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Fist scum caught, too easy. ##vote sinani206 | ||
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On June 27 2014 07:10 kushm4sta wrote: is there some reasoning to this, however dumb it may be? twitch chat | ||
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On June 27 2014 07:13 kushm4sta wrote: i still dont understand personal hate against anything twitch chat related. Also no one who wants to be taken seriously should ever say the k-word  | ||
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On June 27 2014 07:35 IAmRobik wrote: 1) Palmar town 2) Sinani prolly maf 3) Everyone claim your country immediately! This may seem insignificant now, but will prove very vital later in the game (i'll explain this part when it arises). I'm Greece It´s always interesting to see how some people have reads like these about 2 pages into the game with pretty much no content. On June 27 2014 13:49 ObviousOne wrote: That is quite remarkable. Maybe you have thoughts about sinani, or Palmar, or maybe you want to address one of the two people I listed? it´s not that remarkable at this stage of the game. Why would you think so? I like how you´re trying to get this game going in a more serious direction. | ||
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On June 27 2014 17:07 ObviousOne wrote: My original reaction was similar, but his entire first page of filter is useless because he didn't (or claims to have have not yet) read his role PM. The only post I could really try to get a read off of him for is This is to Robik in response to Robik's town read on Palmar. Palmar would be neutral except for how he bowed out of the thread for the day, which made me lean far to the green, so I agree with Robik and this post makes me think that Kush also sees Palmar as town (he didn't disagree with the premise that Palmar is town, only about Robik's fallibility in assuming it.) What's the deal then with the adversarial tone? I'd say neutral read on Kush from me pending the answer to this question. Is there a history between them, did Kush lose a game because of Robik or something? Does Kush know Palmar is town, and Robik is town, and is just "yeah yeah"ing before going quiet? Kush are you mafia? What about Palmar´s play makes people think he is town? I don´t see how his bowing out of the thread is indicative of him being town. I think that kush had about nothing game relevant in his filter. It´s not alignment indicative for now. His post you quoted suggests that he has some kind of history with Robik (I don´t know about this, though) so his alignment is just a question mark for me. | ||
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On June 27 2014 17:28 ObviousOne wrote: Palmar's anger at derp. Nice genuine post. Easy early town read. I´m not sure, if that actually makes him town. | ||
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So Robik is probably town. Like no sane scum would do that. | ||
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On June 28 2014 03:44 IAmRobik wrote: calling it now for post-game sake mafia = mdreg, haruh, sinani definitely wrong | ||
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about 1,5/3 Not sure about haru | ||
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On June 28 2014 17:27 Palmar wrote: I think mderg has a slight chance of being town, but he's good as scum so I wouldn't put too much into it. His observation about Robik was decent. I wouldn´t say I´m good as scum, I´m just not scared of being suspicious. On June 28 2014 17:30 Vivax wrote: Palmar, are you telling me you made an awful case on purpose? Can't say it's not believable, but if that's your legit town strat rethink it fast cause it can lead to mislynches when there is a sufficient amount of bad townies following it. Mass > class for newbies. And yes, I agree that Koshi is scummy. I have yet to see the strong desire to win in his play, the inquisitiveness etc. I might be willing to unvote you if you provide more insight into what your plan was with that case and if you generally comment on more stuff. The Robik "slip" and more importantly how some people reacted to it. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ Huge summary of own thoughts but the whole Robik situation is so wifomy that I think I'll give it low weight. Such plays are terrible plays that mostly just cause confusion but I'll try to reach some conclusions from it nontheless. Spoilered so you can read it if you are really bored and value my 2c. I think kush and sinani are town, cause their reactions were similar to mine and cause kush is giving me some town feelz with more recent posts. I don't see anything wrong with sinani backpedaling from his vote cause I would have done the same. Exo should be a lynch candidate for today. In no way I see that unlurking in that situation with lack of followup as townie. With Cava I'm finding it hard to believe that his first vote of that situation wasn't serious. I