• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 09:54
CET 14:54
KST 22:54
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy5ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289
Community News
Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool32Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win42026 KungFu Cup Announcement6BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains18
StarCraft 2
General
Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Potential Updates Coming to the SC2 CN Server Weekly Cups (March 2-8): ByuN overcomes PvT block Weekly Cups (August 25-31): Clem's Last Straw? Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win
Tourneys
World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WardiTV Team League Season 10 KSL Week 87
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 517 Distant Threat Mutation # 516 Specter of Death Mutation # 515 Together Forever
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos ASL21 General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Gypsy to Korea JaeDong's form before ASL
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL22] Open Qualifiers & Ladder Tours Small VOD Thread 2.0 IPSL Spring 2026 is here!
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Mexico's Drug War
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Cricket [SPORT] Formula 1 Discussion Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2036 users

IV Titanic Mafia: It Has Been a Privilege - Page 3

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 13 14 15 Next All
Chopin Liszt
Profile Joined July 2014
United States304 Posts
July 23 2014 13:05 GMT
#520
On July 23 2014 22:03 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2014 21:58 Chopin Liszt wrote:
On July 23 2014 21:52 Vivax wrote:
Somebody's getting angry.

You gonna have the balls to actually call him mafia?


read the thread

I did.
On July 23 2014 20:58 Vivax wrote:
You are hereby added to the people eligible for lynch. Fend yourself as you see fit.

That's as close as you got, despite your many posts on the issue.
Bach to the basics.
Chopin Liszt
Profile Joined July 2014
United States304 Posts
July 23 2014 13:14 GMT
#522
On July 23 2014 22:08 Teemursu wrote:
Your case is so weak at this point and the fact you're harping on the fact that I was asking questions makes me think you're either mafia trying to push a miss lynch or bad town, in which case you should just let your hydra partner play solo from now on, which would also make it easier for me to read you.

+1 townie point.

Chopin
Bach to the basics.
Chopin Liszt
Profile Joined July 2014
United States304 Posts
July 23 2014 13:39 GMT
#526
On July 23 2014 22:32 Teemursu wrote:
I also want to hear from CL about the switch from agreeing with Palmar's case on Navillus, voting on Navillus, and then asking everyone else why Navillus is being lynched and saying he has "potential" (while Nav hadn't even had time to respond yet).

Liszt and I appear to be somewhat syncopated when it comes to Navillus. I will try to align our scores.

Chopin
Bach to the basics.
Chopin Liszt
Profile Joined July 2014
United States304 Posts
July 23 2014 13:43 GMT
#527
On July 23 2014 22:38 Teemursu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2014 22:32 Vivax wrote:
Lynch today: Koshi/navi/Xata/chopin

Don't lynch: Everyone else.


Mostly agree. Why Chopin? Also could you put that list into an order of would lynch the most -> would want to lynch the least.

You agree with Vivax, little Teermursu?
In the battle royale with Koshi, you have the view
That Koshi is the evil, the bastard, the swine
and Vivax is dandy, splendid, and fine?

I tell you this, I'll make it breve
I hope this, I can achieve
It may be two fine composers, a simple misunderstandin'
but if one is malign, it is not our Belgian.

Chopin
Bach to the basics.
Chopin Liszt
Profile Joined July 2014
United States304 Posts
July 23 2014 13:51 GMT
#532
On July 23 2014 22:49 Teemursu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2014 22:39 Chopin Liszt wrote:
On July 23 2014 22:32 Teemursu wrote:
I also want to hear from CL about the switch from agreeing with Palmar's case on Navillus, voting on Navillus, and then asking everyone else why Navillus is being lynched and saying he has "potential" (while Nav hadn't even had time to respond yet).

Liszt and I appear to be somewhat syncopated when it comes to Navillus. I will try to align our scores.

Chopin

If this is how hydras play out (in terms of how hard it is to read that person) I probably will never want to play with a hydra in the same game.

Which one of you was the one who pointed out Obi's hypocrisy earlier in the game or was it Liszt?

Which one of you was the one who made their case on me and pushed on it?

Is every post that isn't signed by Chopin made by Liszt?

I'm so confused.

Liszt, Liszt, no.

Liszt's posts should be obvious now that he has revealed himself as the famed mafia player, Holyflare.

Chopin
Bach to the basics.
Chopin Liszt
Profile Joined July 2014
United States304 Posts
July 23 2014 14:10 GMT
#539
On July 23 2014 23:06 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2014 22:38 Teemursu wrote:
On July 23 2014 22:32 Vivax wrote:
Lynch today: Koshi/navi/Xata/chopin

Don't lynch: Everyone else.


