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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 23 2014 21:08 GMT
#1416
I confused "championship" game with the ones run on 2p2. That's pretty much it. That wasn't clear from my posts?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 23 2014 21:11 GMT
#1419
On August 24 2014 06:09 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 06:08 Hapahauli wrote:
I confused "championship" game with the ones run on 2p2. That's pretty much it. That wasn't clear from my posts?

Yes, it was. But it shows that you have no idea about that game.


No, it means that I didn't immediately associate "championship" with the TL game.

Again, where is this going?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 23 2014 21:13 GMT
#1423
On August 24 2014 06:11 justanothertownie wrote:
See Hapa, what you did so far is a garbage case on rayn that you retracted and now you are going on the 2 people who aren't doing anything. They may very well be scum but you are going after the easy targets.


Cool. Now what do you think of my cases then? Broad generalizations about my play aside of course.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 23 2014 21:19 GMT
#1429
On August 24 2014 06:12 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 06:11 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 24 2014 06:09 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 24 2014 06:08 Hapahauli wrote:
I confused "championship" game with the ones run on 2p2. That's pretty much it. That wasn't clear from my posts?

Yes, it was. But it shows that you have no idea about that game.


No, it means that I didn't immediately associate "championship" with the TL game.

Again, where is this going?

You are basing your read on me on a game you didn't even read anything of. You made a conclusion about my play off of a random number of pages I had in that game.


No. Let me break it down for you:

1) "Championship" game commonly refers to the series run on 2p2. I had read all those games months ago.
2) I had read iamperfection's game sometime while it was going on.
3) When you mentioned "championship game", I immediately thought of the 2p2 series as opposed to iamperfection's game.
4) Hence it is possible for me to associate "championship" with another game series, while having read the game you played in.

Though again, why this line of questioning as opposed to talking about my cases, reads, etc? It's just stupid and pedantic. Even if you had an "AH HA, GOTCHA, CONTRADICTED YOURSELF" moment, so what? You're going to get contradictions left and right if you keep asking loaded questions and keep shoe-horning your assumptions into your own narrative.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 23 2014 21:24 GMT
#1435
On August 24 2014 06:17 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 06:13 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 24 2014 06:11 justanothertownie wrote:
See Hapa, what you did so far is a garbage case on rayn that you retracted and now you are going on the 2 people who aren't doing anything. They may very well be scum but you are going after the easy targets.


Cool. Now what do you think of my cases then? Broad generalizations about my play aside of course.

You barely have a case on yamato. You are just stating the obvious and anyone could do that.
Your case on Vayne is not bad maybe. The good point here is that Vayne actually trys to look like he is interested which is not his townmeta as far as I see it.


Barely have a case on Yamato? I thought my point on his "confidence" post was rather good, and certainly not something that was "obvious."

Also, I have some fairly developed town-reads in my filter that you all together ignored.

You seem to be more interested in lining up my play with your narrative than looking at things the way they are.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 23 2014 21:32 GMT
#1440
On August 24 2014 06:24 turtlevine wrote:
there's once was a player named jat
who generally acted like a total asshat
when playing this game
he makes the experience lame
I'm tempted to vote him to stop that


Thanks for asking him to "stop that"
But it matters not if he is an asshat
You seem to know him
And given his filter a skim
So what is the alignment of Jat?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 23 2014 21:34 GMT
#1441
And with that artful contribution, I bid you all a fond farewell for the next hour. I must bathe in the sunlight.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 23 2014 22:30 GMT
#1468
On August 24 2014 06:41 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 06:19 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 24 2014 06:12 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 24 2014 06:11 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 24 2014 06:09 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 24 2014 06:08 Hapahauli wrote:
I confused "championship" game with the ones run on 2p2. That's pretty much it. That wasn't clear from my posts?

Yes, it was. But it shows that you have no idea about that game.


No, it means that I didn't immediately associate "championship" with the TL game.

