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Become mafia's maladies Chopin | ||
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On July 23 2014 02:24 Damdred wrote: Eh, and I really don't like you unvoting and voting me without any reasons posted your better than that obi. However it was his only post that wasn't in his normal way of talking which would of been more epic since chopin was mad at times. If you state my companion at times is mad Then surely your vote must be bad? For a remark put in jest Your views stir much unrest Such that you irk me a tad Liszt | ||
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Since voting us many are snoozing! | ||
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On July 23 2014 04:00 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Yeah, this game is really slow. On July 23 2014 04:17 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Let's kill Koshi for accepting the fact that it's slow and then not trying to fix it. ##unvote ##vote Koshi You must have very long dreadlocks All you do is speak in paradox ##vote ObiWanShinobi | ||
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On July 23 2014 04:15 Koshi wrote: I agree it is slow. Meh. One might say it is adagio Chopin | ||
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On July 23 2014 06:09 Xatalos wrote: I don't think it's a good idea to lynch either of us for D1. Generally speaking. What does this mean? | ||
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On July 23 2014 06:16 Xatalos wrote: Koshi can look scummy during D1 as town so it's not usually a good time to lynch him. I'm generally active regardless of my alignment, and I become a (somewhat) valuable asset throughout the game as town and I tend to reveal myself more easily later on as scum (+leaving material to work with). Neither of us are ideal D1 lynches. Interesting. Why don't you give us a list of acceptable day 1 lynches then, friend? | ||
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I find it odd that you're attempting to exclude yourself from the lynch for fairly mediocre reasoning, but at the moment it's just odd, rather than scummy-odd. | ||
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Palmar stole my thunder. Don't really need to explain further beyond what Palmar already said about him. Chopin | ||
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On July 23 2014 11:44 batsnacks wrote: ##Unvote: HaruRH I don't think Haru's response below warranted this unvote. Can anyone see the townie rainbows in this particular post? On July 23 2014 11:40 HaruRH wrote: @batsnacks My read on damdred is still null, but it is closer to town than most nulls due to his response to this xatalos pressure on him. He answers xatalos' suspicion on him with logical thinking, which is pretty good compared to freaking out. Also, his 'read' on xatalos is well substantiated and better than most cases on xatalos, which is another plus. Still hesitant to call anyone town on d1. | ||
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On July 23 2014 18:52 HaruRH wrote: Its k, I don't need to attempt to convince you anything, so let's drop this discussion The reason the conversation is pointless is because it's an entirely an observation about batsnacks, and not in any way an observation about you. | ||
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Are you fond of giving out townreads for generic mush, Koshi? Or are you joking at the moment? I can't tell. | ||
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On July 23 2014 18:56 Xatalos wrote: I guess you mean the way he seems interested(?) in generating material to work with. But a post like that would be trivial to make as any alignment. This is correct. | ||
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On July 23 2014 19:04 Koshi wrote: I GOT THE SICKEST IDEA RIGHT NOW. Hitting middle C on the piano with your nose repeatedly is not a 'sick idea'. Ample forewarning, my musical leper. | ||
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On July 23 2014 19:06 Koshi wrote: [/b]What do you think about: The 2 Prepared Passengers should claim. There is no downside except scum knowing these 2 are not blue. But still. If they don't shoot these guys they are confirmed town forever. I don't really understand the point. They could instead not claim and not give away that information. They should claim before LYLO but that isn't now. | ||
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Anyway, I think navillus has potential and I'd rather keep him around over the likes of obi/teem/vivax. Vivax probably strongest mafia read for not giving a shit like usual mafia vivax, time will tell in the day though. Teem makes weird ass posts that are total mafia traits posts: On July 23 2014 14:53 Teemursu wrote: Hey, Haru, what do you think of Damdred? he asks a lot of people about damd but then never follows up with why, never posts saying that damd is probably mafia because of x,y,z and then later only follows up when asked and responds with almost nothing about the person he was most curious about Xatalos leaning scum, damdred had kind of a bad entrance to the thread and his posting since hasn't been so good that I'd put him higher. kush I have leaning town. He's posting some reads and pressuring people. Then after, still continues with the damd questions On July 23 2014 17:56 Teemursu wrote: So you're not interested in finding out people's alignment based on how they're pushing on someone who you think is town? Palmar, what do you think of damdrad? I feel like he's making similar mafia posts. + free town reads on palmar/kush etc based on very little ##unvote ##vote teemursu | ||
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On July 23 2014 19:47 Vivax wrote: Ask your partner. Who is it, marv? are you trying to find out if we're worth shooting at night? | ||
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On July 23 2014 19:52 Koshi wrote: I don't know if one out of Marv & Holyflare can rhyme. To make a rhyme as Holyflare, I admit would be a 'mare. But I suppose we could carve some elegant verse for marv. But what of the real partner in crime, is he really able to rhyme? Let us not play this Haydn-seek There is only one aim To cause mafia to freak is the name of the game. Chopin | ||
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On July 23 2014 20:04 Koshi wrote: Yes. Who is rhyming? The unknown or Holyflare? Who really knows? | ||
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with this case I could perhaps flirt but this Navillus is oh so weak real impetus, his posts do not seek Chopin | ||
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On July 23 2014 20:24 Koshi wrote: This Navillus guy is not mafia. Just read his posts. Obvious town. I open his filter. See 3 first posts. Town. Explain better | ||
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On July 23 2014 20:27 Koshi wrote: If you say it is Holyflare or the Unknown rhyming. The Unknown. Holyflare is Liszt. This cannot be missed. | ||
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On July 23 2014 20:25 Teemursu wrote: You accuse me of the same thing Navillus has been doing, give him a pass and not vote on Vivax, who is your strongest mafia read. Well played. When someone says something you've been thinking about before you yourself say it out loud, I can see that person being on the same wavelength as I am, thus the town read. Most of your case is just pushing on me for asking people what I thought of Damdred. I was starting to read the thread, and I didn't like his entrance to the thread. Him being my first read, I asked others what others thought about him. Also, when I asked Palmar about him, I mentioned that I think Damdred is scummy. I -am- giving a read on Damdred, I think he's scummy. Kush doesn't interest me today, what I quickly saw from him was okay and nothing he did was particularly scummy to me. You're wasting time with me. Generally I get decent reads from people interacting with me, but your push on me solely because of giving unsubstantiated reads doesn't really help me figure out your alignment. I would much rather see you look at my interaction with Obi. How is that anything like what navillus has been doing? He's backed up his scum reads with quotes and evidence and pointed people in directions and then asked people what they think of the people he was discussing. You just questioned people on damd and then gave only a "he's scummy" reason, which is not a reason. Vivax is a scum read for not doing anything but that can change based on what he does later in the cycle hence why he's not being voted over you. Why does that matter anyway when you've already stated that you don't take meta reads into account at all? | ||
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On July 23 2014 21:52 Vivax wrote: Somebody's getting angry. You gonna have the balls to actually call him mafia? | ||
