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On August 24 2014 07:12 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 07:04 turtlevine wrote:On August 24 2014 07:00 Xatalos wrote:On August 24 2014 06:57 turtlevine wrote:On August 24 2014 06:53 Xatalos wrote:On August 24 2014 06:52 turtlevine wrote:On August 24 2014 06:32 Hapahauli wrote:On August 24 2014 06:24 turtlevine wrote:
there's once was a player named jat
who generally acted like a total asshat
when playing this game
he makes the experience lame
I'm tempted to vote him to stop that Thanks for asking him to "stop that" But it matters not if he is an asshat You seem to know him And given his filter a skim So what is the alignment of Jat? Jat's conversations and great and many especially with the dying hapahauli if he were cred-seeking scum he wouldn't be such a chum to someone we'd so soon bury It's possible about him I'm wrong and he's surely and enormous dong but today we should focus on hapa and xatalos on whom the cases are much more strong What about yamato? He just practically claimed scum. where Check my post on this page. I hoped it was not the case that your reasoning was so base giving up can be done just cause of not-fun not because of alignment in this case you could say something no matter your role for example "hello" or other statements droll what meta cases MUST show (this you should know) is that there's a basic demonstrably repeatable difference between the person's town and scum game. For example, someone could always say "hello everyone" as scum, but unless they don't ever do it as town, it's not good evidence for them being scum. Even if they only do it as scum, you need to show that they've been in similar situations as town and not done it. you'll need to do better than that if you want my vote to... roll. It's just that he gave up pretty much exactly in the same manner, in the same tone, and even at the same time of day (lol). The only difference is that he said he doesn't have enough "time" instead of "motivation" to prevent getting lynched. I don't think that's a significant difference though. Like if he's tight on time, why not just try your best while you have time? (town yamato should be excited about the approaching deadline, like in Vendetta Strada, but here he's all *but* excited)
You're still missing the point. It doesn't matter how similar this is to something he did as scum, it has to be something he also doesn't do as town, even in similar situations, and it has to be consistent. That's how meta works. Stop missing the point.
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On August 24 2014 07:14 turtlevine wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 07:12 Xatalos wrote:On August 24 2014 07:04 turtlevine wrote:On August 24 2014 07:00 Xatalos wrote:On August 24 2014 06:57 turtlevine wrote:On August 24 2014 06:53 Xatalos wrote:On August 24 2014 06:52 turtlevine wrote:On August 24 2014 06:32 Hapahauli wrote:On August 24 2014 06:24 turtlevine wrote:
there's once was a player named jat
who generally acted like a total asshat
when playing this game
he makes the experience lame
I'm tempted to vote him to stop that Thanks for asking him to "stop that" But it matters not if he is an asshat You seem to know him And given his filter a skim So what is the alignment of Jat? Jat's conversations and great and many especially with the dying hapahauli if he were cred-seeking scum he wouldn't be such a chum to someone we'd so soon bury It's possible about him I'm wrong and he's surely and enormous dong but today we should focus on hapa and xatalos on whom the cases are much more strong What about yamato? He just practically claimed scum. where Check my post on this page. I hoped it was not the case that your reasoning was so base giving up can be done just cause of not-fun not because of alignment in this case you could say something no matter your role for example "hello" or other statements droll what meta cases MUST show (this you should know) is that there's a basic demonstrably repeatable difference between the person's town and scum game. For example, someone could always say "hello everyone" as scum, but unless they don't ever do it as town, it's not good evidence for them being scum. Even if they only do it as scum, you need to show that they've been in similar situations as town and not done it. you'll need to do better than that if you want my vote to... roll. It's just that he gave up pretty much exactly in the same manner, in the same tone, and even at the same time of day (lol). The only difference is that he said he doesn't have enough "time" instead of "motivation" to prevent getting lynched. I don't think that's a significant difference though. Like if he's tight on time, why not just try your best while you have time? (town yamato should be excited about the approaching deadline, like in Vendetta Strada, but here he's all *but* excited) You're still missing the point. It doesn't matter how similar this is to something he did as scum, it has to be something he also doesn't do as town, even in similar situations, and it has to be consistent. That's how meta works. Stop missing the point.
Read here for town yamato approach to deadline: http://www.vendetta-strada.net/showthread.php?tid=1785&page=20
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I was actually just looking at that. There he went AFK for the deadline, true, but he never showed any signs of resignation like here. And look at this post:
On August 20 2014 01:21 yamato77 wrote:
no, we're lynching poofter
dissent will be punished
Has yamato actually posted anything like that yet here? He posted a lot of similar "I'm right, whoever disagrees is scum" posts in Vendetta Strada too. Not once here.
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And not once in the PYP game either.
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In conclusion:
1) Town yamato doesn't make posts where he "gives up", scum yamato does
2) Town yamato is confident and aggro on players who disagree with him, scum yamato is not
Scum fits perfectly in this game for him.
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Based on these heuristics I mean.
