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/in hoping this doesn't start this week.
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On May 27 2014 07:54 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 07:52 Rainbows wrote: /in
Would suggest adding 1 mafia or altering KP formula so mafia don't lose KP when the first dies. I offset that by adding a mafia vig as well as the two-time janitor shot. I might edit those mechanics, although I want to keep the basic KP mechanic as is. Or I'll make the vig a shitty player. Wtf dude... how about you random the roles?
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On May 27 2014 08:03 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 08:00 justanothertownie wrote:On May 27 2014 07:54 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On May 27 2014 07:52 Rainbows wrote: /in
Would suggest adding 1 mafia or altering KP formula so mafia don't lose KP when the first dies. I offset that by adding a mafia vig as well as the two-time janitor shot. I might edit those mechanics, although I want to keep the basic KP mechanic as is. Or I'll make the vig a shitty player. Wtf dude... how about you random the roles? Lol JAT he's kidding I hope so but I heard how hosts gave roles to specific people like rayn being this weird scum role in foundation and I really hate that.
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On May 27 2014 08:23 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 08:06 justanothertownie wrote:On May 27 2014 08:03 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 27 2014 08:00 justanothertownie wrote:On May 27 2014 07:54 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On May 27 2014 07:52 Rainbows wrote: /in
Would suggest adding 1 mafia or altering KP formula so mafia don't lose KP when the first dies. I offset that by adding a mafia vig as well as the two-time janitor shot. I might edit those mechanics, although I want to keep the basic KP mechanic as is. Or I'll make the vig a shitty player. Wtf dude... how about you random the roles? Lol JAT he's kidding I hope so but I heard how hosts gave roles to specific people like rayn being this weird scum role in foundation and I really hate that. I think that sort of thing is usually more accepted in super themed games. This isn't one so I wouldn't worry. I wouldn't bet on that.
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On May 27 2014 08:38 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: 1/3 of the game filled in less than 90 minutes!
Signups should slow down as we run out of players to put in. Cell is starting up as well at this time.
Also, I'll be away June 6-9 for prom weekend, so Amiko and sqrt will be running the game for those four days, assuming it starts by that point.
JAT: Usually I assign roles when I want to influence the dynamic in some certain way (i.e. see how Koshi plays scum; or see an SK victory, so I'll put rayn in the spot to make sure he survives), or I want to test out a new role (like the Janitor role that's been in all of my games). Right now I have no intention of doing either of those. Take a chill break. I am perfectly chilled ^_^ Just wanted to make myself clear and considering what you wrote right there my paranoia wasn't baseless.
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Just don't start before monday please.
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On May 29 2014 04:59 mattisfoolish wrote: /in
Same hydra: Foolishness and Mattchew.
Since we didn't really get to play Golden Sun. Couldn't you 2 just play on your own? That would be really great.
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On May 29 2014 05:34 mattisfoolish wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2014 05:10 justanothertownie wrote:On May 29 2014 04:59 mattisfoolish wrote: /in
Same hydra: Foolishness and Mattchew.
Since we didn't really get to play Golden Sun. Couldn't you 2 just play on your own? That would be really great. no
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On June 04 2014 02:38 Alakaslam wrote: WHAT THE HIJOLE
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Why does this even take so long? Koshi clearly isn't doing his job.
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On June 04 2014 05:14 DarthPunk wrote: I will play if holyflare doesn't but I'm not bothered too much by sitting this one out. We are a little childish today, aren't we?
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On June 04 2014 05:29 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2014 05:19 justanothertownie wrote:On June 04 2014 05:14 DarthPunk wrote: I will play if holyflare doesn't but I'm not bothered too much by sitting this one out. We are a little childish today, aren't we? Not really? I don't want to play with holy flare because he has made the last 3-4 games I have played with him thoroughly un-enjoyable. That is why I /outed I would not have said anything more but HF brought it up cause he no doubt knew why I /outed and I felt like I should say something. Ok, ok. I only knew about titanic where he correctly tunneled you and if that would have been the sole reason this would be sort of ridiculous.
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He is referring to this:
On June 08 2014 03:47 Amiko wrote: Sentinel indicated that the player count could go up to 35 (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/451310-tl-order-lxvi-mafia?page=15#300).
Currently I see 33 ins, 2 replaces. We could fit two more people as /in. We can probably aim to start on June 10 (Tuesday) even if a few people /in or /out.
Here is the list as I currently have it from going through the thread-
Players 1. ObiWanShinobi 2. Koshi 3. Ritoky 4. Rainbows 5. Justanothertownie 6. Sandroba 7. ExO_ 8. Meapak_Ziphh 9. Erandorr 10. Sinani206 11. Kushm4sta 12. tehPoofter 13. Bill Murray 14. TheKingOfTheCats 15. Alakaslam (or /replace if full) 16. Mattisfoolish (Foolishness/Mattchew Hydra) 17. Gumshoe 18. Chairman Ray 19. Mocsta 20. HaruRH 21. Strongandbig 22. Palmar 23. Marvellosity 24. Fferyllt 25. Holyflare 26. TicaTica 27. Ketomai 28. Batsnacks 29. VayneAuthority 30. Chromatically (or /obs if full) 31. IAmRobik (or /replace) 32. 27ninjabunnies (or /replace) 33. ObviousOne
Replace List: 1. OnceKing 2. Yamato77
Banlist /sitout Credit 1. Raynpelikoneet
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On June 10 2014 02:10 IAmRobik wrote:I really wanna play Can I hydra w/ someone? ^_^ If you can hydra you can also play alone. Edit: As long as you aren't absent for more than a cycle somehow.
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On June 11 2014 02:39 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2014 15:58 Alakaslam wrote:On June 10 2014 04:07 IAmRobik wrote: I will be in SF from 11-13 and then I will be in Calistoga 13 (eve) thru 15, returning back to SF/Berkeley 15-17th. Flying out redeye on the 17th.
Anyone trying to stalk me, feel free.
having said that, you scare the shit out of me slamjam SSON I have enough homo depot where I live, where u r going is nothing special. So I will stick with Davis because farmboy gonna want outta the north faster than you could say "liberal" U ain't got nothin PHEEAR naw naw PHEEAR Fwiw do not rent anything but Prius in Berkeley In fact walk. The greenpeace is not peace, it is war I mean, if you wanna grab a beer and teach me your tongues, I'm down. I won't be renting a car in Berkeley. In fact, I won't have a car at all there, so I will rely on BART and friends for transportation, as well as my two feet. Let me know what days work for you. You can PM me your digits. Are you sure that you are american? ^_^
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On June 11 2014 04:38 batsnacks wrote: Hydras are really lame. Yes.
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On June 11 2014 05:50 ObiWanShinobi wrote: batsnacks is the confirmed town hero for finding palmar so early.
im just gonna sheep him forever. Looks more like a bus to me.
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On June 11 2014 05:52 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 05:51 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 05:50 ObiWanShinobi wrote: batsnacks is the confirmed town hero for finding palmar so early.
im just gonna sheep him forever. Looks more like a bus to me. Tbh I don't think it's a bus he seems pretty towny. You don't think? You should know!
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On June 11 2014 06:03 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:00 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 05:56 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 05:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On June 11 2014 05:49 yamato77 wrote: There's a nonzero chance that both bat and palmy are wolves another good point. god im so confused. this game is really hard. can everyone see what im saying? im saying that im really confused because this game is confusing. shit i hope nobody notices me omg. I wanna bait this post so badly and see who is the first to call out obiwan for this shitty shit shitterson of a post because it's so easy to hammer him on the lack of anything logical or tangible here. The post is too scummy to be written by scum You should have waited to see if anyone would bite you literally waited 5 minutes. Rolling mafia as a hydra must suck, especially since Robik doesn't wolf very well. ##Vote: Roundaboud I'm impatient Banksy. Plus, I don't know how to bait shit. You know how I play...I just spout whatever the hell comes to my head at the moment. Plus, I think that baiting is kinda silly in general. It's too tough to do properly, and unless people read the post the same way you do, you end up with a shitton of people just thinking that you're scum defending a scum buddy instead of reading you for making a good play. Why so defensive?
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On June 11 2014 06:20 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:18 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 06:03 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:00 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 05:56 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 05:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On June 11 2014 05:49 yamato77 wrote: There's a nonzero chance that both bat and palmy are wolves another good point. god im so confused. this game is really hard. can everyone see what im saying? im saying that im really confused because this game is confusing. shit i hope nobody notices me omg. I wanna bait this post so badly and see who is the first to call out obiwan for this shitty shit shitterson of a post because it's so easy to hammer him on the lack of anything logical or tangible here. The post is too scummy to be written by scum You should have waited to see if anyone would bite you literally waited 5 minutes. Rolling mafia as a hydra must suck, especially since Robik doesn't wolf very well. ##Vote: Roundaboud I'm impatient Banksy. Plus, I don't know how to bait shit. You know how I play...I just spout whatever the hell comes to my head at the moment. Plus, I think that baiting is kinda silly in general. It's too tough to do properly, and unless people read the post the same way you do, you end up with a shitton of people just thinking that you're scum defending a scum buddy instead of reading you for making a good play. Why so defensive? Not sure why that reads as defensive to you. I have no filter when I'm town, so I'll say whatever I'm thinking. What you quoted is the logic of why I made the post I made. I want to bait this.
You fucked up if you want this baited.
Oh god, I don't even know how to bait, please don't look at me.
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On June 11 2014 06:29 marvellosity wrote: Robik you need to soothe your boobs. Marv... at least wait until we got a solid read on him. Pfff
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On June 11 2014 06:29 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:26 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 06:24 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote: He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote: the deepest one in the nest ##Vote: sinani206 You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling. lol are you serious? My next post expands on this, but yeah I'm serious as shit. I think he sees a possible opportunity arising and he's hopping all over it. You really think he thinks he can lynch you for what happened since the start of the game?
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On June 11 2014 06:32 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:29 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:26 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 06:24 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote: He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote: the deepest one in the nest ##Vote: sinani206 You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling. lol are you serious? My next post expands on this, but yeah I'm serious as shit. I think he sees a possible opportunity arising and he's hopping all over it. You really think he thinks he can lynch you for what happened since the start of the game? Or to clarify: since the start until the point in time he went at you.
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On June 11 2014 06:37 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:32 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 06:29 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:26 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 06:24 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote: He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote: the deepest one in the nest ##Vote: sinani206 You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling. lol are you serious? My next post expands on this, but yeah I'm serious as shit. I think he sees a possible opportunity arising and he's hopping all over it. You really think he thinks he can lynch you for what happened since the start of the game? No. Doesn't mean I'm not gonna defend myself against bullshit and call people out for scummy ass behavior. I'm town. Voting on me is against your win condition if you're town. I felt like Banks might have had some sort of substance behind why he was thinking what he was thinking. Maybe he just wanted to put some early pressure to get a read off of me. But Batsnacks is a nobody and if a nobody is going to throw bullshit my way I'm going to make sure that everyone sees that it's bullshit. You are making friends quickly I guess.