Again, where is this going?

You are basing your read on me on a game you didn't even read anything of. You made a conclusion about my play off of a random number of pages I had in that game.


No. Let me break it down for you:

1) "Championship" game commonly refers to the series run on 2p2. I had read all those games months ago.
2) I had read iamperfection's game sometime while it was going on.
3) When you mentioned "championship game", I immediately thought of the 2p2 series as opposed to iamperfection's game.
4) Hence it is possible for me to associate "championship" with another game series, while having read the game you played in.

Though again, why this line of questioning as opposed to talking about my cases, reads, etc? It's just stupid and pedantic. Even if you had an "AH HA, GOTCHA, CONTRADICTED YOURSELF" moment, so what? You're going to get contradictions left and right if you keep asking loaded questions and keep shoe-horning your assumptions into your own narrative.

Are you misunderstanding this on purpose? I DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR MISTAKE REGARDING WHICH GAME TO LOOK AT OR WHICH SITE. I never did.
I CARE ABOUT YOU BASING YOUR READ ON ME ON A GAME YOU DID NOT READ.
Is this really that hard to understand?


See #2: I read iamperfection's game.

Not remembering which game I saw your 24 page filter off of the top of my head in rapidfire questioning =/= not having read the game.

You have a shockingly little amount of imagination.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 23 2014 22:36 GMT
#1474
On August 24 2014 07:35 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 07:30 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 24 2014 06:41 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 24 2014 06:19 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 24 2014 06:12 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 24 2014 06:11 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 24 2014 06:09 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 24 2014 06:08 Hapahauli wrote:
I confused "championship" game with the ones run on 2p2. That's pretty much it. That wasn't clear from my posts?

Yes, it was. But it shows that you have no idea about that game.


No, it means that I didn't immediately associate "championship" with the TL game.

Again, where is this going?

You are basing your read on me on a game you didn't even read anything of. You made a conclusion about my play off of a random number of pages I had in that game.


No. Let me break it down for you:

1) "Championship" game commonly refers to the series run on 2p2. I had read all those games months ago.
2) I had read iamperfection's game sometime while it was going on.
3) When you mentioned "championship game", I immediately thought of the 2p2 series as opposed to iamperfection's game.
4) Hence it is possible for me to associate "championship" with another game series, while having read the game you played in.

Though again, why this line of questioning as opposed to talking about my cases, reads, etc? It's just stupid and pedantic. Even if you had an "AH HA, GOTCHA, CONTRADICTED YOURSELF" moment, so what? You're going to get contradictions left and right if you keep asking loaded questions and keep shoe-horning your assumptions into your own narrative.

Are you misunderstanding this on purpose? I DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR MISTAKE REGARDING WHICH GAME TO LOOK AT OR WHICH SITE. I never did.
I CARE ABOUT YOU BASING YOUR READ ON ME ON A GAME YOU DID NOT READ.
Is this really that hard to understand?


See #2: I read iamperfection's game.

Not remembering which game I saw your 24 page filter off of the top of my head in rapidfire questioning =/= not having read the game.

You have a shockingly little amount of imagination.

You did not read iamperfections game because that is the game I had the 24 page filter. What the hell?


What you wrote actually doesn't make sense.

Sense = 0
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 23 2014 22:40 GMT
#1478
On August 24 2014 07:38 justanothertownie wrote:
Wait you claim to have read it now but earlier you claimed that you only knew about my filter because of what xatalos said. This doesn't make any sense at all.


I want you to go back to that post and quote it for me.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 23 2014 22:42 GMT
#1481
On August 24 2014 07:41 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 07:40 Xatalos wrote:
On August 24 2014 07:35 KelsierSC wrote:
I really don't like what Xata has done here.

Yamato was his town read for a long time. But now he goes full against him being scum. Yeh I agree but it just seems such a big switch.

Considering Xat said he still has Hapa as town and still has rayn as leaning scummy how can be against someone who had all the same reads as him.

