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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 23 2014 21:12 GMT
#1421
On August 24 2014 06:05 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 05:54 VayneAuthority wrote:
at any rate I need an updated read from you on JAT, for science.

Now that you got your answer - what is your scientific insight?


lines up pretty well with my thoughts so he either got lucky or is reading the thread as opposed to full on filters, id go with the latter. Could have picked anyone really just a test.
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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
August 23 2014 21:12 GMT
#1422
On August 24 2014 06:11 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 06:09 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 24 2014 06:08 Hapahauli wrote:
I confused "championship" game with the ones run on 2p2. That's pretty much it. That wasn't clear from my posts?

Yes, it was. But it shows that you have no idea about that game.


No, it means that I didn't immediately associate "championship" with the TL game.

Again, where is this going?

You are basing your read on me on a game you didn't even read anything of. You made a conclusion about my play off of a random number of pages I had in that game.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 23 2014 21:13 GMT
#1423
On August 24 2014 06:11 justanothertownie wrote:
See Hapa, what you did so far is a garbage case on rayn that you retracted and now you are going on the 2 people who aren't doing anything. They may very well be scum but you are going after the easy targets.


Cool. Now what do you think of my cases then? Broad generalizations about my play aside of course.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 23 2014 21:14 GMT
#1424
On August 24 2014 06:08 Damdred wrote:
Vayne, You disapeared on me earlier after I made my post. Are you still scum reading me for the reasons you posted? Feels a bit weird that you made the post a follow up and then left


didnt really feel a reason to reply, I agree that the GB stuff was insight, disagree on wave, rest is fluff imo. You would need to convince me why I should switch over to yamato cause thats probably the only other option im looking at atm.
I come in for the scraps
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
August 23 2014 21:17 GMT
#1425
On August 24 2014 06:13 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 06:11 justanothertownie wrote:
See Hapa, what you did so far is a garbage case on rayn that you retracted and now you are going on the 2 people who aren't doing anything. They may very well be scum but you are going after the easy targets.


Cool. Now what do you think of my cases then? Broad generalizations about my play aside of course.

You barely have a case on yamato. You are just stating the obvious and anyone could do that.
Your case on Vayne is not bad maybe. The good point here is that Vayne actually trys to look like he is interested which is not his townmeta as far as I see it.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 23 2014 21:18 GMT
#1426
On August 24 2014 06:17 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 06:13 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 24 2014 06:11 justanothertownie wrote:
See Hapa, what you did so far is a garbage case on rayn that you retracted and now you are going on the 2 people who aren't doing anything. They may very well be scum but you are going after the easy targets.


Cool. Now what do you think of my cases then? Broad generalizations about my play aside of course.

You barely have a case on yamato. You are just stating the obvious and anyone could do that.
Your case on Vayne is not bad maybe. The good point here is that Vayne actually trys to look like he is interested which is not his townmeta as far as I see it.


you know as well as anyone that I could just fuck off and post nothing day 1 and nobody would think anything of it. Im not dumb enough to not know my own meta -_- try to help and i get called scum for it leL
I come in for the scraps
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 21:19 GMT
#1427
On August 24 2014 04:35 yamato77 wrote:
I don't really have the time to fight my lynch in the next couple hours

au revoir


On March 07 2014 04:13 yamato77 wrote:
I don't have the motivation to not get lynched this game.

Whatever.


Sounds like scum yamato :/
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 23 2014 21:19 GMT
#1428
On August 23 2014 07:27 VayneAuthority wrote:
##vote: Damdred

he drops off anytime anything game defining happens, knocking it in


On August 24 2014 02:52 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 02:48 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 24 2014 02:46 VayneAuthority wrote:
On August 24 2014 02:44 justanothertownie wrote:
Since when do you care about the lynch day1, vayne?


Do I have to troll every game? not really. I always try when im needed and this game is a mess.

Ok, who do we lynch?


well right now my vote is on damdred I think he is a solid lynch given his activity level and what he has said no far (nothing original) I'm willing to switch to yamato or hapa though.


These are your two points on me. You agreed with me on GB, you said you disagreed with the wave stuff (did you disagree with my conclussion or that it was original content?) and wrote the rest of my things off as fluff which I disagree with.

Both of your points even if you still think i'm fluffy are disproved. Am I really worth your vote right now? Yamato is the easy vote so no I won't push him right now i'm not 100% that this is his scum game even if its hard not to vote for him right now, some of his stuff shows actual thoughts behind it even if he hasn't posted a case on wave like he promised yet...

Either way I disagree where your vote is and your reasons for voting
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 23 2014 21:19 GMT
#1429
On August 24 2014 06:12 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 06:11 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 24 2014 06:09 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 24 2014 06:08 Hapahauli wrote:
I confused "championship" game with the ones run on 2p2. That's pretty much it. That wasn't clear from my posts?

Yes, it was. But it shows that you have no idea about that game.


No, it means that I didn't immediately associate "championship" with the TL game.

Again, where is this going?

