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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 11 2014 16:28 GMT
#3581
On August 12 2014 01:19 justanothertownie wrote:
And please tell me about some other things. If the scumteam is HF, gk and me:

1) Why would we switch to Vivax day1?
2) Why the shenanigans during the lynch yesterday?
3) Why were gk and I marvs strongest townreads besides you? Do you think you can read us better than he can?

1) Vivax was a better lynch for scum than Haru, based on meta comments from other people and thread atmosphere at the time (as best as I can tell since I can only read after the fact). kush made the meta argument earlier that Vivax is a more dangerous townie than Haru; whether or not that's true in the meta it strikes me as true this game, since he was actually going after Holyflare on d1. marv also sheeped it right away and a lot of people (myself included) came away with townreads based off of it, maybe those townreads don't happen otherwise. I'll grant that it's certainly not normal mafia behavior but I can see plenty of reason for it.
2) Have to go reread to be sure, gimme some time on that.
3) Dat appeal to authority rofl. Pls. marv was wrong about Vivax and wrong about Onegu. Who cares? Good townies are wrong all the time. I spent the whole game until marv died letting him talk me down from my lead on Holyflare and my pushes elsewhere, why the fuck would I keep doing that when it's gotten me to LYLO and I'm only now finding my bearing and feeling like I've got something good by disregarding it?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 11 2014 16:30 GMT
#3582
none of those points point to me being scum wtf?

1. I didn't shrug it off at all referenced by the fact that I wanted to lynch haru the entire day for having a contentless filter for many pages and then him arguing about how hes so town because he didn't succumb to pressure to post reads followed by his crap list post, seeing as 7+ people were on him it's odd that you pick out me.

2. I ignored kush because his responses weren't correct. Mafia comment entirely on game setup/speculation

On August 04 2014 22:36 Holyflare wrote:
do you disagree with my post then kush? he hasn't said anything specific about anyone all game and when he does talk about someone he doesn't mention WHAT they say at all


I made this post and kush replied that haru wasn't talking solely about setup he was instead talking solely about setup AND how mafia would play so i laughed to myself in private and knew it wasn't worth talking about anymore because kush agreed with what i was saying

3. I don't see your point, vivax accuses me of excessively riding the +1-1 point and you quote the post where i dont even use the +1-1 point at all to scum read him so its IMPOSSIBLE to excessively comment on a post that you aren't even commenting on. You also misread vivax's point because he's talking about GK which shows you didn't even read around the subject matter but instead picked out filter and decide to just look at one post rather than the whole situation

4. "I didn't want to talk about my read further" "holyflare is mafia for not talking about it further???" Your post says that you dont' get why he's mafia because of the +1-1 post because it looks so towny and i give an explanation of why it can be from mafia and apparently that makes me mafia. I don't see any misrepresentation here other than you saying that haru's filter had content in it.

5. I can spend 5 minutes and pull up a quote from every game i've ever played in on my phone and you know why i wouldn't do that? because i'm not going to waste my time on something so trivial as "proving im totally town because here's my meta!" If i let it drop it's because it's not a very strong argument. Thank you for proving that.

6. Just like marv has lynched onegu 100% of the time day 2 (50% ). Mafia that have done catch up posts with no direction like that were scum 100% of the time.


to conclude, none of your reasons make me mafia, in fact they show that i pushed on reads that i thought were strong and backed off on reads that i thought were weak and i explored lots of things people weren't thinking of and pointed out discrepencies in their train of thought! Thanks bro!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
August 11 2014 16:31 GMT
#3583
anyway, stop pushing your shitty case on me that literally nobody agrees on BUT cav who isn't even reading the thread so i can spend my remaining time churning out stuff
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
August 11 2014 16:33 GMT
#3584
The thing is that marv has much more experience playing with the people in question than you. His townreads tend to be really good and he doesn't give them lightly as can be seen by the fact that you and me were his only real townreads with gk trailing a little. I am just trying to show you that you are wrong.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
August 11 2014 16:34 GMT
#3585
Whatever. Nap time.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
August 11 2014 17:06 GMT
#3586
I doubt I'm going to be able to get to everything people have written before the NK, so for SOME REASON in case it's me (it won't be)
GK/Haru/HF right now.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 11 2014 17:08 GMT
#3587
On August 12 2014 02:06 WaveofShadow wrote:
I doubt I'm going to be able to get to everything people have written before the NK, so for SOME REASON in case it's me (it won't be)
GK/Haru/HF right now.

god bless america
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 11 2014 17:09 GMT
#3588
yo Wave can we talk about Haru vs JAT for a sec? if we're right about HF and GK then we're not going to be around to argue it so we should probably spend today getting on the same page
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 11 2014 17:13 GMT
#3589
so here's my thing about Haru right now, there's two things that stood out