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On June 11 2014 06:39 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:39 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 06:37 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:32 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 06:29 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:26 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 06:24 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote: [quote]
Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote: the deepest one in the nest ##Vote: sinani206 You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling. lol are you serious? My next post expands on this, but yeah I'm serious as shit. I think he sees a possible opportunity arising and he's hopping all over it. You really think he thinks he can lynch you for what happened since the start of the game? No. Doesn't mean I'm not gonna defend myself against bullshit and call people out for scummy ass behavior. I'm town. Voting on me is against your win condition if you're town. I felt like Banks might have had some sort of substance behind why he was thinking what he was thinking. Maybe he just wanted to put some early pressure to get a read off of me. But Batsnacks is a nobody and if a nobody is going to throw bullshit my way I'm going to make sure that everyone sees that it's bullshit. You are making friends quickly I guess. [ ] care [x] don't care [x] I WANT TO MOTHA FUCKIN WIN! Fair enough. Just keep doing what you are doing - in an ideal world we will know your alignment before Mocsta posts.
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On June 11 2014 06:41 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:39 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:39 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 06:37 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:32 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 06:29 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:26 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 06:24 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote: [quote]
what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote: the deepest one in the nest ##Vote: sinani206 You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling. lol are you serious? My next post expands on this, but yeah I'm serious as shit. I think he sees a possible opportunity arising and he's hopping all over it. You really think he thinks he can lynch you for what happened since the start of the game? No. Doesn't mean I'm not gonna defend myself against bullshit and call people out for scummy ass behavior. I'm town. Voting on me is against your win condition if you're town. I felt like Banks might have had some sort of substance behind why he was thinking what he was thinking. Maybe he just wanted to put some early pressure to get a read off of me. But Batsnacks is a nobody and if a nobody is going to throw bullshit my way I'm going to make sure that everyone sees that it's bullshit. You are making friends quickly I guess. [ ] care [x] don't care [x] I WANT TO MOTHA FUCKIN WIN! pls undo the calamity that is your mammaries Creative.
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On June 11 2014 06:50 sinani206 wrote:Mostly one-liners and wishy washy, I don't really have time right now to quote because I have a meeting at 2:50 but if he keeps this kind of useless posting up I can see a chance of him being red. Oh no! Did you gather that from your question to me?
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On June 11 2014 06:50 sinani206 wrote:Mostly one-liners and wishy washy, I don't really have time right now to quote because I have a meeting at 2:50 but if he keeps this kind of useless posting up I can see a chance of him being red. In this post sinani basically gives a null read on me. His reasoning can be used for almost 100 % of the players in this game. I think he added the part with the "chance of being red" to create the illusion that his question towards me had something to do with scumhunting -> tries to get Chrom off his ass.
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On June 11 2014 06:56 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:55 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 06:50 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:46 Chromatically wrote: Sinani what do you think of JAT? Mostly one-liners and wishy washy, I don't really have time right now to quote because I have a meeting at 2:50 but if he keeps this kind of useless posting up I can see a chance of him being red. In this post sinani basically gives a null read on me. His reasoning can be used for almost 100 % of the players in this game. I think he added the part with the "chance of being red" to create the illusion that his question towards me had something to do with scumhunting -> tries to get Chrom off his ass. and therefore your conclusion? I think it's kinda scummy.
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On June 11 2014 07:00 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:57 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 06:56 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 06:55 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 06:50 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:46 Chromatically wrote: Sinani what do you think of JAT? Mostly one-liners and wishy washy, I don't really have time right now to quote because I have a meeting at 2:50 but if he keeps this kind of useless posting up I can see a chance of him being red. In this post sinani basically gives a null read on me. His reasoning can be used for almost 100 % of the players in this game. I think he added the part with the "chance of being red" to create the illusion that his question towards me had something to do with scumhunting -> tries to get Chrom off his ass. and therefore your conclusion? I think it's kinda scummy. I tend to agree, "if he keeps this up i can see a chance of him being red" is like so many layers of qualifiers :p on the other hand i'm pretty taken aback that sinani is posting volumously at all. that's a turn up for the books. Well, is it alignment indicative though? I never played with him afaik.
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On June 11 2014 07:04 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:55 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 06:50 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:46 Chromatically wrote: Sinani what do you think of JAT? Mostly one-liners and wishy washy, I don't really have time right now to quote because I have a meeting at 2:50 but if he keeps this kind of useless posting up I can see a chance of him being red. In this post sinani basically gives a null read on me. His reasoning can be used for almost 100 % of the players in this game. I think he added the part with the "chance of being red" to create the illusion that his question towards me had something to do with scumhunting -> tries to get Chrom off his ass. not sure I agree with the part about him scumhunting thing being an illusion he was trying to create. I do agree about how it looks like a post to get chrom off his ass. Did you see him do anything with his "scumhunting"? Like pressure me further or even make sure I answer his question?
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On June 11 2014 07:10 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 07:01 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 07:00 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 06:57 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 06:56 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 06:55 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 06:50 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:46 Chromatically wrote: Sinani what do you think of JAT? Mostly one-liners and wishy washy, I don't really have time right now to quote because I have a meeting at 2:50 but if he keeps this kind of useless posting up I can see a chance of him being red. In this post sinani basically gives a null read on me. His reasoning can be used for almost 100 % of the players in this game. I think he added the part with the "chance of being red" to create the illusion that his question towards me had something to do with scumhunting -> tries to get Chrom off his ass. and therefore your conclusion? I think it's kinda scummy. I tend to agree, "if he keeps this up i can see a chance of him being red" is like so many layers of qualifiers :p on the other hand i'm pretty taken aback that sinani is posting volumously at all. that's a turn up for the books. Well, is it alignment indicative though? I never played with him afaik. I like this question. Do you like marv's answer? Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 07:04 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 07:01 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 07:00 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 06:57 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 06:56 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 06:55 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 06:50 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:46 Chromatically wrote: Sinani what do you think of JAT? Mostly one-liners and wishy washy, I don't really have time right now to quote because I have a meeting at 2:50 but if he keeps this kind of useless posting up I can see a chance of him being red. In this post sinani basically gives a null read on me. His reasoning can be used for almost 100 % of the players in this game. I think he added the part with the "chance of being red" to create the illusion that his question towards me had something to do with scumhunting -> tries to get Chrom off his ass. and therefore your conclusion? I think it's kinda scummy. I tend to agree, "if he keeps this up i can see a chance of him being red" is like so many layers of qualifiers :p on the other hand i'm pretty taken aback that sinani is posting volumously at all. that's a turn up for the books. Well, is it alignment indicative though? I never played with him afaik. well i'd expect a mafia-sinani not to bother. that's like a teensy lean though. Meh. Complete neutral answer.
On June 11 2014 07:27 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 07:23 Chromatically wrote: Tica, let's talk. What's your read on sinani? Can I talk too? What would you expect sinani to have said to make him villagery? Is it just that he doesn't seem concerned with JAT's answer to his question? Well, if he hasn't got a scumread on me yet I sort of expect him to not try to squeeze that awful "future read" into his post. He could just say null. But he didn't. Hence I think tries to look like he is contributing without actually doing so.
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On June 11 2014 07:44 Chromatically wrote: I think round is town btw. I like how he's clearly not editing how he posts to seem more "townie" (something scum are focused on). I also like that he didn't even know who was pushing on him when I asked him about it. Scum would be more likely to notice that they're under pressure and be worried about it, because their goal is to not get lynched. Townpile.
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On June 11 2014 08:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 08:13 sandroba wrote: koshi half your town reads are baseless and terrible and one of your scum leans town to me. This looks like pretend hard mode. Yup. Glad I'm not the only one who hated that post You absolutely are not the only one.
On June 11 2014 08:01 ExO_ wrote: okay, sum up whats happening here then. this Hydra nonsense is hard to keep track of Weird. Before this posts there was no hydra nonsense that I can remember. Only one of the 2 hydras posted and only one head of it.
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On June 11 2014 08:25 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 08:23 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 08:22 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 08:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On June 11 2014 08:13 sandroba wrote: koshi half your town reads are baseless and terrible and one of your scum leans town to me. This looks like pretend hard mode. Yup. Glad I'm not the only one who hated that post Hate is a strong word but I did disagree with Koshi a bit. He had two of my village reads as his wolf reads so that was lame. Koshi can you go into a little more detail on TicaTic? It felt to me you had stronger feelings for Chrom but voted Tic Y4? Shit, why didn't i say the last part? I was thinking it. Cause I'm faster and better. Good 1k post.
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Has our tryhard left us?
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On June 11 2014 08:31 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 08:26 sandroba wrote:On June 11 2014 08:17 ExO_ wrote:Sandroba what have I done to convince you to vote me On June 11 2014 08:01 ExO_ wrote: okay, sum up whats happening here then. this Hydra nonsense is hard to keep track of I took this as random filler normally added by mafia to justify not commenting on anything or said hydra. Can you explain why hydras are hard to keep track of? Agreed. ExO very sketchy I don't think he read the first part of the thread. Sounded to be like he uses hydra here like a buzz word and trying to slide into the convo. @ExO you say you're getting used to the TL lingo where do you come from? Do you play Werewolf there or mafia? @Sandroba you care to elaborate on why Koshi is wolfy here? Like his post wasn't what I agreed with but not sure I got the super wolf tingles. Although I will say I'm not leaning village from it either. The problem is that all Koshi has posted is that pile of garbage and nothing else. Not very townkoshilike. Makes me sad.
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On June 11 2014 08:40 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 08:39 sandroba wrote:On June 11 2014 08:31 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 08:26 sandroba wrote:On June 11 2014 08:17 ExO_ wrote:Sandroba what have I done to convince you to vote me On June 11 2014 08:01 ExO_ wrote: okay, sum up whats happening here then. this Hydra nonsense is hard to keep track of I took this as random filler normally added by mafia to justify not commenting on anything or said hydra. Can you explain why hydras are hard to keep track of? Agreed. ExO very sketchy I don't think he read the first part of the thread. Sounded to be like he uses hydra here like a buzz word and trying to slide into the convo. @ExO you say you're getting used to the TL lingo where do you come from? Do you play Werewolf there or mafia? @Sandroba you care to elaborate on why Koshi is wolfy here? Like his post wasn't what I agreed with but not sure I got the super wolf tingles. Although I will say I'm not leaning village from it either. Koshi and exo are a good start, that's all. More info towards determining their alignment will come eventually I'm sure. You can join Chrom in Tehpoofter's Village. What you think about Marv? I like this village. Marv will have to stay out until he has lynched scum though. You can't trust that mofo.
