EPTIt'll be like old times
Maybe I'll feel motivated to play really well.
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not as sold on everyone being town as you are, but kelsier gives me good vibes | ||
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On August 23 2014 04:50 Hapahauli wrote: Buckle up boys. ##Vote Raynpelikoneet His play has been remarkably unmemorable and unfocused. After I read this game the first time through a few hours ago, I couldn't remember anything that he had posted... unheard of for a town Rayn. As for the unfocused, this is the best example: This is the scummiest thing I've seen in the thread. He just throws out "why is no one calling yamato mafia?" in the middle of a discussion, and drops some suspicion. What's notable about this is that
tl;dr Rayn's play lacks a focus that I'd expect from a town Rayn. And this yamato stuff is icing on the cake - he just sort of throws out suspicions hoping someone will bite, and when no one did, he didn't follow up on it at all. YES HAPA YES | ||
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Lol, good shit. I want to lynch one of rayn/wave/vayne | ||
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robik being robik turtlevine is apparently confirmed to gb, so he's town lolol ez game ez lyfe | ||
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let's go Hapa talk to me about wave | ||
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tell me the rayn read isn't good it's fucking godlike | ||
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and look at the way he talked about me he's not trying to lynch me, he's just trying to make people not townread me so fucking scummy | ||
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On August 23 2014 06:09 justanothertownie wrote: And what does he gain from that if he does not try to lynch you? he's setting up my potential mislynch because he thinks I'm not going to try plus, he preempts my return to the thread with this bullshit | ||
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On August 23 2014 06:12 justanothertownie wrote: Why would he think you are not going to try if he is scum and you are town? because I haven't been trying? or have you not noticed these newbies not respecting just how good my towngame can be | ||
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do you know how rayn operates with his scumreads as town? he makes fucking cases on them and argues about it for days is this how he is handling his read on me? no. it's horseshit. I don't like him coming after me, and I don't like how he's going about his read on wave or damdred either at the moment | ||
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On August 23 2014 06:17 justanothertownie wrote: But the scumrayn I know is not aimless at all. Look at foundation mafia. He was pushing mislynches like a fucking lunatic. he can't do what he did in foundation because there are much better players floating around in this thread | ||
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do you think I'm mafia? | ||
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Really? | ||
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I'm not that invested to waste hours f5ing just to read rayn spam the same shit 30 times | ||
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On August 23 2014 08:39 Hapahauli wrote: The sheer persistence of spam over the last few pages. It's quite impressive. him OMGUSing you is not out of the realm of scum rayn, Hapa, and neither is this tirade | ||
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On August 23 2014 08:40 Damdred wrote: Honestly though I'm probably being paranoid and dumb. But its just a weird coincidence that right when thread mentality is shifting against rayn hap shows up to blast him with a case (fitst post) I'm not sure what hapas activity level usuallt is but it is just weird. and then everyone sheeps it feels off to me this is a good observation Hapa's entrance is difficult to gauge objectively because of the timing objectively it's null. | ||
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I want to revisit my read on wave later when I have time to sit at my computer | ||
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the one person I feel like we're all ignoring is wave what do people make of him? | ||
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I'll take a look at his filter and give better impressions. | ||
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On August 23 2014 15:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: I do not get this post yamato. Just because what you say about Hapa is completely wrong. Could you elaborate more? there were emotionally genuine things in hapa's posts that I find genuine has nothing to do with content or reads it's weak but I don't want to lynch into you/hapa today at all really talk to me about wave | ||
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Maybe we do just lynch him. | ||
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au revoir | ||
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On August 24 2014 04:42 justanothertownie wrote: This post suggests that you are townreading both of them, yes? no, it just provides the basis on which I think they could both be town and have had this situation occur I still think we should lynch wave really but I actually am leaving now ##Vote: WaveofShadow | ||
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reading comprehension | ||
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fucking lynch me now | ||
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Damdred and geript are the only ones calling me town and all you jubjubs just think this is a dandy lynch. Lol. | ||
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If it's me or him I'll vote with damdred. ##Vote Xatalos | ||
