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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 23 2014 21:34 GMT
#1441
And with that artful contribution, I bid you all a fond farewell for the next hour. I must bathe in the sunlight.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 21:34 GMT
#1442
I really can't see town yamato posting what he did there.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
turtlevine
Profile Joined August 2014
74 Posts
August 23 2014 21:38 GMT
#1443
On August 24 2014 06:34 Xatalos wrote:
I really can't see town yamato posting what he did there.


where
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 23 2014 21:40 GMT
#1444
On August 24 2014 06:28 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 06:23 Damdred wrote:
On August 24 2014 06:20 VayneAuthority wrote:
On August 24 2014 06:19 Damdred wrote:
On August 23 2014 07:27 VayneAuthority wrote:
##vote: Damdred

he drops off anytime anything game defining happens, knocking it in


On August 24 2014 02:52 VayneAuthority wrote:
On August 24 2014 02:48 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 24 2014 02:46 VayneAuthority wrote:
On August 24 2014 02:44 justanothertownie wrote:
Since when do you care about the lynch day1, vayne?


Do I have to troll every game? not really. I always try when im needed and this game is a mess.

Ok, who do we lynch?


well right now my vote is on damdred I think he is a solid lynch given his activity level and what he has said no far (nothing original) I'm willing to switch to yamato or hapa though.


These are your two points on me. You agreed with me on GB, you said you disagreed with the wave stuff (did you disagree with my conclussion or that it was original content?) and wrote the rest of my things off as fluff which I disagree with.

Both of your points even if you still think i'm fluffy are disproved. Am I really worth your vote right now? Yamato is the easy vote so no I won't push him right now i'm not 100% that this is his scum game even if its hard not to vote for him right now, some of his stuff shows actual thoughts behind it even if he hasn't posted a case on wave like he promised yet...

Either way I disagree where your vote is and your reasons for voting


so where do you propose we go from here then? I'm not really sure what you are trying to accomplish day 1 thats a good place to start.


Obviously the only place to go is scum hunt, i've already put forth that I think Xatalos is pretty scummy. And I don't like Onegu case on Rayn and his promise to read the thread and contribute has him not really doing anything at all.

And honestly i'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish day one vayne


Ideally day one my goal is to simply survive and start lining up conversations and how they hold up with actions. I dont necessarily always need/want to kill scum day 1 as it isnt a pressing matter yet. Its better to gather a ton of info here.

As an aside why does easy vote = not scum to you?


Yea we play day one differently I try to have converstaions and get information but I look for scummy stuff and try to comment on it, I guess I don't normally put survival as the highest asset going into day one usually.

Some of Yamatos posts seem to have actual thoughts behind them and trying to do something that just doesn't seem like what i've seen in some of his scum games. I mean yes an easy vote could get scum just as easily as it could miss just because they don't fight the lynch doesn't automatically make them scum.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
August 23 2014 21:41 GMT
#1445
On August 24 2014 06:19 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 06:12 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 24 2014 06:11 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 24 2014 06:09 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 24 2014 06:08 Hapahauli wrote:
I confused "championship" game with the ones run on 2p2. That's pretty much it. That wasn't clear from my posts?

Yes, it was. But it shows that you have no idea about that game.


No, it means that I didn't immediately associate "championship" with the TL game.

Again, where is this going?

You are basing your read on me on a game you didn't even read anything of. You made a conclusion about my play off of a random number of pages I had in that game.


No. Let me break it down for you:

1) "Championship" game commonly refers to the series run on 2p2. I had read all those games months ago.
2) I had read iamperfection's game sometime while it was going on.
3) When you mentioned "championship game", I immediately thought of the 2p2 series as opposed to iamperfection's game.
4) Hence it is possible for me to associate "championship" with another game series, while having read the game you played in.

Though again, why this line of questioning as opposed to talking about my cases, reads, etc? It's just stupid and pedantic. Even if you had an "AH HA, GOTCHA, CONTRADICTED YOURSELF" moment, so what? You're going to get contradictions left and right if you keep asking loaded questions and keep shoe-horning your assumptions into your own narrative.

Are you misunderstanding this on purpose? I DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR MISTAKE REGARDING WHICH GAME TO LOOK AT OR WHICH SITE. I never did.
I CARE ABOUT YOU BASING YOUR READ ON ME ON A GAME YOU DID NOT READ.
Is this really that hard to understand?
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 21:43 GMT
#1446
On August 24 2014 06:19 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 04:35 yamato77 wrote:
I don't really have the time to fight my lynch in the next couple hours

au revoir


Show nested quote +
On March 07 2014 04:13 yamato77 wrote:
I don't have the motivation to not get lynched this game.

Whatever.