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On June 11 2014 08:46 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 08:43 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 08:40 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 08:39 sandroba wrote:On June 11 2014 08:31 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 08:26 sandroba wrote:On June 11 2014 08:17 ExO_ wrote:Sandroba what have I done to convince you to vote me On June 11 2014 08:01 ExO_ wrote: okay, sum up whats happening here then. this Hydra nonsense is hard to keep track of I took this as random filler normally added by mafia to justify not commenting on anything or said hydra. Can you explain why hydras are hard to keep track of? Agreed. ExO very sketchy I don't think he read the first part of the thread. Sounded to be like he uses hydra here like a buzz word and trying to slide into the convo. @ExO you say you're getting used to the TL lingo where do you come from? Do you play Werewolf there or mafia? @Sandroba you care to elaborate on why Koshi is wolfy here? Like his post wasn't what I agreed with but not sure I got the super wolf tingles. Although I will say I'm not leaning village from it either. Koshi and exo are a good start, that's all. More info towards determining their alignment will come eventually I'm sure. You can join Chrom in Tehpoofter's Village. What you think about Marv? I like this village. Marv will have to stay out until he has lynched scum though. You can't trust that mofo. I agree. The village is sacred. Marv can sacrifice a wolf in order to get in even if its one from his pack. Jat what you think about EXO? I did not like his hydra post - that's why I pointed it out.
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On June 11 2014 08:59 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: JAY I'd like some clarification on your opinion of roundabound. Initially you questioned him for the same stuff batsnacks went after him but later on you agreed with chrom when he called roundabound town. I'd like a straight up read from you plox.
Gonna go play some CS:GO I will have to read some scumgames from him at some point but what he did so far looked rather townie to me. I questioned him mainly to get a read on him although I DID think his post was overly defensive. I will go with town for now.
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On June 11 2014 09:00 ExO_ wrote: oh and "breadcrumbing" is yet another new thing. It's like declaring only in a spoiler. The rules saying you can't use the specific language in your PM to describe your role seems unnecessary to me. Please stop talking about mechanics/general stuff and start talking about alignments.
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On June 11 2014 09:23 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 09:19 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 09:13 roundabound wrote: LOL @ anyone reading ExO scummy Do not mock me sir. This is why you're not in Tehpoofter's village. What has ExO done townie? If he's a noob and mafia, he sees your medic claim and runs into Maf QT and starts yelling, OMGOGOMG DID YOU GUIZE JUST SEE BANKS CLAIMED MEDIC. WE HAZ TO KEEL HIM TONIGHT! He gets instantly shot down and he doesn't bring it up. He doesn't do what he just did and blatantly role hunt in the thread. Or maybe he did just this and got told that it's way to obvious. Or he is a little smarter than you think. Who knows.
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On June 11 2014 11:18 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 10:37 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 10:28 yamato77 wrote:On June 11 2014 10:24 Tehpoofter wrote: yamato talk to me about marv how does wolf marv play? Like what should I be looking for in his game? he acts like a shithead, makes really bad reads, and generally just doesn't seem very interested in actually doing anything. lol this is not in any way how i play mafia. Please describe your mafia play in detail. You think you will get a helpful answer here?
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On June 11 2014 11:24 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 11:20 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 11:18 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 10:37 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 10:28 yamato77 wrote:On June 11 2014 10:24 Tehpoofter wrote: yamato talk to me about marv how does wolf marv play? Like what should I be looking for in his game? he acts like a shithead, makes really bad reads, and generally just doesn't seem very interested in actually doing anything. lol this is not in any way how i play mafia. Please describe your mafia play in detail. You think you will get a helpful answer here? I wouldn't put it past marv to tell the truth. Honestly I don't care about the question the fact he said "no thats not how i play mafia" is silyl in itself. Jat how does marv play mafia? I only followed one of his mafia games closely and he fooled me almost the whole time (I am probably not the person to ask). I think he just does not push things as strongly and he probably doesn't fight people as much.
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On June 11 2014 19:25 Bill Murray wrote: It's what I feel. I don't want to lynch him because "at least he tried" but i find him really fucking scummy for the way he's acted thusfar. He doesn't have enough content for me to want to lynch, versus someone who is like Ketomai and feels scummier/sheepy but then again is he just trying to latch onto a case? i couldnt blame him for sheeping me
Just to clarify: are you saying ketomai has more content than koshi or are you saying there isn't enough content from koshi and you want to lynch ketomai instead for different reasons?
On June 11 2014 20:56 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 20:53 marvellosity wrote: then you're still fucking terrible. There still exists an incongruity. Vayne is complaining about the quality of the game yet is actually making it worse with the way he posts. Vayne's towngame does not consist of complaint posts. He doesn't care about the state of the thread when he's town. He just plays the game. I am not sure if I can agree with this statement.
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On June 11 2014 21:26 yamato77 wrote:RE: Koshi Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 08:03 Koshi wrote:Town, or not lynchable till D3 for myself:ObiWanShinobi: Looks fine for now. Till I found everybody town he is town. + fast vote (not quoted). + optimism about fast vote (not quoted). + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 05:50 ObiWanShinobi wrote: batsnacks is the confirmed town hero for finding palmar so early.
im just gonna sheep him forever. On June 11 2014 05:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 05:49 yamato77 wrote: There's a nonzero chance that both bat and palmy are wolves another good point. god im so confused. this game is really hard. can everyone see what im saying? im saying that im really confused because this game is confusing. shit i hope nobody notices me omg. On June 11 2014 05:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 05:50 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 05:48 Chromatically wrote: first two people posting claim scum = scum always post first
therefore the first six people to post are scum
gg Try English. And Logic. But, like, seriously, like, what does this, like, even, like, mean?.....Like roundabout, posting from what appears to be one of the moons of jupiter. very interesting. hows the weather up there? On June 11 2014 05:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 05:53 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 05:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote: fuck i got town again. Gonna have to CC you hear I also rolled town. hi im poofter and i cannot english someone help Chairman Ray: Not an awkward entrance. I am cool with CR. Also a case that looks coming from town . + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 05:52 Chairman Ray wrote: Not everyone who townclaimed is town. I see them posting in my mafia QT. Stop lying guys. On June 11 2014 06:43 Chairman Ray wrote:First scumread for me: roundabound Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:03 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:00 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 05:56 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 05:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On June 11 2014 05:49 yamato77 wrote: There's a nonzero chance that both bat and palmy are wolves another good point. god im so confused. this game is really hard. can everyone see what im saying? im saying that im really confused because this game is confusing. shit i hope nobody notices me omg. I wanna bait this post so badly and see who is the first to call out obiwan for this shitty shit shitterson of a post because it's so easy to hammer him on the lack of anything logical or tangible here. The post is too scummy to be written by scum You should have waited to see if anyone would bite you literally waited 5 minutes. Rolling mafia as a hydra must suck, especially since Robik doesn't wolf very well. ##Vote: Roundaboud I'm impatient Banksy. Plus, I don't know how to bait shit. You know how I play...I just spout whatever the hell comes to my head at the moment. Plus, I think that baiting is kinda silly in general. It's too tough to do properly, and unless people read the post the same way you do, you end up with a shitton of people just thinking that you're scum defending a scum buddy instead of reading you for making a good play. The self-aware weak player. If you are so knowledgeable that you spout what just comes to your head, why don't you just not do it this game instead of analyzing your own weaknesses? A town player will usually try to not exhibit weaknesses that they are completely aware of, and if they do make a mistake, they will try to justify it post-mistake. This feels like someone trying to create a buffer for their future posts so others will read less into scummy play. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:08 roundabound wrote: Banks, I don't like that you haven't cleared me yet. I'm the easiest read of all fucking time. I hear this a lot of mafia players when I play live mafia. One of the main benchmarks of skill in mafia is other players not being able to trust if you are town or mafia. It becomes really obvious whether or not a newer player is town or scum, but not the better players. This is another self-aware weak player card that I feel would rarely be played by a town player. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:10 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:07 Chromatically wrote:On June 11 2014 06:04 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 06:01 Holyflare wrote: Sign your posts bro, also wont be playing till Thursday, cya! This post is Howling like a boss. Why? Also roundabound it makes me sad that you only reply to poofter and not me . What do you think of the people pushing you? The only person pushing me is Banks. I've only seen him lurk as mafia on TL and I've seen him be active as town. If posting volume drops or if logic fails or if he doesn't clear me at some point, he might be mafia, otherwise, he's town. Again, he's putting the onus on others to clear him as town. He also prematurely dropped the read on banks that banks is active as town and not so much as mafia. This is something you keep in your mind and say AFTER bank shows that he's active or lurking. Saying this prematurely is an indication that round never had the intention to read into banks. TehPoofter: Town for being around joyfully. This post is unlikely comming from scumPoofter. First it is totally random, secondly he promises to spam: + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 06:03 Tehpoofter wrote:Speaking of Wolves and Villages. This Game Recently got to 28000 Posts over on 2p2 we can easily beat that number. We just need to channel are inner spamming, Think Holyflare/Steveling but with ADHD and no sleep schedule. Thats my goal this game. roundabound: Not on the lynchtable because is progressing the game. Could be more friendly while doing so though. I do not agree with some of the points he makes and I saw him completely missinterpret a post. But I do'n't think he is scum purposely shitting up the thread so he is town for now. + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 06:10 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:07 Chromatically wrote:On June 11 2014 06:04 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 06:01 Holyflare wrote: Sign your posts bro, also wont be playing till Thursday, cya! This post is Howling like a boss. Why? Also roundabound it makes me sad that you only reply to poofter and not me . What do you think of the people pushing you? The only person pushing me is Banks. I've only seen him lurk as mafia on TL and I've seen him be active as town. If posting volume drops or if logic fails or if he doesn't clear me at some point, he might be mafia, otherwise, he's town. On June 11 2014 05:53 roundabound wrote:This is a really weird reaction from Palmar. If he claims to want to be mafia and rolls town, I think the reaction would be "fuck, I rolled town this sucks", not "fuck I got my role". Obviously he can't just say "SWEET, I GOT MAFIA," but I feel like he'd express more disappointment about rolling town after the first post. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 05:41 Palmar wrote:On June 11 2014 05:30 batsnacks wrote: I didn't get my role yet. Scumclaim. I know I'm mafia because I requested it and I also know I haven't received my role, so I can only assume that mafia gets roles sent last. Nailed you, bitch. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 05:45 Palmar wrote: Fuck I got my role. I don't even know what it does. brb. On June 11 2014 06:24 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote: He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote: the deepest one in the nest ##Vote: sinani206 You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling. On June 11 2014 06:27 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:24 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote: He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote: the deepest one in the nest ##Vote: sinani206 You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling. Sinani asked batsnacks what batsnacks has done all game. He wasn't able to answer the question and he disappeared. Batsnacks says that he's voting me because he hates hydras. He then goes on to soft push on me by saying shit like "this post isn't about this game so it doesn't mean anything" trying to justify his stupid vote awkward corner aka might lynch will watch: Chromatically: I don't like how he entered the thread. I don't like how he pushing sinani so hard. I don't like it because I don't see it. I can see the point he makes about entering the game with a pointless question trying to blend in. But I don't like how Chrom is blowing these questions up trying to twist it into mafia mindset. Did sinani enter the thread with a question? yes. Did it show mafia mindset. No. The question he asked JAT wasn't what Chrom is making it out to be. It was a pretty legit question. Somebody votes for Robik --> Robik replies --> Somebody says Robik is overdefensive --> sinani doesn't agree that Robik was overdefensive. I have now read Sinani his filter three times. I am puzzled by his filter. I do not see how Chrom can have such a strong scumread on Sinani that he is asking everybody to sheep him. tldr: Awkward entrance + Too strong scumread. + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 05:48 Chromatically wrote: first two people posting claim scum = scum always post first
therefore the first six people to post are scum
gg On June 11 2014 05:50 Chromatically wrote: Oh yeah I'm also town, in case anyone was wondering.
