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So awesome for you to join us. I really love you and I think you are the best! | ||
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On July 12 2014 06:34 IAmRobik wrote: Hi Koshi, I think we should IML marv before he gets a chance to really take control of town and give good insight. Thoughts? People are scumreading marv? Damn. This will be epic. Need to catch up. | ||
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There is like no direction in this thread. Everything is a blur. But because I am totally awesome I got this for you all: Eden seems town. ExO_ seems town. If I really have to call somebody scum I would go for Stratiform. My junior is pretty good. I am obviously new senior. Anyhoezels I need sleep. | ||
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ExO_, Vanilla town claim, and also funny. Eden junior from Robik and also made that list post. Also the joke where Robik is filthy bathwater. Hilarious stuff. And no reason to why Stratiform is town. Also does he play a lot with rayn? Cuz I don't see why rayn is town. Don't know why he knows. Also he said he may or not may be back. So scummy. ezpz | ||
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On July 12 2014 08:44 27ninjabunnies wrote: No way Koshi replaces tamburini and is town in this position. Yeah marv going to be scum. But let"s not tell him yet. | ||
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On July 12 2014 08:59 27ninjabunnies wrote: Your entrance to this game is a bit reminiscent of Normal Mini LVI, where you replaced Oats as scum. How you so sure marv is scum? Pls woman allow me to sleep it is 2 am. Also I dont know if marv is scum but good people will be. | ||
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On July 12 2014 09:03 27ninjabunnies wrote: I'm not stopping you from sleeping. Pretty sure there's a red x in the top right corner of your screen that you could easily press and get out of the thread. I already pressed that x ages ago. | ||
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I like your effort though. | ||
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On July 12 2014 14:35 GlowingBear wrote: tl;dr: I have a scumread on The Wine Team and I have suspicions on ExO, Robik and Eden that I'll cover tomorrow while filter diving. - WeDemandALawyer: Haru and GlowingBear This will not happen. I guarantee it. | ||
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Alakaslam being so negative about this thread is really odd. Never seen it before and him doing it feels scummy. | ||
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On July 13 2014 00:58 Alakaslam wrote: Idgaf you are all so blind and tunneled it is poimtless and has been once my actual content was ignored If you are referring to the case you made about Eden talking about a Scum QT I am not impressed. Give me your read on OnceKing. I for one did not remember a single post of him and it seems like he has 5 pages of filter. You might got something there. Talk to me. | ||
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HaruRh said you were scum for not shitting up the thread. And Exo was scum because he made a big post. Or it was sarcasm. I read it somewhere. | ||
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That's why I am ok with his lynch over HaruRH/GlowingBear. But I don't want to make marv and rayn mad. | ||
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On July 13 2014 01:21 sqrtofneg1 wrote: Anyone with at least half a brain should be able to see that, if they filterdive them both. I don't see it. Pls point it out. | ||
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On July 13 2014 01:26 IAmRobik wrote: He did say at least half a brain, koshi, which rules you out. I have a full brain, and I don't see it Wait. I am starting to see it. | ||
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I going to dinner now. | ||
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On July 13 2014 05:29 GlowingBear wrote: [/i][/i][/i][/i]-> About my suspicions on ExO: As I said before, my preferred method of chasing scum is looking after passivity/overly friendly behavior, although not the only one (this is the last time I'm saying this, you all know it by now). So, what raised suspicions on ExO was this particular post: + Show Spoiler + On July 12 2014 00:54 ExO_ wrote: Some thoughts: Team D- I tend to have weird hours that I can be on, and I'm not just reading the TL forums 24/7, so while I can't always be as active as robik saying I'm not doing anything now isn't really giving me a fair shake in my opinion (@27ninjabunnies). Every game I've seen 27nb in she goes around being very caustic and arrogant towards some people, and very nice to others. It seems to be regardless of her alignment. I find it to be unhelpful, as she goes off on tangents with wild accusations filled with bullshit reasoning for scum reads. What this means in terms of the game is it's hard for me to read her as mafia or town. But I think she does more to cause problems in a town, than actually help with finding scum and uniting the town players. Poofter isn't saying much and is kinda letting her get out in front. I don't know how to interpret that, but in World Cup poofter stayed kinda quiet until it came time to push me in the wrong directions. Nearly worked too  .So a null read on the team but I generally think constantly creating a toxic atmosphere for the town is a bad thing even if they are town. Team Whine Slam is posting a fuck ton of 1 liners/pictures/general nonsense (hijole?) and sqrtofneg1 is saying nothing at all. In larger games I think mafia lurking works better than in a smaller game such as this, but it's almost nothing to read off of. Will have to wait to see what they vote day 1 and what happens night 1 to really know what to think of them. Team VendettaStrada I'm not sure if they're both posting from the same account, but it looks like it's all raynpelioneet. In my limited experience here I haven't seen him before, and though he hasn't posted a fuck ton of stuff, seems townish it to me. Looks like he's contributing. Team needs a lawyer I always kinda read HaruRH scummy, he has a little bit of omgus going on, but I miss read him in world cup so it gives me pause. So I look over at glowing bear, and he hasn't said a whole lot either. Just got caught up in the Kenpachi business. But doesn't really read town to me. I lean scum here, but I'm hesitant. Team Magic Carpet Not a lot of posts from straightform just asking questions "Robik why won't u post?, Why would exo/robik not posting Day 1 not be bad for town" etc... Palmar calls out team lawyer for not posting anything of value, but I see very little of value from him at all. After reading his filter i think Palmar is the most scummy looking person so far in the thread. *scum read* Team GoodCornBadCorn Completely afk. Like 1 combined other than their /in posts. like what....? Do they not know the game is happening? No reads yet for obvious reasons Team Crotch Rocket Not a lot being said from good Karma. Eden is posting quite a bit, and seems okay. I don't think mafia are going to be quite as active as eden is being, but it could be good coaching happening. Town read for now though Team Fraud walRus Sinani saying hardly anything, OnceKing's vote on our team I think is bad: it's based on robik not playing the game, when robik has been pretty active. Hasn't really expanded on any reads and got pretty caught up in ol' kenpachi but I don't get a scum vibe from him. Null read Team M squared mderg hasn't said too much, but I've generally liked and agreed with what marv has to say. I think Town So that leaves me with Town M squared Vendetta Strata (aka how can I make a parody of that team name) Rocket Crotch Null D- Whine* Goodcornbadcorn* Fraud walRus Scum Lawyer Magic Carpet *Mostly afk So, basically, a huge post with tons of null reads and three town reads. This is, to me, being over friendly. Moreover, if you check his scum guesses, he thinks me and haru might be scums because we are not posting things with value. However, he is hesitating on us. Then, he thinks Palmar is scum for saying that we are scum for not posting anything of value. So, he is attacking Palmar for using the same logic as him. So, not a good post. This is what made him feel suspicious for me. ********* --> About my suspicions on Robik Alright, I felt Robik was suspicious because he said he wasn't going to post and then started to spam things, or that is what I felt. Something like these posts: + Show Spoiler + On July 11 2014 12:29 IAmRobik wrote: read