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I did. On July 23 2014 20:58 Vivax wrote: You are hereby added to the people eligible for lynch. Fend yourself as you see fit. That's as close as you got, despite your many posts on the issue. | ||
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On July 23 2014 22:08 Teemursu wrote: Your case is so weak at this point and the fact you're harping on the fact that I was asking questions makes me think you're either mafia trying to push a miss lynch or bad town, in which case you should just let your hydra partner play solo from now on, which would also make it easier for me to read you.  +1 townie point. Chopin | ||
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On July 23 2014 22:32 Teemursu wrote: I also want to hear from CL about the switch from agreeing with Palmar's case on Navillus, voting on Navillus, and then asking everyone else why Navillus is being lynched and saying he has "potential" (while Nav hadn't even had time to respond yet). Liszt and I appear to be somewhat syncopated when it comes to Navillus. I will try to align our scores. Chopin | ||
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On July 23 2014 22:38 Teemursu wrote: Mostly agree. Why Chopin? Also could you put that list into an order of would lynch the most -> would want to lynch the least. You agree with Vivax, little Teermursu? In the battle royale with Koshi, you have the view That Koshi is the evil, the bastard, the swine and Vivax is dandy, splendid, and fine? I tell you this, I'll make it breve I hope this, I can achieve It may be two fine composers, a simple misunderstandin' but if one is malign, it is not our Belgian. Chopin | ||
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On July 23 2014 22:49 Teemursu wrote: If this is how hydras play out (in terms of how hard it is to read that person) I probably will never want to play with a hydra in the same game. Which one of you was the one who pointed out Obi's hypocrisy earlier in the game or was it Liszt? Which one of you was the one who made their case on me and pushed on it? Is every post that isn't signed by Chopin made by Liszt? I'm so confused. Liszt, Liszt, no. Liszt's posts should be obvious now that he has revealed himself as the famed mafia player, Holyflare. Chopin | ||
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On July 23 2014 23:06 Vivax wrote: I'd rather focus on Koshi and navi for today. A bit more unsure about the other two. Regarding chopin, I got bad vibes from that last question since he implies I didn't say clearly enough that I thought Koshi was mafia when it was there for him to read, so it's a bit of guts and animosity and not a fully fleshed out read based on analysis yet. Yes, and I was correct... You skirted around it while Koshi went directly at your throat. Chopin | ||
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On July 23 2014 23:11 Vivax wrote: Semantics you are arguing about, when I say a guy is eligible for lynch then it's hardly cause I think he's town. 'Semantics' of this sort are exactly how you differentiate between town and mafia. Town are blunt and to the point most of the time. Koshi was a good deal blunter and to the point than you were. I don't understand how you cannot see this. Chopin | ||
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On July 24 2014 00:08 Xatalos wrote: Oh yeah, to this: in any case, it's not a good idea to lynch him now since if he's scum, he's bound to become apathetic at some point. If someone is mafia, it's always a good idea to lynch them now. | ||
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On July 24 2014 01:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Kush is mafia for thinking that I'm mafia for no reason. ##unvote ##vote Kush Is this real? | ||
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On July 24 2014 01:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Cooks.com says 2. Also, I still want to know why kush thinks I'm mafia. Is he actually your strongest read or do you just want answers? Proper answer please. | ||
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##Vote: batsnacks 1. No-one has mentioned him really (except Koshi calling him town for colors) 2. He's not done anything but has a reasonable number of posts 3. Just staring at the playerlist my eye kept getting drawn here. This makes him very likely mafia. Looking at his towngames, he has wonky accusations that he follows through strongly. In his most recent game he was mafia and struggled to be at all productive. Thank you for listening. Chopin | ||
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On July 24 2014 05:02 Teemursu wrote: I'm not familiar with anyone's meta and I don't care about anyone's meta. He is not posting. He is not contributing. His only "meaningful", single, post is scum indicative. If he actually is town, he is not going to be an asset to town. If he is actually town, he is going to be a huge questionmark later. If he is town, he is mafia siding HARD. Lynching him today is PRO TOWN. In your newbie game you went after people for quite superficial reasons. It feels like you're doing the same here, although I'm struggling to tell whether that's because you're the same alignment or it's just the way you play that you tried to mimic in your mafia game. Lynching a townie is never pro town. Do you actually believe this? Chopin | ||
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On July 24 2014 05:03 kushm4sta wrote: chopin, i agree with that mafia meta, but this game he has been productive with his time in the thread, giving reads and stuff. i would say his snr ration is pretty high actually. is chopin or liszt hf? Read his filter and try again. Chopin | ||
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On July 24 2014 05:06 kushm4sta wrote: chopin also im curious how you are reading obi Mostly left to right. Chopin | ||
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Chopin P.S. if I felt strongly one way or another, I would let you know. | ||
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On July 24 2014 05:11 Teemursu wrote: Your question is dumb. It only has one correct answer. Still, he is not confirmed town. Why do you think he's townie? Feel free to show which of the reasons that I think someone is mafia are superficial. Of course it only has one correct answer. Therefore why does half your post run with that assumption? Chopin | ||
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On July 24 2014 01:41 Teemursu wrote: The fuck? Are you... joking? This is your contribution after being asked, for example, your reason for voting on Haru, which is literally the only thing you've done in this game? How are you expecting to win as town? If not by scumhunting, you're saying we should not post at all, throw out a half-assed non-content post about how doing towny things somehow implies being mafia? If you're town, you still realise there's a difference between scumhunting and posting as mafia? Who is shitting the thread and how are they making it unreadable for you? mafiamafiamafiamafiamafia ##Unvote ##Vote VayneAuthority Re: superficial. For instance. You reach the conclusion, apparently extremely strongly here (mafiamafiamafiamafia) that Vayne is mafia for his post. Yet nowhere in your explanation do you allow for the fact that he could just be a terrible townie. You don't need meta (other than having played the game of mafia before) to know that there exist terrible townies. But there's no consideration for this here. There are other instances too, which I'll bring up if I decide that we're going to lynch you. But that isn't the case just yet. You've posted quite a lot, which makes me wary. But your suspicions in general I don't like. You can buy my favour by voting batsnacks the fake composer with me. Just last night I caught him trying to copy my work. Chopin | ||
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On July 24 2014 05:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: Shopping your case and what you called Teemursu out just a while ago; How do these two things go together? I don't understand the question. Chopin | ||
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On July 24 2014 05:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: you said: batsnacks is mafia because: 1. No-one has mentioned him really (except Koshi calling him town for colors) 2. He's not done anything but has a reasonable number of posts 3. Just staring at the playerlist my eye kept getting drawn here. This makes him very likely mafia. then you called out Teemursu for: "Yet nowhere in your explanation do you allow for the fact that he could just be a terrible townie. You don't need meta (other than having played the game of mafia before) to know that there exist terrible townies. But there's no consideration for this here." How does the stuff you call batsnacks out for make him scum over the stuff you call out Teemu for? The two are unrelated? I still don't know what you're asking. | ||