Now we just need the rest of the game to claim and we should be good. On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote: He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. ##Vote: sinani206 TicaTica: Entrance to the thread with a soft defense, a one-liner that looks extremely hard like an attempt to get towncred from those who he defends. the intention behind the entire post screams: Hi guys, I am town because I am helping. The buddying with marv makes me uncomfortable. Rest of filter is filler. + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 06:49 TicaTica wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote: He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote: the deepest one in the nest ##Vote: sinani206 Nisani und sinani be known lurkers irregardless of randed roll. On June 11 2014 06:54 TicaTica wrote: Marvelocity potential is villagery. Would be benefit if hydra heads were both to talk. Plammer is inherent wolfy. On June 11 2014 07:06 TicaTica wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 07:04 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 07:01 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 07:00 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 06:57 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 06:56 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 06:55 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 06:50 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:46 Chromatically wrote: Sinani what do you think of JAT? Mostly one-liners and wishy washy, I don't really have time right now to quote because I have a meeting at 2:50 but if he keeps this kind of useless posting up I can see a chance of him being red. In this post sinani basically gives a null read on me. His reasoning can be used for almost 100 % of the players in this game. I think he added the part with the "chance of being red" to create the illusion that his question towards me had something to do with scumhunting -> tries to get Chrom off his ass. and therefore your conclusion? I think it's kinda scummy. I tend to agree, "if he keeps this up i can see a chance of him being red" is like so many layers of qualifiers :p on the other hand i'm pretty taken aback that sinani is posting volumously at all. that's a turn up for the books. Well, is it alignment indicative though? I never played with him afaik. well i'd expect a mafia-sinani not to bother. that's like a teensy lean though. Am surprised your not pushing this thought more. -villagry points to mar velocity. ##vote: TicaTica I initially felt Koshi was town for this post, mostly because I agree with a few of the reads. Namely, I had an early town lean on Banks for how he approached the game with enthusiasm and a burst of activity. While he's been spammy and rather silly at times, I do not see any nefarious motives in the poofter filter. Koshi picked up on this as well, which is a point in his favor. I also shared a townread on Chairman Ray early on, because his posting showed obvious effort. While I disagree that roundabound has looked scummy, he obviously has a different perspective, and that is not damning. That said, I don't really know how good CR is at playing scum, so there exists the possibility that he could be mafia, which is why I will update my read soon. I obviously also agreed with Koshi that roundabound looked town, because I've seen Robik post THE EXACT SAME WAY in a game of this size before, and the thread reacted in the exact same way as well. Mocsta is more difficult to read early, but I think Robik's head of the hydra is really town. Also he's high activity/high emotion early on so more townie points in general, outside of the meta comparison. I agreed with the Chrom read at the time for the same reason Koshi lists; the sinani case was bad and definitely the sort of reaching play a mafia would make early on so he appears to be scumhunting. I haven't read Chrom's filter since, so he is also on my list, though I remember him asking a rather pointless question about my read on him that does not do him any favors. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 09:02 Koshi wrote:On June 11 2014 08:53 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 08:51 Koshi wrote: I voted Tica because I dislike him more. More words does not equal bigger scumread.
I still think my post was pretty good. Reason: I think my towns are town. My questionables good pressures points.
I will continue my quest tomorrow.
His recent posts backing up your wolf lean on him? How do you feel about Marv/Sandroba/JaT not liking your post at all? You think thats alignment indicative for any of them? Also You're doing a poor job of try harding if you make one post a day. Please don't go Cephiro mode on me. I have no interest in answering too many questions this game. If I dislike their posting you will be notified in future Koshi posts. I noticed Sandroba first dislike of my post was around my townreads not being good enough. After that he replied that my townreads were town but I wasn't when he got backed up by other Koshi - haters. Interesting that was. Probably only "interesting" person out of marv/Jat/Robik/Poofter/Sandroba. Updates will follow later. Koshi also notes what he thinks is an incongruity in sandro's posting. First sandro says this: Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 08:13 sandroba wrote: koshi half your town reads are baseless and terrible and one of your scum leans town to me. This looks like pretend hard mode. And then this: Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 08:23 sandroba wrote:On June 11 2014 08:16 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 08:15 sandroba wrote: hi =) you do realise you're going to have to be super-sexy after your tryhard mode in Catastrophe. Taking umbrage with that Koshi monstrosity is a good start No promisses. Not sure if I have the will to read this thread in detail if the amount of shit posting stays on this pace. I hope it's only because it just started. On June 11 2014 08:16 Koshi wrote: No sorry my towns are town. You misunderstand, I'm not I'm not saying they are mafia, I'm saying you are. While obviously sandro is just saying that Koshi's reasoning for calling his towns town is bad, Koshi thinks (and takes issue with the fact) that sandro is calling his reads bad, which is consistent with how he has posted thus far. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 08:51 Koshi wrote: I voted Tica because I dislike him more. More words does not equal bigger scumread.
I still think my post was pretty good. Reason: I think my towns are town. My questionables good pressures points.
I will continue my quest tomorrow.
He doesn't seem overly concerned with being wrong about his scumreads. I disagree with sandro that his townreads were terrible. While they appear thin, because Koshi doesn't really go into detail like I do, I actually think there were solid reasons to read those people town at that time, and Koshi picked up on the right posts. While he's not LOCK CLEAR, he's not my choice for the lynch for today. You went with meta for your VA read. Do you think Koshis play is in line with his town meta?
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On June 11 2014 21:33 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 21:29 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 21:26 yamato77 wrote:RE: Koshi On June 11 2014 08:03 Koshi wrote:Town, or not lynchable till D3 for myself:ObiWanShinobi: Looks fine for now. Till I found everybody town he is town. + fast vote (not quoted). + optimism about fast vote (not quoted). + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 05:50 ObiWanShinobi wrote: batsnacks is the confirmed town hero for finding palmar so early.
im just gonna sheep him forever. On June 11 2014 05:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 05:49 yamato77 wrote: There's a nonzero chance that both bat and palmy are wolves another good point. god im so confused. this game is really hard. can everyone see what im saying? im saying that im really confused because this game is confusing. shit i hope nobody notices me omg. On June 11 2014 05:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 05:50 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 05:48 Chromatically wrote: first two people posting claim scum = scum always post first
therefore the first six people to post are scum
gg Try English. And Logic. But, like, seriously, like, what does this, like, even, like, mean?.....Like roundabout, posting from what appears to be one of the moons of jupiter. very interesting. hows the weather up there? On June 11 2014 05:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 05:53 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 05:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote: fuck i got town again. Gonna have to CC you hear I also rolled town. hi im poofter and i cannot english someone help Chairman Ray: Not an awkward entrance. I am cool with CR. Also a case that looks coming from town . + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 05:52 Chairman Ray wrote: Not everyone who townclaimed is town. I see them posting in my mafia QT. Stop lying guys. On June 11 2014 06:43 Chairman Ray wrote:First scumread for me: roundabound Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:03 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:00 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 05:56 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 05:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On June 11 2014 05:49 yamato77 wrote: There's a nonzero chance that both bat and palmy are wolves another good point. god im so confused. this game is really hard. can everyone see what im saying? im saying that im really confused because this game is confusing. shit i hope nobody notices me omg. I wanna bait this post so badly and see who is the first to call out obiwan for this shitty shit shitterson of a post because it's so easy to hammer him on the lack of anything logical or tangible here. The post is too scummy to be written by scum You should have waited to see if anyone would bite you literally waited 5 minutes. Rolling mafia as a hydra must suck, especially since Robik doesn't wolf very well. ##Vote: Roundaboud I'm impatient Banksy. Plus, I don't know how to bait shit. You know how I play...I just spout whatever the hell comes to my head at the moment. Plus, I think that baiting is kinda silly in general. It's too tough to do properly, and unless people read the post the same way you do, you end up with a shitton of people just thinking that you're scum defending a scum buddy instead of reading you for making a good play. The self-aware weak player. If you are so knowledgeable that you spout what just comes to your head, why don't you just not do it this game instead of analyzing your own weaknesses? A town player will usually try to not exhibit weaknesses that they are completely aware of, and if they do make a mistake, they will try to justify it post-mistake. This feels like someone trying to create a buffer for their future posts so others will read less into scummy play. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:08 roundabound wrote: Banks, I don't like that you haven't cleared me yet. I'm the easiest read of all fucking time. I hear this a lot of mafia players when I play live mafia. One of the main benchmarks of skill in mafia is other players not being able to trust if you are town or mafia. It becomes really obvious whether or not a newer player is town or scum, but not the better players. This is another self-aware weak player card that I feel would rarely be played by a town player. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:10 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:07 Chromatically wrote:On June 11 2014 06:04 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 06:01 Holyflare wrote: Sign your posts bro, also wont be playing till Thursday, cya! This post is Howling like a boss. Why? Also roundabound it makes me sad that you only reply to poofter and not me . What do you think of the people pushing you? The only person pushing me is Banks. I've only seen him lurk as mafia on TL and I've seen him be active as town. If posting volume drops or if logic fails or if he doesn't clear me at some point, he might be mafia, otherwise, he's town. Again, he's putting the onus on others to clear him as town. He also prematurely dropped the read on banks that banks is active as town and not so much as mafia. This is something you keep in your mind and say AFTER bank shows that he's active or lurking. Saying this prematurely is an indication that round never had the intention to read into banks. TehPoofter: Town for being around joyfully. This post is unlikely comming from scumPoofter. First it is totally random, secondly he promises to spam: + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 06:03 Tehpoofter wrote:Speaking of Wolves and Villages. This Game Recently got to 28000 Posts over on 2p2 we can easily beat that number. We just need to channel are inner spamming, Think Holyflare/Steveling but with ADHD and no sleep schedule. Thats my goal this game. roundabound: Not on the lynchtable because is progressing the game. Could be more friendly while doing so though. I do not agree with some of the points he makes and I saw him completely missinterpret a post. But I do'n't think he is scum purposely shitting up the thread so he is town for now. + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 06:10 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:07 Chromatically wrote:On June 11 2014 06:04 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 06:01 Holyflare wrote: Sign your posts bro, also wont be playing till Thursday, cya! This post is Howling like a boss. Why? Also roundabound it makes me sad that you only reply to poofter and not me . What do you think of the people pushing you? The only person pushing me is Banks. I've only seen him lurk as mafia on TL and I've seen him be active as town. If posting volume drops or if logic fails or if he doesn't clear me at some point, he might be mafia, otherwise, he's town. On June 11 2014 05:53 roundabound wrote:This is a really weird reaction from Palmar. If he claims to want to be mafia and rolls town, I think the reaction would be "fuck, I rolled town this sucks", not "fuck I got my role". Obviously he can't just say "SWEET, I GOT MAFIA," but I feel like he'd express more disappointment about rolling town after the first post. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 05:41 Palmar wrote:On June 11 2014 05:30 batsnacks wrote: I didn't get my role yet. Scumclaim. I know I'm mafia because I requested it and I also know I haven't received my role, so I can only assume that mafia gets roles sent last. Nailed you, bitch. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 05:45 Palmar wrote: Fuck I got my role. I don't even know what it does. brb. On June 11 2014 06:24 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote: He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote: the deepest one in the nest ##Vote: sinani206 You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling. On June 11 2014 06:27 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:24 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote: He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote: the deepest one in the nest ##Vote: sinani206 You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling. Sinani asked batsnacks what batsnacks has done all game. He wasn't able to answer the question and he disappeared. Batsnacks says that he's voting me because he hates hydras. He then goes on to soft push on me by saying shit like "this post isn't about this game so it doesn't mean anything" trying to justify his stupid vote awkward corner aka might lynch will watch: Chromatically: I don't like how he entered the thread. I don't like how he pushing sinani so hard. I don't like it because I don't see it. I can see the point he makes about entering the game with a pointless question trying to blend in. But I don't like how Chrom is blowing these questions up trying to twist it into mafia mindset. Did sinani enter the thread with a question? yes. Did it show mafia mindset. No. The question he asked JAT wasn't what Chrom is making it out to be. It was a pretty legit question. Somebody votes for Robik --> Robik replies --> Somebody says Robik is overdefensive --> sinani doesn't agree that Robik was overdefensive. I have now read Sinani his filter three times. I am puzzled by his filter. I do not see how Chrom can have such a strong scumread on Sinani that he is asking everybody to sheep him. tldr: Awkward entrance + Too strong scumread. + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 05:48 Chromatically wrote: first two people posting claim scum = scum always post first
therefore the first six people to post are scum
gg On June 11 2014 05:50 Chromatically wrote: Oh yeah I'm also town, in case anyone was wondering.
