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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 24 2014 03:14 GMT
#1861
Have you finished your homework yet Wave?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 24 2014 03:18 GMT
#1862
Going to bed have a great night yo
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 24 2014 03:38 GMT
#1863
On August 24 2014 12:14 Hapahauli wrote:
Have you finished your homework yet Wave?

I'm procrastinating.
I'm not going anywhere obvs, ill get to it
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 24 2014 05:07 GMT
#1864
Waaaaaaaaave.

The shoe is on the other foot, I'd say.
Writer@WriterYamato
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 24 2014 07:25 GMT
#1865
On August 24 2014 10:25 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 10:24 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 24 2014 10:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
Yup no point right now we lynch into people not on robik imo


That pool includes you sadly. Your homework is also to go over the votecount and tell us who's mafia.

Yeah well aware, and I also look like shit specifically because I didn't want to switch but whatever.
I'm fucking pumped and confident

On August 24 2014 12:38 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 12:14 Hapahauli wrote:
Have you finished your homework yet Wave?

I'm procrastinating.
I'm not going anywhere obvs, ill get to it


a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 24 2014 07:46 GMT
#1866
Welp.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 24 2014 08:27 GMT
#1867
Onegu filter is a tunnel of rayn. Literally nothing convincingly genuine in the whole spiel. Also, his concern of the mason claim comes off as scummy to me. Mafia would want to know all the details as that is information they don't have.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 24 2014 08:40 GMT
#1868
vayne posted that he thought one of me/hapa/damdred was mafia and that xat/rayn were town

his only vote is on damdred

hard to judge him objectively because my biased impression is usually that he's mafia if he's posting reads with reasons.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 24 2014 08:51 GMT
#1869
damdred feels pretty agressive and confident, more so than his scum game where he was pretty quiet and had 1/3 of the pages in the whole game as he did this d1. Also, he defended me and pushed xat for it, which makes him townier from my perspective.

however, it is possible he only used his "townread" as an excuse to push xat, but why would he pick and choose so decisively if he was mafia and we were both town?

his filter makes me want to re-evaluate xat, it does remind me of why I felt off about him. Why was he being so petty about my posts closer to deadline? And as Kels said, his sheep of Hapa onto rayn could be a sign. will look.
Writer@WriterYamato
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 24 2014 08:52 GMT
#1870
On August 22 2014 06:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I promise to play my best game ever as either alignment here. Now.


before the game rayn declared a great promise
us with his play to gladly surprise
yet that promise was never to be fulfilled
but the thread would with rage be spammed
and everyone wary of him would be OMGUSed
with ridiculous reasons be pushed
and town-leaning evidence casually ignored

if this rayn's townplay is
he no longer in the great players belongs
even doing things like baiting blue counterclaims
I sincerely hope his alignment doesn't belong to town's
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 24 2014 09:05 GMT
#1871
Wait could rayn actually be Cop?? No way... If he is then I regret joining the game with him.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 24 2014 09:06 GMT
#1872
Doesn't feel like it though from his posts.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 24 2014 09:11 GMT
#1873
On August 24 2014 11:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
let's kill xaalos.


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"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 24 2014 09:11 GMT
#1874
Since Xat's filter is long and he's an active player, we'll distill the analysis down to voting patterns.

On August 22 2014 19:26 Xatalos wrote:
Sorry Damdred, you ended up in my list of suspects again. It's just the way how last time your posts were somehow memorable because they were so awkward, especially at the start, but here I pretty much forget what you just said after reading each of your posts. That's what I generally associate with scum.



On August 22 2014 19:26 Xatalos wrote:
##Vote Damdred


Seems like an odd way to go about lynching someone, but meh.

On August 22 2014 23:34 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 23:29 Damdred wrote:
On August 22 2014 22:00 Xatalos wrote:
On August 22 2014 21:38 Damdred wrote:
Ok caught up and had one cup of coffee so far.

I don't really care for Xatalos reads so much, i'm just going to ignore the part of me since he always does that to me. I don't get his scummy feels vs non scummy feels. Kel is the lowest on the town scale for him but he has given some of the better material in this thread so far and seems the most likely to be towny out of the early posters and he continues to give pretty good reasoning behind his reads he is part of town I really like him right now.

