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On July 04 2014 10:21 Vivax wrote:This is what you wrote earlier about me Poofter which is not only fundamentally wrong for the majority of the game, but is also the main trait Exo has been displaying lately by continuosly pushing me and Haru with his little speeches when he could have discussed a multitude of other things. Show nested quote +I will conceed that if Vivax is town I might lose the game for us and I can maybe reconsider but honestly I don't see him being town with the way he has handled Cav as well as him just in generally harping similar points repeatedly as opposed to looking in different directions.
The main difference is the player Vivax you have more experience on TL and therefore would know better than to do this as town. ExO on the otherhand would tend to do what hes doing more as town than as scum.
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On July 04 2014 10:25 Rainbows wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2014 10:22 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 04 2014 10:15 Rainbows wrote:
Cav / Poof / ExO makes incredible amounts of sense, because both poof and exo were the ones advocating that cav is probably the cop most of the game, whilst most of the town were really speculative on the issue. Also both ExO and Poof didn't vote on Cav in the day 1 lynch. Ofc this is only if cav is mafia, but out of OO / Cav if one is scum it's probably Cav. I thought the theory was if Cav is real the mafia are calling him town to look better when he flips. That makes more sense to me. I find it hard to believe that Me Cav and Exo did like a super hero group thing held hands and said "TOGETHER TO TEH END" and just backed up cav the whole game. Exactly? That's what you and exo have been doing, calling him town. Although IDK how calling cav town if he's scum makes one look any better.
SO HOW IS THE TEAM ME EXO AND CAV THEN if me nad EXO think hes been cop the whole game. Like maybe I'm wrong maybe he is mafia nad i've been pocketed but if were mafia together gee I sure do look stupid if he flips red.
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On July 04 2014 10:25 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2014 10:21 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 04 2014 10:18 Vivax wrote:
You misunderstand Poofter. What I mean with timing is that you only start trying to consider that I'm town when most of the thread contrasted your opinion and called you scum. I've considered it several times (when you started to come around to thinking cav was cop before then berating him more honestly I had that post where you typed for the modkill a bunch on ExO as really townie cause it seemed like a joke but I then read on and saw you were serious and think thats not the case) and I STILL DONT THINK YOU:"RE TOWN NOW. but If I'm going to be lynched town loses regardless of your alignment so if you are town reaching out to you is a good idea because in that particular circumstance maybe town can win. If you're mafia its a fruitless effort and I die and town loses but if not we have a shot. Ok, then let's play the game. In your opinion I should probably lynch Haru, convince me why he's scum in a quick rundown of what you found scummy about him and I'll look at that.
well if you're town then I think between Haru and rainbows it doesn't matter.
Haru's play has been disconjointed from the thread. He almost got lynched yesterday but it was pulled off him (i was one of the ones advocating mderg so doesn't help me look townier if hes scum but still) Mafia would want to keep him aslive as long as he could. So the fact he went from a front runner to nothing without really putting up that huge of a defense and the lynch bandwagoned onto a townie doesn't look good for him.
He came out after night kills day 1 and immediately started voting cav. I feel like this serves a purpose for scum regardless of Cav's alignment because he can claim "Hey I thought the cop was mafia if he flips green and maybe start a chain lynch onto Cav since he didn't kill him at night Or if cav is mafia he looks really good as the first person to start throwing doubt/votes on him and can point back to it later. (In video mafia we call this "Hipster mafia" they were thinking x was scum before it was cool)
Rainbows who is the other one here if you're town and ExO is town (spoilers I think ExO is way more likely to be town) He has coasted off this day 1 town read the whole game. He is all too eager to show up on the right side of the votes basically following others around wihtout pushing his own cases very hard. Basically it seems like to me he is giving his input only when necessary.
Rainbows also has been on the same side of things as you Vivax I think and your push on Haru makes me think he is likely to be partnered with you. It feels like he also hasn't had much interaction with you this game no real conversations which is typical of scum teammates.