Now we just need the rest of the game to claim and we should be good. On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote: He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. ##Vote: sinani206 TicaTica: Entrance to the thread with a soft defense, a one-liner that looks extremely hard like an attempt to get towncred from those who he defends. the intention behind the entire post screams: Hi guys, I am town because I am helping. The buddying with marv makes me uncomfortable. Rest of filter is filler. + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 06:49 TicaTica wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote: He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote: the deepest one in the nest ##Vote: sinani206 Nisani und sinani be known lurkers irregardless of randed roll. On June 11 2014 06:54 TicaTica wrote: Marvelocity potential is villagery. Would be benefit if hydra heads were both to talk. Plammer is inherent wolfy. On June 11 2014 07:06 TicaTica wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 07:04 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 07:01 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 07:00 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 06:57 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 06:56 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 06:55 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 06:50 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:46 Chromatically wrote: Sinani what do you think of JAT? Mostly one-liners and wishy washy, I don't really have time right now to quote because I have a meeting at 2:50 but if he keeps this kind of useless posting up I can see a chance of him being red. In this post sinani basically gives a null read on me. His reasoning can be used for almost 100 % of the players in this game. I think he added the part with the "chance of being red" to create the illusion that his question towards me had something to do with scumhunting -> tries to get Chrom off his ass. and therefore your conclusion? I think it's kinda scummy. I tend to agree, "if he keeps this up i can see a chance of him being red" is like so many layers of qualifiers :p on the other hand i'm pretty taken aback that sinani is posting volumously at all. that's a turn up for the books. Well, is it alignment indicative though? I never played with him afaik. well i'd expect a mafia-sinani not to bother. that's like a teensy lean though. Am surprised your not pushing this thought more. -villagry points to mar velocity. ##vote: TicaTica I initially felt Koshi was town for this post, mostly because I agree with a few of the reads. Namely, I had an early town lean on Banks for how he approached the game with enthusiasm and a burst of activity. While he's been spammy and rather silly at times, I do not see any nefarious motives in the poofter filter. Koshi picked up on this as well, which is a point in his favor. I also shared a townread on Chairman Ray early on, because his posting showed obvious effort. While I disagree that roundabound has looked scummy, he obviously has a different perspective, and that is not damning. That said, I don't really know how good CR is at playing scum, so there exists the possibility that he could be mafia, which is why I will update my read soon. I obviously also agreed with Koshi that roundabound looked town, because I've seen Robik post THE EXACT SAME WAY in a game of this size before, and the thread reacted in the exact same way as well. Mocsta is more difficult to read early, but I think Robik's head of the hydra is really town. Also he's high activity/high emotion early on so more townie points in general, outside of the meta comparison. I agreed with the Chrom read at the time for the same reason Koshi lists; the sinani case was bad and definitely the sort of reaching play a mafia would make early on so he appears to be scumhunting. I haven't read Chrom's filter since, so he is also on my list, though I remember him asking a rather pointless question about my read on him that does not do him any favors. On June 11 2014 09:02 Koshi wrote:On June 11 2014 08:53 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 08:51 Koshi wrote: I voted Tica because I dislike him more. More words does not equal bigger scumread.
I still think my post was pretty good. Reason: I think my towns are town. My questionables good pressures points.
I will continue my quest tomorrow.
His recent posts backing up your wolf lean on him? How do you feel about Marv/Sandroba/JaT not liking your post at all? You think thats alignment indicative for any of them? Also You're doing a poor job of try harding if you make one post a day. Please don't go Cephiro mode on me. I have no interest in answering too many questions this game. If I dislike their posting you will be notified in future Koshi posts. I noticed Sandroba first dislike of my post was around my townreads not being good enough. After that he replied that my townreads were town but I wasn't when he got backed up by other Koshi - haters. Interesting that was. Probably only "interesting" person out of marv/Jat/Robik/Poofter/Sandroba. Updates will follow later. Koshi also notes what he thinks is an incongruity in sandro's posting. First sandro says this: On June 11 2014 08:13 sandroba wrote: koshi half your town reads are baseless and terrible and one of your scum leans town to me. This looks like pretend hard mode. And then this: On June 11 2014 08:23 sandroba wrote:On June 11 2014 08:16 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 08:15 sandroba wrote: hi =) you do realise you're going to have to be super-sexy after your tryhard mode in Catastrophe. Taking umbrage with that Koshi monstrosity is a good start No promisses. Not sure if I have the will to read this thread in detail if the amount of shit posting stays on this pace. I hope it's only because it just started. On June 11 2014 08:16 Koshi wrote: No sorry my towns are town. You misunderstand, I'm not I'm not saying they are mafia, I'm saying you are. While obviously sandro is just saying that Koshi's reasoning for calling his towns town is bad, Koshi thinks (and takes issue with the fact) that sandro is calling his reads bad, which is consistent with how he has posted thus far. On June 11 2014 08:51 Koshi wrote: I voted Tica because I dislike him more. More words does not equal bigger scumread.
I still think my post was pretty good. Reason: I think my towns are town. My questionables good pressures points.
I will continue my quest tomorrow.
He doesn't seem overly concerned with being wrong about his scumreads. I disagree with sandro that his townreads were terrible. While they appear thin, because Koshi doesn't really go into detail like I do, I actually think there were solid reasons to read those people town at that time, and Koshi picked up on the right posts. While he's not LOCK CLEAR, he's not my choice for the lynch for today. You went with meta for your VA read. Do you think Koshis play is in line with his town meta? Koshi doesn't really play town in any one discernible way, so the argument doesn't really exist that he's "playing different than how he plays town". I heavily, heavily disagree.
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On June 11 2014 21:37 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 21:35 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 21:33 yamato77 wrote:On June 11 2014 21:29 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 21:26 yamato77 wrote:RE: Koshi On June 11 2014 08:03 Koshi wrote:Town, or not lynchable till D3 for myself:ObiWanShinobi: Looks fine for now. Till I found everybody town he is town. + fast vote (not quoted). + optimism about fast vote (not quoted). + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 05:50 ObiWanShinobi wrote: batsnacks is the confirmed town hero for finding palmar so early.