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On July 24 2014 05:19 Chopin Liszt wrote: Re: superficial. For instance. You reach the conclusion, apparently extremely strongly here (mafiamafiamafiamafia) that Vayne is mafia for his post. Yet nowhere in your explanation do you allow for the fact that he could just be a terrible townie. You don't need meta (other than having played the game of mafia before) to know that there exist terrible townies. But there's no consideration for this here. There are other instances too, which I'll bring up if I decide that we're going to lynch you. But that isn't the case just yet. You've posted quite a lot, which makes me wary. But your suspicions in general I don't like. You can buy my favour by voting batsnacks the fake composer with me. Just last night I caught him trying to copy my work. Chopin It's as simple as that. | ||
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3. is obviously a joke. The meta stuff wasn't listed in 1, 2, or 3. I stated why I was not wanting to lynch Teermersu right now. Please don't make me explain basic things to you again. Chopin | ||
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On July 24 2014 05:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't believe you are asking this... People vote for their top scumread, at least until EOD (consolidation). I feel like Shoppinglist is having you as more scummy as he does have batsnacks. therefore he should be pushing you and not him right? I genuinely don't understand what part of "he is active" you don't understand in relation to this. Teermersu is far more involved than batsnacks is, even if there are things I don't like about his play. For example, I am not considering lynching you right now even though you seem to be pushing me on something that should be extremely obvious to you. Because you actually seem to care what is going on, at least. Chopin | ||
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batsnacks looks less horrendous than yesterday. Maybe. I am missing a lurking mafia somewhere if it's not him, for sure. | ||
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He just maybe possibly not sure has a tone/attitude thing going for him. | ||
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Which of the many issues has he genuinely weighed in on? That's what I'm referring to I guess. | ||
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On July 24 2014 18:54 Palmar wrote: I didn't say damdred was scum. Just navillus Because Navillus (as mafia) doesn't know why Damdred (as town) is supposed to be mafia? Or what? | ||
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I assume one of the rogue composers slipped a staccato of arsenic in his food. | ||
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On July 24 2014 19:33 HaruRH wrote: Also, xata's case on damdred was that he is quite unconvinced damdred is scum: 'Maybe it's a bit hypocritical, considering my weak commitments so far, but this is the ultimate non-committing push on me (while still giving him the opportunity to vote for me later on)' But later goes back to vote for damdred, whom we already established as a low hanging fruit and easy to lynch. I don't understand the significance of the bolded, as far as I know there's no rule that "low hanging fruit" are town. | ||
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On July 24 2014 20:37 Koshi wrote: ##unvote ##vote Chopin Listzs I got to have my vote on this guy as well. Also highhh chance on scum. Composers have an extra sign of madness. They hear sounds in their head, which is surely not so different from the “voices” saints and madmen hear. You could say being slightly unhinged just goes with the territory. But some creative artists actually go over the edge and become what we might call clinically insane. | ||
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On July 24 2014 20:54 Koshi wrote: Chopin is like really really really likely scum. 100%? | ||
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I'll get right on that. Hopefully there will be no Vomitgate | ||
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On July 24 2014 21:00 Koshi wrote: I don't even fucking know who you are. But you suck ass and are scum. Stop being terrible at the game. 1. I do not "suck ass", except on alternate Tuesdays 2. I am not mafia 3. I am not terrible at the game 4. On a serious note, if Vivax is actually mafia, you're making him look less and less mafia by how you're pushing him. You're literally forcing him to be reasonable in comparison to you. You should be able to understand this, unless you are actually terrible at this game, which I don't think you are. | ||
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 Will (holyflare): started throwing up blood and shit Chopin: take a pictur Will (holyflare): think its from my throat though so its k Chopin: koshi will love it Will (holyflare): lol ok? Will (holyflare): haha Will (holyflare): i saw rhat Chopin: i'm serious Chopin: i think it would be amazing. Will (holyflare): will get on that then lol Chopin: yes Chopin: more coughing blood please Chopin: so we can have #sickselfie | ||
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On July 24 2014 21:10 Koshi wrote: So he can type words there but not in the thread. kk. I think you need help. | ||
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On July 24 2014 21:36 Teemursu wrote: Could you, please? I feel like you're given all the chance to prove you're town and fight the lynch, but instead you're going down like you've accepted it already. Your whole filter is just random fluff with no direction. It's such a bore to try to read it. Honestly this is the best reason I've seen so far for Xatalos being mafia. | ||
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On July 24 2014 16:38 slOosh wrote: Day 1 Votecount Xatalos (6) - Chairman Ray, GlowingBear, HaruRH, raynpelikoneet, Navillus, batsnacks Damdred (3) - Chopin Liszt, Vivax, Xatalos VayneAuthority (2) - Teemursu, Palmar Vivax (1) - ObiWanShinobi Chopin Liszt (2) - Damdred, Koshi HaruRH (1) - VayneAuthority I updated this somewhat from memory. Which votes are wrong/missing? | ||
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On July 24 2014 16:38 slOosh wrote: Day 1 Votecount Xatalos (6) - Chairman Ray, GlowingBear, HaruRH, raynpelikoneet, Navillus, batsnacks Damdred (3) - Chopin Liszt, Vivax, Xatalos VayneAuthority (2) - Teemursu, Palmar Vivax (1) - ObiWanShinobi Chopin Liszt (2) - Damdred, Koshi HaruRH (1) - VayneAuthority Assuming this is correct, all the votes in red are effectively useless right now. That's 2/5 of the votes being cast on people who aren't getting lynched. Can we fix this please. Damdred has a good chance of being mafia. Better than Xatalos. Haru is not mafia. Votes on Vayne and me are silly for differing reasons. Just looking at this, Obiwan might be mafia. He's practically let this day slide by completely. I would support a lynch on Obiwan. | ||
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On July 24 2014 21:55 Koshi wrote: Why the fuck is your vote not useless on Damdred? can't tell if this is serious | ||
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On July 24 2014 21:59 Koshi wrote: I remember Xatalos (on who the votes are not useless) made a terrible case on Damdred that got sheeped by 2 vets, and I mean literally sheeped. That's all I remember on Damdred. You're making the ludicrous argument that all votes should be on one wagon. All the votes I pointed out are on people who won't get lynched today. Damdred could get lynched today. What's difficult to understand, Koshi? | ||
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On July 24 2014 22:04 Koshi wrote: Yeah, chopin is so mafia though. He wants to lynch Obiwan and doesn't vote him. If this ass scuker is marv than he would always vote first. ALWAYS. I want to lynch Damdred too... ... | ||
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1. HaruRH 2. Koshi 3. teemursu 4. Chopin Liszt 5. VayneAuthority 6. raynpelikoneet 7. ObiWanShinobi 8. Navillus 9. GlowingBear 10. kushm4sta 11. Chairman Ray 12. Vivax 13. Xatalos 14. batsnacks 15. Damdred 16. Palmar | ||
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On July 24 2014 22:09 Teemursu wrote: Reading through Damdred's filter now. Could people who have made cases against him link them to me, please? Better question: you tell me why he might be town | ||
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On July 24 2014 22:16 Chopin Liszt wrote: Let me check Storm 2. ok on page 1 Damdred's filter in Storm 2 I cannot tell you why he is town either. ##Unvote ##Vote: ObiWanShinobi | ||
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Best way of insuring intelligent conversation. Chopin, you smart fellow To you I say - hello! Your conversation is so relaxing Talking with you is simply not taxing It leaves me feeling mellow. Chopin | ||
