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Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 26 2014 18:27 GMT
#1461
Forgive me trippleposting...

So, what was it that I really wanted to say here? Well, we could argue all day about checks and what not but the fact remains that it is far more likely that a check is correct than incorrect. I know this puts me in a wierd spot since I've got one check on me saying I'm scum and one on me saying I'm town. But yhea. Kill Koshi.

##Vote: Koshi
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
June 26 2014 18:30 GMT
#1462
On June 27 2014 03:18 YouKnowZhou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2014 03:02 Snickers wrote:
Also just thought about something interesting. I am not 100% sure about this but lets consider something. YKZ hard pushes 27nb on day one. Relatively early. Same thing day two with VE. Now day three he has not pushed anyone yet, but only six hour till deadline? His biggest move so far was defending Lazer. Looking likely those two are scum.


> claims to be cop
> doesn't know what day it is, or who has been lynched on what day

Amazingly, It's not even like he's scum for this, either. I'm sure scum would be keenly aware that it is in fact Day 4. I wish I could call Snickers scum. There just aren't words appropriate for a mafia game for me to say that would adequately define my opinion of a case against me based on the fact that D1 and D2 I mislynched 27nb and VE, and now on "D3" I'm defending LM. Like, not only is it not D3, but on D2 it was mderg that was lynched, and

oh my god I can't even deal with this guy


lol thats the first decent size mistake i made in this game. A lot of a mistake than all the people that did not even read the roles.

Anyway, day one hard pushed 27nb early

Day two was hard pushing me I guess, will look into it when I get time before the lynch.

Day three hard push ve early.

Day four defend lazer early.

And it is weird that Lazer says YKZ is town before me and chezinu.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
June 26 2014 18:32 GMT
#1463
On June 27 2014 03:30 Snickers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2014 03:18 YouKnowZhou wrote:
On June 27 2014 03:02 Snickers wrote:
Also just thought about something interesting. I am not 100% sure about this but lets consider something. YKZ hard pushes 27nb on day one. Relatively early. Same thing day two with VE. Now day three he has not pushed anyone yet, but only six hour till deadline? His biggest move so far was defending Lazer. Looking likely those two are scum.


> claims to be cop
> doesn't know what day it is, or who has been lynched on what day

Amazingly, It's not even like he's scum for this, either. I'm sure scum would be keenly aware that it is in fact Day 4. I wish I could call Snickers scum. There just aren't words appropriate for a mafia game for me to say that would adequately define my opinion of a case against me based on the fact that D1 and D2 I mislynched 27nb and VE, and now on "D3" I'm defending LM. Like, not only is it not D3, but on D2 it was mderg that was lynched, and

oh my god I can't even deal with this guy


lol thats the first decent size mistake i made in this game. A lot of a mistake than all the people that did not even read the roles.

Anyway, day one hard pushed 27nb early

Day two was hard pushing me I guess, will look into it when I get time before the lynch.

Day three hard push ve early.

Day four defend lazer early.

And it is weird that Lazer says YKZ is town before me and chezinu.


So, wait, your characterization of my D2 is that I pushed... you? not mderg?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
June 26 2014 18:34 GMT
#1464
No I do not get how you pick up on good things and know terms well but you can not read a post. The difference between you and koshi is that koshi is consistent and you are not.
YouKnowZhou
Profile Joined June 2014
United States262 Posts
June 26 2014 18:38 GMT
#1465
On June 27 2014 03:30 Snickers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2014 03:18 YouKnowZhou wrote:
On June 27 2014 03:02 Snickers wrote:
Also just thought about something interesting. I am not 100% sure about this but lets consider something. YKZ hard pushes 27nb on day one. Relatively early. Same thing day two with VE. Now day three he has not pushed anyone yet, but only six hour till deadline? His biggest move so far was defending Lazer. Looking likely those two are scum.