I think Yam is mafia here for sure but Xat is just bussing him to get some credibility.


If you think so then vote yamato. Doesn't matter to me if you think I'm bussing.


I want you to explain your logic.

You are now sure yamata is mafia but you are pretty sure rayn is scum and hapa is still town.

So how can you be sure yam is mafia if you are sure rayn is mafia considering yam went hard against rayn.

you have no logical consistency, this is the only consistent aspect of your play.


If you are sure Yamato is mafia, can we lynch yamato, then have this discussion during night-phase?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 23 2014 22:42 GMT
#1482
On August 24 2014 07:41 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 07:40 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 24 2014 07:38 justanothertownie wrote:
Wait you claim to have read it now but earlier you claimed that you only knew about my filter because of what xatalos said. This doesn't make any sense at all.


I want you to go back to that post and quote it for me.

Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 06:06 Hapahauli wrote:
The information had been brought up by someone in the thread already (the 24 page game, even if I knew it existed before), and it's a question that I'm going to have no trouble answering regardless of my alignment. Nor is the answer really going to say anything about my alignment either.



Good job JAT!

Now I want you to translate exactly what it says step by step.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 23 2014 22:46 GMT
#1488
On August 24 2014 07:44 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 07:42 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 24 2014 07:41 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 24 2014 07:40 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 24 2014 07:38 justanothertownie wrote:
Wait you claim to have read it now but earlier you claimed that you only knew about my filter because of what xatalos said. This doesn't make any sense at all.


I want you to go back to that post and quote it for me.

On August 24 2014 06:06 Hapahauli wrote:
The information had been brought up by someone in the thread already (the 24 page game, even if I knew it existed before), and it's a question that I'm going to have no trouble answering regardless of my alignment. Nor is the answer really going to say anything about my alignment either.



Good job JAT!

Now I want you to translate exactly what it says step by step.

Ah, goddamn it I misread something. Still it seemed to me very much like you did not read the game at all earlier.


Well it seems to me that I actually read the game and indicated so in that post I made.

We seem to be at an impasse.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 23 2014 22:57 GMT
#1504
Kelsier - this entire line of questioning and suspicion on Xata is based around Yamato being mafia. It seems to me pretty clear where your vote should be.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 23 2014 23:03 GMT
#1507
And this Xatalos stuff makes me think that none of you have ever seen him play mafia.

Dessert Mini Mafia for example:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/392955-dessert-mini-mafia?user=Xatalos

He's focused. He's pushing clear cases. Pretty aggressive.

I just skimmed Titanic II and got almost the same impression.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/436388-ii-titanic-mini-mafia?user=Xatalos&page=3

Look how many people he votes early on. Look at him build cases, push aggressive opinions.

Point is, all the stuff that you're "expecting" from town-Xatalos is completely false. That's actually more in line with his mafia persona.

Xatalos as town posts every damn thing that comes to his mind. Everything. All the wishy-washy stuff, all the undeveloped reads, all the everything. And with that comes a shitton of contradictions and lack of logical progression, because the stream of consciousness of someone's mind is borderline incoherent.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 23 2014 23:04 GMT
#1508
On August 24 2014 08:01 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 00:19 IAmRobik wrote:
Wait, what?!?! Why aren't hapa and Yamato voting for rayn. They're sooooooo fucking convinced he's scum. Did something change since pg 40?

And then he disappeared forever.
Hapa, how about an opinion on Robik? You don't even have to read that much.


Why the fuck are we talking about players that aren't up on the block? Fuck robik. He's null as fuck, and he's actually probably town because of the "I'm town" shit that he's doing.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 23 2014 23:09 GMT
#1512
On August 24 2014 08:06 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 08:04 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 24 2014 08:01 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 24 2014 00:19 IAmRobik wrote:
Wait, what?!?! Why aren't hapa and Yamato voting for rayn. They're sooooooo fucking convinced he's scum. Did something change since pg 40?

