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goodkarma
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1067 Posts
August 06 2014 03:49 GMT
#1641
On August 06 2014 12:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2014 12:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 06 2014 11:58 goodkarma wrote:
On August 06 2014 11:50 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 06 2014 11:48 goodkarma wrote:
Vivax flip is super-frustrating. Regroup and do better tomorrow.

Except if it wasn't Vivax, it would have been Haru, who you currently townread I believe?
What would you have done?


It's pretty obvious I wouldn't be voting my townread, if that's what you're asking... What exactly are you asking?

Never mind I misread and didn't pay attention to who you voted for. I thought you were super frustrated at the Vivax switch.

In any case, who is next for you then, GK?
This is all the time I've got to talk until tomorrow evening so let's try and have a discussion?


I honestly don't know. I'll be rereading everyone's filters tomorrow, assuming I'm alive. If you have someone specific in mind you'd like to bring up feel free to. But I'm taking a bit of a break today there's other stuff I'd like to get done and we can't exactly night lynch people anyway.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 06 2014 03:51 GMT
#1642
On August 06 2014 06:00 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Yeah I don't really want to waste time doing that right now. I'll do it after lynch.

I need a minute to think.

Cav, what was this in reference to?

Also, you do a lot of complaining around lynch time.
On August 06 2014 06:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2014 06:11 Holyflare wrote:
Really vivax is looking a lot like the vivax from when i smurfed and he was defending someone that others thought was scummy. He really didn't comment on haru at all and still attacks haru's aggressors instead. He is also stuck in his time warp of lies making reads on things THAT DON'T EXIST


At this point it's borderline impossible for Vivax to even be lynched, so you should probably decide between gd and haru instead.

I'm kind of leaning towards gd at this point but I'm not sure.

On August 06 2014 06:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I remember Haru had me as scum for similar reasons in Titanic.

Like I know his day 1 shit is incredibly asinine sometimes and it's the only thing stopping me from hammering him right now.

On August 06 2014 07:00 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Well my vote doesn't matter anymore, and I don't even feel like this is a great lynch.

On August 06 2014 07:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2014 07:13 Holyflare wrote:
I'm not at a computer to make a case and we definitely can't get 7 but I'm feeling really fucking paranoid of haru lynch


As am I.

I just looked back over GD's filter and I'm back to not remembering why I scumread him.

I think today is just a miss in general.


You know who complains about lynch targets without ever offering a proper opinion or direction?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 06 2014 03:59 GMT
#1643
On August 06 2014 12:51 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2014 06:00 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Yeah I don't really want to waste time doing that right now. I'll do it after lynch.

I need a minute to think.

Cav, what was this in reference to?

Also, you do a lot of complaining around lynch time.
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2014 06:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 06 2014 06:11 Holyflare wrote:
Really vivax is looking a lot like the vivax from when i smurfed and he was defending someone that others thought was scummy. He really didn't comment on haru at all and still attacks haru's aggressors instead. He is also stuck in his time warp of lies making reads on things THAT DON'T EXIST


At this point it's borderline impossible for Vivax to even be lynched, so you should probably decide between gd and haru instead.

I'm kind of leaning towards gd at this point but I'm not sure.

Show nested quote +
On August 06 2014 06:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I remember Haru had me as scum for similar reasons in Titanic.

Like I know his day 1 shit is incredibly asinine sometimes and it's the only thing stopping me from hammering him right now.

Show nested quote +
On August 06 2014 07:00 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Well my vote doesn't matter anymore, and I don't even feel like this is a great lynch.

Show nested quote +
On August 06 2014 07:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 06 2014 07:13 Holyflare wrote:
I'm not at a computer to make a case and we definitely can't get 7 but I'm feeling really fucking paranoid of haru lynch


As am I.

I just looked back over GD's filter and I'm back to not remembering why I scumread him.

I think today is just a miss in general.


You know who complains about lynch targets without ever offering a proper opinion or direction?


Marv was asking me to filter dive Vivax, and I was like, "nah, the lynch should be between these two people and Vivax isn't getting lynched today."

And then he got lynched.

Also, I offered some direction during lynch:

I'm not flipping. No more flipping for me.

