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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
June 30 2014 00:14 GMT
#1741
On June 30 2014 09:11 Release wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 09:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 30 2014 09:08 Release wrote:
On June 30 2014 09:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I saved myself on N2 you numbnuggets.

I was fully prepared to make a case on how "Artanis must have saved Release" N2. Never cam to that.

My initial read on you was right. Stupid town consensus townreading you leading to me townreading you as well
Did get you from the grave though! PMed this to Kurumi 30 min before deadline.
Original Message From Artanis[Xp]:
Going with a Koshi/Release scumteam. Honestly hope Koshi is scum more than anything because this'd be a really sad display of his towngame if it is.

Also, is there a scum qt?

http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/a7jPbWLJHBhW

Let me one up you. I called Artanis medic on N1.

Hm, what made you think I was doc?
On June 30 2014 09:12 Koshi wrote:
Who did you safe on N1 Artanis?

I saved GK until 30 min before deadline when I switched to SlOosh even though my townread on him was weaker just because I thought he was more likely to get shot.
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
June 30 2014 00:14 GMT
#1742
Snickers checke mderg?
lol, clueless in The Prism!
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 30 2014 00:15 GMT
#1743
No, Snickers had 3 checks, all green. Since mderg a scum was dead, Snickers cannot be insane and have 3 red checks without interference of a framer / GF.
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
June 30 2014 00:17 GMT
#1744
On June 30 2014 09:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 09:11 Release wrote:
On June 30 2014 09:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 30 2014 09:08 Release wrote:
On June 30 2014 09:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I saved myself on N2 you numbnuggets.

I was fully prepared to make a case on how "Artanis must have saved Release" N2. Never cam to that.

My initial read on you was right. Stupid town consensus townreading you leading to me townreading you as well
Did get you from the grave though! PMed this to Kurumi 30 min before deadline.
Original Message From Artanis[Xp]:
Going with a Koshi/Release scumteam. Honestly hope Koshi is scum more than anything because this'd be a really sad display of his towngame if it is.

Also, is there a scum qt?

http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/a7jPbWLJHBhW

Let me one up you. I called Artanis medic on N1.

Hm, what made you think I was doc?
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 09:12 Koshi wrote:
Who did you safe on N1 Artanis?

I saved GK until 30 min before deadline when I switched to SlOosh even though my townread on him was weaker just because I thought he was more likely to get shot.

You attacked me and reconsidered. I felt that a VT would have gone ham and probed for information (like Snickers, who actually turned out to be Detective) for longer than 1 post before changing their mind.
☺
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
June 30 2014 00:17 GMT
#1745
Well, this game we had a sane cop give us 3 green checks and we lynched 2 of them.

sigh
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 30 2014 00:18 GMT
#1746
On June 30 2014 09:13 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 09:10 slOosh wrote:
You would throw away the read that you've been developing for literally the whole game because of a greencheck?


You have no idea how much I wanted to lynch/push you, but refrained, because you had a greencheck on you. yes, slOosh, I would.

Look, obviously this is my fault for getting lynched at LYLO. I failed to adequately convince you of my towniness. Hell, I had a greencheck on me, it should have been easy. I had the scumteam pegged, I had all the right reads, I even convinced the other townie to vote the right way, but I couldn't convince YOU. I fucked up.

But part of this is on you, too, for having me as scum and not town. Maybe this isn't majority your fault; after all, I was the one who got lynched. But you still voted the wrong way at lylo, so yes, maybe you should re-evaluate your read because of a greencheck.

Don't get me wrong BH, I'm not blaming you for losing or anything.

By the time of Snicker's claim, it was already heavily engrained in my mind that you were scum, and everything was distorted to look like you were doing scum things. I wasn't willing to listen because you were scum doing scum things.

Maybe I would have been too bullheaded to change my mind even had you addressed the concerns that I had, but you didn't talk about them and talked up the checks. At that point I was like, oh obviously GF is a role, he must be it.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 30 2014 00:18 GMT
#1747
Snickers is a sick player btw. I don't know how he reads people. But he had instantly the scumteam pegged. Insane stuff.

So much respect to this guy. Just didn't get enough love from town. But the things he wrote were spot on.

On June 19 2014 04:51 Snickers wrote:
You are an idiot or scum if you can't "see" the scum in mderg's first post. First off saying there is a chance you are only going to contribute one post to day one. This shows his terrible interest in this game. Then he tries to say he votes to prevent mod kill. Id rather him be modkilled than him help lynch someone because he felt a slight scum. You guys must have played so many games of mafia you cannot think logically. You have these rules that you hold so highly. Even if these rules were true you guys cannot even use them right. So assuming they are true they still are no use. And somebody mentioned something about release. If you can't see the scum in his post there is a problem or you are scum.

I cannot believe no one mentioned this aspect of this game. 27nb had the same principles in her posts from the start. Confused, emotional, silly. So has ykz. Cocky , deceiving, focused. We know 27nb was town. If ykz is mafia he is very good at it. Even after the proof that he was wrong or was lying. He perfectly continues his principals after the lynch. Release on the other hand had been inconsistent with his principals. He seems aggressive than passive.
Reactionary than static. I think it should be looked into. I won't be able to post or read until six hours from now. I will look at be (whoever name keeps getting mentioned).