don't see the assertiveness and tryharding I would expect from town Koshi, but I'm reluctant to put it on either side of lazy or scummy and it's a quite subjective thing. Oh and Robik. If scum knows you're town they also know that there was something wrong in that post of yours, which means they would be less prone to fall for it, which doesn't mean they wouldn't take advantage of it if they had the chance (see exo). + Show Spoiler + THe thing with Robik's shitty play there is that if he's town, scum knows they don't have to do anything until a sufficient amount of townies decides to lynch him, on the other hand it's also a safe place for a vote for scummers who weren't active to begin with. If he's scum, they will shit their pants unless it was planned, leading to some overreaction following backpedaling when they realize it's not actually as bad as it looks. As summary of the situation, I would say kush's and sinani's reactions were the most similar to mine. I wasn't sure if it was serious until I read the part where Robik wonders if he should keep trying. In retrospect yes, it was unlikely it was a real slip since he also openly said he was fishing for roles in the same post, but I fell for it too (mostly cause of what Robik wrote afterwards) and only later embraced the fact it was probably on purpose when the waters calmed down. I see Rainbow's reaction as ok given his high activity during the time and the fact he was scrutinizing Robik when that happened. What I don't see as analogous to mine are Exo's and Cava's reactions. Exo didn't post anything of substance up until that point and it puzzles me how Koshi reads that as town when the first time a guy contributes is when there is a seemingly easy vote popping up, Koshi puzzles me in general and I don't get the townzie feelzies I should: Koshi didn't chime into that situation at all at a time when he was seemingly in the thread and that is not a good sign. When he chimed in he was completely unimpressed. The only time when I would be so unimpressed of such a play from Robik is when I knew it wasn't something to be taken seriously in the first place, is when I know Robik is town, for example. Koshi is a tryhard town player and he doesn't like open questions, he lacks the same seriousness in this game, he more silently than loudly endorsed Palmar's bad case on me and when that alarms Palmar as well, should he indeed be town, then it should alarm you too. As for Cava, I see him dropping the vote with a "omfg Robik" remark, then being silent until he comes back saying that Koshi is town. What follows is a kind of forced casual and tas a jokey interaction with Robik where Robik is dead serious and Cava dodges it by claiming his vote was "to bother him", which tbh didn't look much like that when he wrote "omfg Robik". Could see this coming from scum who sees the opportunity but then seeing everyone else letting off decides to follow the trend instead of pushing somebody for that of whom they know the alignment anyway. Vivax seems pretty town after this, he shows the critical thought process I would expect from a townie. The point that scum would not fall for the slip that easily makes a lot of sense (I feel bad for not realizing that). I agree about Exo. He hasn´t contributed anything at all but unlurked to vote Robik when it seemed like his lynch was getting traction, just to disappear again. At the very least that play is not helping town. He should definitely be pressured. Maybe he will actually give some insights once he gets voted. Thinking about this Rainbow and sinani are not as scummy anymore. They both didn´t really disappear after the Robik votes as I first thought they did. It also should have been obvious to them that he did not actually slip, if they were mafia. ##unvote ##vote Exo | ||
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On June 28 2014 19:17 Vivax wrote: Mderg I'm curious though why you didn't talk about Koshi or Cava yet. Sure, Exo shines by inactivity on top of his reaction but even then it would be just 1 of 3 scum if we're right. Don't you have a read on those two already? I have a hard time reading koshi. His reaction to Palmar´s case on you is strange but I don´t get the scummy vibes from him. I also don´t think his non reaction to Robik´s supposed scumslip is scummy. So I don´t really know what to think of him. Cav is a bit suspicious for 2 things, wanting to lynch between you and Palmar and not explaining his Robik vote/not unvoting immediately. Both are kinda suspicious but I could imagine him doing that as town, so I don´t think he should be lynched day 1. | ||
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On June 28 2014 19:31 Vivax wrote: So now that you changed your mind about sinani which two people would you lynch aside from Exo if you had the choice. I´ve always hated this question Probably Cav but I wouldn´t want him lynched today. Maybe haru because his play seems different from the only? game I´ve played with him. In Detention mafia his posts seemed more analytical. It would be more of a shot in the dark, though. I also don´t like Robik that much anymore since he made this trap which is actually more likely to make townies look bad than scum. | ||