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On August 24 2014 08:57 WaveofShadow wrote: And yet you still don't have much to say about me, including when you OMGUSed me earlier. I gave my read on you. You voting me on your return is horrible. As is Hapa push of me. Onegu and Rob just sitting on sidelines not even posting getting a free pass. | ||
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On August 24 2014 08:59 WaveofShadow wrote: That's such horseshit yamato. What demotivated you exactly? Reading through page after page of pointless arguing. Trying to talk about the game with people only to be told I'm doing nothing. No one is discussing anything, they are just accusing and yelling. Just like your posts lately. | ||
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On August 24 2014 09:30 WaveofShadow wrote: LOL And this is why I have no problem lynching you. It has less to do with your inactivity and more to do with the fact that you just don't give a fuck. Town care. You don't. If I didn't care I wouldn't be posting. | ||
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On August 24 2014 09:42 WaveofShadow wrote: Too little too late. And besides you're posting only in the weakest of all defenses to yourself. If you actually cared you'd help town find scum. I think that much should be obvious. Burn. Help town find scum? You are literally the only person responding to me. Lol. Joke of a game. | ||
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On August 24 2014 09:48 WaveofShadow wrote: What have you put out there for anyone to respond to? Where have you put in the effort? I think in literally EVERY single game I have played I have made a case that's taken me ~1h to write and had the whole thread ignore it. What's your excuse? I would also lynch Rob. Better than this shit fest. ##Vote IAmRobik | ||
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Fuck you, you can't even get past your petty bullshit to see a real read. | ||
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On August 24 2014 09:52 WaveofShadow wrote: No. None of this marv-bullshit-last-minute style lynches. If we lynch someone it will be because thought was put into it. Yes. Lots of thought was put into lynching me. | ||
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apparently he gives out a bunch of townreads, but then votes onegu without mentioning him much at all. weird. can't read much into anything, tbh, mostly just WIFOM he also says: On August 23 2014 23:20 IAmRobik wrote: We don't need to discuss turtlevine/GB. The SK is going to be forced to resolve it at some point. that makes me confident the claim is legitimate, especially given GB's push toward Robik that was entirely unnecessary as mafia | ||
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apparently he gives out a bunch of townreads, but then votes onegu without mentioning him much at all. weird. can't read much into anything, tbh, mostly just WIFOM he also says: On August 23 2014 23:20 IAmRobik wrote: We don't need to discuss turtlevine/GB. The SK is going to be forced to resolve it at some point. that makes me confident the claim is legitimate, especially given GB's push toward Robik that was entirely unnecessary as mafia wave's filter is interesting. his interaction with robik is minimal, despite the length of his filter, and most of it revolves around rob having never claimed town as mafia before. Aside from that, his only other mention of Rob is in a "lurker list" that seemed cursorily thrown together. Tie that in with his amazingly solid conviction that I was scum, and that the last second wagon was bad, and you have yourself a sketchy looking shadow | ||
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On August 24 2014 11:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: well yamato is scum. LOL LOL LOL rayn plz | ||
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On August 24 2014 11:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: also wave. period. you realize I just said this? rayn wtf srsly | ||
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On August 24 2014 11:40 raynpelikoneet wrote: let's kill xaalos. meant for scum qt? seems like a non sequitur | ||
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I already know you're mafia <3 | ||
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The shoe is on the other foot, I'd say. | ||
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his only vote is on damdred hard to judge him objectively because my biased impression is usually that he's mafia if he's posting reads with reasons. | ||
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however, it is possible he only used his "townread" as an excuse to push xat, but why would he pick and choose so decisively if he was mafia and we were both town? his filter makes me want to re-evaluate xat, it does remind me of why I felt off about him. Why was he being so petty about my posts closer to deadline? And as Kels said, his sheep of Hapa onto rayn could be a sign. will look. | ||
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On August 22 2014 19:26 Xatalos wrote: Sorry Damdred, you ended up in my list of suspects again. It's just the way how last time your posts were somehow memorable because they were so awkward, especially at the start, but here I pretty much forget what you just said after reading each of your posts. That's what I generally associate with scum. On August 22 2014 19:26 Xatalos wrote: ##Vote Damdred Seems like an odd way to go about lynching someone, but meh. Not much to go on yet really. On August 23 2014 02:56 Xatalos wrote: I guess I'll just ##Vote yamato77 until he does something genuinely towny suuuuuper not impressed. the bias is real, but this is a shitty place for a vote. On August 23 2014 05:08 Xatalos wrote: I feel the urge to /sheep Hapa because he understands my meta and brought a good point about rayn. But it's my policy not to lynch heavyweight