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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16341 Posts
August 23 2014 22:54 GMT
#1501
On August 24 2014 07:53 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 07:53 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 24 2014 07:52 Xatalos wrote:
On August 24 2014 07:51 justanothertownie wrote:
Voting does not equal pushing.


Pushing while voting elsewhere is weak.

Voting without pushing too.


What are you even trying to say with this line of questions?

I am saying that I disagree with your statement that yamato was pushing WoS harder than rayn.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 22:55 GMT
#1502
On August 24 2014 07:51 turtlevine wrote:
I don't buy anything Xat has said recently,
so I'm breaking ranks with my mason buddy
let's get rid of Xat
his lies and just can't
let me continue to follow GB

##unvote
##vote Xatalos


I'm disappointed.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 23 2014 22:55 GMT
#1503
On August 24 2014 07:51 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 07:49 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 24 2014 07:49 Xatalos wrote:
On August 24 2014 07:47 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 24 2014 07:46 Xatalos wrote:
It would also explain how yamato managed to express genuine emotions when posting about rayn. Maybe he knew that rayn was scum? Yeah he did post against rayn but he never voted or brought any additional arguments against him. That's semi-bussing at best.

It is still the hardest yamato pushed anything this game, no?


Yes, but still not very hard. And I've often pushed scum as scum D1, then dropped it by the end of the day (like yamato here against rayn). Whatever. I just want to lynch yamato. We can think about connections later.


Be scummier holy fuck.



So are you ever voting for your top scumread, yamato, or not?


You and Yamato are both my top scumreads

I would happily lynch either of you right now
Zerg for Life
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 23 2014 22:57 GMT
#1504
Kelsier - this entire line of questioning and suspicion on Xata is based around Yamato being mafia. It seems to me pretty clear where your vote should be.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 23:01 GMT
#1505
On August 24 2014 07:55 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 07:51 Xatalos wrote:
On August 24 2014 07:49 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 24 2014 07:49 Xatalos wrote:
On August 24 2014 07:47 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 24 2014 07:46 Xatalos wrote:
It would also explain how yamato managed to express genuine emotions when posting about rayn. Maybe he knew that rayn was scum? Yeah he did post against rayn but he never voted or brought any additional arguments against him. That's semi-bussing at best.

It is still the hardest yamato pushed anything this game, no?


Yes, but still not very hard. And I've often pushed scum as scum D1, then dropped it by the end of the day (like yamato here against rayn). Whatever. I just want to lynch yamato. We can think about connections later.


Be scummier holy fuck.



So are you ever voting for your top scumread, yamato, or not?


You and Yamato are both my top scumreads

I would happily lynch either of you right now


Okay then.... Let's assume that we're both scum. Even though I can't fathom how you still think that after all the sense I've tried to talk to you.

1) yamato has done nothing and he most likely will not do anything from here on
2) I am the most active poster and I will certainly continue to post, leaving more clues to the remaining scumteam

Why not lynch yamato -> me? Seems like it makes a lot more sense. Especially after you said that "yamato is mafia for sure" while you only "think that Xatalos is bussing him".
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16341 Posts
August 23 2014 23:01 GMT
#1506
On August 24 2014 00:19 IAmRobik wrote:
Wait, what?!?! Why aren't hapa and Yamato voting for rayn. They're sooooooo fucking convinced he's scum. Did something change since pg 40?

And then he disappeared forever.
Hapa, how about an opinion on Robik? You don't even have to read that much.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 23 2014 23:03 GMT
#1507
And this Xatalos stuff makes me think that none of you have ever seen him play mafia.

Dessert Mini Mafia for example:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/392955-dessert-mini-mafia?user=Xatalos

He's focused. He's pushing clear cases. Pretty aggressive.

I just skimmed Titanic II and got almost the same impression.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/436388-ii-titanic-mini-mafia?user=Xatalos&page=3

Look how many people he votes early on. Look at him build cases, push aggressive opinions.

Point is, all the stuff that you're "expecting" from town-Xatalos is completely false. That's actually more in line with his mafia persona.

Xatalos as town posts every damn thing that comes to his mind. Everything. All the wishy-washy stuff, all the undeveloped reads, all the everything. And with that comes a shitton of contradictions and lack of logical progression, because the stream of consciousness of someone's mind is borderline incoherent.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 23 2014 23:04 GMT
#1508
On August 24 2014 08:01 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 00:19 IAmRobik wrote:
Wait, what?!?! Why aren't hapa and Yamato voting for rayn. They're sooooooo fucking convinced he's scum. Did something change since pg 40?

And then he disappeared forever.
Hapa, how about an opinion on Robik? You don't even have to read that much.