the thread. not gonna answer this again cause i'm a lil whiney bitch On July 11 2014 12:21 IAmRobik wrote: Didn't think about that and didn't have to worry about it because when I opened my role pm I found out that I was town. On July 11 2014 16:32 IAmRobik wrote: Cause I am god-tier at reading Rayn. And on that note I'm going to bed On July 11 2014 23:51 IAmRobik wrote: Man, if I was town jr and marv was my town sr, I would be so content right now. I literally would have 0 posts in the thread On July 11 2014 23:55 IAmRobik wrote: I mean, my comment had nothing to do with the game or my reads. It was a random thought that came to my head. On July 12 2014 03:45 IAmRobik wrote: just looked into the first game. I was in it. I was town. You were medic. You didn't save me n1. Policy lynch: ##vote: oncekingworstmedicnaeuoceana http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=611&topic_id=461355 On July 12 2014 01:40 IAmRobik wrote: Man this post is so fucking scummy, but this guy is town. Don't lynch him! On July 12 2014 00:57 IAmRobik wrote: TOWNIEST POST IN THE MOTHA FUCKIN THREAD. THIS GUY IS SO FUCKING BRUTALLY TOWN. IF ANYONE VOTES TO LYNCH HIM, YOU WILL FACE MY WRATH These are quotes with Robik's sarcasm (which is really funny imo). But the thing is, looking out of context, it just seems that he wants to spam the thread. While re-reading his filters and trying to put those quotes on context, it looked like he was actually answering people. But... I don't know. Poor answers tbh. He insists to let ExO post more too much, also. And... why quoting his partner just to say "look ppl, this guy is town!". I just think that his spamming is not good, it looks suspicious to me because it just makes the thread difficult to read. Finally, I haven't seem a hard push coming from that team. That's what raised suspicions on him. But people who played with Robik before can say better if I'm being too hard on his playfulness. ********** --> About my suspicions on Eden Same as Robik. Funny but unhelpful in some posts: + Show Spoiler + On July 11 2014 11:35 Eden1892 wrote: i'm allowed to do that because i'm confirmed town On July 11 2014 11:58 Eden1892 wrote: is D short for Dumb Shit That Doesn't Matter because Team TheD isn't talking about anything else right now On July 11 2014 12:04 Eden1892 wrote: it is, i use it all the time very high salt content though, much like your post On July 11 2014 12:43 Eden1892 wrote: wow ok count 'em up there's #2 we goin to da top town ![[image loading]](http://cdn2.vox-cdn.com/assets/4636903/cockypop2.gif) On July 11 2014 14:07 Eden1892 wrote: Boy it sure is boring being a Louisiana VOLTRON Mason with bunnies and OnceKing... Ok, I'll stop here because I've made my point. But that's not the only suspicious part. I find weird his strong push on poof based on a policy, while I think poof was being sarcastic regarding Eden's claim. But even if he thought poof was scum, I think he should reason it better. His explanation was late: + Show Spoiler + On July 11 2014 11:56 Eden1892 wrote: y'all are dumb as hell smh no one is using the Kenpachi Rule this is actually the Ihcapnek Rule, where someone is scum because they believe a VT claim too quickly, not because they cast doubt on the VT claim this is much better than the Kenpachi Rule and you should all follow the Ihcapnek Rule and vote TheD Ok, so, if he thinks this policy is good, he should push hard on it, no? He didn't: + Show Spoiler + On July 11 2014 14:59 Eden1892 wrote: Sweet. I didn't actually "get the feeling" blahblah at all, actually I was starting to back off my scumread of slot TheD and bunnies' recent posts have solidified that move. We're not lynching bunnies today ##UNVOTE Team TheD ##VOTE Team FakeClaim Why? Robik is on Team FakeClaim, and Robik claimed town. Therefore he is fake claiming and therefore he is scum. Checkmate Then, suddenly, Robik is town: + Show Spoiler + On July 12 2014 06:38 Eden1892 wrote: ok i'm on page 40 everybody shut the fuck up about robik he's town this is a waste bunnies is not toxic to the thread, her questions might not always be going places and her spat with robik or whoever tf back in the 30s was silly but it doesn't matter because she is also town we're lynching sqrt today, god bless america someone read the post i highlighted in response to exo's reads and tell me how it isn't scum-motivated His scumreads flips too quickly, look what followed up: + Show Spoiler + On July 12 2014 14:34 Eden1892 wrote: trufax, ignoring Slamroot for now right now I would only be okay with killing the following teams (listed in order in 2nd post of thread): - WeDemandALawyer - Magic Computer - GoodCopBadCop - M&M of those I like Magic Computer, GoodCopBadCop and M&M the most for potential next-lynches I'm not trying to ignore your case on WeDemandALawyer, promise, it's just weird to me that none of those slots have done anything I really remember/consider important On July 12 2014 15:21 Eden1892 wrote: ok friends here is a post count thus far, each number corresponds to the teams in the OP and the parentheses numbers are each poster 1: 31 posts (020/011) 2: 36 posts (025/011) 3: 99 posts (044/055) 4: 123 posts (031/092) 5: 64 posts (043/021) 6: 21 posts (009/012) 7: 80 posts (008/072) 8: 93 posts (077/016) 9: 89 posts (011/078) 10: 91 posts (076/015) preliminary thoughts by team: - slot 1 can stay, low posting but slenderman is doing work IMO, not killing this slot - slot 2 is whatever i'll sort it out later but i would be ok killing it - slot 3 is scum, we're killing today - slot 4 is memorable as town + high-posting so we're not killing this slot - slot 5 is oddly unmemorable for >60 posts, would be okay killing - slot 6 TBD, low post count and not memorable but a lot of that is Koshi replacing in - slot 7 is confirmed town, we're never killing this slot - slot 8 is funny because robik said he wasn't gonna talk but then has a bunch of posts. also we're not killing this slot because it's memorable as town + high-posting - slot 9 is confirmed town, we're never killing this slot - slot 10 is unmemorable despite a lot of posting, would be okay killing this slot tl;dr: - slot 3 scum - slots 1, 4, 7, 8, 9 are off the table - slot 6 tbd - slots 2, 6, 10 look good, probably in that order That concludes what I found suspicious on Robik, ExO and Eden. I would like to see marv's opinion on this post. Waiting for it. ExO_: To me his list post was ExO trying to figure out the game. Which is a good thing. I didn't get the feeling he was playing nice with everybody, or on purpose being nice to everybody. I was pretty ok with it. Then after his listpost he was extremely confident against both Palmar & Marv. Wich indicates he felt strong about his reads. Also the joke with the bathwater is hilarious. Anyhoezles, Exo town. Robik: I don't get what you are saying. Robik was going to spam but didn't, how is that scummy? Then his jokes were funny but also out of context? Meh. Not good stuff. Eden: Not following a policy and going on with the game is always townie except when there is scum motivation behind not following the policy. Here it clearly wasn't. The following 2 votes are jkes. So sad you don't see the Robik vote is a 100% jokevote. So scummy that you then try to make his 'scumread" into 'townread" from Robik look scummy. Or the fact that he changed votes a lot? That's not scummy at all. Very bad stuff Anyway, Eden/ExO_are my top towns. I even feel pretty good about them. The entire game already. Glowingbear pretty scummy. | ||
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On July 13 2014 06:19 OnceKing wrote: slamroot is like almost 100% mafia can you point out any meaningful content that either of them has said the closest they come to it is spouting unjustified reads like "eden is mafia, exo is mafia" and they won't answer questions as to why. and yet even though they believe in an edenkarma/iamexo scumteam they don't think i'm town? there are too many inconsistencies. in fact they have so many posts and yet have practically said nothing and just invite people into meaningless exchanges. the only reason why people are scared to lynch them right now is because "ohhh well its slam so i dont think its that scummy" or "b-b-but people aren't defending them" -- stop that. if you're mafia with these guys the way they're acting do you actually think you can defend them? and slam has been acting scummy even compared to his usual standard as noted by robik earlier with meta references. there's just no way they can be town with the whole "i give up, nobody listens to my scumreads even though i haven't justified them, this is a mislynch" stuff. This guy is so town. Pretty sure scum can't type this on a misslynch. Or he is mafia jeebus. | ||
