Conclusion: batsnacks has a mission to vote X number of times today. Any explanation for this, bat? Any clarification from √(-1)? | ||
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3d12
United States100 Posts
On September 06 2014 00:23 kitaman27 wrote: I think you're leading down the wrong path there 3d. This is probably the strangest post I've seen from you yet, kita. Many potential missions have been pointed out by you and you've been really good at pointing out/heading off potential mission-like behavior. What makes you say this couldn't be true? Honestly, from the way your viewpoint changed without any clarification, it sounds like you're trying to pull me off of bat's trail. I'm townreading you so far, so give me a reason to keep doing so. Why is this mod warning irrelevant? | ||
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3d12
United States100 Posts
On September 06 2014 00:28 kitaman27 wrote: You don't make reads off of mod warnings, ever. How about in a scenario with potential death hanging over whether or not you fulfill your mission? I believe a mod would warn bat for trying to cheese his mission and complete it in one post. Without clarification from √(-1) though, it's impossible to tell. The way I see it, if this has nothing to do with a mission, √(-1) should clarify why bat was warned, since his behavior didn't seem outwardly worthy of a warning. If no clarification comes forth, I'm forced to believe it's to protect the integrity of the game, i.e. mission-related. Would you disagree? | ||
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3d12
United States100 Posts
On September 06 2014 00:32 kitaman27 wrote: That would be handled privately in my opinion. More likely, its in incredibly pain for a host to record 10 votes and unvotes on a voting history. So hitting CTRL+V 9 times is worth warning a player? I'll believe it when I hear it from the host. In the meantime, I suggest we keep a closer eye on bat. I was one of the ones who wrote off his intro post as nonsense, but his actions have gotten fishier lately, and that intro post keeps popping back into my mind like it's somehow relevant. You analyzed the intro post he posted and if I recall, you said there was a small section missing? Could you paste or link the missing section? If I have time over my lunch break, I'd like to poke into that a bit myself. | ||
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3d12
United States100 Posts
On September 06 2014 00:38 kushm4sta wrote: 3d do you also think Jews did 911 This made me laugh harder than it probably should have. Thanks. And no, I don't. Did that warning seem completely inconspicuous to you, kush? | ||
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3d12
United States100 Posts
On September 06 2014 01:14 batsnacks wrote: ##vote: kushm4sta dis gon b gud  | ||
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United States100 Posts
On September 05 2014 00:16 3d12 wrote: That was fun. For our next exercise in perception, I'd like you to analyze the motive behind this post. Not the content of the post itself, but I'd like you to explain to me why you think 27nb said this: Repeating my question to Vivax, for when he returns. I'd like you to provide a clearer perception of your view on bunnies. Quote any relevant posts, if not the above. | ||
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3d12
United States100 Posts
On September 06 2014 02:30 Oatsmaster wrote: ##unvote ##vote kush Oats: Your vote was already on kush? Why vote again, especially without further reason? On a related note, sqrtofneg1, could we get a current vote tally? When you get a moment, of course. | ||
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3d12
United States100 Posts
On September 06 2014 02:59 kushm4sta wrote: Reconsideration of batsnacks as town This idea looks pretty solidly townie. Also the more I think about his "kita needs to vote with the majority idea," the more it seems like too dumb to be scum. When you get a chance kush, I'd like you to expand on the bolded part, please. What do you mean by "too dumb to be scum?" Personally, I liked that case, even if I didn't agree with his conclusion. | ||
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3d12
United States100 Posts
On September 06 2014 03:12 kushm4sta wrote: of course you would like that case... We have zero information about the terms of the missions. Speculating something as specific as that and basing a scumread off of it is ridiculous. So ridiculous that scum would probably never make that argument. Originally I said it indicated tmi. But that is wrong. Scum would not go into lengths about a theory informed by their knowledge of their own missions. No scum is that dumb. Of course I would. Any case that helps root out scum, directly or indirectly, helps us as a whole. And zero information about the terms of the missions doesn't cripple us as much as you might like us to believe. We can infer about certain objectives the host may have arranged and gauge reactions accordingly. I don't like how it seems like you're trying to throw us off that trail. Also, I rather dislike the disparity between "So ridiculous that scum would probably never make that argument" and "No scum is that dumb." (emphasis mine) It seems like you started writing your post in one frame of mind, then switched to another frame of mind to make your point seem less shaky. If anything reeks of tmi in this post, it's that. | ||
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3d12
United States100 Posts
On September 06 2014 03:48 kushm4sta wrote: damdred "no scum is that dumb" and "scum would probably never make that argument" are the same thing. one is just exaggerated. but they represent the same mindset. Maybe it's just me, but I don't like this defensive tone. ##unvote ##Vote kushm4sta You have one chance from me. I was reading you town prior to today, but now I'm willing to put the batwagon on hold to pin you on this: Post your updated reads, or explain in clear terms why batsnacks couldn't be scum. You may quote any posts you would like to make this argument, not just the one you were referencing initially. | ||
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