players on D1 :/ Gah maybe this is too much to turn a blind eye on though. On August 23 2014 05:09 Xatalos wrote: Ok let's lynch rayn. WAGON OF JUSTICE!!! ##Unvote ##Vote raynpelikoneet + Show Spoiler [bad joke] + "I don't usually do this, but..." Oh, you sly thing you, we know you like it dirty. Wiggling his way onto a wagon? Or genuine indecision? Note previous posts about rayn is some more generally suggestive posting that he thinks rayn is scum but the vote doesn't come until later. On August 24 2014 04:25 Xatalos wrote: Maybe yamato deserves a lynch if he keeps popping in and out of the thread without offering much of anything. It's also not a loss even if he ends up town. I still feel like rayn is scum here and I haven't seen anything to really make me feel otherwise. Trying to find his transition from rayn -> back onto me, and I see this at the bottom of a post. "it's also not a loss even if he's town" sounds like a mafia rationalizing his mislynch push. On August 24 2014 04:32 Xatalos wrote: Because I wouldn't want him at LYLO either way if this continues. more of the same. On August 24 2014 06:30 Xatalos wrote: Ok now I want to lynch yamato. His deadline behavior is exactly what he did as scum in the PYP game - totally disinterested and giving up at some sense of pressure. ##Unvote ##Vote yamato77 Finds his poor excuse. On August 24 2014 07:25 Xatalos wrote: In conclusion: 1) Town yamato doesn't make posts where he "gives up", scum yamato does 2) Town yamato is confident and aggro on players who disagree with him, scum yamato is not Scum fits perfectly in this game for him. Rides it allllllllll the way. 10+ posts saying essentially the same thing. : / On August 24 2014 08:20 Xatalos wrote: Read Hapa's post on me at the last page and you will be enlightened. He gets it. He's really proud of Hapa's townread. Really guys. He posts this a lot too. As for right up to deadline... On August 24 2014 09:51 Xatalos wrote: There's too little time to do something like that. Besides Robik is pretty much a coinflip. Do you want to get rid of me or yamato? On August 24 2014 09:55 Xatalos wrote: Could be a last-minute tactic. Just lynch yamato. On August 24 2014 09:58 Xatalos wrote: Gah do I have to lynch a coinflip just to live On August 24 2014 09:58 Xatalos wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote IAmRobik On August 24 2014 09:59 Xatalos wrote: Better Robik than me Such reluctance, much waffle, wow. If it weren't for sheer activity, Xat would be really high on my suspect list. His only strong read was me, and he waffled about with that before voting me because of my post about giving up, which is quite pathetic. Could town Xatalos really have that much confidence in that terrible of a heuristic? | ||
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As for rayn, my impression is that he's a town who has fallen off the deep end. Robik spent a lot of time calling rayn town, something I don't think he would do to a mafia partner. Rayn's behavior is in line with how he was posting in endgame of Neat & Tidy. He's really mad that someone reads him incorrectly that he thinks shouldn't. | ||
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On August 25 2014 12:49 WaveofShadow wrote: yamato fucking don't go anywhere and talk to me about this here now, catching up | ||
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Also RE: Hapa Him being SK would make sense as who else would kill rayn? | ||
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if I'm mafia and Hapa is town I would leave rayn alive for years | ||
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Tomorrow will be a spotty day for me activity wise. I will have time before deadline to catch up hopefully. Later nerds. | ||
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He is exactly the type of player to play this way. | ||
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There's also a world where he's mafia JOAT, but I don't know how much I buy into that. Masons + JK + JOAT isn't OP for town, especially given SK + upgraded GF. Perhaps we have other blues claim if there are any? Otherwise I'm inclined to not lynch VA. | ||
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##Vote: Hapahauli | ||
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On August 25 2014 23:24 GlowingBear wrote: I gave analysis on night 1 kills and my conclusion was that Kelsen is the SK, but it is useless to discuss who is the SK now. Easier to find mafia with the godfather flipped. We are wasting our times trying to decide who is SK before deciding who is mafia au contraire, killing the SK now is an amazingly good play. It gives town double the effective time to solve the game. | ||
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Onegu is a much better lynch than him IMO. He is likely mafia given his inactivity and his poor reads. He also doesn't seem to be making a return, so at worst we lynch the modkill and stall for time, something that is relatively precious in a 2KP/night world. OR we could make DA BIG PLAYS and lynch Hapa. Like I said, this requires a pair, but it promises to be amazing. | ||
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On August 26 2014 02:13 turtlevine wrote: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Scum "Scum is a catch-all term for any member of an informed minority, such as Serial Killers and Mafia goons. During a day phase, everybody is seemingly trying to locate and eliminate these roles." Also, SK isn't an informed minority. He knows only his alignment & powers. He's more like a townie in that sense, but obviously he's playing to his own win condition which is incompatible with town's so he's anti-town. Only in that way is he similar to mafia, and thus, could be categorized with them. Mafiascum is not the place to learn about mafia. | ||