Mostly agree. Why Chopin? Also could you put that list into an order of would lynch the most -> would want to lynch the least.


I'd rather focus on Koshi and navi for today. A bit more unsure about the other two. Regarding chopin, I got bad vibes from that last question since he implies I didn't say clearly enough that I thought Koshi was mafia when it was there for him to read, so it's a bit of guts and animosity and not a fully fleshed out read based on analysis yet.

Yes, and I was correct... You skirted around it while Koshi went directly at your throat.

Chopin
Bach to the basics.
Chopin Liszt
Profile Joined July 2014
United States304 Posts
July 23 2014 14:13 GMT
#543
On July 23 2014 23:11 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2014 23:10 Chopin Liszt wrote:
On July 23 2014 23:06 Vivax wrote:
On July 23 2014 22:38 Teemursu wrote:
On July 23 2014 22:32 Vivax wrote:
Lynch today: Koshi/navi/Xata/chopin

Don't lynch: Everyone else.


Mostly agree. Why Chopin? Also could you put that list into an order of would lynch the most -> would want to lynch the least.


I'd rather focus on Koshi and navi for today. A bit more unsure about the other two. Regarding chopin, I got bad vibes from that last question since he implies I didn't say clearly enough that I thought Koshi was mafia when it was there for him to read, so it's a bit of guts and animosity and not a fully fleshed out read based on analysis yet.

Yes, and I was correct... You skirted around it while Koshi went directly at your throat.

Chopin


Semantics you are arguing about, when I say a guy is eligible for lynch then it's hardly cause I think he's town.

'Semantics' of this sort are exactly how you differentiate between town and mafia.

Town are blunt and to the point most of the time. Koshi was a good deal blunter and to the point than you were. I don't understand how you cannot see this.

Chopin
Bach to the basics.
Chopin Liszt
Profile Joined July 2014
United States304 Posts
July 23 2014 15:10 GMT
#578
On July 24 2014 00:08 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2014 23:45 Koshi wrote:
On July 23 2014 23:44 Xatalos wrote:
On July 23 2014 23:38 Koshi wrote:
On July 23 2014 23:37 Xatalos wrote:
Hmm... I'm starting to think that Vivax might be town after all. He's stayed pretty active and involved for a while now.

LoL
As if scum would give up in this setup. Are you for real?
What kind of dumb logic is this Xatalos?


Last time I saw Vivax as scum, he truly didn't seem to care about much of anything and was very lurky. But in this game, at least recently, he's maintained a good amount of activity and his posts have also felt reasonably constructive. I checked some of his past games earlier and it seems like he's considerably more active and involved as town - more fitting with his recent play, whereas earlier he was more apathetic.

Vivax can care. We seen it in the last Storm mafia 2. Or when he replaced into some game as well. Anyway. Don't be fooled.


Oh yeah, to this: in any case, it's not a good idea to lynch him now since if he's scum, he's bound to become apathetic at some point.

If someone is mafia, it's always a good idea to lynch them now.
Bach to the basics.
Chopin Liszt
Profile Joined July 2014
United States304 Posts
July 23 2014 16:16 GMT
#632
On July 24 2014 01:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Kush is mafia for thinking that I'm mafia for no reason.

##unvote
##vote Kush



Is this real?
Bach to the basics.
Chopin Liszt
Profile Joined July 2014
United States304 Posts
July 23 2014 17:11 GMT
#680
On July 24 2014 01:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Cooks.com says 2.

Also, I still want to know why kush thinks I'm mafia.

Is he actually your strongest read or do you just want answers? Proper answer please.
Bach to the basics.
Chopin Liszt
Profile Joined July 2014
United States304 Posts
July 23 2014 20:01 GMT
#814
##Unvote
##Vote: batsnacks


1. No-one has mentioned him really (except Koshi calling him town for colors)
2. He's not done anything but has a reasonable number of posts
3. Just staring at the playerlist my eye kept getting drawn here. This makes him very likely mafia.

Looking at his towngames, he has wonky accusations that he follows through strongly. In his most recent game he was mafia and struggled to be at all productive.

Thank you for listening.

Chopin
Bach to the basics.
Chopin Liszt
Profile Joined July 2014
United States304 Posts
July 23 2014 20:05 GMT
#818
On July 24 2014 05:02 Teemursu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 04:58 kushm4sta wrote:
teemersu, are you familiar with his meta?
shitcontent is null for him.