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On July 24 2014 16:38 slOosh wrote: Day 1 Votecount Xatalos (6) - Chairman Ray, GlowingBear, HaruRH, raynpelikoneet, Navillus, batsnacks Damdred (2) - Vivax, Xatalos ObiWanShinobi (2) - Teermursu, Chopin Liszt VayneAuthority (1) - Palmar Vivax (1) - ObiWanShinobi Chopin Liszt (2) - Damdred, Koshi HaruRH (1) - VayneAuthority The main problem is that no-one on Xatalos is really here. | ||
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So let's not lynch him. | ||
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On July 24 2014 22:30 Vivax wrote: I'd say around the 70 %. I still have room for thought that he's just being cray cray as town. I am fairly sure Koshi does not have the capacity to be this crazy as mafia. I'm not sure why you think he does. | ||
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On July 24 2014 22:31 Xatalos wrote: I don't think me claiming would serve much purpose. Mostly those who are active in the thread don't want to lynch me anyway and it'd just make things easier for scum. how? | ||
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On July 24 2014 22:32 Xatalos wrote: More information to help with night kill decisions. If you die now then there is no more information. | ||
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Mafia don't make these retarded, convoluted plays that make zero sense. | ||
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On July 24 2014 23:53 Vivax wrote: The play is bad, but the logic he just used isn't logic. Did you get HF to see what Teemursu said? HF isn't responding to me at the moment. | ||
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This is not how mafia try to rationalize their way through claiming while they're being lynched. | ||
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Even if that is true, at the point he made it it's essentially a meaningless throwaway vote. If Obiwan is mafia with Vivax there is no way he expects Vivax to even come close to getting lynched today. | ||
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On July 24 2014 23:55 Teemursu wrote: chopin why not vivax ove obi Vivax has the joint longest filter in the game. These players are not usually mafia. If they are, I'm not punting on them Day 1. Not a chance. | ||
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On July 24 2014 23:57 Koshi wrote: PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEE. He just does it to taunt me. You know very well I won't, Koshi. | ||
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On July 25 2014 00:10 VayneAuthority wrote: nothing he said stuck out to me from reading the thread, so you would just have to give a brief explanation. only thing i noticed is that he is much more subdued this game then in that ritoky game where he was town bingo....... | ||
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On July 24 2014 16:38 slOosh wrote: Day 1 Votecount Xatalos (6) - Chairman Ray, GlowingBear, HaruRH, raynpelikoneet, Navillus, Koshi Navillus (2) - kushm4sta, VayneAuthority Damdred (1) - Vivax ObiWanShinobi (3) - Teermursu, Chopin Liszt, Xatalos VayneAuthority (1) - Palmar Vivax (2) - ObiWanShinobi, batsnacks Chopin Liszt (1) - Damdred Koshi (1) - GlowingBear I think this is roughly accurate | ||
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On July 24 2014 16:38 slOosh wrote: Day 1 Votecount Xatalos (5) - Chairman Ray, HaruRH, raynpelikoneet, Navillus, Koshi Navillus (2) - kushm4sta, VayneAuthority Damdred (1) - Vivax ObiWanShinobi (3) - Teermursu, Chopin Liszt, Xatalos VayneAuthority (1) - Palmar Vivax (2) - ObiWanShinobi, batsnacks Koshi (1) - GlowingBear | ||
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On July 25 2014 00:13 kushm4sta wrote: I thinkk obi is more subdued this game because he's not following it that close. he is either busy, has less interest, or the length of the thread is making it harder for him, or a combination But you have zero reason to think this, when the obvious answer why he isn't playing up to his normal town exuberance is that he's mafia. Like in those games where he's mafia. | ||
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Not as stupid as Xatalos, but stupid. | ||
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On July 25 2014 00:18 kushm4sta wrote: vivax, i think there's a lot more townie reasoning in that post. chopin, i townread him for a very specific reason, his townread on damdred. you can't scumread someone just on "exuberance". that is a very unsafe use of meta. a safe use of meta is seeing that he got angry in his town games when people called him scum, therefore him doing that isn't especially scummy. Thanks for telling me how to play, I really needed to be taught. I guess I just retire now. | ||
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On July 24 2014 16:38 slOosh wrote: Day 1 Votecount Xatalos (4) - Chairman Ray, HaruRH, raynpelikoneet, Navillus Navillus (2) - kushm4sta, VayneAuthority Damdred (1) - Vivax ObiWanShinobi (2) - Chopin Liszt, Xatalos VayneAuthority (1) - Palmar Vivax (4) - ObiWanShinobi, batsnacks, Koshi, Teermersu Koshi (1) - GlowingBear | ||
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On July 25 2014 00:23 kushm4sta wrote: im not confident in vivax being scum. I think it's a big mistake to lynch him today. ^ | ||
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On July 25 2014 00:24 Koshi wrote: Also. Xatalos is far from cleared. He never gave any fucking reads while being lynched. This veteran claim was maybe even too dumb to come from town. Like.... I see chopin his point. But this was so bad I still tjink Xatalos is scum. And he fucking left after that shit. No, it's so bad it can't be from mafia. That is the point. | ||
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On July 24 2014 16:38 slOosh wrote: Day 1 Votecount Xatalos (4) - Chairman Ray, HaruRH, raynpelikoneet, Navillus Navillus (4) - kushm4sta, VayneAuthority, Chopin Liszt, Xatalos Damdred (1) - Vivax VayneAuthority (1) - Palmar Vivax (4) - ObiWanShinobi, batsnacks, Koshi, Teermersu Koshi (1) - GlowingBear | ||
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On July 25 2014 00:27 Teemursu wrote: Can someone please explain me why Vivax is town. Because I have played 50+ games of mafia and never has the man with the longest filter on day 1 been mafia. | ||
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On July 25 2014 00:30 Teemursu wrote: I've played 50+ games of video mafia and an active person that's not even necessarily leading town has been mafia. What's the point? Also, my first forum mafia game I had a pretty long filter day 1 and I was mafia. This is a forum. This is not video. "pretty long" != longest. | ||
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On July 25 2014 00:32 Teemursu wrote: I don't really see too much of a difference between anything you tried to make a differentiation with. In theory, yes, in practice, not so sure. ... are you mafia | ||
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On July 25 2014 00:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Fuck this extra 25 pages bullshit, I just woke up and I've got about 25 minutes to pick a lynch. Someone give me the cliffnotes. xatalos terrible claim shit, probs town vivax long filter you might be mafia, you don't care navillus might be mafia i'm voting to save xatalos/vivax | ||
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On July 25 2014 00:36 GlowingBear wrote: ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME????? Koshi was OBVIOUSLY fishing for blue!!! Guys, use your brains! Xatalos clearly wasn't blue, he would've claimed earlier. It is ok to believe he was soft claiming but it is NOT okay to pressure vote him so he claims! Do you really can't see the implications here? To avoid getting lynched, Xatalos could've probably fake claimed under the pressure votes. A blue would see this and hard push against Xatalos, maybe even cc. Mafia gets a mislynch and get to know who is the real blue. MY GOD THIS IS NOT WIFOM THIS IS SIMPLE LOGIC!!!! no townie fakeclaims to save themself from the lynch. your logic is shit and broken we are not lynching koshi. use your vote properly. | ||
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On July 25 2014 00:40 batsnacks wrote: Also I'd like to point out rain pelican he is Deep. | ||
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BlazingHand was blue... | ||
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On July 25 2014 00:49 Koshi wrote: HOW WHERE THE VOTES? HOW MANY ON VIVAX? it wasn't close in the end. | ||
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On July 25 2014 00:50 HaruRH wrote: but you said no townies fakeclaims to survive blazinghand is a townie and fakeclaimed despite being a blue himself yeah you're not getting the point. Never mind. | ||