We need to pick between Haru/GD and I refuse to consider Vivax until after lynch. Seriously, bandwagon flips are 100% guaranteed to kill town so we need to stop this switch right goddamn now.


Just because I had problems picking between the first two targets doesn't mean I didn't have direction. I just couldn't make up my mind, and then town went and just fucking flipped because they thought Vivax was being an asshole.
Retired.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 06 2014 04:00 GMT
#1644
Why did you think Vivax wouldn't get lynched?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 06 2014 04:08 GMT
#1645
Because I was certain that a mass voteswitch would be unfeasible.

Apparently it actually happened and he died. I warned everyone not to but I couldn't override anything. Blegh.
Retired.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 06 2014 04:14 GMT
#1646
Well 'the lady doth protest too much' method doesn't have Eden convinced, at the very least.
I can't decide if what you're saying is truthful or you took a gamble on Vivax not happening and lost.
Actually wait a minute as scum you win with that either way, it's not really much of a gamble at all, is it?

Looking over your filter Cav I actually like some of what you had going on in little bits in between but the deadline stuff just doesn't look great, nor do your refusals to interact with people at random intervals.

Eden you never answered me as to why you think marv looks worse.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 06 2014 04:28 GMT
#1647
On August 06 2014 13:14 WaveofShadow wrote:
Well 'the lady doth protest too much' method doesn't have Eden convinced, at the very least.
I can't decide if what you're saying is truthful or you took a gamble on Vivax not happening and lost.
Actually wait a minute as scum you win with that either way, it's not really much of a gamble at all, is it?

Looking over your filter Cav I actually like some of what you had going on in little bits in between but the deadline stuff just doesn't look great, nor do your refusals to interact with people at random intervals.

Eden you never answered me as to why you think marv looks worse.


I don't understand the Vivax gamble thing at all. He was town, so what is there to gamble? I think this needs to be explained to me more. There are still two lynch targets who are complete question marks that we didn't go after because we didn't like the way someone was acting.

Also, I don't really care what Eden thinks of me because his scumread is basically a storyline that makes no sense when you look at my filter. Too bad it's not even alignment indicative because I've seen him do it as town. -.-;

I'm super paranoid of Marv and Holyflare as well, though. Both of them had flat-out awful reasons for going after Vivax.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 06 2014 04:32 GMT
#1648
Lol, I just realized you changed your mind on the gamble thing mid-post.

Herpy derp.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 06 2014 04:33 GMT
#1649
Wave, what's your read on me right now?
Retired.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 06 2014 04:38 GMT
#1650
On August 06 2014 13:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2014 13:14 WaveofShadow wrote:
Well 'the lady doth protest too much' method doesn't have Eden convinced, at the very least.
I can't decide if what you're saying is truthful or you took a gamble on Vivax not happening and lost.
Actually wait a minute as scum you win with that either way, it's not really much of a gamble at all, is it?

Looking over your filter Cav I actually like some of what you had going on in little bits in between but the deadline stuff just doesn't look great, nor do your refusals to interact with people at random intervals.

Eden you never answered me as to why you think marv looks worse.


I don't understand the Vivax gamble thing at all. He was town, so what is there to gamble? I think this needs to be explained to me more. There are still two lynch targets who are complete question marks that we didn't go after because we didn't like the way someone was acting.

Also, I don't really care what Eden thinks of me because his scumread is basically a storyline that makes no sense when you look at my filter. Too bad it's not even alignment indicative because I've seen him do it as town. -.-;

I'm super paranoid of Marv and Holyflare as well, though. Both of them had flat-out awful reasons for going after Vivax.

Calling it a gamble really doesn't make sense at all, it's much simpler than that. I think I have been overthinking it and am coming around to what Eden was saying a little more. Very easy for scum in your position to protest the Vivax lynch or at the very least say you don't want to look into him because if he DOES get lynched then in theory you look good for being in the 'right,' and you don't have to do any looking into him at all. If he doesn't get lynched the outcome is slightly worse (maybe therein is the gamble...I suppose it would be more like you 'won' the gamble instead) but you gain an ally in Vivax maybe?

Maybe you planned on how it turned out? I dunno...I gotta leave this alone for a while and come back to it to see what makes the most sense. I think were I in that position as scum I would have taken a stance earlier and let the chips fall where they may.