Xata, have you changed your mind about ray and what you originally posted him as? Also if you give Ray a -1 for being asleep when hes usually not active on the boards shouldn't the other people who have 0s have -1 to?

I think I disagree with the GB and Wave rankings the most. GB is townish to me right now besides the awkward re-entrance to the thread and asking for summary which is just weird and seems strange.

You say wave responds to kel in a casual/towny type way? I don't see that at all, it looked like to me he waited on someone else to call him stupid and then jumped on him, and then asked the same question to multiple people and didn't draw conclusions up to that point about them instead he just left that doesn't seem very towny to me. Confused why you gave him such a strong town read


Yeah I think Kel is leaning town. Maybe he should be like +2 or +3. For example he's just making enemies and pushing his own thoughts, not something many scum would feel comfortable doing.

I'm just kind of null on rayn right now. I've never been good at reading him but I think my heuristic is correct: super helpful rayn = town, unhelpful rayn = null. So null. I'll believe that he was really sleeping so I don't really care about that point of suspicion anymore.

How do you disagree about GB if we both townread him?

I'll look at the WOS scumgame soon so I'll re-evaluate my read then.


If this is the post you responded to me on ok,

I don't disagree with a town read on GB for his earlier posting and responses in the thread, infact I agree with you that they felt a lot more natural than when we last saw GB as mafia however (I should of specified earlier) I only disagree with such a strong town read. There have been several instances where GB has been as awkward as the mafia game.

re-entry post and where he asked me whether WoS was mafia or not and then promptly went to bed and has had no follow up on that post earlier its strange that it seemed like an important exchange in finding each others alignments but it seems to be quickly forgotten. Also instead of waiting for me to respond to his earlier question he immediately qued on an odd post I made and then retreated to bed shortly before I responded and still hasn't drawn conclusions from the posts. So yes I disagree with your stronger town read currently, I have a falling town lean after re-reading GBs filter.

And I know you said earlier WoS activity level cannot be put in comparison to scummy level so glad you checked on that though.


I like this post.

##Unvote


Not much to go on yet really.

On August 23 2014 02:56 Xatalos wrote:
I guess I'll just

##Vote yamato77

until he does something genuinely towny


suuuuuper not impressed. the bias is real, but this is a shitty place for a vote.

On August 23 2014 05:08 Xatalos wrote:
I feel the urge to /sheep Hapa because he understands my meta and brought a good point about rayn. But it's my policy not to lynch heavyweight players on D1 :/ Gah maybe this is too much to turn a blind eye on though.


On August 23 2014 05:09 Xatalos wrote:
Ok let's lynch rayn. WAGON OF JUSTICE!!!

##Unvote
##Vote raynpelikoneet


+ Show Spoiler [bad joke] +
"I don't usually do this, but..." Oh, you sly thing you, we know you like it dirty.


Wiggling his way onto a wagon? Or genuine indecision? Note previous posts about rayn is some more generally suggestive posting that he thinks rayn is scum but the vote doesn't come until later.

On August 24 2014 04:25 Xatalos wrote:
Maybe yamato deserves a lynch if he keeps popping in and out of the thread without offering much of anything. It's also not a loss even if he ends up town. I still feel like rayn is scum here and I haven't seen anything to really make me feel otherwise.


Trying to find his transition from rayn -> back onto me, and I see this at the bottom of a post. "it's also not a loss even if he's town" sounds like a mafia rationalizing his mislynch push.

On August 24 2014 04:32 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 04:29 Damdred wrote:
On August 24 2014 04:25 Xatalos wrote:
On August 24 2014 03:44 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 24 2014 03:32 Xatalos wrote:
turtlevine is clearly an experienced player + town so him pushing Hapa makes me think about the meaning of life.

Although his read of me is bad, I can't just ignore him scumreading Hapa - I'm no expert on Hapa and certainly there's room for error in my judgment. I hope Hapa returns soon and really proves that he's town. Him dropping the rayn read based on spam and leaving didn't leave the best last impression.

Ok, but I don't see you doing anything about this.
Who is turtle, Xat, and what do you know of whom you think it is?