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On June 28 2014 19:38 Vivax wrote: Oh and your opinion on TehPoofter would be nice too, almost forgot to ask about the guy. Sorry if I'm annoying you with the questions but it's kind of hard to find hard opinions on most players in your filter so it would be nice if you could communicate such a thing to the whole thread if you have it, thanks. I don´t see anything wrong with his play. The only thing I don´t like is his read on you and having a different read on someone isn´t really alignment indicative. | ||
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On June 28 2014 20:06 Vivax wrote: And why is Cav suspicious for his scumread on me and Palmar but Poofter isn't? I have a really hard time following if you really find that a valid argument for somebody being scum or not cause you seem to use it both ways. I think Cav and Poofter were different in that. Cav wanted to lynch between you and Palmar presumably because of the case Palmar made on you. I don´t think he actually gave the reason for that, though. I don´t like that. Poofter on the other hand was pretty clear about his read on you. On June 28 2014 20:23 Vivax wrote: You're focusing a bit too much on keeping your opinions about these guys in balance between scummy and not by finding arguments you don't seem very convinced of yourself. Could display you're not very confident about which tells you use, but could also display you have a hard time deciding how to communicate your read of people that might or might not be your buddies. Let's take TeHPoofter, both Kush and Rain both kinda shat on what he was saying about me. Your opinion mirrors what happened there but at the same time doesn't lean out of the window too much. With Cava it's pretty much the same except that Kush and Rain both read him as scum. When I ask you about two people you would lynch outside of Exo Cav is in there but Poofter isn't. Kush and Rain both push Cav but not Poofter. I have this feeling you're adjusting your play to Kush and Rain cause they both push Cava. You call him scummy (for an additional reason to what they said: His read on me) too but leave a caveat. Poofter you also seem to dislike for his read on me but you feel comfortable not calling him scummy. Kush and Rain didn't call him scum either. I don´t dislike poofter, I just think his read on you is wrong. | ||
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On June 28 2014 20:48 Koshi wrote: Fuck no... It's soccer tonight...... amagad But we should all know the result already. | ||
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On June 28 2014 22:18 Vivax wrote: It's also time for some action cause I found a scum: ##shoot: mderg Watch him flip red and shit bricks you didn´t find scum. And your reasoning is shit. | ||
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On June 28 2014 23:00 Vivax wrote: Prove me wrong. You changed your reasoning on sinani and Rain when presented with the fact that sinani's, kush's and my (not posted) reaction weren't scummy cause mafia would know that a townie claiming scum is still a townie. This only applies when you think or know that Robik IS indeed townie. If you take away this aspect, like you did when you said you don't like him anymore (in the context of being asked about people you would lynch), then that also should have changed back your reasoning on Rain and sinani, which I didn't see happen when I asked you about people you would lynch. If you are actually dayvig, you will be proven wrong soon enough. In what world would the votes make sense when they´re mafia together? If Robik is actually mafia, there´s like no way they´re also mafia. | ||
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On June 28 2014 23:33 Vivax wrote: Sure there is, if one of your scumbuddies fakeclaims, you will overreact most of the times if he doesn't inform you of it beforehand which is pretty much something I exclude in this case cause he made that post within a minute as a reply to Rain and hence would have had no time to tell his scumbuddies "Hey bros I'm going to claim scum now be rdy". Overall I don't think he's scum anyway but if you think that you can clear sinani on the premise that Robik is town but don't keep suspecting sinani when that premise is gone, then you aren't thinking townie in my opinion. Saying they can't be scum together is an entirely different mindset than you used before to clear one of them. It also involved you changing your mindset from "Robik is too ballsy to be scum" to "He can be this ballsy and it could also have been a trap for townies". I will listen to what you have to say and reconsider if I have to but I found the way your reads developed there quite untownielike. If I'm making a mistake by all means help