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On July 04 2014 10:33 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2014 10:27 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 04 2014 10:25 Rainbows wrote:On July 04 2014 10:22 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 04 2014 10:15 Rainbows wrote:
Cav / Poof / ExO makes incredible amounts of sense, because both poof and exo were the ones advocating that cav is probably the cop most of the game, whilst most of the town were really speculative on the issue. Also both ExO and Poof didn't vote on Cav in the day 1 lynch. Ofc this is only if cav is mafia, but out of OO / Cav if one is scum it's probably Cav. I thought the theory was if Cav is real the mafia are calling him town to look better when he flips. That makes more sense to me. I find it hard to believe that Me Cav and Exo did like a super hero group thing held hands and said "TOGETHER TO TEH END" and just backed up cav the whole game. Exactly? That's what you and exo have been doing, calling him town. Although IDK how calling cav town if he's scum makes one look any better. SO HOW IS THE TEAM ME EXO AND CAV THEN if me nad EXO think hes been cop the whole game. Like maybe I'm wrong maybe he is mafia nad i've been pocketed but if were mafia together gee I sure do look stupid if he flips red. The only reason you'd look stupid if he flipped red is cause you didn't try to get a read on him the old fashioned way after he claimed. You were basically very comfy letting him slide only based on his claim, regardless of his real alignment. At least I tried to check your filter for instances where you try to figure out Cav post cop-claim but I can't find them.
I explained it in one post in my filter here: (bolded and underlined the important part for your convenience) + Show Spoiler +On June 30 2014 14:29 Tehpoofter wrote:
Good news boys I'll fully caught up Yesterday's lynch was really interesting. I think flipping Cav could give us a lot of information but I'm actually on the believing his claim side of things.
Townville: Tehpoofter
Kush - Claiming vigi and actually seems to give a fuck this game, is reaching out to people in thread like myself to play up, never lynching.
Rainbows- I liked your posts midway through yesterday and today as well as your huge post in the night. My big question is why did you stay on Cav at EoD? I still don't think you'd be anywhere near my lynch list today.
Robik - Day 1 was super townie he was doing a bunch of stuff that looks scummy as fuck but from my experience with him is most likely to be town. I will say that him being scum in order surprised me so I moved him down today for a couple things in the fact that he is falling off a bit and he claimed the shot from kush before kush claimed it was his shot. Now I feel like if he thought there was only one mafia kill Palmer was less likely to be a mafia target than Koshi but still could have been a TMI slip
OO - He gets into the town because reading his posts anytime he did something I found scummy he followed it up with towniness. I even have a post where I thoguht he was scum then his next post put me at ease.
People who confuse me:
Vivax - His thing with Palmer early day 1 felt really scummy and I didn't really care for his EoD but his conversation he had with mderg mid day as well as others trying it seemed to talk to whoever about a couple of people felt less tunneled than he was being on Palmer. Maybe he just backed off staying tunneled on Palmer because I called him out or maybe he is town idk Cop check this person imo.
People that are really bad at playing cop or mafia:
Cav - If you're cop stop claiming on day 1 please lord. This feels like your newbie game when you had to claim and still got lynched. I am okay leaving you alive for now because if you're cop mafia might kill you or just spam rb and if you keep claiming rb and someone else gets rb you're basically confirmed mafia so even if you're mafia mafia is out their RB ability so town can do as they please basically.
People who need to have a date with a big fire:
Exo - This guys vote at EoD is really weird he pops in it at odd times and I feel like he doesn't know what to say. I think this is like a classic mafia tell. They know they should talk but don't know what to say. I think that him saying he got a warning for activity and talking about how things are all spammy and he needs to write down his ideas is an easy thing for scum to do. He seems upset he has to post which I don't see as townie. Also I feel like in a world where
Mderg - I always find mderg's play awkward and scummy hes in the same boat as Vivax in my opinion but I feel like vivax has done some townie things. Mderg has not his EoD was really weird I feel like he didn't really mind who got lynched. Which makes me think Cav is more town if Mderg is mafia.