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On July 25 2014 00:50 Chopin Liszt wrote: yeah you're not getting the point. Never mind. I'll explain the point though because I am a nice guy. BlazingHand could claim any blue role because he was blue and knew he could not be (correctly) counterclaimed. if Xata is VT, any role he claims can be counterclaimed because he does not have the role. | ||
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On July 25 2014 00:51 Teemursu wrote: Voting Navi was so fucking retarded, even Palmar said that Navi picked up his play after the case. Holy shit. Palmar's last words were that Navillus was mafia. Stop it. | ||
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On July 25 2014 00:52 HaruRH wrote: I hoped you realise your reasons are shit. I can at least feel a bit of relief from you trying to save vivax, but that xata save was very unwarranted, with terrible logic. No, you are just not good enough to understand. | ||
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On July 25 2014 00:56 GlowingBear wrote: That's exactly why I say koshi was pushing Xatalos for. So he could get a fake claim out of pressure. This is not math, you can't be sure no vt will fake claim to get himself saved. Koshi Teemu Chopin Also, Haru, you're on my scum radar. Come on, posting WOW NAVI GOT LYNCHED INSTEAD WTF a minute after night post is not okay. Battery is running flat. I'll be back in a couple of hours It never happens... | ||
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On July 25 2014 00:58 GlowingBear wrote: LOL gg replace me. I have no more patience to this. Everyone needs to calm the fuck down. What Xatalos said isn't even remotely out of line. Seriously everyone. | ||
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On July 25 2014 01:04 GlowingBear wrote: I can't stand having people calling "ridiculous ideas" what is actually decent logic. You may believe that a vt would never fake claim, that's fine. But saying that it does not have decent reasoning, I give up. People rather say "oh this is not his meta" like you guys are inside Friends sitcom "HAHAHAHA THIS IS NOT LIKE JOEY LOLOLOLOLOL" You need to not play mafia if you are considering replacing out because someone said your idea is ridiculous. Man up. | ||
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On July 25 2014 01:06 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Guys. Where the fuck did rayn go? Good question. Apparently he likes to post twice in Twitterverse and not here. ... I don't know what to think. He seemed very townrayn while he was here, but it's a negligent disregard for this game :/ | ||
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On July 25 2014 01:31 batsnacks wrote: I would really like to see a final vote count if that's not too much to ask. Day 1 Final Votecount Xatalos (4) - Chairman Ray, HaruRH, raynpelikoneet, Navillus Navillus (8) - kushm4sta, VayneAuthority, Chopin Liszt, Xatalos, Vivax, Damdred, ObiwanShinobi, GlowingBear VayneAuthority (1) - Palmar Vivax (3) - batsnacks, Koshi, Teermersu | ||
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On July 25 2014 02:05 Vivax wrote: Hi. Wanted to ask you about this. i read it and it looked terrible because he was: a) talking to koshi like koshi was confirmed town previously ("hey koshi we need to lynch between obi/damd if not xata") b) a complaint straight after someone had switched their vote to one of the names he wanted to lynch | ||
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you say that I was talking to Koshi about who we should lynch because he was the only person at the time I found myself agreeing with a lot of his posts. The spot where I was with Koshi, Viv, GB and Xata, Koshi seemed to be the town in the spot while I had to re-evaluate who I wanted to lynch. If you think I'm mafia because I read someone as strongly town and wanted to hear his opinion. but then later appear like this read never existed when you state:On July 24 2014 23:09 Teemursu wrote: I feel like the only hope for me to win this game/figure this game out is if Koshi is town. talking to people the way you did, with such confidence about alignment and then stating that you don't actually have this confidence at all shows a contradiction in your mindset towards what you just said there's also the fact that you berate people for voting navi based on what another person in the game said (Palmar, which wasn't actually what he said at all) On July 25 2014 00:49 Teemursu wrote: Great fucking job, town. So fucking good. Why the fuck did people move on to Navi? On July 25 2014 00:51 Teemursu wrote: Voting Navi was so fucking retarded, even Palmar said that Navi picked up his play after the case. Holy shit. but then in the next instance you interact with Palmar you don't trust anything he says and actually: On July 25 2014 01:23 Teemursu wrote: Thing is, that person won't die since you're not doing shit in this game. + Show Spoiler + On July 25 2014 01:26 Teemursu wrote: I regret not switching my vote back to you. Why are you playing this game? call him mafia and you want to lynch him there's a few things like that that i've kind of seen throughout your filter that don't make sense when you look at them together and actually makes you very likely mafia | ||
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On July 25 2014 04:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like you literally believe me or not. Which is it? One answer makes me 100% mafia, another one does not. What kind of silly question is this? If you want me to throw a coin to answer just tell me. | ||
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On July 25 2014 05:46 Koshi wrote: marv called me scum and I have a 10 page filter. I know he is scum. Chopin said no such thing. Please refer to my pretty coloured list for what my last read on you was. Holyflare will be given beatings until morale improves. Chopin | ||
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On July 25 2014 06:40 Teemursu wrote: Wait, this is interesting. Are you agreeing with Viv about me being mafia now, or was it Holyflare/Liszt? Jesus christ. If he hasn't been back since I've been posting and i posted all the stuff about your then it's clearly me. Also rayn I've posted stuff about people bitching at deadline you should read it. -hf | ||
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On July 25 2014 06:43 Teemursu wrote: Not true. I think it's highly likely that there are mafia in Chopin, Viv, Koshi and others would say me, but I know I am town. Viv and Chopin's hydra have been going pretty hard against me and hydra now based off of those interactions. Some people kinda pushed others to vote on Nav, who was a miss, and I want to look into that more d2, off to sleep soon and I don't really have the energy for that. It was HF who was scumreading you. But unlike with the Koshi thing, there are no beatings for that one from me. Primarily because you're pushing so hard/repeatedly about the people on Navillus being suspicious for doing so, when that only makes sense if the alternative(s) are mafia, which I don't think they are. Pushing the idea is ridiculous until you've resolved the alignments of the alternative wagons. Chopin | ||
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On July 25 2014 06:43 Teemursu wrote: Not true. I think it's highly likely that there are mafia in Chopin, Viv, Koshi and others would say me, but I know I am town. Viv and Chopin's hydra have been going pretty hard against me and hydra now based off of those interactions. Some people kinda pushed others to vote on Nav, who was a miss, and I want to look into that more d2, off to sleep soon and I don't really have the energy for that. If this is the case why are you blindly throwing out blanket statements regarding people being mafia instead of refuting the cases made on you? Why is koshi now in your mafia containing list after you said he was your super town person? | ||
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On July 25 2014 06:52 Teemursu wrote: You seem to make much more sense than HolyFlare. Could you just cut his head off and continue playing this as solo?` Thing is, I'm not calling out everyone who voted on Navi yet, I just think it wasn't a good lynch at all. Even if you don't think that Viv is mafia, we probably should've lynched either Damdred or Obi (in hindsight, which isn't really a great way to look at things). You don' t think any of the alternative wagons are mafia? Regardless of Navi getting ML'd and the people wagoning on him? Liszt was always a more capricious composer than Chopin, whose melodies were sweeter than strawberries. Navillus was a good lynch compared to Xatalos and Vivax I think. Compared to Obi or Damdred - perhaps not. Unfortunately townies aren't blessed with perfect information and foresight... I voted Nav purely because no-one was getting on Obiwan and Nav wasn't a bad lynch compared to xata or Vivax. Chopin | ||