And then he disappeared forever.
Hapa, how about an opinion on Robik? You don't even have to read that much.


Why the fuck are we talking about players that aren't up on the block? Fuck robik. He's null as fuck, and he's actually probably town because of the "I'm town" shit that he's doing.

Ok, who is up on the block? You and yamato? There is a limited amount of stuff that you can say about yamato and the best thing to figure you out is to make you give reads.


My priority is to get Yamato lynched, and Xatalos not lynched. I'm not going to accomplish this by putting up with the useless questions you ask me. I already wasted 3 hours of my life responding to something you misread in my filter. I've responded to you plenty.

Now it's your turn to get an opinion of something, push a read, and do anything other than asking me useless questions. If that means you vote me, go right ahead, this is a waste of my time.

You have a brain. Use it.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 23 2014 23:11 GMT
#1514
On August 24 2014 08:10 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 08:09 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 24 2014 08:06 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 24 2014 08:04 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 24 2014 08:01 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 24 2014 00:19 IAmRobik wrote:
Wait, what?!?! Why aren't hapa and Yamato voting for rayn. They're sooooooo fucking convinced he's scum. Did something change since pg 40?

And then he disappeared forever.
Hapa, how about an opinion on Robik? You don't even have to read that much.


Why the fuck are we talking about players that aren't up on the block? Fuck robik. He's null as fuck, and he's actually probably town because of the "I'm town" shit that he's doing.

Ok, who is up on the block? You and yamato? There is a limited amount of stuff that you can say about yamato and the best thing to figure you out is to make you give reads.


My priority is to get Yamato lynched, and Xatalos not lynched. I'm not going to accomplish this by putting up with the useless questions you ask me. I already wasted 3 hours of my life responding to something you misread in my filter. I've responded to you plenty.

Now it's your turn to get an opinion of something, push a read, and do anything other than asking me useless questions. If that means you vote me, go right ahead, this is a waste of my time.

You have a brain. Use it.

Everything I do is to get an opinion. I fail to see how it hurts you to give reads.


Your idea of information gathering is to beat someone to death with a spoon.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 23 2014 23:15 GMT
#1518
On August 24 2014 08:12 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 08:11 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 24 2014 08:10 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 24 2014 08:09 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 24 2014 08:06 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 24 2014 08:04 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 24 2014 08:01 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 24 2014 00:19 IAmRobik wrote:
Wait, what?!?! Why aren't hapa and Yamato voting for rayn. They're sooooooo fucking convinced he's scum. Did something change since pg 40?

And then he disappeared forever.
Hapa, how about an opinion on Robik? You don't even have to read that much.


Why the fuck are we talking about players that aren't up on the block? Fuck robik. He's null as fuck, and he's actually probably town because of the "I'm town" shit that he's doing.

Ok, who is up on the block? You and yamato? There is a limited amount of stuff that you can say about yamato and the best thing to figure you out is to make you give reads.


My priority is to get Yamato lynched, and Xatalos not lynched. I'm not going to accomplish this by putting up with the useless questions you ask me. I already wasted 3 hours of my life responding to something you misread in my filter. I've responded to you plenty.

Now it's your turn to get an opinion of something, push a read, and do anything other than asking me useless questions. If that means you vote me, go right ahead, this is a waste of my time.

You have a brain. Use it.

Everything I do is to get an opinion. I fail to see how it hurts you to give reads.


Your idea of information gathering is to beat someone to death with a spoon.

No it's not. I went hard on you earlier because I misunderstood something. Asking for reads is not beating with a spoon.


I. am. not. answering. your. questions. anymore.

You're going to talk to me about why Xatalos is town, why Yamato is mafia, and why you're about to vote Yamato.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 23 2014 23:17 GMT
#1521
On August 24 2014 08:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
I want Rayn to come back and talk about hapa.


no plz
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