- his all-caps "I'm back and ready to kick ass" type posts were in line with what I expected to see from town!Haru all game
- Holyflare been push...

wait

lol why has Holyflare been pushing Haru so hard the whole game but then somehow found a reason not to kill him every time

but why bus? ugh

~ This Game Still Hard ~
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 11 2014 17:14 GMT
#3590
Holyflare what's your case on Haru

Wave please give me your case on Haru but after Holyflare

~ I've Got Something Special In Store ~
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 11 2014 18:02 GMT
#3591
Bah, five hours, they're just gonna wait me out and push a lynch on like gobble or some shit

Holyflare if you're town who's your scumteam right now or at least your best lead(s) atm?

Actually this question should go for all of you, there's no excuse for people to be Adkins right now with shortened phases
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 11 2014 18:30 GMT
#3592
God bless my pitiful little town heart for continuing to hold out hope that townies will try to do something before I get nightkilled

Wow that Eden guy is so town his wagon will be so pure!!! /sheep!!!!!

FWIW after a brief reread of the thread I feel like Holyflare/Haru scumteam bus makes sense

Still think goodkarma other one

justanothertownie... uggggghhhh how does a townie have so many similar thoughts to scum?? holyflare so good?? probably actually that makes sense

could it be gooblegobblegooblegobble? is he one of us? one of us

if it's NOT jat then there's some busing going on with holyflare and one of his partners and of them haru makes more sense, he's talked a lot about killing both over the course of the game but somehow only gooblegobblegooblegobble has ended up as a major wagon more than once

sorry in advance for ~ Unflipped Associations ~ but i won't be around to see holyflare flip scum so i'm just going to get my thoughts down for when he does
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 11 2014 19:56 GMT
#3593
I don't have a scumteam. I'll probably figure something out if I'm still alive but idk.
Retired.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
August 11 2014 20:10 GMT
#3594
I have a new theory. Will post soon and I would appreciate feedback.
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 11 2014 20:22 GMT
#3595
I got like 3 hours so I'll try to give you what I've got with whatever time I'm left with
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
August 11 2014 20:34 GMT
#3596
What if the scumteam is something like gk, Haru and Obi? The trio of people not willing to do shit in LYLO?

Looking at how the wagons went so far this makes some sense I think.

Day1: This is the situation before the voteswitch. Haru is the main wagon and neither of gk and Obi is on it.
On August 06 2014 07:51 iamperfection wrote:
Counting of votes:

Artanis[Xp] (0): gobbledydook, marvellosity, marvellosity, marvellosity, Eden1892, HaruRH, kushm4sta, Eden1892, Holyflare
gobbledydook (4): Vivax, Eden1892, Tehpoofter, kushm4sta, ObiWanShinobi, HaruRH

Eden1892 (0): Eden1892
Vivax (2): Eden1892, marvellosity, goodkarma, Holyflare
Tehpoofter (0): Holyflare, goodkarma, gobbledydook
ObiWanShinobi (0): Eden1892, Holyflare, Eden1892, Eden1892
HaruRH (7): gobbledydook, WaveofShadow, Artanis[Xp], marvellosity, gobbledydook, Eden1892, justanothertownie, Eden1892, marvellosity, Eden1892, Tehpoofter
WaveofShadow (0): ObiWanShinobi, kushm4sta, Eden1892, Eden1892, Eden1892
marvellosity (0): Artanis[Xp], Eden1892, Vivax, HaruRH, WaveofShadow, ObiWanShinobi

Not voting (0):
With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.
Deadline is Tuesday, Aug 05 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (in ).