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On July 25 2014 07:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: ehhhh.. If you read Koshi town why do you read him as scum? Exactly the point | ||
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A) i am reading vivax as mafia because: B) i am reading koshi as town because: | ||
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Can you stop being a selfish dick for 5 seconds and explain things without using the words terrible, quitting or vivax? All you've talked about is how teemu is so town and don't acknowledge anything that's said about him whatsoever and instead say we're all shit for mafia reading him instead. Grow up this game doesn't revolve around your asinine baseless rants. If you want people to listen talk things through and convince people because as it stands you're looking terrible for not doing that. | ||
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It also implies that you are switching your reads to opportunistically bolster your attack on vivax and that when you've done that you later renege on this switch to leave your options open a la damd scum read. Finally you berate chopin for not scum reading vivax but you had us as your scum read too which implied you knew we were town. All 3 of those things are mafia things. (well 2 if you imply your sheep thing was a joke) | ||
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On July 25 2014 08:12 Koshi wrote: 1) What reads? I fucking didn't change a single read except marv. And I am pretty sure I didn't know it was marv till he did the sucking asshole thing. And he had a 4 page filter when he did that. Somewhere there I gave him a bit more space. Even called him a bad lynch right after I put him as scum in my list. Still it is 1 person I swap around on a bit. It's not scummy at fucking all. And you don't know shit. Also marv is calling me fucking town. Like full green town. Where do you Mr. Fucking AFK the entire game go against your other hydra head? Siding with marv his very slight townread against his fucking full green townread. 2) So town never berates a scumread for not wanting to lynch another scumread? It's impossbile to do or something? AND 1+2) I ONLY DID THIS WITH MARV. BECAUSE HE IS MARV. So the entire case stands with I talk to marv as if he is scum and I talk to marv as if he is town. VERY FUCKING SCUMMY. Why do I have to follow a read just because my hydra head thinks it's true. What kind of terrible logic koshi am I dealing with here? Your damd read goes through weird swings of him being do not lynch town list to lynch again when he doesn't provide more info. You use it to attack vivax here: On July 24 2014 22:15 Koshi wrote: Damdred is doing absolutely nothing just like he was doing absolutely nothing in Storm 2. Vivax knows that he did nothing in Storm 2. Still he pushes Damdred for doing nothing here. Vivax, What is the difference between Damdred in Storm 2 and here? Bear in mind if he's done NOTHING this game like storm you effectively town read him for doing nothing but then you agree with teemu when he wants to lynch obi/damd And also say if damd continues to do nothing/leave you'd lynch him (even though you're town reading him for doing the thing you state you will lynch him for). On July 24 2014 22:44 Koshi wrote: Damdred If you leave I will lynch you. After this post you ask a question to damd but then when he responds you drop it entirely and don't even care about his response at all. You then add him to your question of who to lynch to VA. On July 24 2014 23:54 Koshi wrote: So who is scum or the best lynch out of Vivax/Damdred/Obiwan/Xatalos If you don't feel like going for 4 names. Just say Vivax is scum. To surmise what vivax wrote was entirely true. You town read damd to attack vivax and then scum read him when the lynch was around to keep your options open. You didn't try and interact with him after your initial question but still added him to a lynch list despite him responding to you and talking. | ||
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On July 25 2014 08:24 Koshi wrote: It doesn't matter. CL can't be lynched. You need to lynch him D3 if he is still alive. Then just lynch him and don't think twice. With 700nk marv always dies. If you entertain the idea of marv being scum. Look at the ideas he pushed in the thread. Like the Xatalos townread because Xatalos claimed veteran to bait a scumshot. Look at the list he made with his scumreads. And for the love of God ignore everything Holyflare posts because that guy probably shit and puked his brains out. He is 100% retarded and thinks he can bully newbies while not even reading the thread. You're so fucking rude it's actually depressing. I spent so much of my time actually keeping up with the thread so that my reads would be up to date when i cane back and I'm posting logical shit based on events in this game and my opinions on them and you denounce everything i say as useless trash and you should just ignore me? Same pretty much goes to teemersu who ignores every question i throw at him and says i shouldn't even be playing. So bm. Let me know when someone actually wants to play mafia in this thread. | ||
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On July 25 2014 08:52 Koshi wrote: And both Teemu and me spend even more time than you and you fucking shit on me while you were back siding with Vivax. And then you are rude towards Teemu saying he should be "respecting vets". And I think only then I came after you. Maybe a bit earlier because you are like Teemu said completely fucking useless. Where on earth was i rude to him and told him to respect vets? All I've done is point out things I've seen in the thread. Who cares if you've spent all that time beforehand playing, I'm here trying to figure things out and vivax's case is very sheepable, i even just talked through why and i explained my side of the argument but here you are yet agajn yelling that I'm being useless. Ok koshi. Go away. | ||
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On July 25 2014 09:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: I assumed he asked me if i think GB is town or scum. I might be bad at reading posts but FUCKING TELL ME WHAT I HAVE RESPONDED TO and not say "you said he is town and you said he is mfia blablanandnbsolfdå,ö" fuck.- sio hard. gn. No you said unless all martyrs are scum. Koshi said should it be all martyrs are town. I don't know why he said that because that would flip around the start of your sentence too but he asked it nonetheless. Your replied that it should be town making it look like you typod the first one but then yelled at koshi for some reason that i don't understand either. | ||
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On July 25 2014 09:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: i don't even know what i said and idgaf. lynch me for it. tomorrow. ..... I have no words | ||
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On July 25 2014 09:42 Koshi wrote: Why would it be: GB is town except when all maryrs and shit are scum. isn't this more logical GB is town except when all maryrs and shit are town. (Because that would make it possible GB is scum) Like... This discussion is completely retarded but rayn is scumreading me for saying it should be option 2. Maybe I don't understand the word unless or something. He's saying gb is being a martyr which probably means he's town unless martyrs are usually scum (in which case he'd be scum) That's why i asked rayn how gb was being a martyr. | ||
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My dear friends, there is evil among us, But even knowing this, even thus Outside this game, we are friends one and all A mutual respect for this pursuit, let us not fall into this animosity, this anger, this fuss On July 25 2014 11:11 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: As you can see, I got home about 10 hours later. Now I don't know if rayn is being hyperbolic, but I think a twenty-minute adjustment is much easier than having to suspend the game for at least 9 hours (and possibly extend night another 24), and possibly more if there were any other problems at the end. No. 20 minutes early is 100x worse than 10 hours late. Or just PM some random dude alignments on TL to put up nightpost. On July 25 2014 08:05 Koshi wrote: And how is nobody taking any responsibility or even analyzing this incredible shitty Navillus lynch? There wasn't a case on Navillus except the one from Palmar that I fucking destroyed. Like how the fuck can Navillus get lynched out of fucking nowhere? I am traveling home and suddenly Navillus gets marv, Xatalos and Vivax on him. With fucking Kush & VA already on him. And then the fucking hosts decides that is the perfect time to give a 10 minute warning the game is over and 3 more retards vote Navillus without thinking twice. Like... There hasn't been a single case on Navillus since the one from Palmar that I destroyed but w.e let's lynch this guy. Even though he made a couple big posts since then that looked extremely town. Yeah wait, I already said he was 100% town. No need to repeat this shit for the shitters. But the funny part is. I AM THE ONE GETTING THE MOST FLAK FROM SHITTERS LIKE VIVAX BECAUSE NAVILLUS FLIPPED TOWN. BECAUSE I DEFENDED NAVILLUS AND WAS RIGHT. HOW THE LIVING FUCK?? HOW???? DID I MISS ALL THE FUCKING CASES ON NAVILLUS OR SOMETHING? WHERE ARE THEY? Nav got lynched because he was a last minute alternative to wagons that were worse. That's all. I was quite explicit why I said Xatalos was town. This is one of those inevitable cases where a bunch of people go "Oh Chopin, you handsome fellow, your logic is terrible, you're not supposed to be this bad! Sup?" and in the end I turn out to be right about it, as always. Maybe Vayne remembers Order mafia. My main/only regret from the lynch is that i didn't convince people to switch to Obi rather than Navillus. Chopin | ||