Haru - Instantly comes out with the vote on Cav if it turns out Cav is mafia I feel like this is exactly what he would do. I also liked someone's point that it felt like he was going to transition from a cav red to an mderg lynch which is the kind of planning I feel like scum do more than town. I lynched him last game because of his playstyle so I'm most hesitant about this read.
I'm out for a bit playing dailymafia.
Basically Cav being alive insures us that mafia has no way of blocking roles. Because either Cav gets role blocked every night or killed as town or they can't rb others if they do then Cav has to say he checked someone and finds himself in a really shitty spot as scum. In my mind it would be a claim he can't win with as scum but I'm not going ot help scum out by freeing up their role block and getting a free lynch for them on the cop if hes real. If OO is medic and Cav was fake I'd have expected him to come out of the day knowing its lylo ready to just bury Cav instead hes bored playing his game apparently doesn't claim until like 30 hours into the game. And now it makes it hard to decide between them.
So basically you're correct I didn't mind what his alignment was I wanted to find scum outside that as I don't like playing into meta mafia (it happens a lot on video)
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On July 04 2014 10:35 Vivax wrote:
Also can you show me exactly where your read on Exo went from superscum to supertownie?
I will once you answer some questions for me.
1) Why am I the most likely one to be scum?
2) What is the team if I'm town?
3) Which between Cav/OO do you think is real and why?
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NO PEAKING UNTIL YOU ANSWER ME VIVAX
+ Show Spoiler +I'm too impatient to wait for you and work is mega slow. Exo's confidence coming out in this day has really turned me to him being town. Like I can't imagine a scumExO coming into lylo ready to do battle like this or pushing his reads or in that case misslynches so heavily. I feel like he would be one ot sit back and not say anything or at least only speak up in small enough bursts. Like ExOscum at lylo feels like the Don't get lynched type vs the find hte misslynch type. You know what I mean?
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Rainbows/Haru/OO/Cav what do you guys think of Me and Vivax's alignment? Is there a mafia in there if so who?
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On July 04 2014 11:06 Rainbows wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2014 10:44 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 04 2014 10:25 Vivax wrote:On July 04 2014 10:21 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 04 2014 10:18 Vivax wrote:
You misunderstand Poofter. What I mean with timing is that you only start trying to consider that I'm town when most of the thread contrasted your opinion and called you scum. I've considered it several times (when you started to come around to thinking cav was cop before then berating him more honestly I had that post where you typed for the modkill a bunch on ExO as really townie cause it seemed like a joke but I then read on and saw you were serious and think thats not the case) and I STILL DONT THINK YOU:"RE TOWN NOW. but If I'm going to be lynched town loses regardless of your alignment so if you are town reaching out to you is a good idea because in that particular circumstance maybe town can win. If you're mafia its a fruitless effort and I die and town loses but if not we have a shot. Ok, then let's play the game. In your opinion I should probably lynch Haru, convince me why he's scum in a quick rundown of what you found scummy about him and I'll look at that. Rainbows also has been on the same side of things as you Vivax I think and your push on Haru makes me think he is likely to be partnered with you. It feels like he also hasn't had much interaction with you this game no real conversations which is typical of scum teammates. Show nested quote +On July 04 2014 10:22 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 04 2014 10:15 Rainbows wrote:
Cav / Poof / ExO makes incredible amounts of sense, because both poof and exo were the ones advocating that cav is probably the cop most of the game, whilst most of the town were really speculative on the issue. Also both ExO and Poof didn't vote on Cav in the day 1 lynch. Ofc this is only if cav is mafia, but out of OO / Cav if one is scum it's probably Cav. I thought the theory was if Cav is real the mafia are calling him town to look better when he flips. That makes more sense to me. I find it hard to believe that Me Cav and Exo did like a super hero group thing held hands and said "TOGETHER TO TEH END" and just backed up cav the whole game. How come me and vivax are scum together bc we think the same, but you / exo are not scum for thinking the same? Logic.
Cause I know my alignment is town its obviously from my PoV.