+ Show Spoiler [Vote counter log] +

VOTE: Eden1892 voted Eden1892 (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted Eden1892 (post)
VOTE: Artanis[Xp] voted Marvellosity (marvellosity) (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 voted marvellosity (post)
VOTE: Vivax voted marvellosity (post)
VOTE: HaruRH voted marvellosity (post)
VOTE: WaveofShadow voted marvellosity (post)
VOTE: ObiWanShinobi voted Wave (WaveofShadow) (post)
VOTE: gobbledydook voted HaruRH (post)
VOTE: kushm4sta voted WoS (WaveofShadow) (post)
VOTE: kushm4sta unvoted WaveofShadow (post)
ERROR: kushm4sta voted invalid player gg (post)
VOTE: gobbledydook unvoted HaruRH (post)
VOTE: gobbledydook voted Artanis[XP] (Artanis[Xp]) (post)
VOTE: marvellosity voted Artanis (Artanis[Xp]) (post)
WARNING: marvellosity changed vote without unvote (post)
VOTE: marvellosity unvoted Artanis[Xp] (post)
VOTE: marvellosity voted Artanis[xp] (Artanis[Xp]) (post)
VOTE: marvellosity unvoted Artanis[Xp] (post)
VOTE: marvellosity voted Artanis[xp] (Artanis[Xp]) (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted marvellosity (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 voted WaveofShadow (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted WaveofShadow (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 voted Artanis[Xp] (post)
VOTE: HaruRH unvoted marvellosity (post)
VOTE: HaruRH voted Artanis [xp] (Artanis[Xp]) (post)
WARNING: kushm4sta unvoted without vote (post)
VOTE: kushm4sta voted artanis (Artanis[Xp]) (post)
VOTE: ObiWanShinobi unvoted WaveofShadow (post)
VOTE: ObiWanShinobi voted marv (marvellosity) (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted Artanis[Xp] (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 voted WaveofShadow (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted WaveofShadow (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 voted ObiWanShinobi (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted ObiWanShinobi (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 voted WaveofShadow (post)
VOTE: Holyflare voted obiwanshinobi (ObiWanShinobi) (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted WaveofShadow (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 voted ObiWanShinobi (post)
VOTE: WaveofShadow unvoted marvellosity (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted ObiWanShinobi (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 voted Artanis[Xp] (post)
VOTE: WaveofShadow voted HaruRH (post)
VOTE: Holyflare unvoted ObiWanShinobi (post)
VOTE: Holyflare voted tehpoofter (Tehpoofter) (post)
VOTE: goodkarma voted Tehpoofter (post)
VOTE: Holyflare unvoted Tehpoofter (post)
VOTE: gobbledydook unvoted Artanis[Xp] (post)
VOTE: gobbledydook voted Tehpoofter (post)
ERROR: Tehpoofter voted invalid player Gooblyzilla (post)
VOTE: Holyflare voted artanis[Xp] (Artanis[Xp]) (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted Artanis[Xp] (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 voted Vivax (post)
VOTE: Artanis[Xp] unvoted marvellosity (post)
VOTE: Artanis[Xp] voted HaruRH (post)
VOTE: marvellosity unvoted Artanis[Xp] (post)
VOTE: marvellosity voted HaruRH (post)
VOTE: gobbledydook unvoted Tehpoofter (post)
VOTE: gobbledydook voted HaruRH (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted Vivax (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 voted HaruRH (post)
VOTE: justanothertownie voted HaruRH (post)
VOTE: marvellosity unvoted HaruRH (post)
VOTE: marvellosity voted Vivax (post)
VOTE: Vivax unvoted marvellosity (post)
VOTE: Vivax voted gobbledydook (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted HaruRH (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 voted gobbledydook (post)
VOTE: Tehpoofter voted gobbledydook (post)
VOTE: ObiWanShinobi unvoted marvellosity (post)
VOTE: goodkarma unvoted Tehpoofter (post)
VOTE: goodkarma voted Vivax (post)
VOTE: kushm4sta unvoted Artanis[Xp] (post)
VOTE: kushm4sta voted gobbledydook (post)
VOTE: Holyflare unvoted Artanis[Xp] (post)
VOTE: Holyflare voted vivax (Vivax) (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted gobbledydook (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 voted HaruRH (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted HaruRH (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 voted ObiWanShinobi (post)
VOTE: marvellosity unvoted Vivax (post)
VOTE: marvellosity voted HaruRH (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted ObiWanShinobi (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 voted HaruRH (post)
VOTE: Tehpoofter unvoted gobbledydook (post)
VOTE: Tehpoofter voted Haru (HaruRH) (post)

After the switch: They all voted in Order to save Haru:
On August 06 2014 08:02 iamperfection wrote:
Counting of votes:

Artanis[Xp] (0): gobbledydook, marvellosity, marvellosity, marvellosity, Eden1892, HaruRH, kushm4sta, Eden1892, Holyflare
gobbledydook (2): Vivax, Eden1892, Tehpoofter, kushm4sta, ObiWanShinobi, HaruRH
Eden1892 (0): Eden1892
Vivax (8): Eden1892, marvellosity, goodkarma, Holyflare, marvellosity, justanothertownie, Artanis, HaruRH, ObiWanShinobi, Tehpoofter
Tehpoofter (0): Holyflare, goodkarma, gobbledydook
ObiWanShinobi (0): Eden1892, Holyflare, Eden1892, Eden1892
HaruRH (3): gobbledydook, WaveofShadow, Artanis[Xp], marvellosity, gobbledydook, Eden1892, justanothertownie, Eden1892, marvellosity, Eden1892, Tehpoofter
WaveofShadow (0): ObiWanShinobi, kushm4sta, Eden1892, Eden1892, Eden1892
marvellosity (0): Artanis[Xp], Eden1892, Vivax, HaruRH, WaveofShadow, ObiWanShinobi

Not voting (0):
With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.
Deadline is Tuesday, Aug 05 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (in ).