I'm not familiar with anyone's meta and I don't care about anyone's meta.

He is not posting.
He is not contributing.
His only "meaningful", single, post is scum indicative.

If he actually is town, he is not going to be an asset to town.
If he is actually town, he is going to be a huge questionmark later.
If he is town, he is mafia siding HARD.
Lynching him today is PRO TOWN.


In your newbie game you went after people for quite superficial reasons. It feels like you're doing the same here, although I'm struggling to tell whether that's because you're the same alignment or it's just the way you play that you tried to mimic in your mafia game.

Lynching a townie is never pro town. Do you actually believe this?

Chopin
Bach to the basics.
Chopin Liszt
Profile Joined July 2014
United States304 Posts
July 23 2014 20:05 GMT
#819
On July 24 2014 05:03 kushm4sta wrote:
chopin, i agree with that mafia meta, but this game he has been productive with his time in the thread, giving reads and stuff.
i would say his snr ration is pretty high actually.

is chopin or liszt hf?

Read his filter and try again.

Chopin
Bach to the basics.
Chopin Liszt
Profile Joined July 2014
United States304 Posts
July 23 2014 20:08 GMT
#821
On July 24 2014 05:06 kushm4sta wrote:
chopin also im curious how you are reading obi

Mostly left to right.

Chopin
Bach to the basics.
Chopin Liszt
Profile Joined July 2014
United States304 Posts
July 23 2014 20:10 GMT
#823
I am deadly serious.

Chopin

P.S. if I felt strongly one way or another, I would let you know.
Bach to the basics.
Chopin Liszt
Profile Joined July 2014
United States304 Posts
July 23 2014 20:11 GMT
#825
On July 24 2014 05:11 Teemursu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 05:05 Chopin Liszt wrote:
On July 24 2014 05:02 Teemursu wrote:
On July 24 2014 04:58 kushm4sta wrote:
teemersu, are you familiar with his meta?
shitcontent is null for him.

I'm not familiar with anyone's meta and I don't care about anyone's meta.

He is not posting.
He is not contributing.
His only "meaningful", single, post is scum indicative.

If he actually is town, he is not going to be an asset to town.
If he is actually town, he is going to be a huge questionmark later.
If he is town, he is mafia siding HARD.
Lynching him today is PRO TOWN.


In your newbie game you went after people for quite superficial reasons. It feels like you're doing the same here, although I'm struggling to tell whether that's because you're the same alignment or it's just the way you play that you tried to mimic in your mafia game.

Lynching a townie is never pro town. Do you actually believe this?

Chopin


Your question is dumb. It only has one correct answer. Still, he is not confirmed town. Why do you think he's townie?

Feel free to show which of the reasons that I think someone is mafia are superficial.

Of course it only has one correct answer.

Therefore why does half your post run with that assumption?

Chopin
Bach to the basics.
Chopin Liszt
Profile Joined July 2014
United States304 Posts
July 23 2014 20:19 GMT
#832
On July 24 2014 01:41 Teemursu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 00:35 VayneAuthority wrote:
this is one of those funny games where the people "scumhunting" are more likely to be scum. with 3 mafia only you have to really shit on the thread and make it unreadable or you will just lose.


The fuck? Are you... joking? This is your contribution after being asked, for example, your reason for voting on Haru, which is literally the only thing you've done in this game?

How are you expecting to win as town? If not by scumhunting, you're saying we should not post at all, throw out a half-assed non-content post about how doing towny things somehow implies being mafia?

If you're town, you still realise there's a difference between scumhunting and posting as mafia? Who is shitting the thread and how are they making it unreadable for you?

mafiamafiamafiamafiamafia
##Unvote
##Vote VayneAuthority

Re: superficial. For instance. You reach the conclusion, apparently extremely strongly here (mafiamafiamafiamafia) that Vayne is mafia for his post. Yet nowhere in your explanation do you allow for the fact that he could just be a terrible townie. You don't need meta (other than having played the game of mafia before) to know that there exist terrible townies. But there's no consideration for this here.

There are other instances too, which I'll bring up if I decide that we're going to lynch you. But that isn't the case just yet. You've posted quite a lot, which makes me wary. But your suspicions in general I don't like.

You can buy my favour by voting batsnacks the fake composer with me. Just last night I caught him trying to copy my work.

Chopin
Bach to the basics.
Chopin Liszt
Profile Joined July 2014
United States304 Posts
July 23 2014 20:30 GMT
#841
On July 24 2014 05:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Shopping your case and what you called Teemursu out just a while ago;
How do these two things go together?