Also koshi seems to be obsessed with me. I am thinking him as third mafia.

I had a good night of sleep.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
June 30 2014 00:20 GMT
#1748
On June 30 2014 09:17 Release wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 09:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 30 2014 09:11 Release wrote:
On June 30 2014 09:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 30 2014 09:08 Release wrote:
On June 30 2014 09:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I saved myself on N2 you numbnuggets.

I was fully prepared to make a case on how "Artanis must have saved Release" N2. Never cam to that.

My initial read on you was right. Stupid town consensus townreading you leading to me townreading you as well
Did get you from the grave though! PMed this to Kurumi 30 min before deadline.
Original Message From Artanis[Xp]:
Going with a Koshi/Release scumteam. Honestly hope Koshi is scum more than anything because this'd be a really sad display of his towngame if it is.

Also, is there a scum qt?

http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/a7jPbWLJHBhW

Let me one up you. I called Artanis medic on N1.

Hm, what made you think I was doc?
On June 30 2014 09:12 Koshi wrote:
Who did you safe on N1 Artanis?

I saved GK until 30 min before deadline when I switched to SlOosh even though my townread on him was weaker just because I thought he was more likely to get shot.

You attacked me and reconsidered. I felt that a VT would have gone ham and probed for information (like Snickers, who actually turned out to be Detective) for longer than 1 post before changing their mind.

I don't think my role was related to that honestly. I noticed a town consensus against it and felt my read wasn't strong enough to continue, but I might be biased in it. I've changed my opinions a lot this game.

On D1 I decided to go for a different style this time. Usually I just spout all my reads into the thread but I tried asking questions more now to see who had similar thought processes as me. Landed me a townread on GK, but eventually I just fell back into my usual routine after D1

I felt the VE and Lazer lynches were easily avoidable. VE played to his current town meta to a tee and BH should be ashamed of lynching him. Lazer shit townie bricks on D4 whereas Koshi went afk and I can't believe you guys lynched Lazer over Koshi that day.
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
June 30 2014 00:21 GMT
#1749
Hey guys, don't feel bad! Hopefully I will host Kaller 2: Electric Boogaloo soon enough! Bastard game! Nukes for everyone! Stalin trying to kill all his scum mates! Crazed Man trying to destroy the world!
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 30 2014 00:21 GMT
#1750
Yea the Lazer lynch was all my fault my bad. At the time I was thinking a BH Lazer scum team picking on Koshi.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 30 2014 00:22 GMT
#1751
4 misslynches because 1 docsave is insane btw. This set-up needed to be done with 1 townie less from the start.

A selfhealing doc and a sane cop vs a framer. And when the doc gets 1 heal off there are 4 misslynches needed for mafia? Come on... That's insane.
I had a good night of sleep.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
June 30 2014 00:23 GMT
#1752
10v3 is standard Koshi, 4 mislynches vs 3 correct lynches is pretty normal in minis.
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
June 30 2014 00:24 GMT
#1753
The sane cop is somewhat misleading because there likely exists a mafia alignment changing counterpart, and he does not know that he is sane.
☺
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 30 2014 00:24 GMT
#1754
That's really though on mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
June 30 2014 00:25 GMT
#1755
On June 30 2014 09:24 Koshi wrote:
That's really though on mafia.

I don't have the numbers but I'm quite sure mafia has a winning record in a standard 10v3 setup.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 30 2014 00:25 GMT
#1756
Man I played like garbage huh?

Like I don't even know what to take away from this game. Trust greenchecks more?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-30 00:27:28
June 30 2014 00:26 GMT
#1757
On June 30 2014 09:25 slOosh wrote:
Man I played like garbage huh?

Like I don't even know what to take away from this game. Trust greenchecks more?

Don't lynch people with high post count.

24nb has a bigger filter than me and she died D1.



Same for BH with 14 pages.
I had a good night of sleep.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
June 30 2014 00:27 GMT
#1758
On June 30 2014 09:26 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 09:25 slOosh wrote:
Man I played like garbage huh?

Like I don't even know what to take away from this game. Trust greenchecks more?

Don't lynch people with high post count.

24nb has a bigger filter than me and she died D1.

She had a high post count in Cell Mini II too though and she was scum there. Filter length isn't a scumtell for her. I'm not sure how to read her.
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
June 30 2014 00:29 GMT
#1759
On June 30 2014 09:25 slOosh wrote:
Man I played like garbage huh?

Like I don't even know what to take away from this game. Trust greenchecks more?

Revaluate the game, especially in MYLO. Just write down what you think about the game and reread last couple cycles. Noticed something new? Something that was obvious to you is now in muddy waters? It's all about doubting yourself in the right moment - so you can figure the gaps in your own logic.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
goodkarma
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1067 Posts
June 30 2014 00:36 GMT
#1760
Told ya Release was good chance of being scum lol.

Also, policy lynching BH if he ever brings up Kenpachi rule again...
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