+ Show Spoiler [Vote counter log] +

VOTE: Eden1892 voted Eden1892 (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted Eden1892 (post)
VOTE: Artanis[Xp] voted Marvellosity (marvellosity) (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 voted marvellosity (post)
VOTE: Vivax voted marvellosity (post)
VOTE: HaruRH voted marvellosity (post)
VOTE: WaveofShadow voted marvellosity (post)
VOTE: ObiWanShinobi voted Wave (WaveofShadow) (post)
VOTE: gobbledydook voted HaruRH (post)
VOTE: kushm4sta voted WoS (WaveofShadow) (post)
VOTE: kushm4sta unvoted WaveofShadow (post)
ERROR: kushm4sta voted invalid player gg (post)
VOTE: gobbledydook unvoted HaruRH (post)
VOTE: gobbledydook voted Artanis[XP] (Artanis[Xp]) (post)
VOTE: marvellosity voted Artanis (Artanis[Xp]) (post)
WARNING: marvellosity changed vote without unvote (post)
VOTE: marvellosity unvoted Artanis[Xp] (post)
VOTE: marvellosity voted Artanis[xp] (Artanis[Xp]) (post)
VOTE: marvellosity unvoted Artanis[Xp] (post)
VOTE: marvellosity voted Artanis[xp] (Artanis[Xp]) (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted marvellosity (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 voted WaveofShadow (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted WaveofShadow (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 voted Artanis[Xp] (post)
VOTE: HaruRH unvoted marvellosity (post)
VOTE: HaruRH voted Artanis [xp] (Artanis[Xp]) (post)
WARNING: kushm4sta unvoted without vote (post)
VOTE: kushm4sta voted artanis (Artanis[Xp]) (post)
VOTE: ObiWanShinobi unvoted WaveofShadow (post)
VOTE: ObiWanShinobi voted marv (marvellosity) (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted Artanis[Xp] (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 voted WaveofShadow (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted WaveofShadow (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 voted ObiWanShinobi (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted ObiWanShinobi (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 voted WaveofShadow (post)
VOTE: Holyflare voted obiwanshinobi (ObiWanShinobi) (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted WaveofShadow (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 voted ObiWanShinobi (post)
VOTE: WaveofShadow unvoted marvellosity (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted ObiWanShinobi (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 voted Artanis[Xp] (post)
VOTE: WaveofShadow voted HaruRH (post)
VOTE: Holyflare unvoted ObiWanShinobi (post)
VOTE: Holyflare voted tehpoofter (Tehpoofter) (post)
VOTE: goodkarma voted Tehpoofter (post)
VOTE: Holyflare unvoted Tehpoofter (post)
VOTE: gobbledydook unvoted Artanis[Xp] (post)
VOTE: gobbledydook voted Tehpoofter (post)
ERROR: Tehpoofter voted invalid player Gooblyzilla (post)
VOTE: Holyflare voted artanis[Xp] (Artanis[Xp]) (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted Artanis[Xp] (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 voted Vivax (post)
VOTE: Artanis[Xp] unvoted marvellosity (post)
VOTE: Artanis[Xp] voted HaruRH (post)
VOTE: marvellosity unvoted Artanis[Xp] (post)
VOTE: marvellosity voted HaruRH (post)
VOTE: gobbledydook unvoted Tehpoofter (post)
VOTE: gobbledydook voted HaruRH (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted Vivax (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 voted HaruRH (post)
VOTE: justanothertownie voted HaruRH (post)
VOTE: marvellosity unvoted HaruRH (post)
VOTE: marvellosity voted Vivax (post)
VOTE: Vivax unvoted marvellosity (post)
VOTE: Vivax voted gobbledydook (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted HaruRH (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 voted gobbledydook (post)
VOTE: Tehpoofter voted gobbledydook (post)
VOTE: ObiWanShinobi unvoted marvellosity (post)
VOTE: goodkarma unvoted Tehpoofter (post)
VOTE: goodkarma voted Vivax (post)
VOTE: kushm4sta unvoted Artanis[Xp] (post)
VOTE: kushm4sta voted gobbledydook (post)
VOTE: Holyflare unvoted Artanis[Xp] (post)
VOTE: Holyflare voted vivax (Vivax) (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted gobbledydook (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 voted HaruRH (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted HaruRH (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 voted ObiWanShinobi (post)
VOTE: marvellosity unvoted Vivax (post)
VOTE: marvellosity voted HaruRH (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted ObiWanShinobi (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 voted HaruRH (post)
VOTE: Tehpoofter unvoted gobbledydook (post)
VOTE: Tehpoofter voted Haru (HaruRH) (post)