> claims to be cop
> doesn't know what day it is, or who has been lynched on what day

Amazingly, It's not even like he's scum for this, either. I'm sure scum would be keenly aware that it is in fact Day 4. I wish I could call Snickers scum. There just aren't words appropriate for a mafia game for me to say that would adequately define my opinion of a case against me based on the fact that D1 and D2 I mislynched 27nb and VE, and now on "D3" I'm defending LM. Like, not only is it not D3, but on D2 it was mderg that was lynched, and

oh my god I can't even deal with this guy


lol thats the first decent size mistake i made in this game. A lot of a mistake than all the people that did not even read the roles.

Anyway, day one hard pushed 27nb early

Day two was hard pushing me I guess, will look into it when I get time before the lynch.

Day three hard push ve early.

Day four defend lazer early.

And it is weird that Lazer says YKZ is town before me and chezinu.


So, wait, your characterization of my D2 is that I pushed... you? not mderg?
Do no evilness because it is a small one; do not leave a small deed undone because it is just a petty one.
YouKnowZhou
Profile Joined June 2014
United States262 Posts
June 26 2014 18:46 GMT
#1466
Chez, I would encourage you to unambiguously state what checks you have, and on which nights you made them, please.

On June 27 2014 03:34 Snickers wrote:
No I do not get how you pick up on good things and know terms well but you can not read a post. The difference between you and koshi is that koshi is consistent and you are not.


Well, believe it or not buddy I do my best to refine my reads based on new evidence. For example, I became willing to lynch LM when chez claimed a goon check on him, even though I thought LM was town. Then, when you claimed a green check on LM annd chez backtracked the goon check (it's still not clear to me-- maybe chez gets checks for goons and VTs as the same, "vanilla", or something), I am no longer willing to lynch LM. Is it weird that I was willing to vote for him? Yeah, but from my point of view, it's not. You're the one who had a green check on him, all I knew is I thought he was town, but if someone claims a red check on him, you gotta lynch him. That's just how it works.

Now look, You have 3 green checks. Me, LM, Sloosh, right? If you're sane, we're all either town, godfathers, or scum who got framed. We could all be town, or up to 2 of us could be scum (assuming 3 total scum). If you're insane, then at least one of us must be town who got framed, since you have 3 checks.

If both you and chez I am strongly inclined to believe scum has some sort of PR that interferes with checks. When I think about the possiblity of like a GF AND a Framer though I think that's a little silly. Goon/GF/Framer is a setup where 2 of the 3 scum are immune to the alignment cop, and 1 (or 2? does goon return vanilla or goon?) are immune to the role cop. Compared to Alignment Cop, Role Cop is kinda a shit role unless it distinguishes goons from VTs. What seems more likely would be Goon/GF-or-Framer/Foo, where Foo is like, another goon, or maybe a Medic or something just to keep scum on their toes.

If a Role Cop checks a goon, does he get back a different result than if he checks a VT?
Do no evilness because it is a small one; do not leave a small deed undone because it is just a petty one.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 26 2014 18:52 GMT
#1467
He does BH. I asked.

Lazer is scum for thinking a greenchecks makes him look good. Especially after his D2/N2. A redcheck would have been actually made him look good.

Snickers is also a sane cop or mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
June 26 2014 18:55 GMT
#1468
Jeez koshi start following the thread a bit more or check your posts before posting. Make it easier for town to see your town.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 26 2014 18:57 GMT
#1469
On June 27 2014 03:55 Snickers wrote:
Jeez koshi start following the thread a bit more or check your posts before posting. Make it easier for town to see your town.

What do you mean this time?
I had a good night of sleep.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 26 2014 18:59 GMT
#1470
Actually, your right YKZ. Goon/GF/Framer would basically mean that the investigative roles are counterproduvtive. But Goon/GF/medic or Goon/Framer/medic all makes sense, especially since there was a town medic.

@Koshi

On June 27 2014 03:52 Koshi wrote:
He does BH. I asked.

Lazer is scum for thinking a greenchecks makes him look good. Especially after his D2/N2. A redcheck would have been actually made him look good.

Snickers is also a sane cop or mafia.