me believe that it is what I'm doing. It wasn´t really on the premise that Robik is town. And I don´t think scum would overreact when their buddy fakeslips like that. They would probably wait a bit to see what happens. On June 29 2014 00:07 sinani206 wrote: The human brain works in interesting ways. I'm not saying he's 100% scum but since Robik is just constantly active, typing every single thought in the thread, I think there's actually plenty of opportunity for him to have accidentally said what he was thinking instead of the lies he is supposed to be spreading as scum. Also the test doesn't really make sense from a townie perspective. I don't see why biting on that is alignment indicative. Let´s be honest, scumslips like that don´t happen. It was intentional, regardless of his alignment. On June 29 2014 01:10 HaruRH wrote: My reads: On robik's fake scumslip Robik's fake scumslip was the only good opportunity for us all to read reactions of everyone where not everyone is joking away. Cav and sinani stood out for me because they actually believed it was real and they weren't joking . Most have already unvoted and knew it was a joke/fake slip but they continued to seriously called robik scum. Next, exo came in and voted for robik, but never unvoted nor replied to his claims properly. Reads on me I also want to reply to all my read-ers properly. Idk why koshi decided not to scumread me, but I felt the love disappearing. Rainbows continued to pressure me while I was still sleeping. Yay for rainbows. He is definitely town for the amount of content posted, but we all know posts don't mean town. Also, please don't be scared of another mislynch. It is not good to withdraw your vote and reads on me because you are scared. Robik also scumread me and called me a good lynch for today. But he still haven't said why. There are like 0 conclusions in these reads. The only thing that comes close to a read is town on Rainbow for the amount of content but then again post count doesn´t men town. I don´t care that you never got correct reads D1 or something like that. This is just inconclusive nothing of an amount even I have never managed to achieve. I´ll give you the benefit of the doubt for D1 but you´re not looking good at all. On June 29 2014 01:23 IAmRobik wrote: I'm legitimately going to quit the game of mafia if we don't lynch sinani. Anyone claiming the my case on him is bad or wrong needs to learn how to fucking read into things. THIS IS EXACLTY what sinani did. Letting him get away with it is beyond atrocious. AND IF HE THINKS I'M MAFIA AND WAS TAKING MY CLAIM SERIOUSLY, THEN HE WOULDN'T HAVE FUCKING UNVOTED ME WHEN HE DID. I'm gonna to fucking lose my shit -- You guys are all so fucking bad and annoying (granted I may be heated by events in another ongoing game, but like, this dude is fucking mafia and he needs to be lynched over any fucking other person in this game) I THINK YOU SHOULD BE EXPERIENCED ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT WRITING LIKE THIS DOES NOT HELP TO GET PEOPLE TO FOLLOW YOUR READS On June 29 2014 03:33 Cavalinho wrote: Koshi, I still don't understand what you're talking about. I think sinani is scum and I think Robik actually has a decent case on him. I would much rather lynch sinani today over everyone else and I don't know why you keep saying that I'm "dropping" it with Kush when I haven't even been around in the thread to interact with him. The case doesn´t really look that good anymore. It´s definitely not more convincing than your case on kush. So I don´t get why you´re voting sinani. I don´t think Exo is actually gonna talk before the deadline. If he doesn´t get modkilled, he would be a great target for a vig shot. | ||
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On June 29 2014 04:55 Cavalinho wrote: Nope, it's just gut. I don't see the need to waste a lynch on someone that isn't playing. I'm not even done with my reads list yet. I'm stopping to make food and then I'll post my reads on Vivax/Robik/Palmar. I feel left out | ||
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On June 29 2014 05:23 Vivax wrote: Yeah but would you lynch him today? I wouldn't. He definitely should not be lynched | ||
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I also don´t want to lynch sinani because I don´t think scum would actually react to the Robik fakeslip like he did. Still a better lynch than cav but I would rather lynch haru right now. | ||
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##vote haru | ||
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On June 29 2014 05:56 ExO_ wrote: what happens in case of voting tie? like WHAT THE FUCK? | ||
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##unvote ##vote sinani | ||
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##vote cav | ||
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On June 29 2014 06:00 Holyflare wrote: standby votes on :00 do not count btw I hate you now... | ||