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On August 26 2014 03:45 Hapahauli wrote: Anyway, as for Vayne, there's a pretty easy way to tell if he's town or mafia. We have 2 masons and a Jailkeeper confirmed. Vayne is claiming JOAT. I think the likelyhood of there being another blue is pretty low. If another blue claims, Vayne is probably mafia. Discuss. I said this already. 0 points for Hapa | ||
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On August 26 2014 03:58 Hapahauli wrote: Why the hell would I address SK suspicions? It's paranoid nonsense, and I'm surprised that so many people are buying into it. For those who think I"m SK, answer me this: what is the difference between SK and Town play on Day 1? Because the answer is "nothing." There's literally every incentive for an SK to play completely normally and simply scumhunt. Perhaps you could pick up on someone being a bit too "survivalist", but does my play look like I"ve been concerned with my survival at all? I'll let the Rayn case speak for itself. I know I haven't played a game in a while, but it's like my town game has been deified to the point where I'm never going to live up to the unrealistic expectations that people set for me. And there being an SK in this game is apparently the perfect outlet for those expectations. Well, to be fair, a good portion of the best material is the fact that rayn was shot, which both happened during N1 and is SK-exclusive. And no, we just expect you to be more insightful than you are, which is not deification by any means. | ||
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On August 26 2014 03:56 Xatalos wrote: Well I don't really mind lynching VA either, but it could be better to lynch Onegu today. At least there's a decent chance that VA is actually JOAT based on those host "clues". Actually, the clues make his claim worse. Why would there be such obvious clues in the rules/late-posted role PM to verify his claim in a closed setup? | ||
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On August 26 2014 04:10 Hapahauli wrote: Like honestly, if I was SK, I would probably kill off the entire mafia team as fast as I could and let town WIFOM itself down to oblivion trying to find me with a perfect town alibi. Such WIFOM, many lies. Why wouldn't you just kill people dangerous to your survival like rayn? Honestly, who else would kill rayn? | ||
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On August 26 2014 04:12 Hapahauli wrote: So instead of getting rid of someone who was suspicious of me, I switched my votes 4 minutes before the deadline to lynch mafia. Like. Really? If I flip town and am calling you mafia with my last breath it looks bad. | ||
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On August 26 2014 04:16 Hapahauli wrote: He claimed cop. I'd assume a lot of people would justify killing him over that. I don't think anyone took that seriously unless they were paranoid of rayn checking them, and who fits that bill? | ||
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On August 26 2014 04:16 Hapahauli wrote: Doubt it. Do people tend to listen to you after you get lynched in your other games? Why would you switch if not for that reason? Surely your read on Robik wasn't strong, was it? Or were you just trying to blend in? | ||
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On August 26 2014 04:18 Hapahauli wrote: This is honestly the most retarded discussion I've had in this game. And I"ve argued with JAT on Day 1. Why are we running like idiots around paranoia of the SK when it's likely we wont have information to lynch SK until later? At a certain point, the SK's motivation changes from pro-town to pro-SK, and that's how you catch him. We need to find mafia in the mean-time, and this discussion is literally the exact opposite of finding mafia. Finding SK D2 is both possible and a good play. We know who he shot and if we kill him we halve anti - town KP. | ||
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On August 26 2014 04:19 Hapahauli wrote: I've played a lot of games with Rayn. Do you think I'd be paranoid of Rayn checking me? Or even believe that he was cop? You would be if you were SK. | ||
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On August 26 2014 04:20 Hapahauli wrote: Ok you've gone off the NK WIFOM deep-end. Yeah I'm done with this. You think mafia killed rayn? Funniest joke yet. | ||
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On August 26 2014 04:20 Hapahauli wrote: What do you mean? Read Xatalos as town, read you as town. Therefore, better chance of literally anyone else being mafia. You've seen me do many of these last-minute lynches before. Are you this dense? Yes, and generally you are the one leading them, but you weren't this time. | ||
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0% chance Hapa is suddenly this bad of a player just because of a break. Also 0% chance we lynch VA today. | ||
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That's why it says everyone else, Hapa | ||
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please balls people use the ones you have | ||
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HAPA I GIVE YOU 100% SEAL OF CERTAINTY HE IS NOT TOWN | ||
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His whole posting spree yesterday was a large attempt at getting discussion moved away from lynching him. He played the WIFOM game and attempted to downplay the suspicion on him as a waste of time. Yet his contributions to the scumhunting he so valiantly called for have been weak at best. He basically ignored everything that everyone has said about VA and his lynch in that time frame and just reiterated his "case". Never believe a strong town player when they tell you they are just playing badly. | ||
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Ugh. I am confident Damdred is town. I feel less confident about WoS/Kels/Xat/VA but I have reasons to think they are town. Onegu basically has to be mafia. And Hapa is certainly not town. That leaves me with 1 incorrect read. Who is it? | ||