im just gonna sheep him forever. On June 11 2014 05:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 05:49 yamato77 wrote: There's a nonzero chance that both bat and palmy are wolves another good point. god im so confused. this game is really hard. can everyone see what im saying? im saying that im really confused because this game is confusing. shit i hope nobody notices me omg. On June 11 2014 05:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 05:50 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 05:48 Chromatically wrote: first two people posting claim scum = scum always post first
therefore the first six people to post are scum
gg Try English. And Logic. But, like, seriously, like, what does this, like, even, like, mean?.....Like roundabout, posting from what appears to be one of the moons of jupiter. very interesting. hows the weather up there? On June 11 2014 05:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 05:53 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 05:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote: fuck i got town again. Gonna have to CC you hear I also rolled town. hi im poofter and i cannot english someone help Chairman Ray: Not an awkward entrance. I am cool with CR. Also a case that looks coming from town . + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 05:52 Chairman Ray wrote: Not everyone who townclaimed is town. I see them posting in my mafia QT. Stop lying guys. On June 11 2014 06:43 Chairman Ray wrote:First scumread for me: roundabound Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:03 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:00 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 05:56 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 05:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On June 11 2014 05:49 yamato77 wrote: There's a nonzero chance that both bat and palmy are wolves another good point. god im so confused. this game is really hard. can everyone see what im saying? im saying that im really confused because this game is confusing. shit i hope nobody notices me omg. I wanna bait this post so badly and see who is the first to call out obiwan for this shitty shit shitterson of a post because it's so easy to hammer him on the lack of anything logical or tangible here. The post is too scummy to be written by scum You should have waited to see if anyone would bite you literally waited 5 minutes. Rolling mafia as a hydra must suck, especially since Robik doesn't wolf very well. ##Vote: Roundaboud I'm impatient Banksy. Plus, I don't know how to bait shit. You know how I play...I just spout whatever the hell comes to my head at the moment. Plus, I think that baiting is kinda silly in general. It's too tough to do properly, and unless people read the post the same way you do, you end up with a shitton of people just thinking that you're scum defending a scum buddy instead of reading you for making a good play. The self-aware weak player. If you are so knowledgeable that you spout what just comes to your head, why don't you just not do it this game instead of analyzing your own weaknesses? A town player will usually try to not exhibit weaknesses that they are completely aware of, and if they do make a mistake, they will try to justify it post-mistake. This feels like someone trying to create a buffer for their future posts so others will read less into scummy play. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:08 roundabound wrote: Banks, I don't like that you haven't cleared me yet. I'm the easiest read of all fucking time. I hear this a lot of mafia players when I play live mafia. One of the main benchmarks of skill in mafia is other players not being able to trust if you are town or mafia. It becomes really obvious whether or not a newer player is town or scum, but not the better players. This is another self-aware weak player card that I feel would rarely be played by a town player. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:10 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:07 Chromatically wrote:On June 11 2014 06:04 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 06:01 Holyflare wrote: Sign your posts bro, also wont be playing till Thursday, cya! This post is Howling like a boss. Why? Also roundabound it makes me sad that you only reply to poofter and not me . What do you think of the people pushing you? The only person pushing me is Banks. I've only seen him lurk as mafia on TL and I've seen him be active as town. If posting volume drops or if logic fails or if he doesn't clear me at some point, he might be mafia, otherwise, he's town. Again, he's putting the onus on others to clear him as town. He also prematurely dropped the read on banks that banks is active as town and not so much as mafia. This is something you keep in your mind and say AFTER bank shows that he's active or lurking. Saying this prematurely is an indication that round never had the intention to read into banks. TehPoofter: Town for being around joyfully. This post is unlikely comming from scumPoofter. First it is totally random, secondly he promises to spam: + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 06:03 Tehpoofter wrote:Speaking of Wolves and Villages. This Game Recently got to 28000 Posts over on 2p2 we can easily beat that number. We just need to channel are inner spamming, Think Holyflare/Steveling but with ADHD and no sleep schedule. Thats my goal this game. roundabound: Not on the lynchtable because is progressing the game. Could be more friendly while doing so though. I do not agree with some of the points he makes and I saw him completely missinterpret a post. But I do'n't think he is scum purposely shitting up the thread so he is town for now. + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 06:10 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:07 Chromatically wrote:On June 11 2014 06:04 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 06:01 Holyflare wrote: Sign your posts bro, also wont be playing till Thursday, cya! This post is Howling like a boss. Why? Also roundabound it makes me sad that you only reply to poofter and not me . What do you think of the people pushing you? The only person pushing me is Banks. I've only seen him lurk as mafia on TL and I've seen him be active as town. If posting volume drops or if logic fails or if he doesn't clear me at some point, he might be mafia, otherwise, he's town. On June 11 2014 05:53 roundabound wrote:This is a really weird reaction from Palmar. If he claims to want to be mafia and rolls town, I think the reaction would be "fuck, I rolled town this sucks", not "fuck I got my role". Obviously he can't just say "SWEET, I GOT MAFIA," but I feel like he'd express more disappointment about rolling town after the first post. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 05:41 Palmar wrote:On June 11 2014 05:30 batsnacks wrote: I didn't get my role yet. Scumclaim. I know I'm mafia because I requested it and I also know I haven't received my role, so I can only assume that mafia gets roles sent last. Nailed you, bitch. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 05:45 Palmar wrote: Fuck I got my role. I don't even know what it does. brb. On June 11 2014 06:24 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote: He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote: the deepest one in the nest ##Vote: sinani206 You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling. On June 11 2014 06:27 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:24 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote: He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote: the deepest one in the nest ##Vote: sinani206 You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling. Sinani asked batsnacks what batsnacks has done all game. He wasn't able to answer the question and he disappeared. Batsnacks says that he's voting me because he hates hydras. He then goes on to soft push on me by saying shit like "this post isn't about this game so it doesn't mean anything" trying to justify his stupid vote awkward corner aka might lynch will watch: Chromatically: I don't like how he entered the thread. I don't like how he pushing sinani so hard. I don't like it because I don't see it. I can see the point he makes about entering the game with a pointless question trying to blend in. But I don't like how Chrom is blowing these questions up trying to twist it into mafia mindset. Did sinani enter the thread with a question? yes. Did it show mafia mindset. No. The question he asked JAT wasn't what Chrom is making it out to be. It was a pretty legit question. Somebody votes for Robik --> Robik replies --> Somebody says Robik is overdefensive --> sinani doesn't agree that Robik was overdefensive. I have now read Sinani his filter three times. I am puzzled by his filter. I do not see how Chrom can have such a strong scumread on Sinani that he is asking everybody to sheep him. tldr: Awkward entrance + Too strong scumread. + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 05:48 Chromatically wrote: first two people posting claim scum = scum always post first
therefore the first six people to post are scum
gg On June 11 2014 05:50 Chromatically wrote: Oh yeah I'm also town, in case anyone was wondering.
Now we just need the rest of the game to claim and we should be good. On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote: He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. ##Vote: sinani206 TicaTica: Entrance to the thread with a soft defense, a one-liner that looks extremely hard like an attempt to get towncred from those who he defends. the intention behind the entire post screams: Hi guys, I am town because I am helping. The buddying with marv makes me uncomfortable. Rest of filter is filler. + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 06:49 TicaTica wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote: He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote: the deepest one in the nest ##Vote: sinani206 Nisani und sinani be known lurkers irregardless of randed roll. On June 11 2014 06:54 TicaTica wrote: Marvelocity potential is villagery. Would be benefit if hydra heads were both to talk. Plammer is inherent wolfy. On June 11 2014 07:06 TicaTica wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 07:04 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 07:01 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 07:00 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 06:57 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 06:56 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 06:55 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 06:50 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:46 Chromatically wrote: Sinani what do you think of JAT? Mostly one-liners and wishy washy, I don't really have time right now to quote because I have a meeting at 2:50 but if he keeps this kind of useless posting up I can see a chance of him being red. In this post sinani basically gives a null read on me. His reasoning can be used for almost 100 % of the players in this game. I think he added the part with the "chance of being red" to create the illusion that his question towards me had something to do with scumhunting -> tries to get Chrom off his ass. and therefore your conclusion? I think it's kinda scummy. I tend to agree, "if he keeps this up i can see a chance of him being red" is like so many layers of qualifiers :p on the other hand i'm pretty taken aback that sinani is posting volumously at all. that's a turn up for the books. Well, is it alignment indicative though? I never played with him afaik. well i'd expect a mafia-sinani not to bother. that's like a teensy lean though. Am surprised your not pushing this thought more. -villagry points to mar velocity. ##vote: TicaTica I initially felt Koshi was town for this post, mostly because I agree with a few of the reads. Namely, I had an early town lean on Banks for how he approached the game with enthusiasm and a burst of activity. While he's been spammy and rather silly at times, I do not see any nefarious motives in the poofter filter. Koshi picked up on this as well, which is a point in his favor. I also shared a townread on Chairman Ray early on, because his posting showed obvious effort. While I disagree that roundabound has looked scummy, he obviously has a different perspective, and that is not damning. That said, I don't really know how good CR is at playing scum, so there exists the possibility that he could be mafia, which is why I will update my read soon. I obviously also agreed with Koshi that roundabound looked town, because I've seen Robik post THE EXACT SAME WAY in a game of this size before, and the thread reacted in the exact same way as well. Mocsta is more difficult to read early, but I think Robik's head of the hydra is really town. Also he's high activity/high emotion early on so more townie points in general, outside of the meta comparison. I agreed with the Chrom read at the time for the same reason Koshi lists; the sinani case was bad and definitely the sort of reaching play a mafia would make early on so he appears to be scumhunting. I haven't read Chrom's filter since, so he is also on my list, though I remember him asking a rather pointless question about my read on him that does not do him any favors. On June 11 2014 09:02 Koshi wrote:On June 11 2014 08:53 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 08:51 Koshi wrote: I voted Tica because I dislike him more. More words does not equal bigger scumread.
I still think my post was pretty good. Reason: I think my towns are town. My questionables good pressures points.
I will continue my quest tomorrow.
His recent posts backing up your wolf lean on him? How do you feel about Marv/Sandroba/JaT not liking your post at all? You think thats alignment indicative for any of them? Also You're doing a poor job of try harding if you make one post a day. Please don't go Cephiro mode on me. I have no interest in answering too many questions this game. If I dislike their posting you will be notified in future Koshi posts. I noticed Sandroba first dislike of my post was around my townreads not being good enough. After that he replied that my townreads were town but I wasn't when he got backed up by other Koshi - haters. Interesting that was. Probably only "interesting" person out of marv/Jat/Robik/Poofter/Sandroba. Updates will follow later. Koshi also notes what he thinks is an incongruity in sandro's posting. First sandro says this: On June 11 2014 08:13 sandroba wrote: koshi half your town reads are baseless and terrible and one of your scum leans town to me. This looks like pretend hard mode. And then this: On June 11 2014 08:23 sandroba wrote:On June 11 2014 08:16 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 08:15 sandroba wrote: hi =) you do realise you're going to have to be super-sexy after your tryhard mode in Catastrophe. Taking umbrage with that Koshi monstrosity is a good start No promisses. Not sure if I have the will to read this thread in detail if the amount of shit posting stays on this pace. I hope it's only because it just started. On June 11 2014 08:16 Koshi wrote: No sorry my towns are town. You misunderstand, I'm not I'm not saying they are mafia, I'm saying you are. While obviously sandro is just saying that Koshi's reasoning for calling his towns town is bad, Koshi thinks (and takes issue with the fact) that sandro is calling his reads bad, which is consistent with how he has posted thus far. On June 11 2014 08:51 Koshi wrote: I voted Tica because I dislike him more. More words does not equal bigger scumread.
I still think my post was pretty good. Reason: I think my towns are town. My questionables good pressures points.
I will continue my quest tomorrow.
He doesn't seem overly concerned with being wrong about his scumreads. I disagree with sandro that his townreads were terrible. While they appear thin, because Koshi doesn't really go into detail like I do, I actually think there were solid reasons to read those people town at that time, and Koshi picked up on the right posts. While he's not LOCK CLEAR, he's not my choice for the lynch for today. You went with meta for your VA read. Do you think Koshis play is in line with his town meta? Koshi doesn't really play town in any one discernible way, so the argument doesn't really exist that he's "playing different than how he plays town". I heavily, heavily disagree. The only thing you've said is that his big post "doesn't seem very townkoshilike" You need to provide a more substantive argument for him being mafia, because I currently disagree. There are many little things that could be listed and I don't care to do it but a main point is that the townkoshi I know interacts with the thread.