Why is Exo scum?
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On July 04 2014 11:19 Rainbows wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2014 11:15 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 04 2014 11:06 Rainbows wrote:On July 04 2014 10:44 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 04 2014 10:25 Vivax wrote:On July 04 2014 10:21 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 04 2014 10:18 Vivax wrote:
You misunderstand Poofter. What I mean with timing is that you only start trying to consider that I'm town when most of the thread contrasted your opinion and called you scum. I've considered it several times (when you started to come around to thinking cav was cop before then berating him more honestly I had that post where you typed for the modkill a bunch on ExO as really townie cause it seemed like a joke but I then read on and saw you were serious and think thats not the case) and I STILL DONT THINK YOU:"RE TOWN NOW. but If I'm going to be lynched town loses regardless of your alignment so if you are town reaching out to you is a good idea because in that particular circumstance maybe town can win. If you're mafia its a fruitless effort and I die and town loses but if not we have a shot. Ok, then let's play the game. In your opinion I should probably lynch Haru, convince me why he's scum in a quick rundown of what you found scummy about him and I'll look at that. Rainbows also has been on the same side of things as you Vivax I think and your push on Haru makes me think he is likely to be partnered with you. It feels like he also hasn't had much interaction with you this game no real conversations which is typical of scum teammates. On July 04 2014 10:22 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 04 2014 10:15 Rainbows wrote:
Cav / Poof / ExO makes incredible amounts of sense, because both poof and exo were the ones advocating that cav is probably the cop most of the game, whilst most of the town were really speculative on the issue. Also both ExO and Poof didn't vote on Cav in the day 1 lynch. Ofc this is only if cav is mafia, but out of OO / Cav if one is scum it's probably Cav. I thought the theory was if Cav is real the mafia are calling him town to look better when he flips. That makes more sense to me. I find it hard to believe that Me Cav and Exo did like a super hero group thing held hands and said "TOGETHER TO TEH END" and just backed up cav the whole game. How come me and vivax are scum together bc we think the same, but you / exo are not scum for thinking the same? Logic. Cause I know my alignment is town its obviously from my PoV. Why is Exo scum? No no you don't understand. You can't possibly make the argument that me and vivax are scumbuddies based on the logic "If they back each other / think the same, they are scum" because you have shown to be doing the same thing. If you are town, then your own logic doesn't make sense because you know you are town and have taken a side with ExO, and you would know that doesn't equal mafia.
I think its also odd that you two haven't had any interaction or really suspected each other too much. The other sign of scum buddies.
I agree its not the same but I have my information I know nothing of you. You could use the same on me and I wouldn't fault you for it cause you don't know I'm town.
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On July 04 2014 11:25 Rainbows wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2014 11:21 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 04 2014 11:19 Rainbows wrote:On July 04 2014 11:15 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 04 2014 11:06 Rainbows wrote:On July 04 2014 10:44 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 04 2014 10:25 Vivax wrote:On July 04 2014 10:21 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 04 2014 10:18 Vivax wrote:
You misunderstand Poofter. What I mean with timing is that you only start trying to consider that I'm town when most of the thread contrasted your opinion and called you scum. I've considered it several times (when you started to come around to thinking cav was cop before then berating him more honestly I had that post where you typed for the modkill a bunch on ExO as really townie cause it seemed like a joke but I then read on and saw you were serious and think thats not the case) and I STILL DONT THINK YOU:"RE TOWN NOW. but If I'm going to be lynched town loses regardless of your alignment so if you are town reaching out to you is a good idea because in that particular circumstance maybe town can win. If you're mafia its a fruitless effort and I die and town loses but if not we have a shot. Ok, then let's play the game. In your opinion I should probably lynch Haru, convince me why he's scum in a quick rundown of what you found scummy about him and I'll look at that. Rainbows also has been on the same side of things as you Vivax I think and your push on Haru makes me think he is likely to be partnered with you. It feels like he also hasn't had much interaction with you this game no real conversations which is typical of scum teammates. On July 04 2014 10:22 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 04 2014 10:15 Rainbows wrote:
Cav / Poof / ExO makes incredible amounts of sense, because both poof and exo were the ones advocating that cav is probably the cop most of the game, whilst most of the town were really speculative on the issue. Also both ExO and Poof didn't vote on Cav in the day 1 lynch. Ofc this is only if cav is mafia, but out of OO / Cav if one is scum it's probably Cav. I thought the theory was if Cav is real the mafia are calling him town to look better when he flips. That makes more sense to me. I find it hard to believe that Me Cav and Exo did like a super hero group thing held hands and said "TOGETHER TO TEH END" and just backed up cav the whole game. How come me and vivax are scum together bc we think the same, but you / exo are not scum for thinking the same? Logic. Cause I know my alignment is town its obviously from my PoV. Why is Exo scum? No no you don't understand. You can't possibly make the argument that me and vivax are scumbuddies based on the logic "If they back each other / think the same, they are scum" because you have shown to be doing the same thing. If you are town, then your own logic doesn't make sense because you know you are town and have taken a side with ExO, and you would know that doesn't equal mafia. I think its also odd that you two haven't had any interaction or really suspected each other too much. The other sign of scum buddies. I agree its not the same but I have my information I know nothing of you. You could use the same on me and I wouldn't fault you for it cause you don't know I'm town. So you know I'm not mafia?
I don't know that but I assume you would take things from that point of view if you were town.
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On July 04 2014 11:26 Rainbows wrote:
Poof my head hurts deciphering this.
TLDR: You need to realize I'm Town voting me loses the game
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Rainbows who of the unconfirm do think is mafia if its not me?? You have to live in the world where I'm town who is mafia?
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On July 04 2014 11:49 Vivax wrote:You know, I've reread Haru a little and his participation cooled off so drastically lately that I'm playing with the thought I might indeed have been wrong about gutreading him town for all the weird stuff he has been saying early on. There are also holes in some of the stuff he said D1. He called TP, kush and mderg scum for calling him scum, more or less, and then ended up only pushing mderg constantly. Show nested quote +On July 04 2014 10:57 Tehpoofter wrote:NO PEAKING UNTIL YOU ANSWER ME VIVAX + Show Spoiler +I'm too impatient to wait for you and work is mega slow. Exo's confidence coming out in this day has really turned me to him being town. Like I can't imagine a scumExO coming into lylo ready to do battle like this or pushing his reads or in that case misslynches so heavily. I feel like he would be one ot sit back and not say anything or at least only speak up in small enough bursts. Like ExOscum at lylo feels like the Don't get lynched type vs the find hte misslynch type. You know what I mean? Nope, overconfidence at lylo is a scumtell imo. Not so much in plurality as in instant majority. Got caught in voice mafia once cause I was too eager to push a single guy at lylo and treat the puppet as if I was super confident that he was town. It's situational but in this case I would say that Exo's confidence should at best be treated as null cause there are multiple scenarios where he can show it. Show nested quote +On July 04 2014 10:52 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 04 2014 10:35 Vivax wrote:
Also can you show me exactly where your read on Exo went from superscum to supertownie? I will once you answer some questions for me. 1) Why am I the most likely one to be scum? 2) What is the team if I'm town? 3) Which between Cav/OO do you think is real and why? 1) I've mentioned what I didn't like about you. The feeling that you were trying to keep your head low for example .The way you didn't try to figure out if Cav was town or scum based on some reasoning as to why he should be kept alive for mafia to waste roleblocks. Even if you say mafia has to waste roleblocks on him, that's unrelated to his alignment cause they have to do it either way, and that leaves us with you not trying to figure it out over the course of the game. 2) Currently rolling with OO being medic. I have to say that the trolly way he plays the game doesn't look like I know him as scum, where he tends to write longish (and serious), kinda nervous posts but on the other hand I don't think that's how a townie should play. The scumread on me that appeared out of nowhere does however trouble me ,as do all the claims in this game except for kush's. We neither have proof that there has to be a medic in the game nor proof that there's a cop which is very much in mafia's favour. That said, I'll assume for this question that he isn't scum. If you aren't scum then it'd be Haru/Exo/Cav by PoE. 3) As for what I said about OO, see the above. As to why I think Cav is a good candidate for scum is a lot of the way he played D1, already explained it: Starts by playing low profile or lazy or whatever, when it gets hot he drops a massive post, then claims and stops doing anything after his claim when he should still have been super active. To me that read like scum claiming, closing his eyes to the discussion and waiting for a counterclaim if you ask me. Just this was enough to give me the persistent strong feeling that he's scum.