Also why are people not voting for yamato exactly? I see lots of waffling over Rayn/hapa, fine, but correct me if I'm wrong but no one currently has a townread on yamato, do they?

Also fuck lynching damdred today I don't have time for a filterdive until later tonight and I'm not confident enough.


He's really obviously a smurf with a lot of experience (Prome? not sure but someone good anyway) + he's basically confirmed as town. These points combined lead me to at least show some level of respect for his play, so perhaps I should revisit my townread of Hapa. Well, Hapa just returned so I hope to see more from him from now on.

Maybe yamato deserves a lynch if he keeps popping in and out of the thread without offering much of anything. It's also not a loss even if he ends up town. I still feel like rayn is scum here and I haven't seen anything to really make me feel otherwise.


The bolded bothers me, obviously he is mafia if he doesn't contribute but what i've seen isn't as bad as some people think it is. I'm going to wait on his read to see if he can keep a promise meh. But why don't you care exactly? I care about mislynches i'd rather just lynch mafia every day instead of thinking well if hes town no great loss


Because I wouldn't want him at LYLO either way if this continues.


more of the same.

On August 24 2014 06:30 Xatalos wrote:
Ok now I want to lynch yamato. His deadline behavior is exactly what he did as scum in the PYP game - totally disinterested and giving up at some sense of pressure.

##Unvote
##Vote yamato77


Finds his poor excuse.

On August 24 2014 07:25 Xatalos wrote:
In conclusion:

1) Town yamato doesn't make posts where he "gives up", scum yamato does
2) Town yamato is confident and aggro on players who disagree with him, scum yamato is not

Scum fits perfectly in this game for him.


Rides it allllllllll the way. 10+ posts saying essentially the same thing. : /

On August 24 2014 08:20 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 08:18 KelsierSC wrote:
so Xat all you want me to do is lynch yam

But I read you as scum so badly and you are pushing on Yam. Even though he was town for you. And you shared his read on rayn who is still scum for you.

Like I would happily lynch over yamato and feel really good about it.

So when someone who I see is scum is puhsing hard for a lynch like it makes me uneasy, does that make sense.

You need to convince me you are town and you havent fucking done it you could be bussing, yam could be town ( I dont think he is_ but with how eager you are now to push this lynch through and live another day it just screams scum.

I cant think of one good reason to keep you for d2


Read Hapa's post on me at the last page and you will be enlightened. He gets it.


He's really proud of Hapa's townread. Really guys. He posts this a lot too.

As for right up to deadline...

On August 24 2014 09:51 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 09:50 GlowingBear wrote:
They will both be a mislynch. Mafia is comfort with both wagons. We should lynch Robik. I still have 10 minutes but if people choose to lynch Robik I'll do so


There's too little time to do something like that. Besides Robik is pretty much a coinflip. Do you want to get rid of me or yamato?


On August 24 2014 09:55 Xatalos wrote:
Could be a last-minute tactic. Just lynch yamato.


On August 24 2014 09:58 Xatalos wrote:
Gah do I have to lynch a coinflip just to live


On August 24 2014 09:58 Xatalos wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote IAmRobik


On August 24 2014 09:59 Xatalos wrote:
Better Robik than me


Such reluctance, much waffle, wow.

If it weren't for sheer activity, Xat would be really high on my suspect list. His only strong read was me, and he waffled about with that before voting me because of my post about giving up, which is quite pathetic. Could town Xatalos really have that much confidence in that terrible of a heuristic?
Writer@WriterYamato
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 24 2014 09:13 GMT
#1875
Short answer: yes.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 24 2014 09:15 GMT
#1876
Most of Xat's posts about Robik mention him as a townread, he even parrots the "he claimed town" thing. Very little interaction between the two, but his townread magically gets stronger from list post to list post while he repeats the same reasoning. Meh. Food for thought.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 24 2014 09:16 GMT
#1877
Out for now. I think I have a good bearing on this game.
Writer@WriterYamato
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 24 2014 09:41 GMT
#1878
I can't understand why yamato would only start to play starting from N1.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 24 2014 09:44 GMT
#1879
Anyways tomorrow we should probably lynch into rayn/VA/Damdred.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 24 2014 09:47 GMT
#1880
Hm what do you think of rayn these days yamato?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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