Anyway as for the rest:
'We' was marv. I'm almost certain nobody else lynched Vivax because attitude.

You think marv or HF could be scum hard-pushing Vivax in that way? This interests me. I actually think it is possible one of them *COULD be but it's still pretty doubtful imo.

twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 06 2014 04:40 GMT
#1651
On August 06 2014 13:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Wave, what's your read on me right now?

Still scummy but there's gutfeels in it now interfering and it's not entirely objective? In any case I'd still see Haru swing before you.

I should go back and look at marv's attacks on haru. Those looked pretty ironclad at the time and I'm kind of wondering why he backed off.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 06 2014 04:44 GMT
#1652
Marv is basically 'we' and should be considered 'we' because everyone followed him because fuck it why not.

Also, if you honestly believe I orchestrated a mass voteswitch to Vivax at the last second, despite the fact that I was telling everyone not to, then lol. I seriously wish I was capable of that as mafia.
Retired.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 06 2014 04:53 GMT
#1653
On August 06 2014 13:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Marv is basically 'we' and should be considered 'we' because everyone followed him because fuck it why not.

Also, if you honestly believe I orchestrated a mass voteswitch to Vivax at the last second, despite the fact that I was telling everyone not to, then lol. I seriously wish I was capable of that as mafia.

What?
Where did I say you orchestrated the switch?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 06 2014 04:53 GMT
#1654
Cav can you answer me about marv and HF?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 06 2014 05:08 GMT
#1655
On August 06 2014 13:53 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2014 13:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Marv is basically 'we' and should be considered 'we' because everyone followed him because fuck it why not.

Also, if you honestly believe I orchestrated a mass voteswitch to Vivax at the last second, despite the fact that I was telling everyone not to, then lol. I seriously wish I was capable of that as mafia.

What?
Where did I say you orchestrated the switch?


Very easy for scum in your position to protest the Vivax lynch or at the very least say you don't want to look into him because if he DOES get lynched then in theory you look good for being in the 'right,' and you don't have to do any looking into him at all. If he doesn't get lynched the outcome is slightly worse (maybe therein is the gamble...I suppose it would be more like you 'won' the gamble instead) but you gain an ally in Vivax maybe?

Maybe you planned on how it turned out? I dunno...I gotta leave this alone for a while and come back to it to see what makes the most sense. I think were I in that position as scum I would have taken a stance earlier and let the chips fall where they may.


Right here.

Also, I don't see anything that looks like it needs answering.
Retired.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 06 2014 05:17 GMT
#1656
No I didn't say you orchestrated it, only that you could have predicted the outcome and acted accordingly.

And here:
I'm super paranoid of Marv and Holyflare as well, though. Both of them had flat-out awful reasons for going after Vivax.

And my response:
You think marv or HF could be scum hard-pushing Vivax in that way? This interests me. I actually think it is possible one of them *COULD be but it's still pretty doubtful imo.


I want you to flesh this out.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 06 2014 05:25 GMT
#1657
i could swear i talked about the marv/hf thing. but in-between bouts of restless sleep awaiting poofter's return i could well have dreamt it

i thought the vivax lynch made marv look significantly worse than hf because

pre-edit: lol i did here you go, i just didn't use any names so it didn't make any sense
eh I guess it depends on Haru's flip really so I'm not putting much stock into it, but on balance I think scum are much more likely to follow a move at EOD rather than start one. path of least resistance and all

and I know that can be subverted, hence the "on balance" aspect

basically marv was sitting around watching for someone to sheep almost, reading eod. he seemed lost which is really out-of-character for him imo. i can understand it to an extent, but i didn't really feel like vivax made sense and... i dunno it just looked convenient to hop on hyperconfident holyflare's lynch

i almost never scumread people who drive a new wagon at EOD unless the original wagon flips scum, i'm sure one day someone clever like onceking will burn me for it but until it happens i've literally never seen scum drum up a town bandwagon at eod to counter another town wagon

WITH ALL THAT SAID i'm likely tinfoiling if i seriously consider the idea of either of them being scum right now, i would guess this is a moot question because they get n1'd and n2'd
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 06 2014 05:26 GMT
#1658
On August 06 2014 12:25 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2014 10:55 Eden1892 wrote:
On August 06 2014 08:04 iamperfection wrote:
Night 1


