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IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
June 30 2014 17:27 GMT
#121
I don't wanna lynch him cause I'm lazy and he was the only one to actually provide some sort of content
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
June 30 2014 17:48 GMT
#122
but his content is scummy
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
June 30 2014 17:50 GMT
#123
W/E. If you wanna lynch him SnB, I'm not stopping you. I'll even put my vote on him with you if that's what you want. As long as we lynch someone whose name isn't "IAmRobik" today I'm happy.
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
June 30 2014 17:52 GMT
#124
that's not really an okay answer...
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
June 30 2014 18:00 GMT
#125
Well it's honest and it's how I feel at the present moment.

I'd rather just lynch someone who's not participating at all, but if someone says someone else is sketchy, I'll just take their word for it and lynch that person. Like I said, I'll reconsider everything during n1 and d2, but as long as ANYONE BUT ME gets lynched I'm happy.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
June 30 2014 19:28 GMT
#126
On July 01 2014 01:37 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2014 00:37 Snickers wrote:
I do not know what srs means or rvs. I do not understand your post. "Tl townies play like" you mean I am playing how i think Tl townies play like? I do not see the emotion in it either. Look at my meta if you want to know my style. It is different than people on here.

How has no one asked ET yet why he asked Chairman about MM's reads and no one else? That was what I thought was scummy. His question seems forced and not genuine. Even if I did not have "genuine" emotion that is not as bad as questions that are not "genuine". It seems like he just picked it out of the air.

"srs" serious
"rvs" random voting stage

what I mean is that when you complain about "bad townies", how you have to "trick people into listening to you", and how specific players in this game are "bad townies", I see it as emotional complaining about town. It seems like you are grinding a particular axe, but there's no reason for that yet in this game. So yeah, it seems to me that you're trying to play like you think tl townies play, because there's no good reason for you to be upset yet.


I kinda don't want to lynch Snickers. Looking at his play, I get the impression that he's an lesser experienced and overly eager town. I mean, look at his pre-game post:

On June 28 2014 17:15 Snickers wrote:
Walmart Is selling 70 page notebooks for 25 cents. I just bought 16 for this game (notes).Now with tax, the total came to $4.24. I expect you all to put forth similar money into this game. If you are confused use a currency converter.


A mafia right now would want to grasp at some fake reasons to put scumreads onto people, or bandwagon off a town's scumreads on other towns. Snickers has said a lot but it's mostly just for painting people as bad town, and he's the one initializing the pushes onto people and there's no bandwagoning at all. As I said before, I do find it offputting that he's looking too far into small things, and you have an issue with him being overly upset, but I think these are both symptoms of a town that's too involved rather than mafia.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
June 30 2014 19:34 GMT
#127
I think the pockets are deep with CR
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
June 30 2014 19:53 GMT
#128
On July 01 2014 04:34 IAmRobik wrote:
I think the pockets are deep with CR

What does that mean?

Also I would like EchelonTee to tell me what he thinks about my snickers thing
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
June 30 2014 19:55 GMT
#129
That reasoning for why snickers is town is really fucking off and seems like CR is trying to pocket snickers
sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
June 30 2014 20:08 GMT
#130
lol

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/460423-a-fire-upon-the-deep-mini-mafia?user=Chairman Ray

first day of a majority lynch game

ok

##Vote: Chairman Ray
literally everything is wifom just shut the fuck up
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
June 30 2014 20:19 GMT
#131
is "pocket" some kinda newfangled slang for "buddy"?
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
June 30 2014 20:20 GMT
#132
On July 01 2014 05:19 strongandbig wrote:
is "pocket" some kinda newfangled slang for "buddy"?

Sure.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
June 30 2014 20:43 GMT
#133
On July 01 2014 00:37 Snickers wrote:
How has no one asked ET yet why he asked Chairman about MM's reads and no one else? That was what I thought was scummy. His question seems forced and not genuine. Even if I did not have "genuine" emotion that is not as bad as questions that are not "genuine". It seems like he just picked it out of the air.

Chairman and MM know each other from playing weekly mafia.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/460423-a-fire-upon-the-deep-mini-mafia?page=2#23

I did not pick it out of thin air.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
June 30 2014 20:58 GMT
#134
Vote Count – Day 1


Snickers (1): Alakaslam, strongandbig
MysteryMeat1 (2): Alakaslam, EchelonTee
Chairman Ray (1): sinani206

Not Voting (5): IAmRobik, Chairman Ray, MysteryMeat1, Tehpoofter, Snickers


Currently, MysteryMeat1 is set to be lynched with 2 votes.
With 9 alive it takes 5 to reach a majority.

If no majority is reached by Tuesday, Jul 01 9:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), the day ends in a no lynch. Everyone must have voted by that time.

Please contact the mods if the vote count is incorrect. Thank you!