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On August 24 2014 06:41 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 06:19 Hapahauli wrote:On August 24 2014 06:12 justanothertownie wrote:On August 24 2014 06:11 Hapahauli wrote:On August 24 2014 06:09 justanothertownie wrote:On August 24 2014 06:08 Hapahauli wrote:
I confused "championship" game with the ones run on 2p2. That's pretty much it. That wasn't clear from my posts? Yes, it was. But it shows that you have no idea about that game. No, it means that I didn't immediately associate "championship" with the TL game. Again, where is this going? You are basing your read on me on a game you didn't even read anything of. You made a conclusion about my play off of a random number of pages I had in that game. No. Let me break it down for you: 1) "Championship" game commonly refers to the series run on 2p2. I had read all those games months ago. 2) I had read iamperfection's game sometime while it was going on. 3) When you mentioned "championship game", I immediately thought of the 2p2 series as opposed to iamperfection's game. 4) Hence it is possible for me to associate "championship" with another game series, while having read the game you played in. Though again, why this line of questioning as opposed to talking about my cases, reads, etc? It's just stupid and pedantic. Even if you had an "AH HA, GOTCHA, CONTRADICTED YOURSELF" moment, so what? You're going to get contradictions left and right if you keep asking loaded questions and keep shoe-horning your assumptions into your own narrative. Are you misunderstanding this on purpose? I DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR MISTAKE REGARDING WHICH GAME TO LOOK AT OR WHICH SITE. I never did. I CARE ABOUT YOU BASING YOUR READ ON ME ON A GAME YOU DID NOT READ. Is this really that hard to understand?
See #2: I read iamperfection's game.
Not remembering which game I saw your 24 page filter off of the top of my head in rapidfire questioning =/= not having read the game.
You have a shockingly little amount of imagination.
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On August 24 2014 07:25 Xatalos wrote:
In conclusion:
1) Town yamato doesn't make posts where he "gives up", scum yamato does
2) Town yamato is confident and aggro on players who disagree with him, scum yamato is not
Scum fits perfectly in this game for him.
You're drawing a distinction without a difference,
and "scum fits perfectly" is a massive overreach.
Though I certainly don't like how yamato plays,
this is how he always does.
badly.
This does not improve my opinion of you at all.
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its geript
fucking lynch me now
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On August 21 2014 23:19 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 21:48 Damdred wrote:
Also the push on you wasn't that crazy, i still stand behind your reads were really lacking this game and you can say I asked small questions which i did cause i wanted you more involved at that point than just posting one liners and your reasons for voteing poof were horrrrrribbbleeee and then you started soft claiming Well yeah I'll admit that scumhunting is the weakest part of my play. That's why my reads are generally pretty weak at the early stages of the game and slowly get better from there when I can see vote movements, deadline behaviour, night actions, roleclaims etc. I guess this game wasn't really my ideal game since there was so little to form reads with  Like many players had only 1-3 pages of filter.
This is from arnie. And your approach to Yamato seems so unlike your normal play Xat....
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On August 24 2014 07:30 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 06:41 justanothertownie wrote:On August 24 2014 06:19 Hapahauli wrote:On August 24 2014 06:12 justanothertownie wrote:On August 24 2014 06:11 Hapahauli wrote:On August 24 2014 06:09 justanothertownie wrote:On August 24 2014 06:08 Hapahauli wrote:
I confused "championship" game with the ones run on 2p2. That's pretty much it. That wasn't clear from my posts? Yes, it was. But it shows that you have no idea about that game. No, it means that I didn't immediately associate "championship" with the TL game. Again, where is this going? You are basing your read on me on a game you didn't even read anything of. You made a conclusion about my play off of a random number of pages I had in that game. No. Let me break it down for you: 1) "Championship" game commonly refers to the series run on 2p2. I had read all those games months ago. 2) I had read iamperfection's game sometime while it was going on. 3) When you mentioned "championship game", I immediately thought of the 2p2 series as opposed to iamperfection's game. 4) Hence it is possible for me to associate "championship" with another game series, while having read the game you played in. Though again, why this line of questioning as opposed to talking about my cases, reads, etc? It's just stupid and pedantic. Even if you had an "AH HA, GOTCHA, CONTRADICTED YOURSELF" moment, so what? You're going to get contradictions left and right if you keep asking loaded questions and keep shoe-horning your assumptions into your own narrative. Are you misunderstanding this on purpose? I DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR MISTAKE REGARDING WHICH GAME TO LOOK AT OR WHICH SITE. I never did. I CARE ABOUT YOU BASING YOUR READ ON ME ON A GAME YOU DID NOT READ. Is this really that hard to understand? See #2: I read iamperfection's game. Not remembering which game I saw your 24 page filter off of the top of my head in rapidfire questioning =/= not having read the game. You have a shockingly little amount of imagination.
You did not read iamperfections game because that is the game I had the 24 page filter. What the hell?
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I really don't like what Xata has done here.
Yamato was his town read for a long time. But now he goes full against him being scum. Yeh I agree but it just seems such a big switch.
Considering Xat said he still has Hapa as town and still has rayn as leaning scummy how can be against someone who had all the same reads as him.