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On June 29 2014 06:12 Vivax wrote: Does anyone think this makes sense after what he posted about Robik being scummy and his trap more likely to lure townies into a trap? Considering cav´s claim it does make sense. | ||
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On June 29 2014 06:15 HaruRH wrote: So why did he switched to cav at the last minute? Exo | ||
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On June 29 2014 06:17 ObviousOne wrote: ExO knew who to vote without being here all day what's up with that. I think he´s scum | ||
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On June 29 2014 06:27 Vivax wrote: mderg's reactions this game have been not townie on a multitude of occasions imo. He just gets baffled by Exo's comeback but still doesn't mind a bit that he's choosing to not vote the claimed cop. I don´t understand | ||
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On June 29 2014 07:11 Vivax wrote: I fail to understand mderg's decision making process based upon his past reads and conclusions and the fact that the guy he calls out for his sudden appereance (exo) votes for Cava and yet he doesn't mind a bit to put his vote into the same place like this edgy exo dude. Didn´t he vote sinani? | ||
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On June 30 2014 08:13 IAmRobik wrote: In fact, he's dumber than he claims I am, cause there was nothing palmar did that was scummy, whereas EVERYTHIGN that sinani did was scummy I lol´d. I guess there was some reason why he could have been scum but he was certainly not as scummy as you make him out to be. Considering the kush´s post before the shot it seems very likely that it was him who shot Palmar. On June 30 2014 08:29 Cavalinho wrote: Look, the people doubting me here need to fucking stop. I just had my role outed and was nearly lynched for the third time in a row. I just lost all of my checks and I'm a likely mislynch at some point because I had a shitty day 1. I can take responsibility for playing as badly as I did, but I've played my hand and the fact that people can doubt me at this point is ridiculous. I am the cop, and I'm uncc'd. The reason for that is, shockingly, because I am actually the cop. Also, since I'm making a giant post, I might as well map out what we're doing today: We're not lynching anyone on sinani. We find the scum hiding on my bandwagon from yesterday. We lynch them. My wagon yesterday was so obviously scum-driven that it pains me to listen to people make me out as mafia. Everytime I disappeared, people just went nuts and I couldn't deal with the fallout. I'd like someone to sit down and give me one, one good reason as to why we shouldn't believe me. I'm going to have a bunch of questions ready for people to answer as soon as I can, but I'm not leaving until we squash this shit right here and now. That logic is heavily flawed. If you´re town, scum didn´t really care which one of you two got lynched. You (assuming you are cop) are almost the same as a vt, so scum wouldn´t have anything to fear from you. On June 30 2014 09:52 Rainbows wrote: Mderg, can you explain the line of thinking? You go from "Robik = town because fakeslip" and "No town would put a serious vote on Robik, that's scummy" to "Robik = scum because fakeslip" and "townies would totally put a serious vote on Robik" If robiks trap is more likely to make townies look bad, then the voters on him are town putting down the serious vote. What changed your opinion? Vivax´s analysis of the situation changed my opinion. Others also said that they thought it was an actual scumslip, so I figured that I probably was wrong about that. The trap seems to have caught some townies, sinani would not have been lynched without this and kush who is most likely vig also thought Robik slipped. So from what we know at least 2 townies fell for the trap and we didn´t catch any scum with this. Accomplishments of Robik´s shenanigans so far: mislynching sinani calling us all idiots figuring out that kush shot Palmar and calling it stupid (would probably have happened without the fakeclaim) His shenanigans definitely didn´t help town so far. On June 30 2014 10:17 kushm4sta wrote: thanks bro... about robik's claim. Im pretty sure it's a lie but I really dont understand wtf he is doing. As for shooting palmar, he looked scummy as fuck. All night long I was like WHY IS PALMAR TOWN SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO ME. No one did. I Said why I thought palmar was scummy, no one responded. I think it was a fine vig shot. But nice job defending palmar after the fact. I'm currently thinking either you or poofter must be scum, due to balance. You could both be scum honestly. ~~~ Maybe we shouldn't kill cav actually until the other PR is ready to claim. hmmm. I think haru is very scummy it looks like he is setting himself up to vote mderg after cav flips scum. ##unvote ~~~ But yeah rob needs to get back in here and straight talk with me. I agree that there wasn´t anything that really made Palmar town. But there was also nothing that really made him scummy. His "I don´t give a fuck D1 attitude" wasn´t really alignment indicative. Good point about haru. His posts don´t make me believe that he thinks cav is scum over me, yet he´s voting cav. Because it´s almost a necessity that cav flips cop to get me lynched easily. On June 30 2014 11:30 HaruRH wrote: Kush scumslips ##Unvote ##Vote: Kush His vote on me is completely hinging on the fact that cav flips town. What confidence. how can he be scum when he is pretty much confirmed vig? | ||