Vivax the Town Member has been lynched

until the day post



Counting of votes:

Artanis[Xp] (0): gobbledydook, marvellosity, marvellosity, marvellosity, Eden1892, HaruRH, kushm4sta, Eden1892, Holyflare
gobbledydook (2): Vivax, Eden1892, Tehpoofter, kushm4sta, ObiWanShinobi, HaruRH
Eden1892 (0): Eden1892
Vivax (8): Eden1892, marvellosity, goodkarma, Holyflare, marvellosity, justanothertownie, Artanis, HaruRH, ObiWanShinobi, Tehpoofter
Tehpoofter (0): Holyflare, goodkarma, gobbledydook
ObiWanShinobi (0): Eden1892, Holyflare, Eden1892, Eden1892
HaruRH (3): gobbledydook, WaveofShadow, Artanis[Xp], marvellosity, gobbledydook, Eden1892, justanothertownie, Eden1892, marvellosity, Eden1892, Tehpoofter
WaveofShadow (0): ObiWanShinobi, kushm4sta, Eden1892, Eden1892, Eden1892
marvellosity (0): Artanis[Xp], Eden1892, Vivax, HaruRH, WaveofShadow, ObiWanShinobi

Not voting (0):
With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.
Deadline is Tuesday, Aug 05 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (in ).


+ Show Spoiler [Vote counter log] +

VOTE: Eden1892 voted Eden1892 (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted Eden1892 (post)
VOTE: Artanis[Xp] voted Marvellosity (marvellosity) (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 voted marvellosity (post)
VOTE: Vivax voted marvellosity (post)
VOTE: HaruRH voted marvellosity (post)
VOTE: WaveofShadow voted marvellosity (post)
VOTE: ObiWanShinobi voted Wave (WaveofShadow) (post)
VOTE: gobbledydook voted HaruRH (post)
VOTE: kushm4sta voted WoS (WaveofShadow) (post)
VOTE: kushm4sta unvoted WaveofShadow (post)
ERROR: kushm4sta voted invalid player gg (post)
VOTE: gobbledydook unvoted HaruRH (post)
VOTE: gobbledydook voted Artanis[XP] (Artanis[Xp]) (post)
VOTE: marvellosity voted Artanis (Artanis[Xp]) (post)
WARNING: marvellosity changed vote without unvote (post)
VOTE: marvellosity unvoted Artanis[Xp] (post)
VOTE: marvellosity voted Artanis[xp] (Artanis[Xp]) (post)
VOTE: marvellosity unvoted Artanis[Xp] (post)
VOTE: marvellosity voted Artanis[xp] (Artanis[Xp]) (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted marvellosity (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 voted WaveofShadow (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted WaveofShadow (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 voted Artanis[Xp] (post)
VOTE: HaruRH unvoted marvellosity (post)
VOTE: HaruRH voted Artanis [xp] (Artanis[Xp]) (post)
WARNING: kushm4sta unvoted without vote (post)
VOTE: kushm4sta voted artanis (Artanis[Xp]) (post)
VOTE: ObiWanShinobi unvoted WaveofShadow (post)
VOTE: ObiWanShinobi voted marv (marvellosity) (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted Artanis[Xp] (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 voted WaveofShadow (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted WaveofShadow (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 voted ObiWanShinobi (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted ObiWanShinobi (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 voted WaveofShadow (post)
VOTE: Holyflare voted obiwanshinobi (ObiWanShinobi) (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted WaveofShadow (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 voted ObiWanShinobi (post)
VOTE: WaveofShadow unvoted marvellosity (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted ObiWanShinobi (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 voted Artanis[Xp] (post)
VOTE: WaveofShadow voted HaruRH (post)
VOTE: Holyflare unvoted ObiWanShinobi (post)
VOTE: Holyflare voted tehpoofter (Tehpoofter) (post)
VOTE: goodkarma voted Tehpoofter (post)
VOTE: Holyflare unvoted Tehpoofter (post)
VOTE: gobbledydook unvoted Artanis[Xp] (post)
VOTE: gobbledydook voted Tehpoofter (post)
ERROR: Tehpoofter voted invalid player Gooblyzilla (post)
VOTE: Holyflare voted artanis[Xp] (Artanis[Xp]) (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted Artanis[Xp] (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 voted Vivax (post)
VOTE: Artanis[Xp] unvoted marvellosity (post)
VOTE: Artanis[Xp] voted HaruRH (post)
VOTE: marvellosity unvoted Artanis[Xp] (post)
VOTE: marvellosity voted HaruRH (post)
VOTE: gobbledydook unvoted Tehpoofter (post)
VOTE: gobbledydook voted HaruRH (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted Vivax (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 voted HaruRH (post)
VOTE: justanothertownie voted HaruRH (post)
VOTE: marvellosity unvoted HaruRH (post)
VOTE: marvellosity voted Vivax (post)
VOTE: Vivax unvoted marvellosity (post)
VOTE: Vivax voted gobbledydook (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted HaruRH (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 voted gobbledydook (post)
VOTE: Tehpoofter voted gobbledydook (post)
VOTE: ObiWanShinobi unvoted marvellosity (post)
VOTE: goodkarma unvoted Tehpoofter (post)
VOTE: goodkarma voted Vivax (post)
VOTE: kushm4sta unvoted Artanis[Xp] (post)
VOTE: kushm4sta voted gobbledydook (post)
VOTE: Holyflare unvoted Artanis[Xp] (post)
VOTE: Holyflare voted vivax (Vivax) (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted gobbledydook (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 voted HaruRH (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted HaruRH (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 voted ObiWanShinobi (post)
VOTE: marvellosity unvoted Vivax (post)
VOTE: marvellosity voted HaruRH (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted ObiWanShinobi (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 voted HaruRH (post)
VOTE: Tehpoofter unvoted gobbledydook (post)
VOTE: Tehpoofter voted Haru (HaruRH) (post)