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On July 14 2014 00:45 Stratiform wrote: @Koshi, do you still scumread me? Yesterday I wanted to switch of you to Alakaslamroot. I didn't see the vote thread and I didn't see CR already voted them. Back then I felt "meh" about you. I still do and haven't seen anything that confirms you town. | ||
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On July 13 2014 07:01 27ninjabunnies wrote: No, I suck at using the search bar to find things like that. I only know of games we were in together. Witchcraft II Survivor Series Mafia It is always a pleasure to read more Koshi. | ||
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On July 13 2014 07:08 27ninjabunnies wrote: Also, if Slamroot flips town, tell me, what information will we gain from it? W0t? this +1000 | ||
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On July 13 2014 07:12 27ninjabunnies wrote: Alo, Eden and OKs meta read on each other is a bit weird, tho I could see why that read would be made. But they could still be mafia together. Also, where are their other halves? (Not that I can say anything, my other half is... who knows.... Lol) Robik's been pushing scum on me for poofter being afk, but doesn't even mention the fact that sinani and GK have barely posted a thing. JS 2 people call each other 100% town. Bunny calls them both scum while agreeing that the reads make sense. | ||
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On July 13 2014 07:18 27ninjabunnies wrote: Wrong. You can see who pushed hardest. You can see who defended hardest. You can also see who just sheeped. So much info gained. Wait. Is it me or what the initial question not a trick question? It was like "amagad if Slamroot dies we have nothing at all" And then Eden says 'nothing' which is correct. You can just trust their reads. That's all. On which Bunnies replies with things that contradict her first statement that nothing can be learned from this lynch. Eden town / OK town ezpz | ||
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On July 13 2014 07:22 Palmar wrote: I feel pretty confident OK's/Eden's teams are town. Everything nb says makes me want to lynch her, and the previous notion that Tehpoofter was actually playing has completely disappeared. I think their team has a good chance of flipping mafia. Then there's the other slots. Robik is a bit of a dick as usual, such a shame because he usually has good reads, but because he doesn't get that half of mafia is convincing people, he's basically useless as town most games. ExO_ on the other hand really stood up to me when I was arguing with him, I'm not willing to give him a pass on it, but he just feels too wordy and shit to be mafia. I'm going to assume they're town, Marv worries me a bit this game. I feel uneasy that he's in a decent position while having done very little, but I also know he's genuinely away, I think we let him slide today, and analyse tomorrow based on what we know. I haven't really looked into mderg's contributions. Coming up, more stuff. This is all so so true. SO TRUE. | ||
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On July 13 2014 08:58 Palmar wrote: Btw, if I self-meta my shitty town play, I reach the conclusion mafia teams must be a) chairman ray/koshi b) rayn/slender why? Because I haven't read shit from those teams as nothing they've said sounds important at all. I always ignore mafia because they never say anything fun, so if I am correct that I always ignore mafia, these teams must be mafia. QED get logickd. all lies and slander. | ||
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On July 13 2014 10:42 Stratiform wrote: Okay here's how I feel about the respective groups, as not much else is going on right now: Town: Exo/Robik- I liked ExO's list post, but he hasn't been here much from then on. Although, Exo isn't really known to be super active D1. Robik is giving reads, and going with his gut. However incorrect his read on me is, I feel like that post is coming form town. He looks like he's targeting me because I've seemed cautious/fluffy, and as town, I'm sure he'd want to pressure someone who's acting oddly to step up and act town. Sinani/OK- This is based purely on OnceKing's actions. He has a great thread presence and seems comfortable steering the town in the direction that he believes to be the best. He has diverse interactions, and seems like he wants to understand the motives of each person in this thread before deciding who is scum. Goodkarma/Eden- Also based purely on Eden's actions. He found someone who he believed wholeheartedly to be bad for town, and is pushing his lynch with all his effort, WITH good arguments. What more could you ask for from a town. Neutral: Rayn/Slender- rayn I felt good about at first, but he sort of dropped out of the chat. Slender seemed like he was trying with his Haru case, but he kept pushing it when people pointed out flaws in his logic. I'm not sure what to think about this. Aside from that, there isn't a lot of substance to work with from this group. Haru/GlowingBear- Haru still hasn't done anything to make me believe he is mafia or town, but he has done enough to make it known that he's pretty touchy when it comes to accusations against him. Glowingbear has seemed to fall into a habit of getting behind in the thread, making a massive post, and then getting behind again. He's trying, but he does not have a lot of presence. Null for now. Marv/Mderg- Marv has been gone and mderg has some decent stuff tbh. I like his pressure on Eden, but it comes later once there is already a wagon. I considered making a "leaning town" section just for this group, but I felt that I didn't have enough of a town tell. I'm fine with letting this group by until day 2, and hopefully they can be put in my town list. Leaning Mafia: Koshi/CR- I made my point about them earlier on, and neither of them have really done anything to disprove me. CR is still barely here, and his only defense to Bunnies' case was "hm, interesting case." Then AFK. Koshi hasn't been necessarily scummy so far, but I can't give a neutral read because half of the team is acting bearable. Slam/Sqrt- Looking at Slam's pots, he posts a lot of complaining and anger about reads on him without a lot of defense. sqrt-1 is not explaining his reads, even when prodded. On top of that, he blatantly gave up halfway through the day, thinking that the day was ending. Would town not pay attention to day end? Would town just concede on a mislynch without posting why, and then refuse to explain their reads? If you answered yes to either of those questions, then you're bad. Poofter/Bunnies- Poofter has been away for most of the day, which as other people said, fits his scum meta. Bunnies is overreacting to pretty much every accusation thrown at her, whether the accuser was joking or not. I'm not getting a town vibe from these two. wow. We have same feels. exact same feels. We could be friends if you bump me up to just above rayn. Also the marv slot is higher than Haru. Unless they don't die. | ||
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On July 14 2014 02:56 IAmRobik wrote: Who cares. Just let him be. He's town No sorry. He needs to be here. With me. | ||
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[QUOTE]On July 14 2014 10:04 TheSlenderMan wrote: @Koshi I'd STILL like you to elaborate on your Strat- and ExO-reads? QUOTE] I already explained my ExO_ read in my reply to Glowingbear. It comes down to him figuring out the game + being confident doing so. Stratsuspicion was my first post in the game and I just read what CR said in the QT, opened strat his filter and didn't see anything townie so I ran with it. | ||
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On July 14 2014 10:04 TheSlenderMan wrote: @Koshi I'd STILL like you to elaborate on your Strat- and ExO-reads? I already explained my ExO_ read in my reply to Glowingbear. It comes down to him figuring out the game + being confident doing so. Stratsuspicion was my first post in the game and I just read what CR said in the QT, opened strat his filter and didn't see anything townie so I ran with it. | ||
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On July 14 2014 18:09 Eden1892 wrote: Koshi: who are your scum reads? what have you done to get them lynched? why don't I remember the answers to either of these? HaruRh/Glowingbear for sure. I am reading their filters now. Pretty sure you can ask the same thing about them. I am currently on Glowingbear. I will type something up fast. I got some work to do as well. There was only 1 lynch so far and you/OK owned it. I was there trying to reason with slam but he refused. So he could die. | ||