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On June 11 2014 21:43 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 21:39 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 21:37 yamato77 wrote:On June 11 2014 21:35 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 21:33 yamato77 wrote:On June 11 2014 21:29 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 21:26 yamato77 wrote:RE: Koshi On June 11 2014 08:03 Koshi wrote:Town, or not lynchable till D3 for myself:ObiWanShinobi: Looks fine for now. Till I found everybody town he is town. + fast vote (not quoted). + optimism about fast vote (not quoted). + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 05:50 ObiWanShinobi wrote: batsnacks is the confirmed town hero for finding palmar so early.
im just gonna sheep him forever. On June 11 2014 05:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 05:49 yamato77 wrote: There's a nonzero chance that both bat and palmy are wolves another good point. god im so confused. this game is really hard. can everyone see what im saying? im saying that im really confused because this game is confusing. shit i hope nobody notices me omg. On June 11 2014 05:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 05:50 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 05:48 Chromatically wrote: first two people posting claim scum = scum always post first
therefore the first six people to post are scum
gg Try English. And Logic. But, like, seriously, like, what does this, like, even, like, mean?.....Like roundabout, posting from what appears to be one of the moons of jupiter. very interesting. hows the weather up there? On June 11 2014 05:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 05:53 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 05:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote: fuck i got town again. Gonna have to CC you hear I also rolled town. hi im poofter and i cannot english someone help Chairman Ray: Not an awkward entrance. I am cool with CR. Also a case that looks coming from town . + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 05:52 Chairman Ray wrote: Not everyone who townclaimed is town. I see them posting in my mafia QT. Stop lying guys. On June 11 2014 06:43 Chairman Ray wrote:First scumread for me: roundabound Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:03 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:00 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 05:56 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 05:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On June 11 2014 05:49 yamato77 wrote: There's a nonzero chance that both bat and palmy are wolves another good point. god im so confused. this game is really hard. can everyone see what im saying? im saying that im really confused because this game is confusing. shit i hope nobody notices me omg. I wanna bait this post so badly and see who is the first to call out obiwan for this shitty shit shitterson of a post because it's so easy to hammer him on the lack of anything logical or tangible here. The post is too scummy to be written by scum You should have waited to see if anyone would bite you literally waited 5 minutes. Rolling mafia as a hydra must suck, especially since Robik doesn't wolf very well. ##Vote: Roundaboud I'm impatient Banksy. Plus, I don't know how to bait shit. You know how I play...I just spout whatever the hell comes to my head at the moment. Plus, I think that baiting is kinda silly in general. It's too tough to do properly, and unless people read the post the same way you do, you end up with a shitton of people just thinking that you're scum defending a scum buddy instead of reading you for making a good play. The self-aware weak player. If you are so knowledgeable that you spout what just comes to your head, why don't you just not do it this game instead of analyzing your own weaknesses? A town player will usually try to not exhibit weaknesses that they are completely aware of, and if they do make a mistake, they will try to justify it post-mistake. This feels like someone trying to create a buffer for their future posts so others will read less into scummy play. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:08 roundabound wrote: Banks, I don't like that you haven't cleared me yet. I'm the easiest read of all fucking time. I hear this a lot of mafia players when I play live mafia. One of the main benchmarks of skill in mafia is other players not being able to trust if you are town or mafia. It becomes really obvious whether or not a newer player is town or scum, but not the better players. This is another self-aware weak player card that I feel would rarely be played by a town player. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:10 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:07 Chromatically wrote:On June 11 2014 06:04 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 06:01 Holyflare wrote: Sign your posts bro, also wont be playing till Thursday, cya! This post is Howling like a boss. Why? Also roundabound it makes me sad that you only reply to poofter and not me . What do you think of the people pushing you? The only person pushing me is Banks. I've only seen him lurk as mafia on TL and I've seen him be active as town. If posting volume drops or if logic fails or if he doesn't clear me at some point, he might be mafia, otherwise, he's town. Again, he's putting the onus on others to clear him as town. He also prematurely dropped the read on banks that banks is active as town and not so much as mafia. This is something you keep in your mind and say AFTER bank shows that he's active or lurking. Saying this prematurely is an indication that round never had the intention to read into banks. TehPoofter: Town for being around joyfully. This post is unlikely comming from scumPoofter. First it is totally random, secondly he promises to spam: + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 06:03 Tehpoofter wrote:Speaking of Wolves and Villages. This Game Recently got to 28000 Posts over on 2p2 we can easily beat that number. We just need to channel are inner spamming, Think Holyflare/Steveling but with ADHD and no sleep schedule. Thats my goal this game. roundabound: Not on the lynchtable because is progressing the game. Could be more friendly while doing so though. I do not agree with some of the points he makes and I saw him completely missinterpret a post. But I do'n't think he is scum purposely shitting up the thread so he is town for now. + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 06:10 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:07 Chromatically wrote:On June 11 2014 06:04 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 06:01 Holyflare wrote: Sign your posts bro, also wont be playing till Thursday, cya! This post is Howling like a boss. Why? Also roundabound it makes me sad that you only reply to poofter and not me . What do you think of the people pushing you? The only person pushing me is Banks. I've only seen him lurk as mafia on TL and I've seen him be active as town. If posting volume drops or if logic fails or if he doesn't clear me at some point, he might be mafia, otherwise, he's town. On June 11 2014 05:53 roundabound wrote:This is a really weird reaction from Palmar. If he claims to want to be mafia and rolls town, I think the reaction would be "fuck, I rolled town this sucks", not "fuck I got my role". Obviously he can't just say "SWEET, I GOT MAFIA," but I feel like he'd express more disappointment about rolling town after the first post. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 05:41 Palmar wrote:On June 11 2014 05:30 batsnacks wrote: I didn't get my role yet. Scumclaim. I know I'm mafia because I requested it and I also know I haven't received my role, so I can only assume that mafia gets roles sent last. Nailed you, bitch. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 05:45 Palmar wrote: Fuck I got my role. I don't even know what it does. brb. On June 11 2014 06:24 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote: He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote: the deepest one in the nest ##Vote: sinani206 You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling. On June 11 2014 06:27 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:24 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote: He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote: the deepest one in the nest ##Vote: sinani206 You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling. Sinani asked batsnacks what batsnacks has done all game. He wasn't able to answer the question and he disappeared. Batsnacks says that he's voting me because he hates hydras. He then goes on to soft push on me by saying shit like "this post isn't about this game so it doesn't mean anything" trying to justify his stupid vote awkward corner aka might lynch will watch: Chromatically: I don't like how he entered the thread. I don't like how he pushing sinani so hard. I don't like it because I don't see it. I can see the point he makes about entering the game with a pointless question trying to blend in. But I don't like how Chrom is blowing these questions up trying to twist it into mafia mindset. Did sinani enter the thread with a question? yes. Did it show mafia mindset. No. The question he asked JAT wasn't what Chrom is making it out to be. It was a pretty legit question. Somebody votes for Robik --> Robik replies --> Somebody says Robik is overdefensive --> sinani doesn't agree that Robik was overdefensive. I have now read Sinani his filter three times. I am puzzled by his filter. I do not see how Chrom can have such a strong scumread on Sinani that he is asking everybody to sheep him. tldr: Awkward entrance + Too strong scumread. + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 05:48 Chromatically wrote: first two people posting claim scum = scum always post first
therefore the first six people to post are scum
gg On June 11 2014 05:50 Chromatically wrote: Oh yeah I'm also town, in case anyone was wondering.
Now we just need the rest of the game to claim and we should be good. On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote: He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. ##Vote: sinani206 TicaTica: Entrance to the thread with a soft defense, a one-liner that looks extremely hard like an attempt to get towncred from those who he defends. the intention behind the entire post screams: Hi guys, I am town because I am helping. The buddying with marv makes me uncomfortable. Rest of filter is filler. + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 06:49 TicaTica wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote: He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote: the deepest one in the nest ##Vote: sinani206 Nisani und sinani be known lurkers irregardless of randed roll. On June 11 2014 06:54 TicaTica wrote: Marvelocity potential is villagery. Would be benefit if hydra heads were both to talk. Plammer is inherent wolfy. On June 11 2014 07:06 TicaTica wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 07:04 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 07:01 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 07:00 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 06:57 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 06:56 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 06:55 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 06:50 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:46 Chromatically wrote: Sinani what do you think of JAT? Mostly one-liners and wishy washy, I don't really have time right now to quote because I have a meeting at 2:50 but if he keeps this kind of useless posting up I can see a chance of him being red. In this post sinani basically gives a null read on me. His reasoning can be used for almost 100 % of the players in this game. I think he added the part with the "chance of being red" to create the illusion that his question towards me had something to do with scumhunting -> tries to get Chrom off his ass. and therefore your conclusion? I think it's kinda scummy. I tend to agree, "if he keeps this up i can see a chance of him being red" is like so many layers of qualifiers :p on the other hand i'm pretty taken aback that sinani is posting volumously at all. that's a turn up for the books. Well, is it alignment indicative though? I never played with him afaik. well i'd expect a mafia-sinani not to bother. that's like a teensy lean though. Am surprised your not pushing this thought more. -villagry points to mar velocity. ##vote: TicaTica I initially felt Koshi was town for this post, mostly because I agree with a few of the reads. Namely, I had an early town lean on Banks for how he approached the game with enthusiasm and a burst of activity. While he's been spammy and rather silly at times, I do not see any nefarious motives in the poofter filter. Koshi picked up on this as well, which is a point in his favor. I also shared a townread on Chairman Ray early on, because his posting showed obvious effort. While I disagree that roundabound has looked scummy, he obviously has a different perspective, and that is not damning. That said, I don't really know how good CR is at playing scum, so there exists the possibility that he could be mafia, which is why I will update my read soon. I obviously also agreed with Koshi that roundabound looked town, because I've seen Robik post THE EXACT SAME WAY in a game of this size before, and the thread reacted in the exact same way as well. Mocsta is more difficult to read early, but I think Robik's head of the hydra is really town. Also he's high activity/high emotion early on so more townie points in general, outside of the meta comparison. I agreed with the Chrom read at the time for the same reason Koshi lists; the sinani case was bad and definitely the sort of reaching play a mafia would make early on so he appears to be scumhunting. I haven't read Chrom's filter since, so he is also on my list, though I remember him asking a rather pointless question about my read on him that does not do him any favors. On June 11 2014 09:02 Koshi wrote:On June 11 2014 08:53 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 08:51 Koshi wrote: I voted Tica because I dislike him more. More words does not equal bigger scumread.
I still think my post was pretty good. Reason: I think my towns are town. My questionables good pressures points.
I will continue my quest tomorrow.