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On July 25 2014 19:21 Vivax wrote: Teemu ran away when I was trying to bring the argument to an objective level, since he just complained I didn't. Did I do anything wrong? Your only crime was caring too much. | ||
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On July 25 2014 20:35 Vivax wrote: Assume for a moment that ObiWan can be town, too. Why would scum want to lynch him over Navi when either choice doesn't hurt them at all. I'm reading along. Not exactly sure what you're asking here. Obiwan wagon came before Navillus and never got more than 3 votes, Navillus ended with 8. Chopin | ||
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On July 25 2014 20:53 Vivax wrote: I'm not saying mafia preferred navi over Obi, that's what Xata is saying in the argumentation for Obi being scummy. So it should be directed at him. no you're not getting it. Navi got 8 votes ez pz. Obi wan got 3 votes with me pushing it and that wagon happened first. Based on this alone, Obiwan looks worse, unless someone can think of why mafia would particularly be happy with Navillus and not Obiwan. Because otherwise Obiwan should have got more than 2-3 votes. You're the one asking Xatalos why it makes Obiwan mafia for lynching Navillus, but if you're saying Obiwan is town, then you have to explain why he hardly got any votes. Although if Obiwan is mafia that makes Teermersu much less likely to be mafia I think. Hmm. Interesting. Chopin | ||
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The Xatalos case is not so clear as ritoky to me, if only because it's a bit less ridiculous. But it was still quite ridiculous and I am still pretty sure I am right. Chopin | ||
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I didn't mean it how you are interpreting it. Chopin | ||
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On July 25 2014 21:04 Vivax wrote: By that logic Damdred is also scum though. Felt like a guy who got a lot of resistance to his lynch, even moreso than Obi in my opinion. But I don't wanna use that logic, cause I don't know who scum is and where they piled up preferentially. We need post analysis and not that. Yes of course. But wagons and how they formed and didn't form is still useful information also. Chopin | ||
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On July 25 2014 22:06 Vivax wrote: I told you he's not this insane as town, and you can go read Storm mafia for confirmation. Even when he thought I was scum he didn't scream it like a monkey, he simply said that if Damdred flipped town, he would have to get me lynched, he died the following night, I still got lynched. When he has to bring his point across without writing a proper case but pushing his agenda like an overconfident Hooligan, you know he's scum. None of this makes sense Vivax. Chopin | ||
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I am always right when I am certain. Literally always. It's like the thing I learnt to do this year. Like there are so many players who guarantee this or that or say people are 100% alignments and more often than not they are wrong. But when I do that, they are the alignment I say. Because I am Chopin. Chopin | ||
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On July 25 2014 22:16 Teemursu wrote: Are you certain about my alignment? Am I town or mafia? Only Koshi and Xatalos are within the bounds of certainty for me. | ||
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On July 25 2014 22:16 Vivax wrote: Yours is a Dogma, mine is an observation when I compare his play with Storm play and the attitude he has towards me when pushing for my lynch. People can choose to follow the dogma, or to follow the empiry. Enforcing your point with authority is a rhetoric strategy that isn't based on logic. Science bitch. My correctness is based on empirical evidence. Your observation is ridiculous, because people going insane and mass posting are almost never mafia. The fact his play is not similar to his townplay in Storm is irrelevant. It's even FURTHER away from his mafia play. And the differences exhibited are more likely to come from town and you should know that. I don't like that you're pushing this idea like this at all tbh. Chopin | ||
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On July 25 2014 22:23 Vivax wrote: Call me scum then, Koshi still is. You have a 16 page filter though. I think you're just being stupid. Chopin | ||
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On July 25 2014 22:28 Xatalos wrote: I really hope there's at least some scum among the people pushing to get me lynched. "at least some" scum? There's probably 12 that were pushing you I reckon. | ||
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On July 25 2014 22:29 Vivax wrote: Chopin since you feel his play is so different from his scum play then I'm certain you can back it up. Cause what Xata has shown about GoT is empirical evidence as opposed to you just making blank statements. No, because i'm just right, sorry. Not wasting my time on fool's errands. Chopin | ||
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On July 26 2014 01:10 Koshi wrote: I am 100% a prepared Passenger. 100% MARV? I don't even know why we'd talk about it, silly. Now I got over the funnies, I am sad that my 100% rayn-reading record went up in smoke. | ||
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On July 26 2014 01:13 Koshi wrote: Why would you say something like that then? So what happens tomorrow when there is 1 veteran already flipped and two townie looking people with veteran claims? What do mafia do with their shot(s)? | ||
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On July 26 2014 01:15 Xatalos wrote: It's lucky that someone shot rayn since I was pretty sure that he was town already. ^ | ||
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On July 26 2014 01:18 Vivax wrote: Cool story but between you and Koshi it's not hard to think that his claim is more likely. Are you actually this stupid? :/ | ||
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I take that back. I misunderstood. | ||
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Not even "new player". When I can confirm myself as blue/town I am even cockier than usual. There is one game reasonably recently (i forget which) where I was blue and just trolled all day 1 because I knew I could always confirm myself as town. Not saying you were trolling mind you. | ||
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On July 26 2014 01:23 Teemursu wrote: That's fine. Is it just me or am I noticing a change in your tone? to you? | ||
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Let's say there is, and let's say it's not difficult to understand why that might be the case? | ||
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On July 26 2014 01:31 GlowingBear wrote: I don't believe your claim, but I'll wait for your contact by night. If it doesn't happen you are confirmed mafia. Don't you even think of contacting anybody else. I want people to remember Teemu's promise. Are you serious right now? | ||
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On July 26 2014 01:31 Vivax wrote: But honestly it's much more fun to see marv squirming. You should vote marv. You've never even seen me squirm. | ||
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On July 26 2014 01:32 Vivax wrote: Bitch please we got a fuckload of time. Your wagon is the shit and scum will be flies. So keep spreading that game winning odour. No-one will vote me because I am town. So I don't understand what you're doing here. | ||
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No matter if it is just for "fun" | ||
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On July 26 2014 01:46 Teemursu wrote: So, who the fuck shot Rayn? Would like that brotha from anotha motha confirmed town to work with me. Smart money is on Vayne | ||