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On July 12 2014 01:42 GlowingBear wrote: Or put the grapes on spoiler :p Ok I think we have enough posts to make a case. When I get home, I'll reach my computer and do what I do best: filter diving. Then I'm going to bring cases. Expect a big post in around 4 hours since now. Before I go, I must also say that focusing "townhunting" is worse than "scum hunting" in my opinion, because it gets easier to a scum to blend in your town circle and doesn't help to do a good lynch on day1, as you are going to choose who to lynch based on someone you just don't have a strong town read instead of lynching someone you have a strong scumread. This was made on page 45: On July 12 2014 07:41 GlowingBear wrote: OMG just got back home and BOOM 45 pages to read. Gonna take a shower, skim through the pages, filter dive my strongest scum read and give a case. Then, if I get enough energy, I'll filter dive other people's scum reads to give my opinion. God, it will take a while. -WeDemandALawyer: Haru and GlowingBear GlowingBear has shown activeness through pages 1 to 45. These 2 quotes come from the bottom of his first first page of filter. How can you be active in the first 35 pages of the game, say you will make cases when you return in 4 hours, and then when you return you are totally lost because there are 10 more pages to read? What is the difference between 35 pages or 45 pages? To me this looks like a scum showing activity in the early game but not thinking about the game. Then after being pressured to give reads (also by his own teammate HaruRh: "GlowingBears reads are amazing, just wait on them") he says he will do it in 4 hours, but when trying to come up with reads failing horribly. This feeling is only strenghtened by the actual read post: On July 12 2014 14:29 GlowingBear wrote: Ok, I've read enough. I really can't read more right now, I tried to analyze every single page and it seems my head can't absorb that much information. I started to write a summary on what was going on but I've got no more energy to do. It's incomplete, but I will leave it here in case someone finds it useful: Half-ass summary: + Show Spoiler + A) Game started with Eden claiming VT. Tehpoofter questioned it (indirectly btw). Got a wagon on him because of Kenpachi Rule policy. Bunnies and Eden started a discussion about the kenpachi rule and about Bunnies writing nonsense. B) Robik posted about getting on the backseat while ExO would take the main point of his team. Got wagoned when Eden decided that this and Robik's vt claim was suspicious. C) Rayn accused Eden's and tehpoofter's posts of being the worst of the thread. It can be viewed at page 22 as quoted by Ede. This is the game while on page 22. D) marv/mderg starts posting at page 23 right after Exo express his will to hear about them. E) Eden is questioned by marv and palmer for his vt claim. Eden insists in his vt claim. This is around page 24. F) Palmar scumreads my posts because he thinks it was filled with fluff and unhelpful, then voted on me and Haru. Page 26. G) Rayn decides to vote on me and Haru assuming that Haru was writing useless stuff when defending Palmar's push on me. 26-27 H) Robik posted and people got on him again, inquiring about his back seat attitude and his vt claim. I) 32 - 36: sqrt starts giving reads on everybody, mostly null or town reads, except for Palmar because... he didn't confirm? o.O. People start to pressure him. So, for what I read until now, I have three main targets I want to read more: ExO, Robik and Eden. I'll filter dive them tomorrow, as I didn't have energy enough even to read through 50 long pages. I have a stronger hunch on sqrt/alakaslam, as a lot of people were saying here. Why these guys? Because my way of scumhunting is going through passivity and too much friendly behavior. Going against people there were being quite and being friendly was my best bet on my first game and when I did that most of my readings got the right guys. I see this signals on sqrt's posts, mostly. Check out these quotes: sqrt's friendly quotes: + Show Spoiler + On July 12 2014 00:52 sqrtofneg1 wrote: First post that catches my eye. This team is leaning town. First team to get a signature. ![[image loading]](http://www.banfiwines.com/wp-content/uploa...on-670x390.jpg) On July 12 2014 01:01 sqrtofneg1 wrote: Eden is town. Last time I played with Eden, he was mafia, and he wasn't joking around like this. He came down hard on people. ![[image loading]](http://www.banfiwines.com/wp-content/uploads/cabernet-sauvignon-670x390.jpg) On July 12 2014 01:20 sqrtofneg1 wrote: Okay, rayn is first on my list. Town. Like I pointed out, this is an excellent post. On July 12 2014 01:24 sqrtofneg1 wrote: Haru is definitely strange. He is not acting like in previous games. I don't like him. His partner, Glowingbear, however, I do like. This: Is a good post. Decent logic here. Overall, I'm on the fence with these guys. Haru, a question for you. Why were you waiting for robik to say this? On July 12 2014 01:27 sqrtofneg1 wrote: Tehpoofter hasn't done much. No read on him. Bunnies, however, has talked alot. A lot lot. Bunnies isn't as helpful as in other games, to the best of my memory. She's not questioning anything, not pushing people, I don't like it. But I don't think we should lynch them because you usually don't lynch the most outspoken player, even if they're not posting all that useful stuff. Bunnies, any particular reason for not scumhunting? On July 12 2014 01:33 sqrtofneg1 wrote: Ray + tambo hasn't talked yet. No read. I've bolded most of his reads. He looks like he does not want to "get into the battlefield", mostly giving free townreads to people. What mostly bothers me: just one-liners. He made a push on Palmar, though: sqrt's vote on Palmar's: + Show Spoiler + On July 12 2014 01:31 sqrtofneg1 wrote: I do not like palmar. (this seems to be a trend) He hasn't /confirmed yet. First post: And then does nothing for a significant amount of time. Also this is not the palmar I saw when I played him. He was more analytical, more smart that game. This game, not so much. Stratiform, I don't have a clue. But this is my best read so far. They're mafia. ##Vote: Team Magic Computer Howerever, there is no strong argument to justify a lynch, as there is no strong argument to justify his townreads. If you check his filters, you will find tiny posts with little information and reasoning behind. It just looks like he is trying to look like he is contributing, but not contributing at all. But if he is scum, I'd better check Alakaslam also, because they are a team. If you filter dive him, you're going to find posts with no much useful information. Like this one: Hi Post from Alakaslam: + Show Spoiler + So, although I'm not sure if alakaslam is not contributing more because he, at the time, didn't have enough food on anybody, and although he doesn't have an overly friendly behavior like sqrt, this lack of contribution fits sqrt's attitude until now. Slam gotta do better to change my vote. So this read post is 13 hours later then when he promised he was going to provide reads. But Glowingbear doesn't get further then the page he was on when he promised these reads. These reads all date back to page 35. Now if we look at the actual content in this post there is only something on sqrt, and it has nothing to do with scumhunting. It's just sqrt is being friendly and on the sidelines. Which is exactly how Glowingbear is playing tbh, this is the first post that contains any form of reads and we are 50 pages far. There is nothing on Alakaslam. From reading the Alakaslam filter GlowingBear quoted a post about Alakaslam saying "Hi". That's it. I don't even know what to say about that except that it isn't a townie looking to figure out Alakaslam his alignment. HaruRh makes it look like GlowingBear was pretty good in previous games at scumhunting, I haven't checked this but if GlowingBear did find scum. He probable didn't do it by analysing "Hi" posts. So in this post he against promises reads for 3 other people. I am seeing a pattern here. GlowingBear keep getting behind on the thread and then by catching up he doesn't have to play in the moment. He just gives himself time to make outdated posts. In theory this is already 100% scummy, but forgivable if the reads would help the game forward. Or in the very least attempt to do so: On July 13 2014 05:29 GlowingBear wrote: [/i][/i][/i][/i]-> About my