Why the fuck are we talking about players that aren't up on the block? Fuck robik. He's null as fuck, and he's actually probably town because of the "I'm town" shit that he's doing.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16341 Posts
August 23 2014 23:06 GMT
#1509
On August 24 2014 08:04 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 08:01 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 24 2014 00:19 IAmRobik wrote:
Wait, what?!?! Why aren't hapa and Yamato voting for rayn. They're sooooooo fucking convinced he's scum. Did something change since pg 40?

And then he disappeared forever.
Hapa, how about an opinion on Robik? You don't even have to read that much.


Why the fuck are we talking about players that aren't up on the block? Fuck robik. He's null as fuck, and he's actually probably town because of the "I'm town" shit that he's doing.

Ok, who is up on the block? You and yamato? There is a limited amount of stuff that you can say about yamato and the best thing to figure you out is to make you give reads.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 23:07 GMT
#1510
On August 24 2014 08:03 Hapahauli wrote:
And this Xatalos stuff makes me think that none of you have ever seen him play mafia.

Dessert Mini Mafia for example:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/392955-dessert-mini-mafia?user=Xatalos

He's focused. He's pushing clear cases. Pretty aggressive.

I just skimmed Titanic II and got almost the same impression.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/436388-ii-titanic-mini-mafia?user=Xatalos&page=3

Look how many people he votes early on. Look at him build cases, push aggressive opinions.

Point is, all the stuff that you're "expecting" from town-Xatalos is completely false. That's actually more in line with his mafia persona.

Xatalos as town posts every damn thing that comes to his mind. Everything. All the wishy-washy stuff, all the undeveloped reads, all the everything. And with that comes a shitton of contradictions and lack of logical progression, because the stream of consciousness of someone's mind is borderline incoherent.


This is exactly the case. As scum I play as I expect the "ideal town player" to play. As town I post whatever I want.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 23:08 GMT
#1511
The funny thing is, I've always been universally townread as scum on D1 (except in Intrigue where I pushed town marv + contradicted myself between thread and PM's lol). Never the case as town.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 23 2014 23:09 GMT
#1512
On August 24 2014 08:06 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 08:04 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 24 2014 08:01 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 24 2014 00:19 IAmRobik wrote:
Wait, what?!?! Why aren't hapa and Yamato voting for rayn. They're sooooooo fucking convinced he's scum. Did something change since pg 40?

And then he disappeared forever.
Hapa, how about an opinion on Robik? You don't even have to read that much.


Why the fuck are we talking about players that aren't up on the block? Fuck robik. He's null as fuck, and he's actually probably town because of the "I'm town" shit that he's doing.

Ok, who is up on the block? You and yamato? There is a limited amount of stuff that you can say about yamato and the best thing to figure you out is to make you give reads.


My priority is to get Yamato lynched, and Xatalos not lynched. I'm not going to accomplish this by putting up with the useless questions you ask me. I already wasted 3 hours of my life responding to something you misread in my filter. I've responded to you plenty.

Now it's your turn to get an opinion of something, push a read, and do anything other than asking me useless questions. If that means you vote me, go right ahead, this is a waste of my time.

You have a brain. Use it.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16341 Posts
August 23 2014 23:10 GMT
#1513
On August 24 2014 08:09 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 08:06 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 24 2014 08:04 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 24 2014 08:01 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 24 2014 00:19 IAmRobik wrote:
Wait, what?!?! Why aren't hapa and Yamato voting for rayn. They're sooooooo fucking convinced he's scum. Did something change since pg 40?

And then he disappeared forever.
Hapa, how about an opinion on Robik? You don't even have to read that much.


Why the fuck are we talking about players that aren't up on the block? Fuck robik. He's null as fuck, and he's actually probably town because of the "I'm town" shit that he's doing.

Ok, who is up on the block? You and yamato? There is a limited amount of stuff that you can say about yamato and the best thing to figure you out is to make you give reads.


My priority is to get Yamato lynched, and Xatalos not lynched. I'm not going to accomplish this by putting up with the useless questions you ask me. I already wasted 3 hours of my life responding to something you misread in my filter. I've responded to you plenty.

Now it's your turn to get an opinion of something, push a read, and do anything other than asking me useless questions. If that means you vote me, go right ahead, this is a waste of my time.

You have a brain. Use it.

Everything I do is to get an opinion. I fail to see how it hurts you to give reads.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 23 2014 23:11 GMT
#1514
On August 24 2014 08:10 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 08:09 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 24 2014 08:06 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 24 2014 08:04 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 24 2014 08:01 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 24 2014 00:19 IAmRobik wrote:
Wait, what?!?! Why aren't hapa and Yamato voting for rayn. They're sooooooo fucking convinced he's scum. Did something change since pg 40?

And then he disappeared forever.
Hapa, how about an opinion on Robik? You don't even have to read that much.


Why the fuck are we talking about players that aren't up on the block? Fuck robik. He's null as fuck, and he's actually probably town because of the "I'm town" shit that he's doing.

Ok, who is up on the block? You and yamato? There is a limited amount of stuff that you can say about yamato and the best thing to figure you out is to make you give reads.


