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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
September 02 2014 03:03 GMT
#241
Poofter I'm currently townreading you but I still would like to know how buddying people is a valid heuristic for people being scum.

In my opinion it's just a buzzword related to a bad heuristic and I would appreciate if you didn't scumread people off so lazy reasons. There is literally no logic behind buddying=scum, if you could even call what I did like that, which is comparing my reads with people whose town play I value.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
September 02 2014 03:05 GMT
#242
On September 02 2014 12:01 kushm4sta wrote:
are you her boyfriend though?


still no.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
September 02 2014 03:06 GMT
#243
Have you been physically mistreated by bunnies in the past for bold statements?
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
September 02 2014 03:11 GMT
#244
On September 02 2014 12:03 Vivax wrote:
Poofter I'm currently townreading you but I still would like to know how buddying people is a valid heuristic for people being scum.

In my opinion it's just a buzzword related to a bad heuristic and I would appreciate if you didn't scumread people off so lazy reasons. There is literally no logic behind buddying=scum, if you could even call what I did like that, which is comparing my reads with people whose town play I value.


I think buddying is something mafia does often maybe not out right but its a valuable tactic to get town read by someone who has a lot of influence in town and ride that "x thought I was town" mantra until the end. So I disagree its a bad heuristic its something I look for always when I'm playing.

The point is that buddying is a scum tactic a good one and I'm going to call it out if I see it happening.

Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
September 02 2014 03:12 GMT
#245
On September 02 2014 12:06 Vivax wrote:
Have you been physically mistreated by bunnies in the past for bold statements?


repeatedly.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
September 02 2014 03:13 GMT
#246
Ok I didn't know what Poofter meant until I googled it.

We should change topics. So basically I have this feeling that kita and templar are scummies.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
September 02 2014 03:14 GMT
#247
On September 02 2014 12:11 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2014 12:03 Vivax wrote:
Poofter I'm currently townreading you but I still would like to know how buddying people is a valid heuristic for people being scum.

In my opinion it's just a buzzword related to a bad heuristic and I would appreciate if you didn't scumread people off so lazy reasons. There is literally no logic behind buddying=scum, if you could even call what I did like that, which is comparing my reads with people whose town play I value.


I think buddying is something mafia does often maybe not out right but its a valuable tactic to get town read by someone who has a lot of influence in town and ride that "x thought I was town" mantra until the end. So I disagree its a bad heuristic its something I look for always when I'm playing.

The point is that buddying is a scum tactic a good one and I'm going to call it out if I see it happening.



Yeah but townies buddy too, it's then called town circle and I don't see how you decide that I'm scum buddying over town buddying.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
September 02 2014 03:15 GMT
#248
On September 02 2014 12:13 Vivax wrote:
Ok I didn't know what Poofter meant until I googled it.

We should change topics. So basically I have this feeling that kita and templar are scummies.


I'm not a poofter name is a long story

Kita and templar I dislike the templar read as it seems to be an association read from kita who I currently don't think is particularly scummy.

Whatd you think of Damdred's brief stay in the thread?
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
September 02 2014 03:15 GMT
#249
On September 02 2014 12:14 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2014 12:11 Tehpoofter wrote:
On September 02 2014 12:03 Vivax wrote:
Poofter I'm currently townreading you but I still would like to know how buddying people is a valid heuristic for people being scum.

In my opinion it's just a buzzword related to a bad heuristic and I would appreciate if you didn't scumread people off so lazy reasons. There is literally no logic behind buddying=scum, if you could even call what I did like that, which is comparing my reads with people whose town play I value.


I think buddying is something mafia does often maybe not out right but its a valuable tactic to get town read by someone who has a lot of influence in town and ride that "x thought I was town" mantra until the end. So I disagree its a bad heuristic its something I look for always when I'm playing.

The point is that buddying is a scum tactic a good one and I'm going to call it out if I see it happening.



Yeah but townies buddy too, it's then called town circle and I don't see how you decide that I'm scum buddying over town buddying.


I agree with you there that you don't have to be scum to buddy but I think scum benefit from it more where town can buddy up but usually don't do it so early and as a first interaction.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 02 2014 03:16 GMT
#250
@3d when you return could you talk more about why you think bat is doing that (as in him being provocative etc) and why town bats would just do that and run out of the thread? Feels like you are giving him a pass on it to easily at this point, though I do not think it is beyond town bats to do it either.


On September 02 2014 09:32 Micchan wrote:
Its only the start of the phase #mess


Why complain and run out of the thread, give us some thoughts about whats going on in the thread.



The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
September 02 2014 03:16 GMT
#251
On September 02 2014 12:13 Vivax wrote:
Ok I didn't know what Poofter meant until I googled it.

We should change topics. So basically I have this feeling that kita and templar are scummies.