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On July 26 2014 05:02 Koshi wrote: I voted him at the start of the day for it. I think it is strange he did it thinking nobody would ever cc and then scum would be panicking during N2. Hardly panicking. Or I don't think I'd have said HF didn't have a vest ^_^ | ||
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If Koshi isn't clever enough (or whoever it was) then no harm done. | ||
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Then these claims made me even more confused. Why does Vayne claim a shot as mafia if he knows a townie did it and he will get cc? Why does batsnacks counterclaim as mafia, at best going 1 for 1? What's going on? Chopin | ||
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On July 26 2014 07:31 GlowingBear wrote: Vayne could be trying to take a nightshot from the actual vigi. Actual vigi claims and fucks vayne's strategy. Sorry, what? | ||
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On July 26 2014 07:32 Koshi wrote: I would say that is a really dumb idea but marv did the same thing so w.e it's not really the same at all though. | ||
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batsnacks claimed his rolename, right? VA needs to claim his. | ||
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so we just need to see what VA claims his role is. easy. | ||
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On July 26 2014 07:38 GlowingBear wrote: OOOOPS EBWOP: you're not considering that it wasn't only a claim. Both claimed shooting rayn. Too much of a coincidence. it's totally irrelevant there are 5 named blues if they both claim different named blues and noone else counterclaims them, then the coincidence is true. It's that simple. | ||
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1. HaruRH 2. Koshi 3. teemursu 4. Chopin Liszt 5. VayneAuthority 6. raynpelikoneet 7. ObiWanShinobi 8. Navillus 9. GlowingBear 10. kushm4sta 11. Chairman Ray 12. Vivax 13. Xatalos 14. batsnacks 15. Damdred 16. Palmar | ||
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so 7 unconfirmed including me, so 6 from my perspective. And one blue left in those, so 5 left. | ||
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from least scummy to most scummy. ##Vote: ObiwanShinobi | ||
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On July 25 2014 04:54 Damdred wrote: Honestly i should of stayed on xata it probably wouldn't of mattered with all of the late votes because i think xata is either plaing bad town or mafia his refusing to claim until the last minute when it woyld be to late his overall disinterest in trying to save himself...his reasoning trying to get scum to use a kp on him? What was that why would scum use a kp on him when if he's town he's good lynch bait... and anyone can claim vt. I should of pushed xata more after he responded to my initaial post but not the latter really i should of stayed on him... However deadline getting pushed made me lose my head a bit. Koshi is obviously tunneling you at this point and to be frank i don't dee you as scum at this point from how your playing now and how you've played as scum before. I could honestly see teem being scum honestly. Sometimes he gets defensive over questions refuses to give simple answers and when he does give answers they sometimes miss the point. His bits about town doing badly was odd at the moment as its been mentioned before town was doing what he wanted. He shouldn't be so sure of koshis alignment. at some points . had to switch to phone so ill be sloqer at this point Often when this is snuck in to a post rather than said blatantly to people's faces, the guy is mafia. So I guess Obiwan/Damdred is my best guess. Obiwan keeps doing this pop in -> mumble a bit -> disappear thing that seems to fit right into his mafia play though. | ||
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unless vivax is playing the absolute mafia game of his life. all assuming both the vigi claims come true of course. | ||
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On July 26 2014 08:12 VayneAuthority wrote: I thought batsnacks town read me, i knew he was the real vig zz. why would I claim fake shot as mafia with only 2 mafia left? I rescind the claim. based on what? | ||
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On July 26 2014 08:17 VayneAuthority wrote: when everyone is sleeping we speak sweet nothings to each other and a serious answer? | ||
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his plan is what? claim, wait for the real vigi to claim, then unclaim? how does that help him at all? you might go "but wifom dear friend, wifom!" the problem with that is, townies will regularly lynch people for doing what Vayne did. Vayne lynched a townie just like that himself in Order. So it still doesn't make sense. | ||
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On July 26 2014 08:22 Chairman Ray wrote: I don't believe you. When you fakeclaim, you give the real vig no choice but to counterclaim. Did you truly expect a different outcome? .......? Abd this works in mafias favour how? | ||
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On July 26 2014 09:03 Koshi wrote: HF. Please stop coming into this thread and push mafia agenda. It is getting ridiculous. I'm tired of you being a useless fuck. Just get out. It's actually appalling that you are town because all you've done is insukt me when I've done nothing that requires that response. You even want to lynch VA when him claiming vig is the most retarded shit to do as mafia ever. | ||
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People in this day have already exclaimed that Palmar was dropping blue claims. Nobody would switch to obi and you certainly wouldn't if marv/vivax were on it Only silly people don't understand the overwhelming downside to that fake claim as mafia | ||
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On July 27 2014 04:37 Chopin Liszt wrote: Read page 8-10 of my filter and wonder if i really deserved it | ||
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On July 27 2014 04:42 Koshi wrote: You came in after the lynch and shamelessly pushed every townie you could find. I came in when i stopped puking blood and kept myself up to date so i could post information. Please enlighten me where my posts were garbage/trash/fucking useless/terrible/to ignore everything i say in the pages i was active of 8-10. | ||
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Everyone is pushing the VA scummy thing but for some reason the scum play 1000x outweighs the more than likely town play. If batsnacks had any thought about reading this game he could have not claimed, mafia wouldn't know who vig was and batsnacks could claim if va didn't die. If va did die he could have easily real claimed then too. So why is it that cr et al vekieve the really farfetched mafia play instead? In fact koshi linked all these fake claims and they all ended up being fake rb's which is nothing like this but multiple ppl lapped it up. Also the poimt about rayn calling obi an asshole is so terrible because it's contained in one sentence and then completely dropped. Obi also never follows up his scum read on rayn and totally is playing to world cup standard of doing nothing. He was on waves stream instead of playing here too a day or two ago. He is disinterested. | ||
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On July 27 2014 05:20 Xatalos wrote: HF, you there? i'm here why? | ||
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On July 26 2014 09:55 Chopin Liszt wrote: Kush was the only person that openly said that you shouldn't town read rayn. He even questioned you. Rayn is now confirmed mafia. People in this day have already exclaimed that Palmar was dropping blue claims. Nobody would switch to obi and you certainly wouldn't if marv/vivax were on it Only silly people don't understand the overwhelming downside to that fake claim as mafia | ||
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On July 26 2014 07:46 Chopin Liszt wrote: oops should have coloured Haru green also. so 7 unconfirmed including me, so 6 from my perspective. And one blue left in those, so 5 left. On July 26 2014 07:47 Chopin Liszt wrote: Chopin - Xatalos - Vivax - Glowing - CR/Damdred - Obiwan from least scummy to most scummy. ##Vote: ObiwanShinobi there's also no such thing as "going for lynchbait", lynchbait is the most terrible arguement you can ever use when there's so many confirmed people going around especially when it's late in this game. There's 6 (7 with VA rescinding) people to lynch between and picking 1 or 2 of them = lynch bait? No. You're being bad. | ||
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On July 27 2014 06:46 Xatalos wrote: Please try to ignore Koshi and focus. You might well get lynched today and if you're town, it's not the time to pick fights. nah thanks i'm done | ||
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