Day 1 will end in or when a majority is reached.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
June 30 2014 20:59 GMT
#135
On July 01 2014 00:47 Blazinghand wrote:
Gentle Reminder: voting is mandatory if the day ends in a no-lynch

It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
June 30 2014 21:11 GMT
#136
I'm not sure on snickers at the moment. My initial read on him was classic angsty town but I see what you're getting at when you say that his emotion seems forced. However, I suspect that he is trying to bait people into getting mad at him? He talked about how he is trying to "trick" people into agreeing with him.

Overall I find it to be distracting, but I think it is foolish to lynch a talkative person D1 rather than a lurky person D1. At LYLO, I would rather have a chatty Snickers alive to judge a whole filter against, as opposed to someone who has just a few one-liners the whole game. I don't support a lynch of Snickers atm.


I thought it was odd that Chairman Ray had no problems with MM calling him town despite Chairman at the time having very little activity. At the time, Chairman had made 4 posts, in order being:
Chairman Ray wrote:
We should lynch someone before they even come on >=)
Hey sorry I wasn't on today, got called into work ><

Will be busy most of the day tomorrow as well
hmm, looks like nothing's happened so far
Let's not follow BH's advice this game ><


All of which is just null (esp. since it was 24h in the game).

The problem I'm having thinking through this is I'm not sure if MM looks bad for randomly calling Chairman town, or if Chairman looks bad for blindly accepting it. The reason why I'm fixating on this pair is because usually if you're playing with people you know, you focus on them since you know how they usually act/talk and have history to base your reads on. I find it very odd that they are hardly interacting despite Chairman saying that this would be "interesting" playing TL mafia with him/her for the first time.

It's possible they are scum together; some classic traits are here. Not much interaction between each other, some support shown for each other, but not taking firm, hardline stands. It seems a bit too obvious though; would MM just up and call his scumbuddy town, if they were scum? That seems too nooby to be scum move, but it's possible if he is new.

Overall, their whole exchange just seems off; it doesn't sound like two townies with a history to me. I was leaning for MM because of his last post and his high lurkiness, but I would be ok with lynching CR as well.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
June 30 2014 21:15 GMT
#137
##vote: Chairman Ray

I've heard that "sorry, I can't contribute guys, I'm totes mega-swamped at work" excuse before
I'm just not in mafia chat this time to see you post "so should i post or just stay quiet"
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
June 30 2014 21:25 GMT
#138
i would love it if people would post a list detailing all of their reads in a semi-comprehensive format, this way we have all the reads in one place, and its easier to tell exactly what people are thinking. Also catching scum later on in the game its easier to see how their logic has changed in order to see inconsistancy.

So without further ado, i shall go first!

Snickers:

On June 30 2014 11:30 Snickers wrote:
When I say "bad town" I mean that this person does not think clearly. He is trying his best, but is just bad at the game. Usually you cannot convince them to vote with you, when you think someone is almost 100% mafia so you have to trick them into voting with you. So like my last game, I tried to trick the town players into voting a person I thought was scum by using "rules" that they highly respected.(I was town) But the mafia played them hard.


really not a fan of this post and the one beforehand. It seems like he's being super try-hard. Not a big fan of him insulting people this early on in the game before things have really gotten serious. However the fact that he's being super try hard makes me think he could be town. However, i wouldn't mind lynching him just because it seems like he's a jerk, and i feel like i would have more fun playing without him. I also don't like snickers chocolate bars.

EchelonTee:
+ Show Spoiler +
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 19:09 EchelonTee wrote:
I'd be happy with an MM lynch.

Posting list of reads isn't inherently scummy but I don't know why you said this
On June 30 2014 18:17 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
honestly, my reads were just very gut feeling, and i only posted them so that we could get some discussion on the matter.

when you weren't really under much pressure. It's like you're trying to avoid ownership over them. That reticence is scummy to me.

I also agree that him exclusing Snickers from the list calling him "nullreads on two randos who i don't know are in game" is pretty fn weird considering how much he was talking.

##Vote: MysteryMeat1



Honestly i'm not a fan of EchelonTee, In a IML setting i feel like people who vote earlier are actually more scummy. For a mafia to be one of the last people to vote it's too obvious, I may have contributed a list of my gut reads, but i still view that as a considerable contribution to town. It also prompted more discusion instead of people posting very little. Which i am quite satisfied with.

leaning scum:

StrongandBig:

+ Show Spoiler +
On June 30 2014 23:37 strongandbig wrote:
I would lynch:

- snickers, for srs this time.
(1) complains about getting hit with rvs, seems to care way too much about one or two votes. Not necessarily scum but a yellow flag at least.
(2) more importantly - I want to lynch him for this post, and the ones that follow it:

Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 11:00 Snickers wrote:
On June 30 2014 09:57 Chairman Ray wrote:
On June 30 2014 06:48 EchelonTee wrote:
Chairman, I'm curious what you think about MysteryMeat (MM)'s list. Specifically his town read on you


Similar impressions as me. He didn't include Snickers, who is the most active player so far. I would personally slot Snickers under slightly scummy just because he's taking some little things a bit too serious.


