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onevone
Profile Joined August 2014
218 Posts
August 11 2014 13:41 GMT
#161
On August 11 2014 22:34 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 22:26 onevone wrote:
On August 11 2014 22:20 Koshi wrote:
Double posting is against the rules.


On August 11 2014 21:53 HaruRH wrote:
Oh no my bear went to quit this game for the newbie game. Now I am left defenseless against the onslaught of treachery. Koshi, i command you to save me

Post more stuff. As you can see this game is slow as fuck. Post more stuff. Tell us about your life. No hiding behind people if there is nothing to talk about in the thread. I cannot let you hide behind me if I can't shoot on anybody else.


On August 11 2014 22:02 onevone wrote:
On August 11 2014 21:48 Koshi wrote:
On August 11 2014 21:27 onevone wrote:
You still here Koshi?

On August 11 2014 21:28 onevone wrote:
Oh, I guess not. Unless you've been waiting for hours

Ofc I am still here. I watched the thread view count go up from 2065 to 2135 before anybody replied.

I am close to lynching rayn.


Close to lynching rayn? Based on his somewhat useless commentary so far?

No. Because I was all alone in this thread and rayn didn't talk to me. And it was likely him and Kush and probably some evul cohost roaming the thread.


On August 11 2014 22:16 kushm4sta wrote:
classic scum move:

"Anybody here? Guess not
k bye"

Yes. I like this.
There was no reason for onevone to not ask his question when he had one for me.


Well, I don't think it's a good idea to lynch rayn D1 anyway.

What does your last sentence mean?

It means that you made 2 completely useless posts. These 2 posts don't serve any purpose. Why would a townie make these 2 posts? I don't know. Why would a scummer make these posts. Because scummers scum.
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 21:27 onevone wrote:
You still here Koshi?

Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 21:28 onevone wrote:
Oh, I guess not. Unless you've been waiting for hours

The second post was made by you because you realized that there were a couple hours passed since I made the last post.

But why did you not simply ask me what you wanted to ask me instead of asking "are you still here". Did it matter that I had to react to your post instantly?
Also, you clearly are a smurf. So you know that I am always around.


I didn't have anything to ask *you specifically*. I just thought that you were the only one around since you kept complaining that nobody else was around, so I asked if you still were around. How does this make me scummy anyhow? I just don't get these reactions. If you think that 2 "fluffy" posts make me scummy then I don't know what to say.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 11 2014 13:48 GMT
#162
So let's go through your post:
1) read on Mages. You gave him a townread without actually saying you think he is town and instead worded it another way around which kinda makes me think you don't want to call him town for some reason.
2) read on MM1. weak read and there is nothing scummy MM1 has said so far. In fact i don't even believe you think MM1 is mafia because you end the sentence with "He is the best vote so far".
3) null read on Koshi - why?
4) null read on VE - why?

So you did not really have any opinions on anything except for the read on MM1 which i strongly disagree with. There has been a lot of talk, for example VE is voting for your scumread and you read him null, which doesn't make any sense because he said mostly the same stuff you said about MM1. You don't talk about kush at all - while kush is one of high volume posters so far. I find it REALLY difficult to think that as town - you would have "more" to say on VE & Koshi than you would on kush.
table for two on a tv tray
onevone
Profile Joined August 2014
218 Posts
August 11 2014 13:52 GMT
#163
On August 11 2014 22:40 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 21:56 onevone wrote:
2) MysteryMeat1

Also opened the game by downplaying himself ("I'm trash at forum mafia" etc.). This time added with fluff about Avatar and such. A couple of players see that as a scummy opening and vote for him, and I think it was probably the best target for a pressure vote this early on.

After the votes on him, he comes back with a big case on VE (one of the voters) that isn't really saying much. He also says something like "the lynch is between me and VE now". I think he overreacts to the votes and combined with his self-trashing opening, it isn't a bad vote for now.

##Vote MysteryMeat1

onevone,
Can you type more words about the 2 bolded segments. Proof it.


On August 11 2014 07:56 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Ya i really liked the original Avatar, but thought the first season of korra was pretty meh.

I swear that asami looks like wonder woman though...


"Proof" (Btw nothing particularly scummy about the fact that he posted about Avatar, it was just a note that he didn't only trash himself in his first posts.)