I think there isn't really that much info to get out o the day2 wagon tbh. :/
Day3 there were 2 town wagons if we assume that gobble is town (we probably should looking at the wagons at EoD) and they didn't have to vote together or really push something. Haru and Obi just lazily voted one of the wagons without doing much else. The only thing that gives me pause here is gks switch at the end because it seemed like he saw what I saw and acted in the exact same moment like me. Why would scum do this if both wagons are town?
On August 11 2014 08:00 iamperfection wrote:
Counting of votes:

Tehpoofter (6): goodkarma, gobbledydook, Eden1892, ObiWanShinobi, Holyflare, Eden1892, justanothertownie, goodkarma, Holyflare
gobbledydook (3): Holyflare, ObiWanShinobi, HaruRH, justanothertownie, Eden1892, goodkarma, Tehpoofter, WaveofShadow, Holyflare
WaveofShadow (0): Eden1892

Not voting (0): ,

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.
Deadline is Sunday, Aug 10 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (in ).


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VOTE: Eden1892 voted WaveofShadow (post)
VOTE: Holyflare voted gobbledydook (post)
VOTE: goodkarma voted TehPoofter (Tehpoofter) (post)
VOTE: ObiWanShinobi voted gd (gobbledydook) (post)
VOTE: gobbledydook voted TehPoofter (Tehpoofter) (post)
VOTE: HaruRH voted gobble (gobbledydook) (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted WaveofShadow (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 voted Tehpoofter (post)
VOTE: justanothertownie voted gobbledydook (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 unvoted Tehpoofter (post)
VOTE: Eden1892 voted gobbledydook (post)
VOTE: ObiWanShinobi unvoted gobbledydook (post)
VOTE: ObiWanShinobi voted tehpoofter (Tehpoofter) (post)
VOTE: goodkarma unvoted Tehpoofter (post)
VOTE: goodkarma voted Gobbledydook (gobbledydook) (post)




The votecounts are basically there to show that this makes sense considering how the game went so far. The actual reason for the theory is that I basically townread all other people to some degree and that those 3 are the ones who seem not to care about the game in a LYLO situation.
I still have a hard time seeing HF as scum for reasons mentioned already.
Wave seemed really towny as of late.
Eden is town. I have almost no doubt about that.
The EoD yesterday seemed to strongly indicate that gobble is town. Also if I am right 2 mafia were pushing him day1 at some point.

I know I townread gk before but I have to take that back at this point. This level of not caring is just not towny in any way.
Do you see any strong reason why this theory has to be wrong, Eden?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
August 11 2014 20:37 GMT
#3597
I will admit that I did not filter dive those people yet because I didn't have the time yet but I wanted to get this out there to be able to discuss it or in case I die tonight.
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 11 2014 20:45 GMT
#3598
Any strong reason why it has to be? Not really.

With specific respect to CaviwanShinobinho I guess I have the same reservations with him as you have with Holyflare, I see where he looks scummy but on a couple of occasions he's said exactly what I've been thinking at the same time as I've been thinking it

As far as the LYLO apathy goes... I can't really coherently argue against it, because if anyone is going to be relatively uninterested or not invested in the outcome at 7p LYLO it's scum, but at the same time it just... feels too easy I guess? Like it's weird that all 3 scum would all just happen to be the three people who seem not to give a fuck at LYLO. I would expect at least one of them to give a shit still.

Again there isn't a strong reason why this must be wrong, it just feels too easy and obvious for a game in which we've struggled so mightily. But that doesn't mean it's wrong, either.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 11 2014 20:48 GMT
#3599
Jat, I've already argued against this theory before.

I wanted the wagon to stay between gd and haru, so implying that I was trying to save Haru by voting Vivax is really really dumb.

I don't know why I have to repeat this so many times but I guess I'll just keep doing it.
Retired.
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
August 11 2014 20:48 GMT
#3600
Also I'm officially changing my answer for the scumteam to Holyflare/Haru/goodkarma

Haru could maybe change my mind again but he'd have to actually do something first, JAT putting in some decent work right here and even doing me the courtesy of letting me discuss it before killing me which makes me think he's not the one killing me!

God I wish one of the people on the list would fucking step up and do something while I'm alive to work with them
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
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