This is sort of an odd post, considering this has already been discussed.
On September 02 2014 11:23 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2014 11:14 Vivax wrote:
That's exactly the feeling I got from Templar's post and the feeling I get from you is that you're trying to shove it under a carpet after feeling the same.


So you're saying that I uncovered a scummy post from my scum buddy templar, pointed it out, and then decided to minimize the severity by "shoving it under a carpet"?

meh I called the post a disconnected catchup post because it was. I shared my displeasure about those type of posts, decided that it's not significant enough to push right now, and pushed templar in the direction to not do it again.

On September 02 2014 11:30 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2014 11:23 kitaman27 wrote:
On September 02 2014 11:14 Vivax wrote:
That's exactly the feeling I got from Templar's post and the feeling I get from you is that you're trying to shove it under a carpet after feeling the same.


So you're saying that I uncovered a scummy post from my scum buddy templar, pointed it out, and then decided to minimize the severity by "shoving it under a carpet"?

meh I called the post a disconnected catchup post because it was. I shared my displeasure about those type of posts, decided that it's not significant enough to push right now, and pushed templar in the direction to not do it again.


You didn't seem displeased, you gave us a reason for you to not pursue it further. If you were displeased I'd expect you to be more confrontational than that, where you give yourself a reason to ignore it.

Why bring it up at all if it's of no relevance for you afterwards? That's what I also don't understand from a town pov. I'd expect you to mention things you find worthwhile mentioning and if you mention that but don't apply it at all to your templar read cause apparently it doesn't say enough for you then it just looks like an issue you would find scummy usually, but here you play it down.

Looking at these two posts a second time remind me that kita has been sort of switching back and forth over whether something is ideal/relevant. Making a note to keep track of this.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
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Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
September 02 2014 03:18 GMT
#252
On September 02 2014 12:16 Damdred wrote:
@3d when you return could you talk more about why you think bat is doing that (as in him being provocative etc) and why town bats would just do that and run out of the thread? Feels like you are giving him a pass on it to easily at this point, though I do not think it is beyond town bats to do it either.


Show nested quote +
On September 02 2014 09:32 Micchan wrote:
Its only the start of the phase #mess


Why complain and run out of the thread, give us some thoughts about whats going on in the thread.





I didn't even see this post tbh..... thats really weird.


##unvote

##Vote: Micchan



Hai fix the mess please.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
September 02 2014 03:18 GMT
#253
I generally have the feeling that you two have a hard time giving opinions about each other in the thread.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
September 02 2014 03:20 GMT
#254
On September 02 2014 12:18 Vivax wrote:
I generally have the feeling that you two have a hard time giving opinions about each other in the thread.


You mean Templar and Kita right?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
September 02 2014 03:20 GMT
#255
It's a bunch of

K:"there's this but let's wait and see"
TT: "K discussing this but white"
TT." tis actually scummy"
TT: "Oh wait I misread I take it back, but this maybe is scummy"

et cetera
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
September 02 2014 03:22 GMT
#256
And I don't see how the post is odd just cause it already has discussed. It's my job to direct the attention to things I find worthy of attention even after the focus has slipped to another location.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
September 02 2014 03:26 GMT
#257
On September 02 2014 12:20 Vivax wrote:
It's a bunch of

K:"there's this but let's wait and see"
TT: "K discussing this but white"
TT." tis actually scummy"
TT: "Oh wait I misread I take it back, but this maybe is scummy"

et cetera

I'm going to bed now, but I will try to take a closer look at other players tomorrow instead of focusing primarily on kita. There already seems to be very strange stuff about to happen.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
September 02 2014 03:27 GMT
#258
I have no issues with Damdred at this point poofter.

Not sure what to make of micchan cause he seems experienced with mafia based on his post but apparently hes no smurf, he posted outside of the mafia subforum which usually isnt allowed for smurfs but reaaaaally not sure.

If I had to guess at a smurf id have guessed at palmar for using a hashtag and being lurky.

There's way not enough for me to scumread him off that however.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
September 02 2014 03:27 GMT
#259
On September 02 2014 12:22 Vivax wrote:
And I don't see how the post is odd just cause it already has discussed. It's my job to direct the attention to things I find worthy of attention even after the focus has slipped to another location.

And it was odd because you said "Let's change the discussion to ___" when we were recently discussing it
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
September 02 2014 03:28 GMT
#260
On September 02 2014 12:27 Vivax wrote:
I have no issues with Damdred at this point poofter.

Not sure what to make of micchan cause he seems experienced with mafia based on his post but apparently hes no smurf, he posted outside of the mafia subforum which usually isnt allowed for smurfs but reaaaaally not sure.

If I had to guess at a smurf id have guessed at palmar for using a hashtag and being lurky.

There's way not enough for me to scumread him off that however.


I didn't realize it was a not smurf.

I could 100% see palmar doing this.
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