suspicions on ExO: As I said before, my preferred method of chasing scum is looking after passivity/overly friendly behavior, although not the only one (this is the last time I'm saying this, you all know it by now). So, what raised suspicions on ExO was this particular post: + Show Spoiler + On July 12 2014 00:54 ExO_ wrote: Some thoughts: Team D- I tend to have weird hours that I can be on, and I'm not just reading the TL forums 24/7, so while I can't always be as active as robik saying I'm not doing anything now isn't really giving me a fair shake in my opinion (@27ninjabunnies). Every game I've seen 27nb in she goes around being very caustic and arrogant towards some people, and very nice to others. It seems to be regardless of her alignment. I find it to be unhelpful, as she goes off on tangents with wild accusations filled with bullshit reasoning for scum reads. What this means in terms of the game is it's hard for me to read her as mafia or town. But I think she does more to cause problems in a town, than actually help with finding scum and uniting the town players. Poofter isn't saying much and is kinda letting her get out in front. I don't know how to interpret that, but in World Cup poofter stayed kinda quiet until it came time to push me in the wrong directions. Nearly worked too .So a null read on the team but I generally think constantly creating a toxic atmosphere for the town is a bad thing even if they are town. Team Whine Slam is posting a fuck ton of 1 liners/pictures/general nonsense (hijole?) and sqrtofneg1 is saying nothing at all. In larger games I think mafia lurking works better than in a smaller game such as this, but it's almost nothing to read off of. Will have to wait to see what they vote day 1 and what happens night 1 to really know what to think of them. Team VendettaStrada I'm not sure if they're both posting from the same account, but it looks like it's all raynpelioneet. In my limited experience here I haven't seen him before, and though he hasn't posted a fuck ton of stuff, seems townish it to me. Looks like he's contributing. Team needs a lawyer I always kinda read HaruRH scummy, he has a little bit of omgus going on, but I miss read him in world cup so it gives me pause. So I look over at glowing bear, and he hasn't said a whole lot either. Just got caught up in the Kenpachi business. But doesn't really read town to me. I lean scum here, but I'm hesitant. Team Magic Carpet Not a lot of posts from straightform just asking questions "Robik why won't u post?, Why would exo/robik not posting Day 1 not be bad for town" etc... Palmar calls out team lawyer for not posting anything of value, but I see very little of value from him at all. After reading his filter i think Palmar is the most scummy looking person so far in the thread. *scum read* Team GoodCornBadCorn Completely afk. Like 1 combined other than their /in posts. like what....? Do they not know the game is happening? No reads yet for obvious reasons Team Crotch Rocket Not a lot being said from good Karma. Eden is posting quite a bit, and seems okay. I don't think mafia are going to be quite as active as eden is being, but it could be good coaching happening. Town read for now though Team Fraud walRus Sinani saying hardly anything, OnceKing's vote on our team I think is bad: it's based on robik not playing the game, when robik has been pretty active. Hasn't really expanded on any reads and got pretty caught up in ol' kenpachi but I don't get a scum vibe from him. Null read Team M squared mderg hasn't said too much, but I've generally liked and agreed with what marv has to say. I think Town So that leaves me with Town M squared Vendetta Strata (aka how can I make a parody of that team name) Rocket Crotch Null D- Whine* Goodcornbadcorn* Fraud walRus Scum Lawyer Magic Carpet *Mostly afk So, basically, a huge post with tons of null reads and three town reads. This is, to me, being over friendly. Moreover, if you check his scum guesses, he thinks me and haru might be scums because we are not posting things with value. However, he is hesitating on us. Then, he thinks Palmar is scum for saying that we are scum for not posting anything of value. So, he is attacking Palmar for using the same logic as him. So, not a good post. This is what made him feel suspicious for me. ********* --> About my suspicions on Robik Alright, I felt Robik was suspicious because he said he wasn't going to post and then started to spam things, or that is what I felt. Something like these posts: + Show Spoiler + On July 11 2014 12:29 IAmRobik wrote: read the thread. not gonna answer this again cause i'm a lil whiney bitch On July 11 2014 12:21 IAmRobik wrote: Didn't think about that and didn't have to worry about it because when I opened my role pm I found out that I was town. On July 11 2014 16:32 IAmRobik wrote: Cause I am god-tier at reading Rayn. And on that note I'm going to bed On July 11 2014 23:51 IAmRobik wrote: Man, if I was town jr and marv was my town sr, I would be so content right now. I literally would have 0 posts in the thread On July 11 2014 23:55 IAmRobik wrote: I mean, my comment had nothing to do with the game or my reads. It was a random thought that came to my head. On July 12 2014 03:45 IAmRobik wrote: just looked into the first game. I was in it. I was town. You were medic. You didn't save me n1. Policy lynch: ##vote: oncekingworstmedicnaeuoceana http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=611&topic_id=461355 On July 12 2014 01:40 IAmRobik wrote: Man this post is so fucking scummy, but this guy is town. Don't lynch him! On July 12 2014 00:57 IAmRobik wrote: TOWNIEST POST IN THE MOTHA FUCKIN THREAD. THIS GUY IS SO FUCKING BRUTALLY TOWN. IF ANYONE VOTES TO LYNCH HIM, YOU WILL FACE MY WRATH These are quotes with Robik's sarcasm (which is really funny imo). But the thing is, looking out of context, it just seems that he wants to spam the thread. While re-reading his filters and trying to put those quotes on context, it looked like he was actually answering people. But... I don't know. Poor answers tbh. He insists to let ExO post more too much, also. And... why quoting his partner just to say "look ppl, this guy is town!". I just think that his spamming is not good, it looks suspicious to me because it just makes the thread difficult to read. Finally, I haven't seem a hard push coming from that team. That's what raised suspicions on him. But people who played with Robik before can say better if I'm being too hard on his playfulness. ********** --> About my suspicions on Eden Same as Robik. Funny but unhelpful in some posts: + Show Spoiler + On July 11 2014 11:35 Eden1892 wrote: i'm allowed to do that because i'm confirmed town On July 11 2014 11:58 Eden1892 wrote: is D short for Dumb Shit That Doesn't Matter because Team TheD isn't talking about anything else right now On July 11 2014 12:04 Eden1892 wrote: it is, i use it all the time very high salt content though, much like your post On July 11 2014 12:43 Eden1892 wrote: wow ok count 'em up there's #2 we goin to da top town On July 11 2014 14:07 Eden1892 wrote: Boy it sure is boring being a Louisiana VOLTRON Mason with bunnies and OnceKing... Ok, I'll stop here because I've made my point. But that's not the only suspicious part. I find weird his strong push on poof based on a policy, while I think poof was being sarcastic regarding Eden's claim. But even if he thought poof was scum, I think he should reason it better. His explanation was late: + Show Spoiler + On July 11 2014 11:56 Eden1892 wrote: y'all are dumb as hell smh no one is using the Kenpachi Rule this is actually the Ihcapnek Rule, where someone is scum because they believe a VT claim too quickly, not because they cast doubt on the VT claim this is much better than the Kenpachi Rule and you should all follow the Ihcapnek Rule and vote TheD Ok, so, if he thinks this policy is good, he should push hard on it, no? He didn't: + Show Spoiler + On July 11 2014 14:59 Eden1892 wrote: Sweet. I didn't actually "get the feeling" blahblah at all, actually I was starting to back off my scumread of slot TheD and bunnies' recent posts have solidified that move. We're not lynching bunnies today ##UNVOTE Team TheD ##VOTE Team FakeClaim Why? Robik is on Team FakeClaim, and Robik claimed town. Therefore he is fake claiming and therefore he is scum. Checkmate Then, suddenly, Robik is town: + Show Spoiler + On July 12 2014 06:38 Eden1892 wrote: ok i'm on page 40 everybody shut the fuck up about robik he's town this is a waste bunnies is not toxic to the thread, her questions might not always be going places and her spat with robik or whoever