My priority is to get Yamato lynched, and Xatalos not lynched. I'm not going to accomplish this by putting up with the useless questions you ask me. I already wasted 3 hours of my life responding to something you misread in my filter. I've responded to you plenty.

Now it's your turn to get an opinion of something, push a read, and do anything other than asking me useless questions. If that means you vote me, go right ahead, this is a waste of my time.

You have a brain. Use it.

Everything I do is to get an opinion. I fail to see how it hurts you to give reads.


Your idea of information gathering is to beat someone to death with a spoon.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16341 Posts
August 23 2014 23:12 GMT
#1515
On August 24 2014 08:11 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 08:10 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 24 2014 08:09 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 24 2014 08:06 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 24 2014 08:04 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 24 2014 08:01 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 24 2014 00:19 IAmRobik wrote:
Wait, what?!?! Why aren't hapa and Yamato voting for rayn. They're sooooooo fucking convinced he's scum. Did something change since pg 40?

And then he disappeared forever.
Hapa, how about an opinion on Robik? You don't even have to read that much.


Why the fuck are we talking about players that aren't up on the block? Fuck robik. He's null as fuck, and he's actually probably town because of the "I'm town" shit that he's doing.

Ok, who is up on the block? You and yamato? There is a limited amount of stuff that you can say about yamato and the best thing to figure you out is to make you give reads.


My priority is to get Yamato lynched, and Xatalos not lynched. I'm not going to accomplish this by putting up with the useless questions you ask me. I already wasted 3 hours of my life responding to something you misread in my filter. I've responded to you plenty.

Now it's your turn to get an opinion of something, push a read, and do anything other than asking me useless questions. If that means you vote me, go right ahead, this is a waste of my time.

You have a brain. Use it.

Everything I do is to get an opinion. I fail to see how it hurts you to give reads.


Your idea of information gathering is to beat someone to death with a spoon.

No it's not. I went hard on you earlier because I misunderstood something. Asking for reads is not beating with a spoon.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 23 2014 23:14 GMT
#1516
On August 24 2014 07:34 yamato77 wrote:
its geript

fucking lynch me now

The fuck is this?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 23:14 GMT
#1517
On August 24 2014 07:54 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 07:53 Xatalos wrote:
On August 24 2014 07:53 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 24 2014 07:52 Xatalos wrote:
On August 24 2014 07:51 justanothertownie wrote:
Voting does not equal pushing.


Pushing while voting elsewhere is weak.

Voting without pushing too.


What are you even trying to say with this line of questions?

I am saying that I disagree with your statement that yamato was pushing WoS harder than rayn.


Oh yeah this. It's not even really relevant to yamato being scum, only relevant to the possible connection between rayn and yamato. I think yamato just rode on Hapa's case without adding anything, without voting. Against WOS he voted and even gave some reasons. Whatever. I don't care about this topic really. It doesn't matter for yamato being scum or not.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 23 2014 23:15 GMT
#1518
On August 24 2014 08:12 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 08:11 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 24 2014 08:10 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 24 2014 08:09 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 24 2014 08:06 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 24 2014 08:04 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 24 2014 08:01 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 24 2014 00:19 IAmRobik wrote:
Wait, what?!?! Why aren't hapa and Yamato voting for rayn. They're sooooooo fucking convinced he's scum. Did something change since pg 40?

And then he disappeared forever.
Hapa, how about an opinion on Robik? You don't even have to read that much.


Why the fuck are we talking about players that aren't up on the block? Fuck robik. He's null as fuck, and he's actually probably town because of the "I'm town" shit that he's doing.

Ok, who is up on the block? You and yamato? There is a limited amount of stuff that you can say about yamato and the best thing to figure you out is to make you give reads.


My priority is to get Yamato lynched, and Xatalos not lynched. I'm not going to accomplish this by putting up with the useless questions you ask me. I already wasted 3 hours of my life responding to something you misread in my filter. I've responded to you plenty.

Now it's your turn to get an opinion of something, push a read, and do anything other than asking me useless questions. If that means you vote me, go right ahead, this is a waste of my time.

You have a brain. Use it.

Everything I do is to get an opinion. I fail to see how it hurts you to give reads.


Your idea of information gathering is to beat someone to death with a spoon.

No it's not. I went hard on you earlier because I misunderstood something. Asking for reads is not beating with a spoon.


I. am. not. answering. your. questions. anymore.

You're going to talk to me about why Xatalos is town, why Yamato is mafia, and why you're about to vote Yamato.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 23 2014 23:16 GMT
#1519
I want Rayn to come back and talk about hapa.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 23:16 GMT
#1520
On August 24 2014 08:14 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 07:34 yamato77 wrote:
its geript

fucking lynch me now

The fuck is this?


Maybe he thinks turtlevine is geript. Not that it really matters.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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