I think you should be more concerned with that he kept me off his list. It seems like you were but then you got distracted.

Meh look at my meta, I am the most misunderstood mafia player on tl after Bh. I do not go crazy like some people (2 people in this game want to mislead), My "seriousness" is that I am playing to keep stuff organized and clear.

Someone wanted to know my read on Slam.

Slam-bad town (throwing quick votes around and Some post above this one was weird)
StrongNBig-bad town (Throwing quick votes around and only having one post to look at)
Et-bad town (already is super confused with my posts so he hinks he is right and I am wrong)

Do not get offended if you are on that list. I have a small sample size of posts. This is also why I do not read anyone as scum yet. Way too few posts and usually you need to link posts to prior posts.


This and the follow-ups read to me like he's trying too hard to fit an image of what "TL townies play like". The emotion doesn't read as genuine to me, there's no reason for it. Instead it feels like he's trying to force an image.

A meat lynch would be okay with me atm, or at least preferable to no lynch. There's the thing et pointed out, plus I don't like that he called robik his "top town read" at a point when robik had made two posts - one a joke and one saying he was not reading the thread. I want to hear from meat - what motivated you to put robik as top?

But right now I'd rather lynch snickers.


I really really like strongandbig for this post. He's asking serious questions and trying to get the game figured out. Also doesn't like snickers for the same reasons. We both got the try hard feeling from snickers but camae to slightly different conclusions. I like his questioning of me and why i put robik as top town. I've played with robik on dailymafia, and the games that i've played with robik when he's super trolly like this he usually ends up VT. I'm really only giving him a day pass, and i expect him to start contributing more d2 or n1

overall: town

Sinami:

+ Show Spoiler +
On July 01 2014 05:08 sinani206 wrote:
lol

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/460423-a-fire-upon-the-deep-mini-mafia?user=Chairman Ray

first day of a majority lynch game

ok

##Vote: Chairman Ray



I really don't like sinami, his filter is literally useless, quotes some post of Ray going /in and then goes alirhgt and votes for him.

leaning very scummy.

Chairman Ray:
I like his posts alot, they have a good mix of trolliness but also comes back to the game to ask serious questions and figure it out. I'm not sure how i like the deflection off of snickers. With only two mafia, i doubt you would ever want to bus d1.
very town: however if snickers ever gets lynched and flips red then i would take a look at Ray.

Slam:
something about Slam's post just rubs me the wrong way.

On June 30 2014 05:16 Alakaslam wrote:
MysteryMeat

Y

List post with no explanation is usually seen as scummy. EZ2FAKE

If you think something is scummy you should call it out as scummy, not go its usually seen as scummy, in order to try and put it into other peoples heads. I feel like Slam is trying to very subtly push his agenda without being overly obvious about it. He then switches his vote from snickers to me. And asks me why am i mafia with snicker. If he really believes snicker's is scum why is he switching his vote. I also just hate his posting style (lololo ) and the fact that he keeps on claiming hypocrisy. however i really hate people who push on people for stuff like inconsistancies, and get caught up in keeping everything straight as possible.

Gut feeling and after seeing his other posts, leaning mafia stil:

Robik:
I explained in strongandbigs profile, but it was more of a joke that i called him top town, its pretty much an obvious attempt to pocket him this early.

thepoofter:
Every forum game i've played with him or watched him play, he comes out of the gates super hard and just spews town all over everyones faces and keyboards. The fact that he hasn't I think is also very scummy of him. However i will give him the benefit of the doubt, as i think he's playing like 3 mafia forum games atm and playing video mafia at the same time.

I feel like i got everyone, if anyone has any questions please ask. Ill be back a few hours before voting ends.


"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
June 30 2014 21:28 GMT
#139
to clarify, when i mention inconsistancy its more along the lines of you thought he was town at this point and then this point you thought he was mafia, what occured that made your read changed in this time frame. I like those kinds of questions not, you talked about htis person but not this person lets lynch him type of inconsistancies.
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
June 30 2014 21:35 GMT
#140
I disagree with people posting all of their reads and always have and will. Reason being 1. it gives scum a lot of info 2. it clutters the thread. I'd much rather people discuss their scum reads than their town reads. The top town players over the years don't blow their whole load unless they have to and I don't think we have to start either.

I find it funny that you consider my vote early when I placed it over 48hrs after the Day post. I will agree that your list generated discussion.

Tehpoof inactivity is irritating. This is a 9 person game with only 5 pages of content (mostly short posts too). If you can't handle the activity shouldn't join that many games.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
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