Sounds like scum yamato :/


Compare these reactions to pressure close to deadline on D1... One is scum, one is this game.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
August 23 2014 21:48 GMT
#1447
On August 24 2014 06:24 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 06:17 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 24 2014 06:13 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 24 2014 06:11 justanothertownie wrote:
See Hapa, what you did so far is a garbage case on rayn that you retracted and now you are going on the 2 people who aren't doing anything. They may very well be scum but you are going after the easy targets.


Cool. Now what do you think of my cases then? Broad generalizations about my play aside of course.

You barely have a case on yamato. You are just stating the obvious and anyone could do that.
Your case on Vayne is not bad maybe. The good point here is that Vayne actually trys to look like he is interested which is not his townmeta as far as I see it.


Barely have a case on Yamato? I thought my point on his "confidence" post was rather good, and certainly not something that was "obvious."

Also, I have some fairly developed town-reads in my filter that you all together ignored.

You seem to be more interested in lining up my play with your narrative than looking at things the way they are.

No, I am interested in your alignment and scumreads generally are more telling than townreads.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
August 23 2014 21:48 GMT
#1448
On August 24 2014 06:43 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 06:19 Xatalos wrote:
On August 24 2014 04:35 yamato77 wrote:
I don't really have the time to fight my lynch in the next couple hours

au revoir


On March 07 2014 04:13 yamato77 wrote:
I don't have the motivation to not get lynched this game.

Whatever.


Sounds like scum yamato :/


Compare these reactions to pressure close to deadline on D1... One is scum, one is this game.

Yes, fairly tempted to lynch yamato.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 21:50 GMT
#1449
On August 24 2014 06:48 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 06:43 Xatalos wrote:
On August 24 2014 06:19 Xatalos wrote:
On August 24 2014 04:35 yamato77 wrote:
I don't really have the time to fight my lynch in the next couple hours

au revoir


On March 07 2014 04:13 yamato77 wrote:
I don't have the motivation to not get lynched this game.

Whatever.


Sounds like scum yamato :/


Compare these reactions to pressure close to deadline on D1... One is scum, one is this game.

Yes, fairly tempted to lynch yamato.


Gogo. I'm pretty sure he's scum after that. As town he ALWAYS fights to the end at deadline if pressured. As scum he just can't bother.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 21:51 GMT
#1450
Well, from my experience at least.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
turtlevine
Profile Joined August 2014
74 Posts
August 23 2014 21:52 GMT
#1451
On August 24 2014 06:32 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 06:24 turtlevine wrote:
there's once was a player named jat
who generally acted like a total asshat
when playing this game
he makes the experience lame
I'm tempted to vote him to stop that


Thanks for asking him to "stop that"
But it matters not if he is an asshat
You seem to know him
And given his filter a skim
So what is the alignment of Jat?


Jat's conversations and great and many
especially with the dying hapahauli
if he were cred-seeking scum
he wouldn't be such a chum
to someone we'd so soon bury

It's possible about him I'm wrong
and he's surely and enormous dong
but today we should focus
on hapa and xatalos
on whom the cases are much more strong
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 21:53 GMT
#1452
On August 24 2014 06:52 turtlevine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 06:32 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 24 2014 06:24 turtlevine wrote:
there's once was a player named jat
who generally acted like a total asshat
when playing this game
he makes the experience lame
I'm tempted to vote him to stop that


Thanks for asking him to "stop that"
But it matters not if he is an asshat
You seem to know him
And given his filter a skim
So what is the alignment of Jat?


Jat's conversations and great and many
especially with the dying hapahauli
if he were cred-seeking scum
he wouldn't be such a chum
to someone we'd so soon bury

It's possible about him I'm wrong
and he's surely and enormous dong
but today we should focus
on hapa and xatalos
on whom the cases are much more strong


What about yamato? He just practically claimed scum.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
turtlevine
Profile Joined August 2014
74 Posts
August 23 2014 21:57 GMT
#1453
On August 24 2014 06:53 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 06:52 turtlevine wrote:
On August 24 2014 06:32 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 24 2014 06:24 turtlevine wrote:
there's once was a player named jat
who generally acted like a total asshat
when playing this game
he makes the experience lame
I'm tempted to vote him to stop that


Thanks for asking him to "stop that"
But it matters not if he is an asshat
You seem to know him
And given his filter a skim
So what is the alignment of Jat?


Jat's conversations and great and many
especially with the dying hapahauli
if he were cred-seeking scum
he wouldn't be such a chum
to someone we'd so soon bury

It's possible about him I'm wrong
and he's surely and enormous dong
but today we should focus
on hapa and xatalos
on whom the cases are much more strong


What about yamato? He just practically claimed scum.


where
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 22:00 GMT
#1454
On August 24 2014 06:57 turtlevine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 06:53 Xatalos wrote:
On August 24 2014 06:52 turtlevine wrote:
On August 24 2014 06:32 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 24 2014 06:24 turtlevine wrote:
there's once was a player named jat
who generally acted like a total asshat
when playing this game
he makes the experience lame
I'm tempted to vote him to stop that


Thanks for asking him to "stop that"
But it matters not if he is an asshat
You seem to know him
And given his filter a skim
So what is the alignment of Jat?