tf back in the 30s was silly but it doesn't matter because she is also town we're lynching sqrt today, god bless america someone read the post i highlighted in response to exo's reads and tell me how it isn't scum-motivated His scumreads flips too quickly, look what followed up: + Show Spoiler + On July 12 2014 14:34 Eden1892 wrote: trufax, ignoring Slamroot for now right now I would only be okay with killing the following teams (listed in order in 2nd post of thread): - WeDemandALawyer - Magic Computer - GoodCopBadCop - M&M of those I like Magic Computer, GoodCopBadCop and M&M the most for potential next-lynches I'm not trying to ignore your case on WeDemandALawyer, promise, it's just weird to me that none of those slots have done anything I really remember/consider important On July 12 2014 15:21 Eden1892 wrote: ok friends here is a post count thus far, each number corresponds to the teams in the OP and the parentheses numbers are each poster 1: 31 posts (020/011) 2: 36 posts (025/011) 3: 99 posts (044/055) 4: 123 posts (031/092) 5: 64 posts (043/021) 6: 21 posts (009/012) 7: 80 posts (008/072) 8: 93 posts (077/016) 9: 89 posts (011/078) 10: 91 posts (076/015) preliminary thoughts by team: - slot 1 can stay, low posting but slenderman is doing work IMO, not killing this slot - slot 2 is whatever i'll sort it out later but i would be ok killing it - slot 3 is scum, we're killing today - slot 4 is memorable as town + high-posting so we're not killing this slot - slot 5 is oddly unmemorable for >60 posts, would be okay killing - slot 6 TBD, low post count and not memorable but a lot of that is Koshi replacing in - slot 7 is confirmed town, we're never killing this slot - slot 8 is funny because robik said he wasn't gonna talk but then has a bunch of posts. also we're not killing this slot because it's memorable as town + high-posting - slot 9 is confirmed town, we're never killing this slot - slot 10 is unmemorable despite a lot of posting, would be okay killing this slot tl;dr: - slot 3 scum - slots 1, 4, 7, 8, 9 are off the table - slot 6 tbd - slots 2, 6, 10 look good, probably in that order That concludes what I found suspicious on Robik, ExO and Eden. I would like to see marv's opinion on this post. Waiting for it. This again is so many hours later and I already commented on this post to show goodwill to GlowingBear. But in the end this post just isn't what it should be. There is nothing here that pushes the game forward, that only a townie would think off or what a scum wouldn't say. On July 13 2014 15:04 GlowingBear wrote: 3am here but I'm not feeling sleepy. Someone to talk please? marv, please, bring your thoughts on my main posts On July 14 2014 02:30 GlowingBear wrote: "Glowingbear threw random names" *a huge post justifying my suspicions* "Lol tl;dr too boring to read." Gg. At least koshi had the decency to reply to my post Koshi, about Robik, I said that his posts, at least out of context, sounded like he was simply throwing random jokes and that when looking inside a context I wasn't sure if they were some random jokes or had some kind of meaning, but I still thought they were simple spam. When I say spam I am referring to a lot of posts with little information. I think that they make the thread bigger and useless. I think this is harmful to town. That is why I like to skim through the thread and post big posts, because it makes easier to people analyse what I say. I'm still improving on the formatting so I makes easier. I'm doing my best to be clear to town, clear to any analyses, but still there are people saying that I look scummy for that. I can't really understand why. Then in the following many muchos hours. GlowingBear keeps referring back to his post about ExO, Robik and Eden. Why? Is it because he still thinks these 2 teams are the scumteams? I dare you. Who are the scummers in GlowingBear his mind right now? Tell me? You can't. Now I also skimmed HaruRh his posts and I don't see much scumhunting there as well. Pretty sure he calls Robik town, I don't know about Eden. cba to look atm. I already know enough. ##vote: WeDemandALawyer | ||
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On July 14 2014 20:18 Tehpoofter wrote: I like your glowing bear case. I'm going to go to bed but can you read robik/rayn for me. Also what is your read on me and bunnies? Robik has given reads on everybody. Hard reads. I don't see him being scum. ExO_ should post a big read post again. Then we can all be sure. If rayn hasn't found the 2 scum after he rereads we lynch him. Bunnies had this post: On July 13 2014 07:12 27ninjabunnies wrote: Alo, Eden and OKs meta read on each other is a bit weird, tho I could see why that read would be made. But they could still be mafia together. Also, where are their other halves? (Not that I can say anything, my other half is... who knows.... Lol) Robik's been pushing scum on me for poofter being afk, but doesn't even mention the fact that sinani and GK have barely posted a thing. JS She talks about these posts: On July 13 2014 06:29 Eden1892 wrote: yea nah there's 0% chance onceking is scum this game robik, in that newbie game we played together, ok kept doing shit i didn't fully understand, but didn't find especially sinister. for example the case he made on valenius... i never agreed with it at all. it sounded good enough and looked to me like town play from him but i disagreed with the read big time and never really considered valenius a legit target. he pushed on somebody else i forget that didn't really follow to me either compare to this game where we're literally x-posting and you can see the difference. if he's scum then he's got me because i feel like at the very least he would be sluggish in seeing what i'm seeing, y'know? because he doesn't know what i would consider "knowing too much" and he would need time to assess it. not here, he's just firing away with whatever he's got and it's exactly what i'm seeing too it's a bullshit unfair heuristic for him when he is scum but basically if he's not on the same page as me and i'm town, he's scum. he's on the same page to a ridiculous extent that only makes sense when you consider that he taught me the game so he's confirmed town and i'm confirmed town For some reason I can't find the second one... The one from OnceKing, but he said this: On July 13 2014 07:18 OnceKing wrote: Okay look Here is why Eden and I make zero sense as scum partners Why would we as mafia put all of our eggs into one basket especially so early on day 1 It's almost add if people believe that we went in scum chat and was like Hey Eden... Scumbuddy... Let's say the exact same things in the thread... Yeah the exact same thing... They'll never see it coming And yet we're agreeing so closely on everything that there's no way only one of us is scum So he's town and I am too If you trust Eden you should trust me and vice versa And this is just how everybody should see it. It is literally impossible that both Eden/OnceKing are mafia. I could go for 1 being mafia jeebus. But never both. NEVER. I think town ninjabunnies should see this. Then there is this tunnel from ninjabunnies on me. It is solely based on the fact that I entered this game similar to how I entered Normal Mini Numbered. She hasn't given any other reason but that. She did however repeat this one reason a couple times already. Now I have asked her twice to check my other 2 towngames in which I replaced. But 27nb refuses. WHY? I don't ask her to do this because I think it will show me being town btw, I just want her to say anything more than "Koshi entered SIMILAR than this other game in which he was scum". But she isn't. Then there is this gem I just found filtering OnceKing: On July 13 2014 05:16 OnceKing wrote: but didn't Koshi enter the thread with reads lol Here is the link. 27nb IGNORES the blatant contradiction in her 1 line scumcase on me. OnceKing also said something about CR having a town entry and 27nb also "could see" it. But later kept calling CR/Koshi scum for the same reason she said we were scum the first time. Her read doesnt get updated. Lastly and this is just feels. I looks like ninjabunnies is being pretty dramatical if it comes to people scumreading her. She is acts annoyed and closed off while I know in the game I replaced in as scum she didn't do that as town. She kept fighting till the end, and there she was getting lynched. She was always nice. Now I say all these things to her scumpartner. But it is actually for the entire thread to read. But GlowingBear/HaruRh deserve my vote more. They also get way more townreads than 27nb and I don't see why. There are actually also pretty good things in 27nb filter. | ||