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On June 30 2014 00:44 HaruRH wrote: Mderg's vote analysis his last minute change to cav was not shown, but his flippy floppy votes are very scummy. He have repeatedly mention that he don't want to lynch cav : + Show Spoiler + On June 29 2014 05:41 mderg wrote: With Cav´s claim there´s no way we should lynch him now. I also don´t want to lynch sinani because I don´t think scum would actually react to the Robik fakeslip like he did. Still a better lynch than cav but I would rather lynch haru right now. On June 29 2014 05:59 mderg wrote: Ok, between cav and sinani I´d rather lynch sinani ##unvote ##vote sinani However, at the last minute, because apparently he saw exo's vote, he changed to cav. This is definitely scummy because it helps him look less scummy from being involved in a town lynch. Exo would look scummy for hopping in last minute, but mderg would look less. Also, he probably suspect cav as a real cop and thus wanted to lynch him (scum motive) if that was true. He could easily use the excuse of exo shifting votes to show that he was only reacting. I am sure there is a scum between cav and mderg. If cav flips blue (or green), mderg would be the biggest suspect for trying to lynch him despite crying out to town to not lynch him. On the other hand, if cav flips red, mderg is town because no scum would last minute change their vote to lynch their own scumbuddy. He could as easily remained on sinani lynch and save cav for a day. (actually, this might be what he did for posting during the time limit? <- WIFOM) I don´t get your reasoning. Let´s take a look at the different possible scenarios here. 1)my last vote switch counting and cav being cop: I would look scummy as fuck for last minute switching to the cop, like the scummiest player in the game. 2)my last vote switch counting and cav being scum: I would look super awesome for saving town from the mislynch and making the deciding vote on a scum. 3)my last vote switch not counting and sinani being scum: I would look extremely bad for attempting to switch at the last second 4)my last vote switch not counting and sinani being town: I don´t really look good but also not really bad for it summary: The last minute switch can only make me look good, if cav is scum. If he is town, I look bad. So why would I ever do this as scum? There would be no actual benefit for it. So the most logical explanation is that I am town and thought cav was scum/ was scared of Exo deciding the lynch I think you are making up reasons to make me look bad here. Your reasoning is wrong and if you had actually tried to find the mafia mindset behind my play, you would have seen that it just doesn´t make sense. I can´t imagine a townie drawing these conclusions. ##vote haru | ||
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On July 01 2014 00:44 IAmRobik wrote: They're just busing each other vivax....kill both of them. He won't take a stance on me cause he's afraid to call me mafia because (if i remember correctly) he called me town and he doesnt want to seem wishy washy He's probably also afraid that thread sentiment has me as town so he doesn't want to ruffle feathers, I am town though, so it's not a soft-push of his teammate (if that's something you're worried about) It´s funny how you assume I play even though you know pretty much nothing about my play. You give reasons for my reads that are just completely wrong and would even be wrong, if I was scum. I´m not afraid to call you mafia. I retracted my townread on you for a reason. I misjudged the fakeslip , I didn´t see how it would benefit scum at first. You probably are mafia. Your play so far hurt town, you´ve played a huge part in causing a mislynch and spread chaos with your shenanigans. Also I´m definitely not afraid of going against thread sentiment. The biggest reason why most people read you as town is that you did stupid shit and were emotional on the sinani lynch. Not really reasons one has to be afraid to go against. Overall you´re not as scummy as haru because there actually are reasons to townread you but they´re not very strong reasons. | ||
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On July 01 2014 06:11 IAmRobik wrote: for real though, mderg, your posts says nothing, it's stupid, and you're not even pressuring me, so the fact that you feel the need to write a whole paragraph about the fact that I'm scum is laughable and scummy in and of itself I think you´re just butthurt because you´re being called scum. | ||