You are basing your read on me on a game you didn't even read anything of. You made a conclusion about my play off of a random number of pages I had in that game.


No. Let me break it down for you:

1) "Championship" game commonly refers to the series run on 2p2. I had read all those games months ago.
2) I had read iamperfection's game sometime while it was going on.
3) When you mentioned "championship game", I immediately thought of the 2p2 series as opposed to iamperfection's game.
4) Hence it is possible for me to associate "championship" with another game series, while having read the game you played in.

Though again, why this line of questioning as opposed to talking about my cases, reads, etc? It's just stupid and pedantic. Even if you had an "AH HA, GOTCHA, CONTRADICTED YOURSELF" moment, so what? You're going to get contradictions left and right if you keep asking loaded questions and keep shoe-horning your assumptions into your own narrative.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 21:20 GMT
#1430
On August 24 2014 04:36 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 04:32 Xatalos wrote:
On August 24 2014 04:29 Damdred wrote:
On August 24 2014 04:25 Xatalos wrote:
On August 24 2014 03:44 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 24 2014 03:32 Xatalos wrote:
turtlevine is clearly an experienced player + town so him pushing Hapa makes me think about the meaning of life.

Although his read of me is bad, I can't just ignore him scumreading Hapa - I'm no expert on Hapa and certainly there's room for error in my judgment. I hope Hapa returns soon and really proves that he's town. Him dropping the rayn read based on spam and leaving didn't leave the best last impression.

Ok, but I don't see you doing anything about this.
Who is turtle, Xat, and what do you know of whom you think it is?

Also why are people not voting for yamato exactly? I see lots of waffling over Rayn/hapa, fine, but correct me if I'm wrong but no one currently has a townread on yamato, do they?

Also fuck lynching damdred today I don't have time for a filterdive until later tonight and I'm not confident enough.


He's really obviously a smurf with a lot of experience (Prome? not sure but someone good anyway) + he's basically confirmed as town. These points combined lead me to at least show some level of respect for his play, so perhaps I should revisit my townread of Hapa. Well, Hapa just returned so I hope to see more from him from now on.

Maybe yamato deserves a lynch if he keeps popping in and out of the thread without offering much of anything. It's also not a loss even if he ends up town. I still feel like rayn is scum here and I haven't seen anything to really make me feel otherwise.


The bolded bothers me, obviously he is mafia if he doesn't contribute but what i've seen isn't as bad as some people think it is. I'm going to wait on his read to see if he can keep a promise meh. But why don't you care exactly? I care about mislynches i'd rather just lynch mafia every day instead of thinking well if hes town no great loss


Because I wouldn't want him at LYLO either way if this continues.


But its no where close to LYLO so why would you be ok with lynching town at this point?


I don't necessarily think yamato is town anymore. Especially after he just gave up like earlier as scum.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 23 2014 21:20 GMT
#1431
On August 24 2014 06:19 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 07:27 VayneAuthority wrote:
##vote: Damdred

he drops off anytime anything game defining happens, knocking it in


Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 02:52 VayneAuthority wrote:
On August 24 2014 02:48 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 24 2014 02:46 VayneAuthority wrote:
On August 24 2014 02:44 justanothertownie wrote:
Since when do you care about the lynch day1, vayne?


Do I have to troll every game? not really. I always try when im needed and this game is a mess.

Ok, who do we lynch?


well right now my vote is on damdred I think he is a solid lynch given his activity level and what he has said no far (nothing original) I'm willing to switch to yamato or hapa though.


These are your two points on me. You agreed with me on GB, you said you disagreed with the wave stuff (did you disagree with my conclussion or that it was original content?) and wrote the rest of my things off as fluff which I disagree with.

Both of your points even if you still think i'm fluffy are disproved. Am I really worth your vote right now? Yamato is the easy vote so no I won't push him right now i'm not 100% that this is his scum game even if its hard not to vote for him right now, some of his stuff shows actual thoughts behind it even if he hasn't posted a case on wave like he promised yet...

Either way I disagree where your vote is and your reasons for voting


so where do you propose we go from here then? I'm not really sure what you are trying to accomplish day 1 thats a good place to start.
I come in for the scraps
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 21:22 GMT
#1432
On August 24 2014 04:39 KelsierSC wrote:
Xat how are you still sure rayn is scum if you are now unsure that Hap is town.

you are still dodging that


What? I haven't removed my townread of Hapa. I just said that I'll have to revisit him if turtlevine thinks he's scum. Besides it's too early to pre-flip speculate.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 23 2014 21:23 GMT
#1433
On August 24 2014 06:20 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 06:19 Damdred wrote:
On August 23 2014 07:27 VayneAuthority wrote:
##vote: Damdred

he drops off anytime anything game defining happens, knocking it in


On August 24 2014 02:52 VayneAuthority wrote:
On August 24 2014 02:48 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 24 2014 02:46 VayneAuthority wrote:
On August 24 2014 02:44 justanothertownie wrote:
Since when do you care about the lynch day1, vayne?


