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On August 24 2014 02:14 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 02:12 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 24 2014 02:11 justanothertownie wrote:On August 24 2014 02:10 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 24 2014 02:09 justanothertownie wrote:On August 24 2014 02:07 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 24 2014 02:05 KelsierSC wrote:On August 24 2014 02:02 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 24 2014 02:00 KelsierSC wrote:
Also it isn't just they have the same read but it is the style of the read.
so for example. I like you because you have the same read on yamata but also you offer some insight into why you have the read and it didn't feel like you were sheeping anyone else so it felt towny to me. What do you consider sheeping? Is it something town or scum do? When and why? Sheeping is what I think Yam and Xat did with the Hapa read because they didn't really add anything to the original points and just hopped on a bw. It feels scummy to me. They do it if they want to push a ML. Alright, say you're town and have no strong reads at the end of the day. You have a near-confirmed-but-not-quite townie on your team. How do you vote? It is nice that you are lecturing him but is this supposed to lead anywhere? Of course. I'm cementing my handle on his play. JAT who are you voting today? That's a decision I won't make right now. I want to hear from Hapa first. So you are leaning towards Hapa? I am leaning towards nothing right now. Yamato could be a decent lynch. Maybe Xatalos. You aren't off the table either,
How decisive you are.
On August 24 2014 02:12 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 02:07 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 24 2014 02:05 KelsierSC wrote:On August 24 2014 02:02 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 24 2014 02:00 KelsierSC wrote:
Also it isn't just they have the same read but it is the style of the read.
so for example. I like you because you have the same read on yamata but also you offer some insight into why you have the read and it didn't feel like you were sheeping anyone else so it felt towny to me. What do you consider sheeping? Is it something town or scum do? When and why? Sheeping is what I think Yam and Xat did with the Hapa read because they didn't really add anything to the original points and just hopped on a bw. It feels scummy to me. They do it if they want to push a ML. Alright, say you're town and have no strong reads at the end of the day. You have a near-confirmed-but-not-quite townie on your team. How do you vote? If by the end of the day I had no strong reads I would probably just suicide for being useless. In all seriousness yes I would probably vote along with the confirmed town.. Was that the case in this situation? It was not near the end of day and it was the FIRST post Hapa had made, he was nowhere near confirmed. Dam what is your read on WoS now?
No that's not the case in this situation...you didn't exactly get what I was going for either because I was trying to make it extremely hypothetical. I didn't say confirmed town, I said near in that there's a chance said person could still be scum, but whatever. I have what i need from you 
No lynchy.
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Prome where are you? Play the game plz. I want some more insight on rayn and hapa, and you're better at meta shit than me.
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On August 24 2014 02:09 VayneAuthority wrote:
nah wave rayn is town.
Oh right and forgot about this.
Why?
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On August 24 2014 02:18 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 01:22 KelsierSC wrote:
As for my reads
Town - Dam,GB,Turtle,JAT,VA,WoS,rayn,Hapa
Scum - Yam,Xat
null - Onegu
Obviously one of town reads is wrong but for d1 i like to make a big town circle and eliminate from there.
I'd like explanations as well but I'll go with this and examine the similarities and differences. Apparently a big reason for you to scumread me is that our "reads are different" so this should at last put your argument to rest. GB/turtlevine - obviously agreed WOS/Hapa/jat - agreed Damdred - somewhat agreed but I think there's a chance he could be scum - definitely not for the reasons rayn mentioned though, and not a lynch candidate for now - town? VA - apparently serious VA = scum VA, I don't really know VA that well but I wouldn't at least townread him so easily - scum? rayn - pretty hard to townread him when he's constantly brought BS arguments against me, ignored his own strategy to read me (probably because it would just make me look good), softpushed / validated his reads from the thread, pushed a REALLY bad case against Damdred etc. - scum yamato - useless yamato isn't necessarily scum yamato, and I think he's shown some of his townie characteristics... with that said his continued lurking and making these quick useless posts here and there doesn't look good so I'm not very confident to call him town anymore - nullish Onegu - I think his entrance to the thread was good, not a fan of his repeated questions about the Masons though - town lean still Overall if we ignore GB/turtlevine, we agree on 4 out of 8 reads and the only significant difference is rayn/VA. Why do you townread VA btw?
I know you were asked to do this, but I absolutely hate this post.
Can't even pinpoint why.
lol maybe rayn has solved the game
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On August 24 2014 02:19 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 02:12 KelsierSC wrote:On August 24 2014 02:07 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 24 2014 02:05 KelsierSC wrote:On August 24 2014 02:02 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 24 2014 02:00 KelsierSC wrote:
Also it isn't just they have the same read but it is the style of the read.
so for example. I like you because you have the same read on yamata but also you offer some insight into why you have the read and it didn't feel like you were sheeping anyone else so it felt towny to me. What do you consider sheeping? Is it something town or scum do? When and why? Sheeping is what I think Yam and Xat did with the Hapa read because they didn't really add anything to the original points and just hopped on a bw. It feels scummy to me. They do it if they want to push a ML. Alright, say you're town and have no strong reads at the end of the day. You have a near-confirmed-but-not-quite townie on your team. How do you vote? If by the end of the day I had no strong reads I would probably just suicide for being useless. In all seriousness yes I would probably vote along with the confirmed town.. Was that the case in this situation? It was not near the end of day and it was the FIRST post Hapa had made, he was nowhere near confirmed. Dam what is your read on WoS now? I'm actually going to go back on my original read. Hes actually being really logical and he seems to be helping and it seems to be coming form a town position. I like him a lot better than I did earlier in the thread at this point.