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On July 01 2014 06:14 HaruRH wrote: He also felt the need to say that I'm more scummy than you despute him bringing out so much about you Aren´t you busy learning for your exams or something? | ||
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On July 01 2014 06:17 IAmRobik wrote: Well, when's someone is wrong, I kinda wanna find out whether they're wrong for the right reasons. If someone is wrong for stupid reasons, then I'm gonna call them out on it. And while I do want Germany to lose, I feel like you'd have a stronger reaction then "nice content" or wahtever the fuck you said Like what? | ||
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On July 01 2014 06:18 HaruRH wrote: I want to make a meme for mderg "Overall you´re not as scummy as haru because there actually are reasons to townread you but they´re not very strong reasons." Not a single reason stated why robik could be townread. thread sentiment was that robik is town because of his fakeclaims and being emotional about the sinani lynch. These are the reasons he could be townread for. | ||
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On July 01 2014 06:21 IAmRobik wrote: I don't know. But I'm sure that if you told me that you hope US loses to Belgium I'd retort with a lil' gfy because americans are patriotic as fuck. How does that even relate to this game? | ||
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On July 01 2014 06:24 HaruRH wrote: So you townread people because of thread sentiment? Wtf? Best reason 2014 Next you're telling me robik is town because it consist of 5 letters, like mderg while haru is 4 letters so hes scum I didn´t fucking townread him. | ||
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less scummy =/= town | ||
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On July 01 2014 06:30 HaruRH wrote: Fine, let me rephase it Haru less town than robik and mderg because haru have 1 less letter Thats why exo is top scum That´s totally related to this. | ||
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On July 01 2014 06:31 IAmRobik wrote: You totally ignored the part where I caught you lying where? | ||
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On July 01 2014 06:34 HaruRH wrote: I thought we were listing bullshit reasons to townread/read a scum more towny than other scum? Imagine this: 2 people are scummy, 1 of them has some small reasons to be slightly less scummy --> 1 is scummier than the other. Shouldn´t be that hard to understand. | ||
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On July 01 2014 06:37 HaruRH wrote: You still haven't explain what is that small reason properly And I won't take 'thread sentiment' as an answer It´s not thread sentiment, it´s the reasons for the thread sentiment being as it is. | ||
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On July 01 2014 06:43 HaruRH wrote: The reasons for voting me so far have been one liners, wifom of level 1000 or no reason at all. So how would you read the reason for thread sentiment thinking im scum? These reasons you want me to give don´t matter. I´ll try to explain this like for a 5 year old: I think you both are scummy for reasons I already gave, there´s no proper reason to townread you, there have been reasons mentioned in the thread that make robik slightly less scummy. The reasons to scumread you two has nothing to do with thread sentiment, the reasons why robik could be townread have been mentioned in the thread and they are not completely stupid or something, they´re just way to little to negate the scumread. Naturally, I think it´s better to lynch the scummier guy before the slightly less scummy guy. | ||
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On July 02 2014 05:19 Cavalinho wrote: Robik was just trying to lynch you for reasons that don't exist. I have no idea what he's doing now but I've pretty much shut him out completely. I know that already | ||
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On July 02 2014 05:21 IAmRobik wrote: Him blatantly lying is a bad reason? ooookay It was not a lie. | ||
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On July 02 2014 05:23 ExO_ wrote: Okay, I explained this earlier, but theres no way he and cav are both mafia, because mderg nearly got cav killed day 1 with that late vote switch that didn't count. So if cav was mafia mderg wouldn't have switched. So if you assume mderg is mafia and cav isnt then why is mderg switching to cav at the last second? mafia that don't have their plan in order by the last 60s are really sloppy. I dont believe as mafia that merg is switching that late, mafia were already voting and sticking by that point. mderg was a concerned town reacting to 2 last minute votes that´s spot on | ||
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It was null at the start of D2 but I´m heavily leaning scum on him. Robik is full of shit. | ||