Jat's conversations and great and many
especially with the dying hapahauli
if he were cred-seeking scum
he wouldn't be such a chum
to someone we'd so soon bury

It's possible about him I'm wrong
and he's surely and enormous dong
but today we should focus
on hapa and xatalos
on whom the cases are much more strong


What about yamato? He just practically claimed scum.


where


Check my post on this page.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
turtlevine
Profile Joined August 2014
74 Posts
August 23 2014 22:04 GMT
#1455
On August 24 2014 07:00 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 06:57 turtlevine wrote:
On August 24 2014 06:53 Xatalos wrote:
On August 24 2014 06:52 turtlevine wrote:
On August 24 2014 06:32 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 24 2014 06:24 turtlevine wrote:
there's once was a player named jat
who generally acted like a total asshat
when playing this game
he makes the experience lame
I'm tempted to vote him to stop that


Thanks for asking him to "stop that"
But it matters not if he is an asshat
You seem to know him
And given his filter a skim
So what is the alignment of Jat?


Jat's conversations and great and many
especially with the dying hapahauli
if he were cred-seeking scum
he wouldn't be such a chum
to someone we'd so soon bury

It's possible about him I'm wrong
and he's surely and enormous dong
but today we should focus
on hapa and xatalos
on whom the cases are much more strong


What about yamato? He just practically claimed scum.


where


Check my post on this page.


I hoped it was not the case
that your reasoning was so base
giving up can be done
just cause of not-fun
not because of alignment in this case

you could say something no matter your role
for example "hello" or other statements droll
what meta cases MUST show
(this you should know)
is that there's a basic demonstrably repeatable difference between the person's town and scum game. For example, someone could always say "hello everyone" as scum, but unless they don't ever do it as town, it's not good evidence for them being scum. Even if they only do it as scum, you need to show that they've been in similar situations as town and not done it. you'll need to do better than that if you want my vote to... roll.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 23 2014 22:05 GMT
#1456
I claimed not having time you asshat

reading comprehension
Writer@WriterYamato
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 23 2014 22:09 GMT
#1457
Xata after Yamato did that in the other game did he post again after it?
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 22:12 GMT
#1458
On August 24 2014 07:04 turtlevine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 07:00 Xatalos wrote:
On August 24 2014 06:57 turtlevine wrote:
On August 24 2014 06:53 Xatalos wrote:
On August 24 2014 06:52 turtlevine wrote:
On August 24 2014 06:32 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 24 2014 06:24 turtlevine wrote:
there's once was a player named jat
who generally acted like a total asshat
when playing this game
he makes the experience lame
I'm tempted to vote him to stop that


Thanks for asking him to "stop that"
But it matters not if he is an asshat
You seem to know him
And given his filter a skim
So what is the alignment of Jat?


Jat's conversations and great and many
especially with the dying hapahauli
if he were cred-seeking scum
he wouldn't be such a chum
to someone we'd so soon bury

It's possible about him I'm wrong
and he's surely and enormous dong
but today we should focus
on hapa and xatalos
on whom the cases are much more strong


What about yamato? He just practically claimed scum.


where


Check my post on this page.


I hoped it was not the case
that your reasoning was so base
giving up can be done
just cause of not-fun
not because of alignment in this case

you could say something no matter your role
for example "hello" or other statements droll
what meta cases MUST show
(this you should know)
is that there's a basic demonstrably repeatable difference between the person's town and scum game. For example, someone could always say "hello everyone" as scum, but unless they don't ever do it as town, it's not good evidence for them being scum. Even if they only do it as scum, you need to show that they've been in similar situations as town and not done it. you'll need to do better than that if you want my vote to... roll.


It's just that he gave up pretty much exactly in the same manner, in the same tone, and even at the same time of day (lol). The only difference is that he said he doesn't have enough "time" instead of "motivation" to prevent getting lynched. I don't think that's a significant difference though. Like if he's tight on time, why not just try your best while you have time? (town yamato should be excited about the approaching deadline, like in Vendetta Strada, but here he's all *but* excited)
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 23 2014 22:13 GMT
#1459
In Arnie he wasn't excited about the approaching dead line either he put his vote down day one and peace'd out and was town.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 22:13 GMT
#1460
On August 24 2014 07:09 Damdred wrote:
Xata after Yamato did that in the other game did he post again after it?


See here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/445063-handslaps-and-fisticuff-a-pyp-mini?user=yamato77&page=2
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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