More backdown, not that I'm surprised. Filtering you right now. You're either on the table for me or off.
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On August 24 2014 02:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 02:06 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 24 2014 02:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:You're bad.  Yeah I'm well aware that you think so. There's nobody in mafia better than you hapa and marv /dicktug Fact is though, marv at least gets results a lot of the time, without having to resort to what you seem to have to. And even then, he is perfectly capable of completely fucking up a game---see Heavyweight Championships. Even if I were town in that game I can say with absolute certainty I would not follow marv blind into a lynch like the rest of everyone did, and I never will. The same thing applies now. The fact that you spam and feel the need to try and force town into it in fact makes me want to lynch hapa less just to spite you. I understand and maybe you are right. Maybe not. I believe i am right and when i do, i will try to mak peoole believe me.
I would be incredibly impressed if scumrayn said this.
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Oh shit if that's Prome and he also thinks Hapa is scum then we're getting somewhere.
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On August 24 2014 02:37 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 02:36 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 24 2014 02:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 24 2014 02:06 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 24 2014 02:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:You're bad. Yeah I'm well aware that you think so. There's nobody in mafia better than you hapa and marv /dicktug Fact is though, marv at least gets results a lot of the time, without having to resort to what you seem to have to. And even then, he is perfectly capable of completely fucking up a game---see Heavyweight Championships. Even if I were town in that game I can say with absolute certainty I would not follow marv blind into a lynch like the rest of everyone did, and I never will. The same thing applies now. The fact that you spam and feel the need to try and force town into it in fact makes me want to lynch hapa less just to spite you. I understand and maybe you are right. Maybe not. I believe i am right and when i do, i will try to mak peoole believe me. I would be incredibly impressed if scumrayn said this. wat, I think you are really undererstimating him.
Disagree.
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On August 24 2014 02:38 justanothertownie wrote:
I have no idea why you guys think it is prome. Because he did something similar once? Don't base reads on this...
On August 23 2014 01:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
It's definitely prome
nobody calls me a vet but him
Also think he did limericks in another game
Not sure what rayn's reason is.
Either way I don't think the two of them voting hapa alone would make me switch off yamato except if we needed to consolidate. I personally would give hapa more time.
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On August 24 2014 03:32 Xatalos wrote:
turtlevine is clearly an experienced player + town so him pushing Hapa makes me think about the meaning of life.
Although his read of me is bad, I can't just ignore him scumreading Hapa - I'm no expert on Hapa and certainly there's room for error in my judgment. I hope Hapa returns soon and really proves that he's town. Him dropping the rayn read based on spam and leaving didn't leave the best last impression.
Ok, but I don't see you doing anything about this.
Who is turtle, Xat, and what do you know of whom you think it is?
Also why are people not voting for yamato exactly? I see lots of waffling over Rayn/hapa, fine, but correct me if I'm wrong but no one currently has a townread on yamato, do they?
Also fuck lynching damdred today I don't have time for a filterdive until later tonight and I'm not confident enough.
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Jat, with all due respect, shut up.
I don't go in for unnecessary belligerence. My questions are not useless as I told Rayn. They get me what I want.
And as far as yamato goes, how exactly was that one sentence I wrote on people not voting for yamato a case? OR comparable to hapas in any way?
What in the fuck are you talking about?
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On August 24 2014 03:50 Hapahauli wrote:
Is JAT always this pedantic about irrelevant things?
As town, unfortunately.
Rayn too.
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Actually then again JAT does it as scum too, he's just ruder and more high-and-mighty as town.
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First of all, too late.
Second, the difference being I am actually voting for the guy, and pushing a case that I originally wrote, and rayn did neither at the time.
How is that even remotely the same?
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On August 24 2014 03:54 WaveofShadow wrote:
First of all, too late.
Second, the difference being I am actually voting for the guy, and pushing a case that I originally wrote, and rayn did neither at the time.
How is that even remotely the same?
AND on top of that yamato had barely done anything at that point in the game iirc---like the situations are completely different.
What did you hope to accomplish with this line of questioning?
It's so wtf
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On August 22 2014 23:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is noone calling yamato mafia?
This is when Rayn posted.
Yamato's filter is like 6 posts long at this point.
Currently it is >30.
Massive difference. It is not only the quantity of his posting (which is by itself a terrible heuristic) but the content and quality, which is absolute shit and belies the fact that he doesn't appear to care whatsoever.
This is really dumb JAT.
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The quality of posting isn't different, but there's obviously a point to see if he keeps it up after the first 6 posts of the game. You are being completely obtuse and it puzzles me.
I get your point but it strikes me as incredibly weak.
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I'm out for a while.
WWill be back before deadline. Should start consolidating.
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On August 24 2014 07:34 yamato77 wrote:
its geript
fucking lynch me now
The fuck is this?
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I want Rayn to come back and talk about hapa.
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EPT