You're not taking into account the fact that ExO is newer to these forums. As mafia most new players play different than vets who have play lots of games. They come in confident or at least assured they know where the game has gone wrong as town. AS scum they come in timid knowing whats going wrong and they do I think like you said sometimes tunnel hard on someone knowing it leads them to victory but I get more of a confidence htat hes right and not just about todays lynch but future lynches Mafia wouldn't think like that they think for 1 day only.
The fact you can't read ExO as town makes me think you're leaving him there to reevaluate possibly swing a lynch onto if you can't get me or something as scum. bleh.
The Haru reevaluation is good. I think he has a chance of flipping scum but I'm worried its where you might go if people start realizing I'm town... why not Rainbows?
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Oh as to the Cav thing again I've said it before in my head i thought if Cav was mafia it would become VERY obvious someone would claim in a townie way and it would be just like insta lynch Cav or he would die or just become confirmed at some point. I thuoght OO did it in a scummy way which through a wrench in what I thoguht would happen. I said something to robik about it here.
On July 01 2014 09:46 Tehpoofter wrote:
Since Im apparently just talking to myself. A couple thoughts for the game. Why is everyone town reading Vivax? I really don't see it. I feel like his game play has not been townie. I think that he is probably upset that Palmer got shot because it gave him an easy tunnel and that was taken from him. He also is really playing up the Koshi kill making him look good which is scummy. Idk someone just let me know what I'm missing.
I think that Robik and me are on the same page when it comes to Cav and how to handle him... at least I hope so by the way he is talking. So I feel like scum would have to kill both of us to play out the Cav situation in their favor. I'm sure others know what to do to but Look for guidance on that from Robik should I not be here.
How many PRs does HF usually put into his games? (This one probably not best for discussions in thread but more of a food for thought)
I'm going to look at other shit on here but I should be around for a couple hours.
As its a common play in video mafia.
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On July 04 2014 12:06 Vivax wrote:
Hey Poofter I thought we were still playing the game where we both consider ourselves townies for the moment.
I'm trying but you are making it difficult.
So I saw the haru thing it is an odd line for scum what about rainbows?
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On July 04 2014 12:22 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2014 14:29 Tehpoofter wrote:
People who need to have a date with a big fire:
Exo - This guys vote at EoD is really weird he pops in it at odd times and I feel like he doesn't know what to say. I think this is like a classic mafia tell. They know they should talk but don't know what to say. I think that him saying he got a warning for activity and talking about how things are all spammy and he needs to write down his ideas is an easy thing for scum to do. He seems upset he has to post which I don't see as townie. Also I feel like in a world where
Mderg - I always find mderg's play awkward and scummy hes in the same boat as Vivax in my opinion but I feel like vivax has done some townie things. Mderg has not his EoD was really weird I feel like he didn't really mind who got lynched. Which makes me think Cav is more town if Mderg is mafia.
Haru - Instantly comes out with the vote on Cav if it turns out Cav is mafia I feel like this is exactly what he would do. I also liked someone's point that it felt like he was going to transition from a cav red to an mderg lynch which is the kind of planning I feel like scum do more than town. I lynched him last game because of his playstyle so I'm most hesitant about this read.
I'm out for a bit playing dailymafia. Show nested quote +On July 04 2014 08:37 Tehpoofter wrote:
Please convince me why I'm wrong on Vivax. Like honestly he was even hoping Exo would get mod killed when Exo is the most obvious town in this game. Can you explain the evolution of your read on Exo? I see it 180ing somewhere in between these posts but don't know exactly why you're so confident about him being x or y and never something in between.