Lewut? Please explain how a red check makes me more town...
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
June 26 2014 19:00 GMT
#1471
I'm an insane or sane detective And why would I be mafia . I thought u thought I was town.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 26 2014 19:01 GMT
#1472
On June 27 2014 03:30 Snickers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2014 03:18 YouKnowZhou wrote:
On June 27 2014 03:02 Snickers wrote:
Also just thought about something interesting. I am not 100% sure about this but lets consider something. YKZ hard pushes 27nb on day one. Relatively early. Same thing day two with VE. Now day three he has not pushed anyone yet, but only six hour till deadline? His biggest move so far was defending Lazer. Looking likely those two are scum.


> claims to be cop
> doesn't know what day it is, or who has been lynched on what day

Amazingly, It's not even like he's scum for this, either. I'm sure scum would be keenly aware that it is in fact Day 4. I wish I could call Snickers scum. There just aren't words appropriate for a mafia game for me to say that would adequately define my opinion of a case against me based on the fact that D1 and D2 I mislynched 27nb and VE, and now on "D3" I'm defending LM. Like, not only is it not D3, but on D2 it was mderg that was lynched, and

oh my god I can't even deal with this guy


lol thats the first decent size mistake i made in this game. A lot of a mistake than all the people that did not even read the roles.

Anyway, day one hard pushed 27nb early

Day two was hard pushing me I guess, will look into it when I get time before the lynch.

Day three hard push ve early.

Day four defend lazer early.

And it is weird that Lazer says YKZ is town before me and chezinu.

I never said I thought YKZ was more town than you...
YouKnowZhou
Profile Joined June 2014
United States262 Posts
June 26 2014 19:01 GMT
#1473
On June 27 2014 03:57 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2014 03:55 Snickers wrote:
Jeez koshi start following the thread a bit more or check your posts before posting. Make it easier for town to see your town.

What do you mean this time?


He's just decided to be flippant and unhelpful because he knows he's in no danger of being lynched today. He gave us his checks, so we can ignore him.

I agree that the only really likely outcome for a true claim from Snickers is that he's the sane cop. I anticipate 1 incorrect check, from either a gf or a framer.
Do no evilness because it is a small one; do not leave a small deed undone because it is just a petty one.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 26 2014 19:04 GMT
#1474
On June 27 2014 04:00 Snickers wrote:
I'm an insane or sane detective And why would I be mafia . I thought u thought I was town.

Ockhams razor tells me that you are sane though. If you are insane it means that you have hit like all the framed dudes in a row and/or hit 2 scum. While it is not impossible, its still the most likely scenario. Especially from my PoV because I know that if you are insane the only way you could've got a green check on me is if I was framed.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 26 2014 19:05 GMT
#1475
EBWOP: its still the most unlikely scenario*
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 26 2014 19:21 GMT
#1476
On June 27 2014 03:59 Lazermonkey wrote:
Actually, your right YKZ. Goon/GF/Framer would basically mean that the investigative roles are counterproduvtive. But Goon/GF/medic or Goon/Framer/medic all makes sense, especially since there was a town medic.

@Koshi

Show nested quote +
On June 27 2014 03:52 Koshi wrote:
He does BH. I asked.

Lazer is scum for thinking a greenchecks makes him look good. Especially after his D2/N2. A redcheck would have been actually made him look good.

Snickers is also a sane cop or mafia.

Lewut? Please explain how a red check makes me more town...

And this is why you are scum.

@ snickers. It's % chance.



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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 26 2014 19:22 GMT
#1477
Also !Lynch of Justice!
I had a good night of sleep.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 26 2014 19:33 GMT
#1478
Am I retarded or something? I really don't get Koshi's argument at all.
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
June 26 2014 19:40 GMT
#1479
Last time, I am not a cop. Mafia players tend to make the same mistake over and over, you guys think so alike. Anyway you literally said YKZ is town before me and chezinu, just weird to put it that way. Unless you recently began to think he is town.
YouKnowZhou
Profile Joined June 2014
United States262 Posts
June 26 2014 19:48 GMT
#1480
Did snicker just un claim? I'm confused
Do no evilness because it is a small one; do not leave a small deed undone because it is just a petty one.
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