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On July 02 2014 05:25 IAmRobik wrote: Actually, he's had me as his 2nd biggest scum read (if you read any of the fucking game)...which is inconsistent because he called me town earlier and then he rescinded that claim and then he said that he NEVER read me as town, but that there was a reason to read me as town and then that there was no reason to think i was town, but only that other people were thinking i was town. logicfailtothefuckingmax You´re referring to the townread I had D1 on you. That was never part of the discussion when my so called lie happened. I never tried to make it a secret that I had you as town D1. | ||
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If you actually read the posts that led to me saying that I didn´t townread Robik, it should be clear that it was referring to a specific situation of the game. Just to make that clear. Robik calling me a liar for that is just utterly ridiculous. | ||
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On July 02 2014 05:30 Cavalinho wrote: Give us the progression of your read on Robik. I first had him as town for his fakeslip, after vivax wrote his analysis on that I realized that there could be scum motives behind that, so back to null. Then he lied about shooting palmar for a completely stupid reason, so I was leaning scum on him. After he wrote all the stupid shit about me I was pretty sure he´s scum. | ||
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On July 01 2014 00:44 IAmRobik wrote: They're just busing each other vivax....kill both of them. He won't take a stance on me cause he's afraid to call me mafia because (if i remember correctly) he called me town and he doesnt want to seem wishy washy He's probably also afraid that thread sentiment has me as town so he doesn't want to ruffle feathers, I am town though, so it's not a soft-push of his teammate (if that's something you're worried about) this for example | ||
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On July 02 2014 05:41 kushm4sta wrote: mderg can you claim mafia now just so i dont have to wait and f9 a lot? I´m town, too bad for you. | ||
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On July 02 2014 05:43 Vivax wrote: Mderg if you are indeed town, then pin a guy who you think is trying to profit from the situation by defending you, for example. town should be able to do that by themselves. It´s not like there´s been an abundance of defenders for me. I don´t think Exo is trying to profit from it because he was spot on about my last minute vote switch, not impossible, though. Cav is more likely to do that because he didn´t completely know why I made my reads and is now slowly trying to scumread me. | ||
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On July 02 2014 05:50 ExO_ wrote: this is a scummy as fuck question to ask. If hes town, town would profit from defending him, no? There´s a slight possibility that someone would try to use being right to gain town credit. I think it´s unlikely, though. | ||
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On July 02 2014 05:50 IAmRobik wrote: For the record, people need to stop lying if they're town. You can try to explain yourself and why you made the mistake you made, but lying and sticking to your lie gets you lynched. If you're mafia, then keep it coming YOU ARE THE BIGGEST FUCKING LIAR IN THIS GAME! I ALREADY EXPLAINED WHY IT WAS NOT A FUCKING LIE! | ||
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On July 02 2014 05:51 Vivax wrote: I didn't find an important answer in your filter, so I'll ask it now: Why did you switch last minute to Cava at all if you previously said he shouldn't be lynched? Me and Koshi's votes? because exo switched like 10 seconds before deadline. And I did say that already. | ||
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On July 02 2014 05:53 IAmRobik wrote: Cool. So you know I was lying about being mafia. Thanks for the confirmation :D you lied about shooting palmar | ||
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On July 02 2014 05:54 Cavalinho wrote: I am actively trying to defend you you dingus. nobody believes you anyway. And I don´t really think you would try to profit, it´s just more likely that you tried that than exo. In a post after that I said that it´s unlikely anyone is trying to profit by defending me. | ||
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On July 02 2014 05:56 Vivax wrote: What kind of logic is that. You put your vote on who you think is scum, if you thought Cav should be lynched and exo was stopping you from doing it, why did you put your vote on sinani in the first place? I didn´t want to lynch any of them. There were some alarm lights after exo put down his votes in my head. | ||
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On July 02 2014 05:59 Rainbows wrote: exo cav mderg as town? | ||
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