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On July 14 2014 23:28 IAmRobik wrote: You type too much Koshi. My attention span for long cases is like negative 0 My cases are so interesting that once you start you can't stop. Go for a positive 0! | ||
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On July 14 2014 23:41 IAmRobik wrote: I was really hoping to get carried this game by ExO...Where is he? I hope he comes in with mindblowing stuff and then we just all sheep him and lynch scum I prefer to have your guy than my guy. And I actually like CR his play. Except when it is shitty and I get modkilled for saying that. Maybe I only like his scumplay. | ||
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The last post is hilarious. I was so angry for getting modkilled. meh. CR owns me to play bestest town this game. | ||
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On July 14 2014 23:55 goodkarma wrote: I actually agree with this to some extent. A bit of WIFOM to be sure, but if you look at their activity levels, and what little they've contributed I'd say the evidence starts stacking against them. I'd like to wait until Rayne gets back before jumping to conclusions but this is very possible. Can you explain why? | ||
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On July 15 2014 00:04 IAmRobik wrote: Koshi, you know why I think what I think, right? ... I didn't want to explain it until karma finished his thought. Nope. I could see a reason but I doubt you think that reason. | ||
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So my theory is that they were on the right track. Both marv and Stratiform. Also, how the fuck can I know that Robik? I wasn't in that game. It wasn't even on TL. | ||
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On July 15 2014 06:30 OnceKing wrote: Right now I kinda want to sheep robik and palmar's dead body and kill bunnies but I haven't gotten enough out of kosher and Artanis yet Direct all your questions to Artanis. I got to play in another game tomorrow. Only rayn can ask me questions. | ||
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On July 15 2014 06:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: Your vote is okay Koshi. Why didn't you sheep me & marv on D1? Because Slam refused to play and I had a bigger Townread on both Eden/OK. You 2 were doing nothing. Somewhere I wanted to sheep you blindly but mehhhh. | ||
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On July 15 2014 06:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: your townreads are bad. I disagree. My townreads are always good. | ||
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On July 15 2014 06:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: answer quick koshi am i scum? If you are scum you need a misslynch on me. Seems like that is not being worked on so we are cool. | ||
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On July 15 2014 06:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: that's not what you said in the first place.... I said this to make it obvious that I expected a good caught up by you. You caught up and it was ok with your reads. So I am ok with you. I have a strong scumread on GlowingBear/HaruRh atm. I don't understand why I should see you as scum for sheeping me. PS: I considered answering to your disliking to see you would vote me. But I want to be friends this game. So let's be friends and lynch scum. | ||
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On July 15 2014 12:41 HaruRH wrote: [/i][/i][/i][/i]Case #2: + Show Spoiler + On July 14 2014 18:45 Koshi wrote: This was made on page 35: This was made on page 45: GlowingBear has shown activeness through pages 1 to 45. These 2 quotes come from the bottom of his first first page of filter. How can you be active in the first 35 pages of the game, say you will make cases when you return in 4 hours, and then when you return you are totally lost because there are 10 more pages to read? What is the difference between 35 pages or 45 pages? To me this looks like a scum showing activity in the early game but not thinking about the game. Then after being pressured to give reads (also by his own teammate HaruRh: "GlowingBears reads are amazing, just wait on them") he says he will do it in 4 hours, but when trying to come up with reads failing horribly. This feeling is only strenghtened by the actual read post: So this read post is 13 hours later then when he promised he was going to provide reads. But Glowingbear doesn't get further then the page he was on when he promised these reads. These reads all date back to page 35. Now if we look at the actual content in this post there is only something on sqrt, and it has nothing to do with scumhunting. It's just sqrt is being friendly and on the sidelines. Which is exactly how Glowingbear is playing tbh, this is the first post that contains any form of reads and we are 50 pages far. There is nothing on Alakaslam. From reading the Alakaslam filter GlowingBear quoted a post about Alakaslam saying "Hi". That's it. I don't even know what to say about that except that it isn't a townie looking to figure out Alakaslam his alignment. HaruRh makes it look like GlowingBear was pretty good in previous games at scumhunting, I haven't checked this but if GlowingBear did find scum. He probable didn't do it by analysing "Hi" posts. So in this post he against promises reads for 3 other people. I am seeing a pattern here. GlowingBear keep getting behind on the thread and then by catching up he doesn't have to play in the moment. He just gives himself time to make outdated posts. In theory this is already 100% scummy, but forgivable if the reads would help the game forward. Or in the very least attempt to do so: This again is so many hours later and I already commented on this post to show goodwill to GlowingBear. But in the end this post just isn't what it should be. There is nothing here that pushes the game forward, that only a townie would think off or what a scum wouldn't say. Then in the following many muchos hours. GlowingBear keeps referring back to his post about ExO, Robik and Eden. Why? Is it because he still thinks these 2 teams are the scumteams? I dare you. Who are the scummers in GlowingBear his mind right now? Tell me? You can't. Now I also skimmed HaruRh his posts and I don't see much scumhunting there as well. Pretty sure he calls Robik town, I don't know about Eden. cba to look atm. I already know enough. ##vote: WeDemandALawyer Look at this: So basically, Koshi's 'scumread' is ONLY based on glowingbear. Which were mostly outdated and rubbish. Like this: This read is bad because it is saying 'yea glowingbear is active, but doesn't seem to be active, so is scum' <-????? NOTHING TO DO WITH SCUMHUNTING NOTHING TO DO NOTHING NOT- So when someone is attacking you, you ignore them? #koshiTownMeta? Haru The Judge's final Rating: Mostly incorrect information, read is only based on one player. Nope. Still bad. Are you kidding me? That case from GB on rayn looked like it.could come from town. But this shit? I take another look at gb and nb later. Then I decide. | ||
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On July 15 2014 21:13 Eden1892 wrote: Koshi why do you feel that harubear is more worthy of your vote than poofybunnies? Because everything GlowingBear did right before that rayn case screamed scum to me. I really don't want to change my vote because I think they are scum. Look at where there vote is and at what cases they are making. You would think they would be voting rayn now right? HaruRH just came back after being 48 hours into the thread and just barfed all over my case on GW. Nothing he said convinced me I made a bad case on a townie. | ||
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On July 15 2014 22:08 HaruRH wrote: One guy had to be the bad one, the shitty poster and the barfer while the other guy had to be the good one, the logical poster and wall-of-logic poster. I chose to be the first. So who are your scumreads barfer? | ||
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On July 15 2014 22:11 HaruRH wrote: Rayn& slender makes an epic scum duo. Rayn with his entrance and summary posts that seemed to want to scumread, but suddenly votes another team Slender with his never ending questions that are obviously answered, but still decides to ask anyway nb& poofter are just trying so hard to survive its hilarious. What do you make of Slender leaving the thread as soon as rayn joined? | ||