The first read was made 5 days before the other one so to me it just because I thought to think that Cav was more town thus ExO's vote to "save" him didn't seem as scummy as well as the way he was posting. I've said it a bunch today but his play has really really put him over the edge. We obviously read the confidence thing differently (or there is another reason which I can't say)
Like basically for me it has become a large PoE starting the day I needed to have my eyes open for someone I found townie and if I get that right I increase my odds of hitting a mafia a LOT at lylo I think its a very good strategy. Exo stood out ot me. From playing with him in Order he has the new town type feel to me. Like he wants his reads to be right hes confident in them uses everything he can to make them seem right. He has no problem posting a lot and about whatever he is thinking. As scum I don't think he has that confidence and most likely stays in the shadows. His attitude today has made him town adn I find it hard to believe you can't see that. Even kush who is reading me wrong at least sees that. Honestly if ExO is mafia well played sir you have done beautifully today.
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On July 04 2014 12:28 Vivax wrote:
Whatever man, I'm quite sure Poofter is scum at this point and this conversation is just too slow for my taste.
The tough one will be choosing the right dudes between Cav/haru/exo.
The impass at last sorry my logic and reason isn't townie enough for you ( or you're ignoring it as scum) because if you really are town were basically fucked. Like town has no chance even if one of us doesn't die today scum can just sit back and pin us against each other every day.
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Would be nice if we had people around that could give their reads on me and vivax.
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On July 04 2014 12:39 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2014 12:32 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 04 2014 12:28 Vivax wrote:
Whatever man, I'm quite sure Poofter is scum at this point and this conversation is just too slow for my taste.
The tough one will be choosing the right dudes between Cav/haru/exo. The impass at last sorry my logic and reason isn't townie enough for you ( or you're ignoring it as scum) because if you really are town were basically fucked. Like town has no chance even if one of us doesn't die today scum can just sit back and pin us against each other every day. Dude I just keep reading about your townreads and scumreads at different points and it's just a fucking salad with mostly connection based stuff. At some point you even include Cav as possible mafia but still you never argue why he should be mafia, and when I ask you why, you reply with something unrelated saying that scum has to burn roleblocks on him. In one post you say I did some townie things in another you say you can't see at all what's townie about me. After N2 ended I'm suddenly your super scumread and wagon of justice while D2 you had Exo, mderg and haru as main scumreads, and that's the day you said "VIvax did some townie things." and and and I don't even feel like going on with the other stuff I find suspicious cause you most likely die today. And btw you shouldn't forget about the shit you post. Show nested quote +On July 01 2014 16:37 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 01 2014 15:46 kushm4sta wrote:
its the kushm4sta
the assblaster
the mind infiltrator
the mafia regulator
btw at lylo we are massclaiming and if shit looks fishy, cavo is getting lynched. he is so scummy . he's probably scum. I think he's probably the cop but yeah lylo time is Cav dead time.
Yep I have changed my reads a lot I do that as town cause I have to figure the game out I evolve with it. I think Someone is town or mafia depending upon the day and how votes are going. You have been consistently in my scum reads since day 1 I would say that is my most consistent read. I didn't like your interaction with Palmer. So I find it odd that you think evolving reads are some how scummy. Especially over the course of the game. I feel like as mafia you would see a clearer concise picture that only changed when it benefited someone how have my reads changing benefited me?
Also yes I'm done with the cav thing I have no clue his alignment because of the way OO is playing I assumed if someone claimed another PR they would claim it in a townie fashion and we would lynch Cav but OO could easily be mafia trying to get that doubt out there with the way he played it so my view on that has changed. Cav could still be mafia his absence as of late is very odd in that regard. (Although OO Haru Rainbows have all been equally uninvolved today) Also OO could just be claiming in a bad way as town but I didn't perceive this to happen so it changes.
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