EPTIV Titanic Mafia: It Has Been a Privilege - Page 14
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Chairman Ray
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HaruRH
Singapore2780 Posts
Xatalos also immediately came out to present himself as town town town. Still weird. | ||
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batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
On July 23 2014 09:47 Chairman Ray wrote: It doesn't sit right with me that Xatalos made a case on himself saying that he's an asset as town, but tends to reveal himself late game if he's mafia. There's only scum motive behind saying something like this, but would scum actually say it? +1 This also concerns me: On July 23 2014 06:29 Xatalos wrote: VayneAuthority - I have some bad memories of him literally claiming scum as town, so he might be a policy lynch again, but hopefully not Damdred - could be scum based on my initial gut feeling Low hanging fruit. | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
On July 23 2014 08:55 GlowingBear wrote: If I start arguing that someone is a good scum player, it means that it's almost impossible to read the guy at any point of the game. So, the consequence would be automatically lynching that guy day1, yes, and not wait to judge. Have in mind I would never suggest this. I'm just saying that the cause-consequence he brought there isn't natural IMO. No problem in have gut feelings. The problem here is that he gives free passes for people he is not sure but got scum vibes from damdred. The way he stand regarding everyone else is completely incompatible with the gut feeling he gets from damdred. hi again! are you a girl? if yes, want to be my egirlfriend, if you are over 18? we can go on edates. we both share the interest of forum mafia so I think we probably have a lot in common. first paragraph u say it's best to automatically lynch everyone you think is good scum. Should xatalos have said "he's good scum SO LET"S LYNCH HIM!" and that would have been townie? second paragraph you are essentially arguing that since he has scum feels for damdred, he should have feels for every person in the game. Why does getting feels about 1 person mean tha the should have feels on everybody? | ||
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HaruRH
Singapore2780 Posts
On July 23 2014 09:57 kushm4sta wrote: hi again! are you a girl? if yes, want to be my egirlfriend, if you are over 18? we can go on edates. we both share the interest of forum mafia so I think we probably have a lot in common. first paragraph u say it's best to automatically lynch everyone you think is good scum. Should xatalos have said "he's good scum SO LET"S LYNCH HIM!" and that would have been townie? second paragraph you are essentially arguing that since he has scum feels for damdred, he should have feels for every person in the game. Why does getting feels about 1 person mean tha the should have feels on everybody? I understand where glowingbear is coming from. Xatalos just basically sweep you aside for lynch by stating 'yea he is a good scum so we can only know late game' which indicates no effort to catch scum. Rather, like CR pointed out, xatalos is aiming for low hanging fruits of VA and damnred. | ||
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HaruRH
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
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Damdred
15669 Posts
On July 23 2014 03:03 Xatalos wrote: ##Vote raynpelikoneet Sigh Enters thread with an odd opening no sign of real communication. On July 23 2014 05:55 Xatalos wrote: I can see what you're getting at with that comment. Both of these posts are kind of apathetic. In any case, it's not much to work with. I'm town anyways and GB could be just playing around a bit. Follows it up by defending himself and glowing, she might be town but he definitely is cool. On July 23 2014 06:16 Xatalos wrote: Koshi can look scummy during D1 as town so it's not usually a good time to lynch him. I'm generally active regardless of my alignment, and I become a (somewhat) valuable asset throughout the game as town and I tend to reveal myself more easily later on as scum (+leaving material to work with). Neither of us are ideal D1 lynches. But if someone looks and feels scummy and plays great scum in your mind why would you want to keep them around? Isn't it better if you honest think they are scum to take them out fast and not risk them swaying people against you? Bit weird talking about yourself their as well, I know you think yourself an asset but why even include the thing about the scum their? On July 23 2014 06:41 Xatalos wrote: As a sidenote, I'm extremely careful not to connect myself with my teammates as scum. You can see me bussing / semi-bussing / distancing my teammates in pretty much every game. I would never fake a friendly conversation with my teammate as scum, at least right away. This feels weird to trying to paint yourself as town by saying that you play scum one way and town another....whos to say that you don't change it up from time to time to make yourself look town? Overall I get a really odd vibe from Xatalos posts, and as others have posted he has singled out a couple of low fruit even though it hurts my pride. I'd like him to answer some before I change votes. On July 23 2014 10:28 VayneAuthority wrote: ^scum Also why Haru has seemed to be scum hunting in his posts so far. | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
##unvote ##vote Koshi | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
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ObiWanShinobi
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batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On July 23 2014 09:57 kushm4sta wrote: hi again! are you a girl? if yes, want to be my egirlfriend, if you are over 18? we can go on edates. we both share the interest of forum mafia so I think we probably have a lot in common. first paragraph u say it's best to automatically lynch everyone you think is good scum. Should xatalos have said "he's good scum SO LET"S LYNCH HIM!" and that would have been townie? second paragraph you are essentially arguing that since he has scum feels for damdred, he should have feels for every person in the game. Why does getting feels about 1 person mean tha the should have feels on everybody? Hi! I'm male but I'd love to play the girlfriend role. Buy me stuff and maybe you'll get laid  ))It's difficult for me to be clear, I realise I have some problems with it (particularly while talking in english), I'll be objective but if it's still unclear please tell me and I'll try to clarify it again. I don't say that it's best to automatically lynch everyone who I think is good scum. I actually say that, if anyone starts a phrase with "I think he's quite a good scum player", in a mafia game, I believe that the most unnatural conclusion will be "I'll have to wait to judge him". I believe that a townie will mostly pressure the good player so he can get a better analysis. Therefore, if at early day1 I start saying that someone is a good scum player, I will automatically vote for him, because (i) I can get more information from him and (ii) it's better to lynch a good scum player than a bad scum player, although this last argument is secondary and less optimal. Not what I'm saying in the last paragraph, also. I'm saying that if he has gut feelings, I'm almost sure damdred is not the only one. There are more mafias in the game. He shouldn't consider every other player scum, but why he is considering only damdred and noone else? He used a passive stance. He would say "I never played a game with this guy before" or "I need more time to read this one". Why picking damdred only? He doesn't get scum vibes from ANY other player? Do you understand what I mean? The feeling I got from his post was "I'll be as neutral as I can with every other player so I won't be the centre of attention and so people won't OMGUS me, but I'll pick someone to start a wagon and maybe get a mislynch. But I won't do that too hard, or people will turn against me day2. Maybe saying that I have gut feelings will lead someone to build a strong case against this townie". I write too much. | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
On July 23 2014 10:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote: So what do we even do? How are we supposed to start this game in earnest without policy lynching the hydra smurf? huh? There's no reason to plynch him. Judge him by his reads. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On July 23 2014 10:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Also, I have a town lean on Damdred I guess. You can start reading what people are talking about Xatalos and pick a side XD | ||
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batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
On July 23 2014 11:15 kushm4sta wrote: huh? There's no reason to plynch him. Judge him by his reads. Looks like he's getting plynch'd right now. | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
On July 23 2014 11:16 GlowingBear wrote: You can start reading what people are talking about Xatalos and pick a side XD I don't see why I should pick a side in regards to Xatalos. Nothing has happened yet that I find particularly compelling. Do you honestly believe your vote is warranted? | ||
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