The VE case didn't really say much because it didn't anyhow convince me that VE is scum. The first point about VE's opening post is just... nothing. The second point doesn't really do anything to make VE scum either. The third point could be possibly scummy(?), but I can't know because it's a subjective meta reason that is uncertain at best... Nothing worth calling VE as a scumread at least...
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 11 2014 13:57 GMT
#164
On August 11 2014 07:49 Koshi wrote:
Jeez, was just trying to get the game started.

I watched Avatar first storyline when I was still pretty young. That brother of the water bender girl was so funny. What a boss. Kora stuff I only watched first season, didn't think it was good. Should I watch it?


I am not going to make this game btw. I'll try to post as little fluff as possible. So I need a town hero that spams this thread and makes people do stuff.

Who will be this hero?

Then why is this post not worth scumreading Koshi?
table for two on a tv tray
onevone
Profile Joined August 2014
218 Posts
August 11 2014 14:02 GMT
#165
On August 11 2014 22:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So let's go through your post:
1) read on Mages. You gave him a townread without actually saying you think he is town and instead worded it another way around which kinda makes me think you don't want to call him town for some reason.
2) read on MM1. weak read and there is nothing scummy MM1 has said so far. In fact i don't even believe you think MM1 is mafia because you end the sentence with "He is the best vote so far".
3) null read on Koshi - why?
4) null read on VE - why?

So you did not really have any opinions on anything except for the read on MM1 which i strongly disagree with. There has been a lot of talk, for example VE is voting for your scumread and you read him null, which doesn't make any sense because he said mostly the same stuff you said about MM1. You don't talk about kush at all - while kush is one of high volume posters so far. I find it REALLY difficult to think that as town - you would have "more" to say on VE & Koshi than you would on kush.


1) Well, nobody is 100% town especially this early. He's just more likely town. That's all.
2) It's a weak read, but it's weird to say that he's done nothing scum-motivated. What's the town motivation for trashing your own play at the start and panicking at getting votes? It just seems *more* like a scum trying to avoid attention and then reacting too strongly to getting that attention.
3) Because it's hard to read him well and he's done nothing to make me particularly believe he's town or scum yet.
4) Because he has posted little and hasn't done anything particularly alignment indicative expect maybe making a post about MM1 that resonated with me.

kush: I think he's also a bit hard to read and I didn't write down anything towny/scummy about him yet. Nothing really meaningful anyway.
onevone
Profile Joined August 2014
218 Posts
August 11 2014 14:03 GMT
#166
Stop it rayn.... Now you're just not reading anymore. I never said that posting about Avatar is scummy. In fact the opposite.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
August 11 2014 14:05 GMT
#167
k we still roleplaying and i'm still koshi
"baby take off your pants"
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 11 2014 14:07 GMT
#168
On August 11 2014 23:03 onevone wrote:
Stop it rayn.... Now you're just not reading anymore. I never said that posting about Avatar is scummy. In fact the opposite.

Then what is that part doing in your post?
You made a post with 500 words when you could have said "i think MM1 is scum because he downplays himself - that's scummy."

srsly. And you tell me you are not posting fluff?
table for two on a tv tray
onevone
Profile Joined August 2014
218 Posts
August 11 2014 14:14 GMT
#169
On August 11 2014 23:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 23:03 onevone wrote:
Stop it rayn.... Now you're just not reading anymore. I never said that posting about Avatar is scummy. In fact the opposite.

Then what is that part doing in your post?
You made a post with 500 words when you could have said "i think MM1 is scum because he downplays himself - that's scummy."

srsly. And you tell me you are not posting fluff?


When posting about my early observations, not absolutely every word needs to be focused on points that make someone scum. It's definitely also worthwhile to consider towny points and it's not strictly bad to look at null points (although I guess that sentence was quite useless in the end).
onevone
Profile Joined August 2014
218 Posts
August 11 2014 14:15 GMT
#170
On August 11 2014 23:05 kushm4sta wrote:
k we still roleplaying and i'm still koshi
"baby take off your pants"


:O
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 11 2014 14:16 GMT
#171
On August 11 2014 22:52 onevone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 22:40 Koshi wrote:
On August 11 2014 21:56 onevone wrote:
2) MysteryMeat1

Also opened the game by downplaying himself ("I'm trash at forum mafia" etc.). This time added with fluff about Avatar and such. A couple of players see that as a scummy opening and vote for him, and I think it was probably the best target for a pressure vote this early on.