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IT'S USELESS | ||
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talking about stupid scenarios is pointless until it happens fucking play the game | ||
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On August 27 2014 08:35 GlowingBear wrote: Yamato, look how Kelsen is reluctant regarding lynching hapa. He is worried A LOT on how people see him and works hard to discredit my play. When I say "give me another lynch" or "I want to kill hapa" he mostly dodges this discussion. He is not scum hunting, he is simply defending himself and using cracked math just to say LYNCH THE GUY WHO IS GOING TO DIE ANYWAYS LOL (onegu) You don't really think he is mafia? Really really really? I said I was wrong about someone. That someone might be kels But first we lynch Hapa and see the flips. | ||
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2 Mafia, three town. | ||
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On August 28 2014 01:53 WaveofShadow wrote: Read the thread again, good sir. I didn't push Hapa anywhere near as hard as you, but I brought it to the thread's attention. I didn't know if I wanted to lynch him as it was possible he could have been town. I pushed VA throughout the day. And don't give me that I have no experience with hapa; I've played plenty of games with him. And somehow you compare my experience with him to that of Damdred who just started here? Come on. Options open, dear. No reason to lose because I townread a sneaky mafia Wave for agreeing with me about Hapa. | ||
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Day 1 was not my best play. | ||
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On August 28 2014 02:06 WaveofShadow wrote: I still highly doubt yamato is scum and wouldn't lynch him ahead of KSC/Dam but I realize there's a higher chance than I thought. Yamato you can't tell me it's not possible for you to have bussed for no reason and then have your game revitalized as scum once everybody thinks you're town. You are completely capable of that kind of play. And your point is? | ||
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On August 28 2014 10:23 VayneAuthority wrote: alternatively I ate a roleblock but I hvae no way of confirming that so just stupid speculation. Game isnt won yet considering mafia could have a vig or something so dont just coast we have to get the right lynch here you could have eaten a roleblock but you claimed a check? ##Vote VayneAuthority | ||
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On August 28 2014 10:53 Xatalos wrote: Read the thread. VA unclaimed JOAT before deadline. unclaimed more like lied and then lied again to cover why he he didn't die with a fucking cop check | ||
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On August 28 2014 10:57 Xatalos wrote: Maybe he was just roleblocked / WIFOM left alive as a mislynch. no | ||
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Xata, you are the worst cop in history. | ||
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On August 28 2014 11:14 KelsierSC wrote: WoS can't afford to bus VA, neither can I you can because town will just lynch me and WoS. PoE no wait it got worse | ||
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And KSC is his buddy because: D2, he didn't want to lynch VA OR Hapa, which is exactly what mafia would be motivated to do. Today, he 180s on Xata even AFTER questioning his claim at night + comes out and 180s on me with literally the worst post I've ever read where he VOTES THE GUY I'M VOTING, YET CALLS ME MAFIA FOR BUSSING HIM And why would I bus in this way? Because apparently it gives me enough leeway to push 2 mislynches on WoS and himself. | ||
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but that post killed it sorry pal was a fun game, please play again. | ||
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not because I couldn't play well as mafia (I have survived to endgame in a stacked town) but because I'm far and away a better town player one of the best town players when I'm trying to win the game that comes in handy when I want to crush scumteams like I wanted to after we lynched Robik on d1 you just happened to be on the receiving end of this punishment blame wos/xatalos for making me really fucking mad at the end of d1 | ||
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we'll let the rest of town decide what they think of your brilliant argument | ||
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On August 28 2014 11:38 WaveofShadow wrote: I've seen you give up and be shit as town so many times yamato dont get all arrogant And many times before that, I've played lights out as town and taken many shots for it. Most of the time the game isn't as fun as this one was. I joined a good playerlist. | ||
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On August 28 2014 11:41 yamato77 wrote: And many times before that, I've played lights out as town and taken many shots for it. Most of the time the game isn't as fun as this one was. I joined a good playerlist. Notably, it wasn't nearly that fun until Robik got lynched. That is probably the best lynch of all time. | ||
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_baseball_(L) lights-out A pitcher who so dominates the hitters that the game is effectively over once he takes the mound — so they can turn out the lights and go home. The pitcher retires the batters in order without allowing a single run. "Putz pitched lights-out baseball once he took over the job for good from Guardado." | ||
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zzz | ||
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it's still over for you pal | ||
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lolol | ||
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