BRB quitting job so I never miss EOD again

smh why



Its okay Eden we just get goobly tomorrow. That Haru wagon might have been right but that CFD onto vivax was just bad :/

bby dont leave like that.

also do you think we had two scum wagons? that sounds like the implication in your post, which is... interesting, i have to think about what that implies about the vivax cfd
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 06 2014 05:34 GMT
#1659
That second quote doesn't say what you think it does, but I'll flesh it out.

I already told you that Marv went after Vivax because Vivax was being an asshole. I think you and I both agree that that's dumb.

I think the bigger issue is that Holyflare didn't like the fact that Vivax gave him answers about something, he ignored them, and then scumread Vivax for ignoring him. And then Marv agreed with him.

And then everyone is somehow okay with that mislynch because they think Vivax was mean to them.
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August 06 2014 05:37 GMT
#1660
On August 06 2014 14:25 Eden1892 wrote:
i could swear i talked about the marv/hf thing. but in-between bouts of restless sleep awaiting poofter's return i could well have dreamt it

i thought the vivax lynch made marv look significantly worse than hf because

pre-edit: lol i did here you go, i just didn't use any names so it didn't make any sense
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eh I guess it depends on Haru's flip really so I'm not putting much stock into it, but on balance I think scum are much more likely to follow a move at EOD rather than start one. path of least resistance and all

and I know that can be subverted, hence the "on balance" aspect

basically marv was sitting around watching for someone to sheep almost, reading eod. he seemed lost which is really out-of-character for him imo. i can understand it to an extent, but i didn't really feel like vivax made sense and... i dunno it just looked convenient to hop on hyperconfident holyflare's lynch

i almost never scumread people who drive a new wagon at EOD unless the original wagon flips scum, i'm sure one day someone clever like onceking will burn me for it but until it happens i've literally never seen scum drum up a town bandwagon at eod to counter another town wagon

WITH ALL THAT SAID i'm likely tinfoiling if i seriously consider the idea of either of them being scum right now, i would guess this is a moot question because they get n1'd and n2'd


You talked about it a bit, but Wave starting being Wave at me.

Honestly, I'm still getting the disjointedness in his posting. He still feels totally calculated and robotic in his posting. It feels like his scumread on me is forced because I thought I gave him reasonable answers, so I don't know where that's coming from. And then his read winds up being 100% wishy-washy.

I feel really paranoid this game.
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