After the votes on him, he comes back with a big case on VE (one of the voters) that isn't really saying much. He also says something like "the lynch is between me and VE now". I think he overreacts to the votes and combined with his self-trashing opening, it isn't a bad vote for now.

##Vote MysteryMeat1

onevone,
Can you type more words about the 2 bolded segments. Proof it.


Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 07:56 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Ya i really liked the original Avatar, but thought the first season of korra was pretty meh.

I swear that asami looks like wonder woman though...


"Proof" (Btw nothing particularly scummy about the fact that he posted about Avatar, it was just a note that he didn't only trash himself in his first posts.)

The VE case didn't really say much because it didn't anyhow convince me that VE is scum. The first point about VE's opening post is just... nothing. The second point doesn't really do anything to make VE scum either. The third point could be possibly scummy(?), but I can't know because it's a subjective meta reason that is uncertain at best... Nothing worth calling VE as a scumread at least...

How is that "proof". You say this:
This time added with fluff about Avatar and such.

MM1 said the stuff about Avatar when the thread was talking about Avatar. Then MM1 replied to Mages that he as well wasn't very good at Forum mafia.
This time added with fluff about Avatar and such.

You make it look like while MM1 was downplaying his ability to play forum mafia he was adding fluff about Avatar. But the Avatar stuff was posted first. And 45 minutes later MM1 replied to Mages and said he was also inexperienced.


The VE case didn't really say much because it didn't anyhow convince me that VE is scum. The first point about VE's opening post is just... nothing. The second point doesn't really do anything to make VE scum either. The third point could be possibly scummy(?), but I can't know because it's a subjective meta reason that is uncertain at best... Nothing worth calling VE as a scumread at least.

Did you read the case carefully? Let me colour some stuff I like. Tell me why you don't like it.
On August 11 2014 13:04 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
LOL, i go swimming for like 2 hours, and come back to VE and kush voting on me. I don't really know too much about kush's playstyle as mafia, but if VE is the same VE from DM, then i would say that he is probably mafia. Maybe this seems OMGUSING but i don't think i've liked a single one of his posts.

Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 10:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
Checking in. I'm town. Need more posters, not comfortable giving out townreads just yet.


At first this post didn't really bother me, it seemed like he was just trying to show some town paranoia


Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 11:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
On August 11 2014 10:45 Mages wrote:
I can't help but feel I'm at a disadvantage still, people already stating townreads, all I'm seeing is introductory day 1 posting, course where im from this is a lot more than what i'm used to granted, but i will learn your ways. Is it considered a red herring for someone to so blatantly declare that they're town?

Don't be afraid to put people in a "townpile" early, just so long as you're comfortable moving them out again if they give you reason to. I'd be suspicious of anyone claiming a hard, solid townread on anyone this early, but people stating early or light townreads on others is pretty common and expected.

Me claiming town is pretty much just a tradition - I'd do it as either alignment, so it's not really indicative one way or the other.


VE tells mages not to be afriad to put people in a town pile, but in his earlier posts ignores the discussion on Koshi and if his posts seems to be town. This gives me a slight red flag, and makes me think his first post is him trying to keep his options open so that he can either A) start a band wagon or B) join a band wagon.

Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 11:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
I think MysteryMeat is scum. GET REKT SON NEEEEXT


While this posts calls me scum, its the part that he puts in all caps. VE in video mafia, in the games that i've seen him only gets excited when he rolls scum. He also posts this an hour and a half later, followed by a paraphrasing cause he's too lazy to go back one page to quote me. Even then if he's soo certain im mafia, why does he have to wait for kush to vote for me?

I like all the green stuff. It is not bad at all and seems to come from a townie mindset.


About the red stuff. Explain to me what exactly you mean with it.
This time added with fluff about Avatar and such.

This looks like you twisting posts the way scummers like to do. Lieing and deceiving.
I had a good night of sleep.
onevone
Profile Joined August 2014
218 Posts
August 11 2014 14:20 GMT
#172
You're wrong to color that line red. It was just a null point separating MM1's early play from Mages (in addition to Mages' active contribution to the discussion).
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 11 2014 14:21 GMT
#173
On August 11 2014 23:14 onevone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 23:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 11 2014 23:03 onevone wrote:
Stop it rayn.... Now you're just not reading anymore. I never said that posting about Avatar is scummy. In fact the opposite.