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On July 16 2014 02:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote: It's a good thing you're confirmed town to me or I'd be all over yo ass, beyotch. gooby pls I do like that you trying to understand how seniors play. This newbie game is paying dividends. | ||
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On July 16 2014 03:11 GlowingBear wrote: I made a case, Haru made his defense and voted. All that is happening is Robik playing da Vizzini and not putting his vote anywhere. Same goes to OK and TheD. Why are these guys not voting? Why are you not voting rayn? | ||
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On July 16 2014 03:15 IAmRobik wrote: The better question is: Why am _I_ not voting Rayn? To vote Rayn or not vote Rayn -- that is the question You dont think haru/gb is.scum? Artanis thinks they arent. | ||
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On July 16 2014 07:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Stop lurking and participate, junior. I drank this cocktail with Limoncello and Cava. My head really hurts atm. Really strong stuff. Daddy needs some sleep time. | ||
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Robik OK -------line of impossibility Eden HaruRH From scummiest to towniest. | ||
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On July 16 2014 17:01 Eden1892 wrote: no i ask u why Sounds the most logical in my head. | ||
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4 people up for lynch tomorrow. We look by far the worst. I blame Artanis. But if I got my wishes we would have lynched a blue. So... I am ok with this.jpg | ||
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On July 16 2014 21:25 GlowingBear wrote: Lol game is over guys, everybody left is blue ggwp props on the vote switch. Pretty sexy. | ||
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On July 16 2014 21:26 Eden1892 wrote: i have literally zero idea if u srs rite now koshi how do u feel about me sheeping with ur new partner artanis? As long as you don't take him to lunch like you did with your mistress rayn. | ||
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 no lyncherino pls. | ||
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This is us: ![[image loading]](http://greatinspire.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/35-Cute-Miniature-Pig-Pictures-20.jpg) | ||
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On July 16 2014 21:44 Holyflare wrote: dude that's not a town seal that's the biggest mafia seal ever ty for free win guys Why would you kill 2 cute innocent piglets? | ||
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On July 16 2014 21:46 Holyflare wrote: gonna let you mature over the course of a day and then lynch you for bacon when you're full grown pigs please. no killerino the pigerino. Here is some of that black beer you UK lads like: ![[image loading]](http://ididafunny.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/cute-mini-pig-8.jpg) | ||
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We are really town. | ||
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I GO AFK AS WELL. | ||
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brb going to nominate. | ||
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On July 12 2014 08:15 Eden1892 wrote: Can I lunch him This chimichanga is insufficient | ||
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On July 16 2014 23:12 IAmRobik wrote: Hey Koshi, please confirm that slumlord Slendy pushed hard for those night kills ofc not. perfect nightkills. We had this in the bag if rayn had more presence. Which he has in all his games. We didn't NK to find a fucking jailor + parity cop btw. Insane set-up. | ||
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On July 16 2014 23:15 kitaman27 wrote: Well assuming mafia gets a town lynch on day one there is a pool of 6 players where the power roles could live. With the rolecop, that is reduced to a pool of 5 players. If both hits go through, that's a pool of 3 players. Assuming they didn't identify the cop from the 4/7 info on day one, they would have one more shot at it on night two. If the jailer hits the cop on night one or night two, the cop would need to live until day four to produce a check, forcing them to survive another lynch and night hit. Even if a cop produces a check, with a parity check, odds are that it produces the alignment of only 1 player. If the jailer produces a successful save on night one or night two, it earns town an additional lynch, though the mafia essentially was given a night one vigilante in the form of a second kp to compensate. If mafia get lynched on day one, then I admit, they're in a really tough spot, but that's going to happen in any 9 player setup. The setup was originally ran as parity cop//doctor, which could possibly considered quite town-favored. I'd say this one was more slightly town favored, although if I had to run it again, I'd possibly make it so that a jail would roleblock the parity cop for the remainder of the game or possibly add in a miller. There are too many ways that the parity cop just outright wins the game D3. And the fact that he can claim it is the biggest profit. Not the checks. They are a nice bonus. In every world marv/Palmar/Robik/rayn need to get nightkilled N1. As soon as the doc is on anybody but these 4 you got a town favored set-up. On top of that town got a parity cop on lynchbait. Which was very well played by those 2 obviously. But in no world scum kills GB/HaruRh in a game this stacked. The setup wasn't fully town favored. But RNG fucked scumteam over. | ||
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On July 16 2014 23:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: No.. OnceKing. I donät even care what happened since i posted last time in the game but OK was definitely the town MVP. He looked so ridiculously town we could not even TRY to lynch sinani who was scummy as hell. pls gooby. Eden got you lynched. On his own. He is like Koshi jr. But he did it on a scum rayn. I only get town rayn lynched. | ||
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On July 16 2014 23:46 kitaman27 wrote: Also, I did RNG the setup out of the six possible setups. The numbers on the three setups are definitely slightly mafia favored. If I had to guess, the double blue roles are a bit harsher for town, than the single blue are for mafia, but no where near 25 : 75 like you claim. With a random setup like this, you have to average the possibilities for the overall balance, though ideally the parity cop//doctor one should probably be removed, which Palmar ran originally. Even that game came down to a double LYLO, rather than being won by blue actions. If I had to do the numbers, I'd probably say cop/jailer is about 40:60. I think you're over-estimating the success rate of a parity cop pulling off a meaningful d3 check, though I do admit that I would have preferred a single blue setup. If the cop is not shot, role cop'd, jailed, lynched by day three and town believes the check at a likely lylo position, you're still only dealing with 1 alignment check with a different check vs a dead player, or a same/different check from alive players where town still needs to make a decision at lylo. On not sure how the hydra factor comes into play. In the past versions of the game, I've heard town say its easier because they have someone to bounce ideas off of and I've heard mafia say its easier because each mafia player doubles their chances of being seen as the "so active he has to be town" player. It's all about who gets the roles. | ||
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I was scum so we won but that was fucking hard. | ||
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On July 16 2014 23:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also minigames are definitely townfavoured. Really really really town favoured, if you need three mislynches. There is just no room to hide for mafia in case at least SOME townies play really well. Also also hydra game makes it town favoured x2. And i always roll fucking mafia in hydra games. Annoying shit, next time there is a hydra game i am confirmed mafia and you can just lynch me. On June 30 2014 09:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote: 10v3 is standard Koshi, 4 mislynches vs 3 correct lynches is pretty normal in minis. ^ And we lost as scum in a game with this guy. | ||
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Replacements should be also be done more carefully. But replacing is always better than modkill? | ||
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