EPTOn August 21 2014 01:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I ma joining whenever Hapa joins the game. HAPA IT'S YOUR MOVE! ^^
I ma joining whenever Hapa joins the game. HAPA IT'S YOUR MOVE! ^^
Sigh.
/in
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On August 22 2014 02:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: fuck this playerlist is so cool! i am exited. i hope Hapa rolls mafia.  *except with me* What... am I fun to lynch or something? >> | ||
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On August 22 2014 08:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: People playing that game are awful. Not in this game. Not in this game. rip | ||
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##Vote Raynpelikoneet His play has been remarkably unmemorable and unfocused. After I read this game the first time through a few hours ago, I couldn't remember anything that he had posted... unheard of for a town Rayn. As for the unfocused, this is the best example: On August 22 2014 23:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why is noone calling yamato mafia? On August 22 2014 23:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: What he said after that didn't really look like "YAY LET'S SOLVE THE GAME RIGHT HERE!"....... This is the scummiest thing I've seen in the thread. He just throws out "why is no one calling yamato mafia?" in the middle of a discussion, and drops some suspicion. What's notable about this is that
On August 22 2014 23:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: Maybe GlowingBear is mafia because his posts are quite weird and do not follow any sort of logic. I gotta reread him tonight. tl;dr Rayn's play lacks a focus that I'd expect from a town Rayn. And this yamato stuff is icing on the cake - he just sort of throws out suspicions hoping someone will bite, and when no one did, he didn't follow up on it at all. | ||
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On August 23 2014 04:53 justanothertownie wrote: Ok. Opinions on the other players? Howabout you talk about my case and your thoughts on Rayn? Town's goal is to find mafia and lynch them, not extrapolate wildly about "semi-town reads" and whatnot. | ||
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Xatalos makes super-awkward posts (like the "list-post") a lot as town, because he posts in a "stream of consciousness." What comes out isn't always coherent, and I feel a lot of the suspicion on him nitpicks these posts as opposed to understanding that he's posting the first thing that comes to his mind. | ||
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On August 23 2014 04:57 justanothertownie wrote: Town's goal is also to identify the other townies as town and I can't get a read on you if you only comment on one specific thing. I agree that it is weird how rayn dropped the yamato issue but on the other hand what is he supposed to do as long as yamato is absent? I care less that he dropped the Yamato issue and more about the timing and wording of how he brought it up. On August 22 2014 23:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why is noone calling yamato mafia? This quote makes no sense from a town perspective. As a townie, why would you be concerned about who else is calling yamato mafia if it's not even clear that you are suspicious of him? | ||
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On August 23 2014 05:02 justanothertownie wrote: So Hapa I will be honest with you. The last game I remember you playing is the shadow game and I will hold you to your level of play there. You were conversational, asked questions and tried to figure the game out. I don't see this yet. You seem to be eager to give out criticism and less so to give out substantial opinions. What gives? | ||
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On August 23 2014 05:04 justanothertownie wrote: I think that post indicates that rayn is suspicious of him pretty heavily?! Nonsense. "I think <x> player is suspicious for <y> reasons" is a town train of thought. If you read that quote, he's not saying that at all. He's asking OTHERS if they're suspicious of yamato. And the context of the quote doesn't do Rayn many favors. Consider how quickly he changed topics. He made two posts on Yamato, then promply about-faced to talk about pretty irrelevant topics. Start here in his filter... http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/465098-guilty-mini-mafia?page=20#390 ...where he immediately starts talking about Xatalos, Wave, then Damdred, then finally settles on GlowingBear 4 posts later, This is not pushing suspicions - this is throwing around shit until it sticks somewhere. Hell, not once in his filter does he call yamato mafia, or even suspicious. This is the closest Rayn gets to calling Yamato mafia: On August 22 2014 23:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: Hapahauli - a player in this game. yamato is really easy to read because he cannot mirror his townplay as scum. I thought he was town early on because i saw stuff that reminds me of his townplay but then he asked me to solve the game with him and did jack shit after that.It is weird. "Weird." Just weird. | ||
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On August 23 2014 05:54 VayneAuthority wrote: I don't understand hapa's entrance. its meant to make a big splash so to speak even in the word choice. But in the end its just covering up an awful case on a player that we aren't going to lynch day 1. What is your gameplan here? I'm trying to lynch mafia. Is that your gameplan as well? On August 23 2014 06:00 yamato77 wrote: Hapa picked up on the EXACT thing I picked up on. Lol, good shit. I want to lynch one of rayn/wave/vayne Vayne is vayne. I really don't see how someone could lean on his alignment one way or the other. I wouldn't be opposed to vig shotting him though. As for Wave, I think he's town. There's a lot of "I just wanna have fun" stuff in his filter that strikes me as more of his town persona. Not 100% obviously, but would not lynch today. On August 23 2014 06:07 justanothertownie wrote: The only good thing about the case is the observation that rayn is pretty aimless and I don't know if that makes him scummy. Aimless does make Rayn scummy. He's not pushing any objectives. He's just talking about things to blend in. There's no method, no focus, no... madness that I expect from a town Rayn. | ||
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On August 23 2014 06:17 justanothertownie wrote: But the scumrayn I know is not aimless at all. Look at foundation mafia. He was pushing mislynches like a fucking lunatic. That's not really what I'm getting at. A town rayn is going to post that stuff about Yamato and push him "like a fucking lunatic." Because town rayn formulates suspicions, keeps his focus, and pushes them relentlessly... all because he believes he's correct. A scum rayn's focus is very different. He'll definetely push suspicions, but what's more important is what he doesn't push. It is the fact that he'll mention a read and drop it, only to go after lynchbait. His focus is wider, more diluted, and he'll throw a lot of shit around until he finds that one thing that sticks and go all out on it. Town rayn = "find mafia, lynch mafia, fuck you I'm right lynch this fucker right here." Scum rayn = "Lets talk about this, oh is this guy suspicious, howabout this guy, or this guy? Oh this seems interesting, YEAH let's push him! Fuck you OMGUSOMGUS!" | ||
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Because I disagree with his reads obviously. =/ | ||
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On August 23 2014 06:40 justanothertownie wrote: Why particularly yamato? Is he particularly town? Do you want to find out about his alignment in particular? I already posted a few things on damdred -> it's in my filter. Why don't you enlighten us with your own thoughts? I'm not sure. That's why I kinda wanted to get some opinions on it. I mentioned Yamato in particular because of this post: On August 23 2014 06:01 yamato77 wrote: xat/kels/damdred/gb all likely town robik being robik turtlevine is apparently confirmed to gb, so he's town lolol ez game ez lyfe ...where he puts damdred pretty much next to every other strong town read I have in this game. | ||
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He's extremely direct/blunt about his opinions, never skirts around an issue, and overall has a clear and consistent approach to his reads (even though I disagree with some). | ||
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But if it gets you to actually defend yourself, I can oblige. | ||
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On August 23 2014 06:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: This is so fucking bad. I said "i want Hapa to comment on this". I changed my read on Wave -> means i do not want you to comment on it any more because it does not make any sense. You say -> "WOW THIS SO BAD!" For the record, I did post my thoughts on wave last page. dude you so scum. you do not do this as town. you actually do know when pushes/questioning ends and you do not push retarded shit like this. YOU JUST DO NOT. you are mafia. I wasn't aware that the process of pushing/questioning players had to end before the player I'm pushing enters the thread. Who wouldda thought. | ||
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