Do I have to troll every game? not really. I always try when im needed and this game is a mess.

Ok, who do we lynch?


well right now my vote is on damdred I think he is a solid lynch given his activity level and what he has said no far (nothing original) I'm willing to switch to yamato or hapa though.


These are your two points on me. You agreed with me on GB, you said you disagreed with the wave stuff (did you disagree with my conclussion or that it was original content?) and wrote the rest of my things off as fluff which I disagree with.

Both of your points even if you still think i'm fluffy are disproved. Am I really worth your vote right now? Yamato is the easy vote so no I won't push him right now i'm not 100% that this is his scum game even if its hard not to vote for him right now, some of his stuff shows actual thoughts behind it even if he hasn't posted a case on wave like he promised yet...

Either way I disagree where your vote is and your reasons for voting


so where do you propose we go from here then? I'm not really sure what you are trying to accomplish day 1 thats a good place to start.


Obviously the only place to go is scum hunt, i've already put forth that I think Xatalos is pretty scummy. And I don't like Onegu case on Rayn and his promise to read the thread and contribute has him not really doing anything at all.

And honestly i'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish day one vayne
turtlevine
Profile Joined August 2014
74 Posts
August 23 2014 21:24 GMT
#1434
there's once was a player named jat
who generally acted like a total asshat
when playing this game
he makes the experience lame
I'm tempted to vote him to stop that
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 23 2014 21:24 GMT
#1435
On August 24 2014 06:17 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 06:13 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 24 2014 06:11 justanothertownie wrote:
See Hapa, what you did so far is a garbage case on rayn that you retracted and now you are going on the 2 people who aren't doing anything. They may very well be scum but you are going after the easy targets.


Cool. Now what do you think of my cases then? Broad generalizations about my play aside of course.

You barely have a case on yamato. You are just stating the obvious and anyone could do that.
Your case on Vayne is not bad maybe. The good point here is that Vayne actually trys to look like he is interested which is not his townmeta as far as I see it.


Barely have a case on Yamato? I thought my point on his "confidence" post was rather good, and certainly not something that was "obvious."

Also, I have some fairly developed town-reads in my filter that you all together ignored.

You seem to be more interested in lining up my play with your narrative than looking at things the way they are.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 23 2014 21:28 GMT
#1436
On August 24 2014 06:23 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 06:20 VayneAuthority wrote:
On August 24 2014 06:19 Damdred wrote:
On August 23 2014 07:27 VayneAuthority wrote:
##vote: Damdred

he drops off anytime anything game defining happens, knocking it in


On August 24 2014 02:52 VayneAuthority wrote:
On August 24 2014 02:48 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 24 2014 02:46 VayneAuthority wrote:
On August 24 2014 02:44 justanothertownie wrote:
Since when do you care about the lynch day1, vayne?


Do I have to troll every game? not really. I always try when im needed and this game is a mess.

Ok, who do we lynch?


well right now my vote is on damdred I think he is a solid lynch given his activity level and what he has said no far (nothing original) I'm willing to switch to yamato or hapa though.


These are your two points on me. You agreed with me on GB, you said you disagreed with the wave stuff (did you disagree with my conclussion or that it was original content?) and wrote the rest of my things off as fluff which I disagree with.

Both of your points even if you still think i'm fluffy are disproved. Am I really worth your vote right now? Yamato is the easy vote so no I won't push him right now i'm not 100% that this is his scum game even if its hard not to vote for him right now, some of his stuff shows actual thoughts behind it even if he hasn't posted a case on wave like he promised yet...

Either way I disagree where your vote is and your reasons for voting


so where do you propose we go from here then? I'm not really sure what you are trying to accomplish day 1 thats a good place to start.


Obviously the only place to go is scum hunt, i've already put forth that I think Xatalos is pretty scummy. And I don't like Onegu case on Rayn and his promise to read the thread and contribute has him not really doing anything at all.

And honestly i'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish day one vayne


Ideally day one my goal is to simply survive and start lining up conversations and how they hold up with actions. I dont necessarily always need/want to kill scum day 1 as it isnt a pressing matter yet. Its better to gather a ton of info here.

As an aside why does easy vote = not scum to you?
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 23 2014 21:28 GMT
#1437
I have to go for now ill be back later if you respond.
I come in for the scraps
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 21:30 GMT
#1438
Ok now I want to lynch yamato. His deadline behavior is exactly what he did as scum in the PYP game - totally disinterested and giving up at some sense of pressure.

##Unvote
##Vote yamato77
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 21:31 GMT
#1439
It's practically exactly the same. Whereas as town he was very interested close to the lynch on Vendetta Strada.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 23 2014 21:32 GMT
#1440
On August 24 2014 06:24 turtlevine wrote:
there's once was a player named jat
who generally acted like a total asshat
when playing this game
he makes the experience lame
I'm tempted to vote him to stop that


Thanks for asking him to "stop that"
But it matters not if he is an asshat
You seem to know him
And given his filter a skim
So what is the alignment of Jat?
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