Then what is that part doing in your post?
You made a post with 500 words when you could have said "i think MM1 is scum because he downplays himself - that's scummy."

srsly. And you tell me you are not posting fluff?


When posting about my early observations, not absolutely every word needs to be focused on points that make someone scum. It's definitely also worthwhile to consider towny points and it's not strictly bad to look at null points (although I guess that sentence was quite useless in the end).

Well i am not going to argue you about this any more but you didn't really give any townie points to anyone because it was "maybe, or, if kinda stuff" and tho only conclusion you had is that MM1 is mafia - which was already a wagon somewhat rolling and MM1 is one of the easiest people to attack because people do not read why people say stuff they do instead of just "what".

There is no reason to say "i don't have a read on anyone else so far". There is even less reason to say "i think this guy and this guy are null FOR THESE REASONS" and not say anything else....
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Mages
Profile Joined August 2014
96 Posts
August 11 2014 14:23 GMT
#174
Has TheKingOfTheCats Posted at all? (And is there an expedient way to see if he has been online or anything like a comment tracker here or seeing if he's posted in this thread specifically?)
I, Magus.
Mages
Profile Joined August 2014
96 Posts
August 11 2014 14:23 GMT
#175
Obviously I've searched the thread but didn't see anything, granted im on my 2nd cup of coffee and the newborns crying, so i may be moderately distracted.
I, Magus.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 11 2014 14:24 GMT
#176
On August 11 2014 23:20 onevone wrote:
You're wrong to color that line red. It was just a null point separating MM1's early play from Mages (in addition to Mages' active contribution to the discussion).

Why is it scummy that MM1 talked with Koshi & Damdred about Avatar when we were talking about Avatar.

Why is it scummy that when Mages posted about being afraid to post because he is new that MM1 said that Mages didn't need to be afraid to post because there were others just like Mages who are pretty new to forum mafia. Why is comforting people scummy?
On August 11 2014 08:48 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
hahah, don't worry about it Mages. I'm decent at video mafia, but im super trash at forum mafia. You'll see later that my cases probably need some work, so i'll be trying to focus on improving my accusations. I'm pretty extroverted, and i play a ton of sports. ATM it's summer vacation so its pretty much just work and studying for my classes in the fall. The 3 that i'm taking are all important to get into my major. I start school in a month and a half and i'm training for a tough mudder as well!





I am calling this now:

Mysterymeat1 is TOWN

I put money on it. Going against this is going against me.
I had a good night of sleep.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 11 2014 14:24 GMT
#177
If you go to the first page of the thread on the player list mages just click on the name and you will be taken to his filter for this thread
onevone
Profile Joined August 2014
218 Posts
August 11 2014 14:25 GMT
#178
The *case* isn't really scummy in itself, no. It just didn't feel good to have a big push on VE based on very weak / subjective reasons immediately after he was voted by VE. It felt like an OMGUS / panic reaction that scum might make in his situation.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 11 2014 14:25 GMT
#179
On August 11 2014 23:20 onevone wrote:
You're wrong to color that line red. It was just a null point separating MM1's early play from Mages (in addition to Mages' active contribution to the discussion).


Why is it wrong for him to color that line red when you put that in your scum post about him?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 11 2014 14:26 GMT
#180
On August 11 2014 23:23 Mages wrote:
Has TheKingOfTheCats Posted at all? (And is there an expedient way to see if he has been online or anything like a comment tracker here or seeing if he's posted in this thread specifically?)

On August 11 2014 23:23 Mages wrote:
Obviously I've searched the thread but didn't see anything, granted im on my 2nd cup of coffee and the newborns crying, so i may be moderately distracted.

Double posting is against the rules in this game.

On the first page you see this:
On August 08 2014 02:50 slOosh wrote:
Player List


  • 1. raynpelikoneet
  • 2. VisceraEyes
  • 3. MysteryMeat1
  • 4. Damdred
  • 5. onevone
  • 6. kushm4sta
  • 7. TheKingOfTheCats
  • 8. Mages
  • 9. Koshi
  • 10. batsnacks
  • 11. Sn0_Man
  • 12. Onegu
  • 13. HaruRH


Cool cats: Oatsmaster

Click on the links to see people their filter.


PS: please try to give us some townreads/scumreads. I prefer scumreads but if you are lost some townreads with new information are also fine.
I had a good night of sleep.
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