I think Yam is mafia here for sure but Xat is just bussing him to get some credibility.
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On August 24 2014 07:35 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 07:30 Hapahauli wrote:On August 24 2014 06:41 justanothertownie wrote:On August 24 2014 06:19 Hapahauli wrote:On August 24 2014 06:12 justanothertownie wrote:On August 24 2014 06:11 Hapahauli wrote:On August 24 2014 06:09 justanothertownie wrote:On August 24 2014 06:08 Hapahauli wrote:
I confused "championship" game with the ones run on 2p2. That's pretty much it. That wasn't clear from my posts? Yes, it was. But it shows that you have no idea about that game. No, it means that I didn't immediately associate "championship" with the TL game. Again, where is this going? You are basing your read on me on a game you didn't even read anything of. You made a conclusion about my play off of a random number of pages I had in that game. No. Let me break it down for you: 1) "Championship" game commonly refers to the series run on 2p2. I had read all those games months ago. 2) I had read iamperfection's game sometime while it was going on. 3) When you mentioned "championship game", I immediately thought of the 2p2 series as opposed to iamperfection's game. 4) Hence it is possible for me to associate "championship" with another game series, while having read the game you played in. Though again, why this line of questioning as opposed to talking about my cases, reads, etc? It's just stupid and pedantic. Even if you had an "AH HA, GOTCHA, CONTRADICTED YOURSELF" moment, so what? You're going to get contradictions left and right if you keep asking loaded questions and keep shoe-horning your assumptions into your own narrative. Are you misunderstanding this on purpose? I DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR MISTAKE REGARDING WHICH GAME TO LOOK AT OR WHICH SITE. I never did. I CARE ABOUT YOU BASING YOUR READ ON ME ON A GAME YOU DID NOT READ. Is this really that hard to understand? See #2: I read iamperfection's game. Not remembering which game I saw your 24 page filter off of the top of my head in rapidfire questioning =/= not having read the game. You have a shockingly little amount of imagination. You did not read iamperfections game because that is the game I had the 24 page filter. What the hell?
What you wrote actually doesn't make sense.
Sense = 0
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Wait you claim to have read it now but earlier you claimed that you only knew about my filter because of what xatalos said. This doesn't make any sense at all.
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On August 24 2014 07:34 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2014 23:19 Xatalos wrote:On August 21 2014 21:48 Damdred wrote:
Also the push on you wasn't that crazy, i still stand behind your reads were really lacking this game and you can say I asked small questions which i did cause i wanted you more involved at that point than just posting one liners and your reasons for voteing poof were horrrrrribbbleeee and then you started soft claiming Well yeah I'll admit that scumhunting is the weakest part of my play. That's why my reads are generally pretty weak at the early stages of the game and slowly get better from there when I can see vote movements, deadline behaviour, night actions, roleclaims etc. I guess this game wasn't really my ideal game since there was so little to form reads with Like many players had only 1-3 pages of filter. This is from arnie. And your approach to Yamato seems so unlike your normal play Xat....
See my filter in the PYP game. Once I found yamato scum I pushed him until he died.
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On August 24 2014 07:35 KelsierSC wrote:
I really don't like what Xata has done here.
Yamato was his town read for a long time. But now he goes full against him being scum. Yeh I agree but it just seems such a big switch.
Considering Xat said he still has Hapa as town and still has rayn as leaning scummy how can be against someone who had all the same reads as him.
I think Yam is mafia here for sure but Xat is just bussing him to get some credibility.
If you think so then vote yamato. Doesn't matter to me if you think I'm bussing.
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On August 24 2014 07:38 justanothertownie wrote:
Wait you claim to have read it now but earlier you claimed that you only knew about my filter because of what xatalos said. This doesn't make any sense at all.
I want you to go back to that post and quote it for me.
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On August 24 2014 07:40 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 07:35 KelsierSC wrote:
I really don't like what Xata has done here.
Yamato was his town read for a long time. But now he goes full against him being scum. Yeh I agree but it just seems such a big switch.
Considering Xat said he still has Hapa as town and still has rayn as leaning scummy how can be against someone who had all the same reads as him.
I think Yam is mafia here for sure but Xat is just bussing him to get some credibility. If you think so then vote yamato. Doesn't matter to me if you think I'm bussing.
I want you to explain your logic.
You are now sure yamata is mafia but you are pretty sure rayn is scum and hapa is still town.
So how can you be sure yam is mafia if you are sure rayn is mafia considering yam went hard against rayn.
you have no logical consistency, this is the only consistent aspect of your play.
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On August 24 2014 07:40 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 07:38 justanothertownie wrote:
Wait you claim to have read it now but earlier you claimed that you only knew about my filter because of what xatalos said. This doesn't make any sense at all. I want you to go back to that post and quote it for me.
On August 24 2014 06:06 Hapahauli wrote:
The information had been brought up by someone in the thread already (the 24 page game, even if I knew it existed before), and it's a question that I'm going to have no trouble answering regardless of my alignment. Nor is the answer really going to say anything about my alignment either.
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