I don't understand the question.

Chopin
Bach to the basics.
Chopin Liszt
Profile Joined July 2014
United States304 Posts
July 23 2014 20:34 GMT
#846
On July 24 2014 05:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
you said:
batsnacks is mafia because:
1. No-one has mentioned him really (except Koshi calling him town for colors)
2. He's not done anything but has a reasonable number of posts
3. Just staring at the playerlist my eye kept getting drawn here. This makes him very likely mafia.

then you called out Teemursu for:
"Yet nowhere in your explanation do you allow for the fact that he could just be a terrible townie. You don't need meta (other than having played the game of mafia before) to know that there exist terrible townies. But there's no consideration for this here."

How does the stuff you call batsnacks out for make him scum over the stuff you call out Teemu for?

The two are unrelated? I still don't know what you're asking.
Bach to the basics.
Chopin Liszt
Profile Joined July 2014
United States304 Posts
July 23 2014 20:34 GMT
#847
On July 24 2014 05:19 Chopin Liszt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 01:41 Teemursu wrote:
On July 24 2014 00:35 VayneAuthority wrote:
this is one of those funny games where the people "scumhunting" are more likely to be scum. with 3 mafia only you have to really shit on the thread and make it unreadable or you will just lose.


The fuck? Are you... joking? This is your contribution after being asked, for example, your reason for voting on Haru, which is literally the only thing you've done in this game?

How are you expecting to win as town? If not by scumhunting, you're saying we should not post at all, throw out a half-assed non-content post about how doing towny things somehow implies being mafia?

If you're town, you still realise there's a difference between scumhunting and posting as mafia? Who is shitting the thread and how are they making it unreadable for you?

mafiamafiamafiamafiamafia
##Unvote
##Vote VayneAuthority

Re: superficial. For instance. You reach the conclusion, apparently extremely strongly here (mafiamafiamafiamafia) that Vayne is mafia for his post. Yet nowhere in your explanation do you allow for the fact that he could just be a terrible townie. You don't need meta (other than having played the game of mafia before) to know that there exist terrible townies. But there's no consideration for this here.

There are other instances too, which I'll bring up if I decide that we're going to lynch you. But that isn't the case just yet. You've posted quite a lot, which makes me wary. But your suspicions in general I don't like.

You can buy my favour by voting batsnacks the fake composer with me. Just last night I caught him trying to copy my work.

Chopin

It's as simple as that.
Bach to the basics.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 13 14 15 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 6m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
DivinesiaTV 17
LamboSC2 0
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 52594
Sea 12041
Calm 5358
Horang2 1960
Jaedong 1581
Hyuk 997
Mini 633
EffOrt 596
Larva 455
Shuttle 429
[ Show more ]
firebathero 420
Soma 377
BeSt 374
Flash 364
Light 311
actioN 229
Rush 178
hero 152
Last 126
Pusan 90
Shine 73
Mind 68
Aegong 66
ToSsGirL 57
Hm[arnc] 56
Free 53
sorry 36
Yoon 31
Nal_rA 30
GoRush 26
910 22
IntoTheRainbow 19
zelot 15
SilentControl 13
Terrorterran 11
ivOry 8
Icarus 6
eros_byul 1
Dota 2
Gorgc5611
BananaSlamJamma191
League of Legends
JimRising 259
Counter-Strike
fl0m3377
Fnx 2780
x6flipin441
oskar75
Other Games
singsing2623
B2W.Neo936
Liquid`RaSZi749
DeMusliM429
XaKoH 399
Fuzer 185
Hui .144
Rex75
Happy2
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream65
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH390
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos4611
Upcoming Events
LAN Event
2h 6m
BSL
6h 6m
Replay Cast
19h 6m
Afreeca Starleague
20h 6m
Sharp vs Scan
Rain vs Mong
Wardi Open
22h 6m
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 3h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 20h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 20h
Soulkey vs Ample
JyJ vs sSak
Replay Cast
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
hero vs YSC
Larva vs Shine
[ Show More ]
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
KCM Race Survival
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
WardiTV Team League
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
WardiTV Team League
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Cure vs Zoun
herO vs Rogue
WardiTV Team League
5 days
Platinum Heroes Events
6 days
BSL
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
ByuN vs Maru
MaxPax vs TriGGeR
WardiTV Team League
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Jeongseon Sooper Cup
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
NationLESS Cup
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
2026 Changsha Offline CUP
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 1
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.