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Chromatically
United States1700 Posts
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jabberwockzerg
United States294 Posts
On May 27 2014 20:59 Chromatically wrote: Also, read this whole page again: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/451317-detention-mafia?page=5 bunnies starts by (presumably) joking about me being scum, not a serious push as evidenced by not voting. This is jabber's passive-agressive response. "he probably is" heavily implies that jabber has a strong scumread on me, which clearly doesn't make sense given that I've made one completely non-alignment indicative post. From a scum perspective, it makes sense for jabber to try to go with the flow of the thread and throw suspicion on me, but accidentally take it too far. Again, here he makes it seem as if he strongly thinks I'm scum, which just doesn't make sense unless he has a preset idea of what he wants to push my alignment as. Lovely. I was trying to get the game moving along, I was pretty pumped to start interrogating and scum reading, which isn't how I acted last game, when I was scum. Lying about who was scum last game, I was trying to conceal information. I didn't realize that last game's roles were known, it would be beneficial for me if no one knew I was Mafia, just because there would be no real patterns of my play, and I could remain a wild card, which I thought could help me later. | ||
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27ninjabunnies
United States2486 Posts
On May 28 2014 01:14 jabberwockzerg wrote: Lovely. I was trying to get the game moving along, I was pretty pumped to start interrogating and scum reading, which isn't how I acted last game, when I was scum. Lying about who was scum last game, I was trying to conceal information. I didn't realize that last game's roles were known, it would be beneficial for me if no one knew I was Mafia, just because there would be no real patterns of my play, and I could remain a wild card, which I thought could help me later. Help you as town or as generating the lower tabby? And if as town, how would the concealing of this information be helpful to you? | ||
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mderg
Germany1740 Posts
fuba: Weren´t you against this lynch? Why the vote on jabberwockzerg now? | ||
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Chromatically
United States1700 Posts
On May 27 2014 11:50 jabberwockzerg wrote: Clearing this up, I didn't mean mafia specifically, just non vanilla. Was this bad wording? Yes. Stupid of me? Yes. Learning experience, definitely That doesn't sound like this. Here you claim that you meant to say I was a role last game. Now you say that you were saying I was mafia and were just concealing information. What was your read on me at that time? | ||
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27ninjabunnies
United States2486 Posts
On May 28 2014 01:24 mderg wrote: I don´t like this lynch at all. I don´t see what he did as alignment indicative because it doesn´t really make sense as either town or scum. So why is it more likely to be done by scum than by town? fuba: Weren´t you against this lynch? Why the vote on jabberwockzerg now? Okay, so if you look at the messages here, you can see that in the last game, jabber was hugging the forbidden french pearl. But he claimed that the reason why chrom could be acting differently this game was that the previous game chrom was the one who was sculpting the ice and this game he could just be vanilla town. But everyone knows that in the previous game, jabber was blowing up the balloons, not chrom. So why would jabber claim that chrom could have been locking up the forbidden duck last game? | ||
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fuba
United States663 Posts
On May 28 2014 01:24 mderg wrote: I don´t like this lynch at all. I don´t see what he did as alignment indicative because it doesn´t really make sense as either town or scum. So why is it more likely to be done by scum than by town? fuba: Weren´t you against this lynch? Why the vote on jabberwockzerg now? My position was that since it made no sense to lie as either alignment, I felt it was more likely a mistake. And I felt that this mistake was more likely to come from town rather than scum. His defense, however, is that he was actually hiding information and encouraging a possibility that he knew for a fact was incorrect. That makes it scummy. | ||
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mderg
Germany1740 Posts
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27ninjabunnies
United States2486 Posts
I also find it suspicious that mderg is defending him like this.... I don't understand you defense of him. Can you explain? | ||
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mderg
Germany1740 Posts
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27ninjabunnies
United States2486 Posts
On May 28 2014 01:45 mderg wrote: Well, I don´t think his lie makes him scum. I honestly think scum would think more carefully about lying like that. I mean everyone who was on his scum team would have known he lied no matter what. So even if he didn´t know the scum team was made public, it would have been easy to see that he was lying. There's only one person in this game who was on his team, and that was amiko. But i dont see amiko being even remotely active in this game right now, so your point there is invalid. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On May 28 2014 01:24 27ninjabunnies wrote: Help you as town or as generating the lower tabby? And if as town, how would the concealing of this information be helpful to you? I like this guy now. No longer mafia. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On May 28 2014 01:24 mderg wrote: I don´t like this lynch at all. I don´t see what he did as alignment indicative because it doesn´t really make sense as either town or scum. So why is it more likely to be done by scum than by town? fuba: Weren´t you against this lynch? Why the vote on jabberwockzerg now? We're lynching this guy if this jabber lynch is wrong for not reading the case and defending him anyway. | ||
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fuba
United States663 Posts
On May 28 2014 01:36 mderg wrote: I don´t think obvious lies make people scum. It´s just too easy to figure out to actually make it scummy. It wasn't an obvious lie to him. I mean, he knew it was a lie, but he didn't know that we would all know it was a lie. The only thing that's making me uneasy is that if he is scum, he chose this defense -_- | ||
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mderg
Germany1740 Posts
On May 28 2014 01:49 27ninjabunnies wrote: There's only one person in this game who was on his team, and that was amiko. But i dont see amiko being even remotely active in this game right now, so your point there is invalid. This game hasn´t even been going for a day. So amiko not being active in this doesn´t mean it has to stay that way. | ||
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27ninjabunnies
United States2486 Posts
I'm quite nervous this might be a mislynch. | ||
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mderg
Germany1740 Posts
On May 28 2014 01:52 Palmar wrote: We're lynching this guy if this jabber lynch is wrong for not reading the case and defending him anyway. Of course I read the case. | ||
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27ninjabunnies
United States2486 Posts
On May 28 2014 01:53 mderg wrote: This game hasn´t even been going for a day. So amiko not being active in this doesn´t mean it has to stay that way. Oh yes, i know this, so i would love to hear what Amiko has to say when he does start commenting. But my point is how would his previous eating cheese and rice team call him out on it when one of them isnt even in this game, and the other isnt being active. So i called him out on it. I think it was a slip | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
jabberwockzerg (4) - 27ninjabunnies, HaruRH, 27ninjabunnies (0) - Not voting: - Chromatically, Meapak_Ziphh, gobbledydook, jabberwockzerg, mderg, sqrtofneg1, slOosh, Amiko, Alakaslam, Currently jabberwockzerg is set to be lynched! Day ends in As a reminder, votes not bolded and with ## in front of them won't count. Not trying to be a hard-ass, but it makes finding votes difficult when they aren't formatted properly. Thanks! | ||
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mderg
Germany1740 Posts
On May 28 2014 01:52 fuba wrote: It wasn't an obvious lie to him. I mean, he knew it was a lie, but he didn't know that we would all know it was a lie. The only thing that's making me uneasy is that if he is scum, he chose this defense -_- The only way it wouldn´t get noticed is, if amiko was scum with him (assuming amiko reads this carefully). So by thinking logically it´s not unlikely we´d figure out he was lying. | ||
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