His recent posts backing up your wolf lean on him? How do you feel about Marv/Sandroba/JaT not liking your post at all? You think thats alignment indicative for any of them? Also You're doing a poor job of try harding if you make one post a day. Please don't go Cephiro mode on me. I have no interest in answering too many questions this game. If I dislike their posting you will be notified in future Koshi posts. I noticed Sandroba first dislike of my post was around my townreads not being good enough. After that he replied that my townreads were town but I wasn't when he got backed up by other Koshi - haters. Interesting that was. Probably only "interesting" person out of marv/Jat/Robik/Poofter/Sandroba. Updates will follow later. Koshi also notes what he thinks is an incongruity in sandro's posting. First sandro says this: On June 11 2014 08:13 sandroba wrote: koshi half your town reads are baseless and terrible and one of your scum leans town to me. This looks like pretend hard mode. And then this: On June 11 2014 08:23 sandroba wrote:On June 11 2014 08:16 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 08:15 sandroba wrote: hi =) you do realise you're going to have to be super-sexy after your tryhard mode in Catastrophe. Taking umbrage with that Koshi monstrosity is a good start No promisses. Not sure if I have the will to read this thread in detail if the amount of shit posting stays on this pace. I hope it's only because it just started. On June 11 2014 08:16 Koshi wrote: No sorry my towns are town. You misunderstand, I'm not I'm not saying they are mafia, I'm saying you are. While obviously sandro is just saying that Koshi's reasoning for calling his towns town is bad, Koshi thinks (and takes issue with the fact) that sandro is calling his reads bad, which is consistent with how he has posted thus far. On June 11 2014 08:51 Koshi wrote: I voted Tica because I dislike him more. More words does not equal bigger scumread.
I still think my post was pretty good. Reason: I think my towns are town. My questionables good pressures points.
I will continue my quest tomorrow.
He doesn't seem overly concerned with being wrong about his scumreads. I disagree with sandro that his townreads were terrible. While they appear thin, because Koshi doesn't really go into detail like I do, I actually think there were solid reasons to read those people town at that time, and Koshi picked up on the right posts. While he's not LOCK CLEAR, he's not my choice for the lynch for today. You went with meta for your VA read. Do you think Koshis play is in line with his town meta? Koshi doesn't really play town in any one discernible way, so the argument doesn't really exist that he's "playing different than how he plays town". I heavily, heavily disagree. The only thing you've said is that his big post "doesn't seem very townkoshilike" You need to provide a more substantive argument for him being mafia, because I currently disagree. There are many little things that could be listed and I don't care to do it but a main point is that the townkoshi I know interacts with the thread. Does it not occur to you that he's playing different than his usual game intentionally? It's the first thing I thought when I saw "tryhard filter starts here" First you say you disagree with me saying he plays differently and now this? Wut? It indeed ocurred to me although something like the tryhard announcement thing is perfectly in line with Koshis usual townplay. What he did after that just doesn't feel very tryhard. My secret suspicion is that if he is town he tries to post more like Foolishness which is a terrible idea especially for him. BUT he could aswell just post this way to make it harder to read him because he is a very easy read usually.
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On June 11 2014 21:47 yamato77 wrote: And if you don't think his reads were legitimate, why not? It's like sandroba said - the reads are not the biggest problem here (although I disagree with some). The reasoning is.
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On June 11 2014 21:51 marvellosity wrote: i think the long and short of it is that we need to wait till he posts some more.
so that we may judge him with all our ferocity, but in a just fashion. probably. This man. So wise. But the discussion/s was/were helpful - I now think yamato is town.
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On June 11 2014 22:51 marvellosity wrote: wow. Koshi became not-fun. how sad. Indeed. I am not liking this regardless of alignment... I like the new posts better than the first one. Hm.
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On June 12 2014 01:33 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 01:29 Palmar wrote: I don't understand why people are not joining me and BM on this strongandbig lynch. He has a very low townrating of only 5.88. And everyone should trust BM, he has a townrating of 11.1 which is quite high. What a bait, you should know the 3rd and 4th people on wagons are always mafia! It is known.
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On June 12 2014 02:37 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:Chrom. You said that your case on Sinani was "a very early-game case, and certainly not cause for a "strong scumread"". If that's the case then how do you explain this post? Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 07:02 Chromatically wrote:Yeah sinani is scum because his mindset doesn't make sense with what he's done. On June 11 2014 06:31 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:27 Chromatically wrote:On June 11 2014 06:23 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote: He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote: the deepest one in the nest ##Vote: sinani206 Because staying out of the conversation is the best way to be a useful townie. No, asking useful questions and giving reads is. But your question here has no impact on anyone's alignment, and your other question is a soft-defense of Robik for no reason. On June 11 2014 06:22 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:18 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 06:03 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:00 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 05:56 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 05:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote: [quote]
another good point.
god im so confused.
this game is really hard.
can everyone see what im saying? im saying that im really confused because this game is confusing.
shit i hope nobody notices me omg. I wanna bait this post so badly and see who is the first to call out obiwan for this shitty shit shitterson of a post because it's so easy to hammer him on the lack of anything logical or tangible here. The post is too scummy to be written by scum You should have waited to see if anyone would bite you literally waited 5 minutes. Rolling mafia as a hydra must suck, especially since Robik doesn't wolf very well. ##Vote: Roundaboud I'm impatient Banksy. Plus, I don't know how to bait shit. You know how I play...I just spout whatever the hell comes to my head at the moment. Plus, I think that baiting is kinda silly in general. It's too tough to do properly, and unless people read the post the same way you do, you end up with a shitton of people just thinking that you're scum defending a scum buddy instead of reading you for making a good play. Why so defensive? Is explaining a post that someone just voted you for overdefensive? What was your thought process when you asked these questions? I wanted to know the answer because I would react in a similar way if someone voted for me. Maybe more concisely, as I did when you voted for me, perhaps, but it doesn't seem wrong for Round to defend himself. The nicknames = mafia thing was just a waste of time and I was pointing out bat's hypocrisy. According to here, his post was meant to get a read on JAT, based on whether JAT's justification for pressuring round matched up with sinani's own thoughts on round's defense. But JAT (unless I totally missed it) didn't respond to the question. And if JAT is questionable/possible scum to sinani, he would be getting him to answer the question to help him read JAT. And the noncommittal read on JAT is bad in and of itself. I don't like this guy.
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On June 12 2014 03:05 Chromatically wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 02:44 justanothertownie wrote:On June 12 2014 02:37 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:Chrom. You said that your case on Sinani was "a very early-game case, and certainly not cause for a "strong scumread"". If that's the case then how do you explain this post? On June 11 2014 07:02 Chromatically wrote:Yeah sinani is scum because his mindset doesn't make sense with what he's done. On June 11 2014 06:31 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:27 Chromatically wrote:On June 11 2014 06:23 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote: [quote]
Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote: the deepest one in the nest ##Vote: sinani206 Because staying out of the conversation is the best way to be a useful townie. No, asking useful questions and giving reads is. But your question here has no impact on anyone's alignment, and your other question is a soft-defense of Robik for no reason. On June 11 2014 06:22 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:18 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 06:03 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:00 Tehpoofter wrote: [quote]
You should have waited to see if anyone would bite you literally waited 5 minutes. Rolling mafia as a hydra must suck, especially since Robik doesn't wolf very well.
##Vote: Roundaboud I'm impatient Banksy. Plus, I don't know how to bait shit. You know how I play...I just spout whatever the hell comes to my head at the moment. Plus, I think that baiting is kinda silly in general. It's too tough to do properly, and unless people read the post the same way you do, you end up with a shitton of people just thinking that you're scum defending a scum buddy instead of reading you for making a good play. Why so defensive? Is explaining a post that someone just voted you for overdefensive? What was your thought process when you asked these questions? I wanted to know the answer because I would react in a similar way if someone voted for me. Maybe more concisely, as I did when you voted for me, perhaps, but it doesn't seem wrong for Round to defend himself. The nicknames = mafia thing was just a waste of time and I was pointing out bat's hypocrisy. According to here, his post was meant to get a read on JAT, based on whether JAT's justification for pressuring round matched up with sinani's own thoughts on round's defense. But JAT (unless I totally missed it) didn't respond to the question. And if JAT is questionable/possible scum to sinani, he would be getting him to answer the question to help him read JAT. And the noncommittal read on JAT is bad in and of itself. I don't like this guy. I agree with this. How surprising... I think he is unneccessarily nitpicking here. I can't see how someone genuinely thinks you are scummy for that out of all things.
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On June 12 2014 03:41 kushm4sta wrote: im now a jester. please kill me. If there is a vig that person might aswell do so.
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On June 12 2014 05:54 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 05:40 gumshoe wrote:On June 12 2014 05:26 ExO_ wrote: Gumshoe, I don't see what makes you think I'm afraid to give out opinions on people. I think the vast majority of what's happening so far is silly speculation based on virtually nothing. I have no desire to join the super psycho-analyst club and explain why every little post means you either scum or town. When I've had opinions on people I've voiced them so far.
Though I think the early banter may serve a purpose, people are way to full of themselves if they honestly believe they can discern mafia based on whats happened so far. When I have something to add, I'll add it. Ultimately Exo, this is a game / : and I often feel like town players get that, but scum don't as a result of the fear we impose on them. A reluctance to post reads as fear to me but I've never played you before so I won't pretend as if I really know what your thinking. That said, I feel it's unfair of you to amount all that's been said to psycho analyst banter ) : a lot of interesting valid things have been said by your peers and if none of it appeals to you why are you playing this game? Speaking of which, your goal in this match is two fold, it is not enough to find scum, you have to prove to us that your town so that by the time you do offer up your true accusations we trust you enough to follow. that's why we all offer these reads ( even if they're not perfect) as opposed to hoarding our suspicions like menacing house wives. mmmm but I feel almost like it's rude to voice without good reasoning. For example, JAT has posted barely anything worthwhile imo, rarely posting more than a single sentence. I don't feel like he's doing anything to contribute towards town, and is just generally stirring things up while sitting back. But I don't have any major disagreements with the things he's saying, nor do I feel like me scrutinizing him is justified in this case as I have nothing really to go on. So I haven't said anything. Anybody else keeping up with the thread can clearly read what I'm reading and can make their own judgements on him. There's nothing I feel like I've noticed that needs to be voiced. Everybody else seems to have a better feel for everybody else, having played them in other games; this is my first game so I'm getting my first reads on everybody right now. I don't think it's fair for me to voice every thought and possibility that occurs to me just yet because I don't know everybody. I'm still forming my opinions, and I'd hate to undermine my ability to argue what I think later because I committed to an opinion too early (that I later changed my mind on.) How is the bolded not a glaring contradiction?
On June 12 2014 06:04 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 05:06 Koshi wrote: Either I am really wrong or everybody else is really wrong.
I am going to go with everybody else. I don't feel like this is something village koshi reasons out. He usually is one to just try to sheep/read off others bringing in his own evidence but not ignore everyone else. Weird. This post looks exactly like "village" koshi to me. I would give him townpoints for this.
On June 12 2014 06:21 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote: gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me? I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch. He got 4 votes... there is 30 people. I mean if it was 10 votes in 5 minutes thats one thing but 4 votes I hardly think is pause for concern. Maybe but you have to take into account that besides the votes on him there were several influential people calling for his head.
On June 12 2014 08:16 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 07:37 marvellosity wrote:On June 12 2014 07:35 ritoky wrote:On June 12 2014 07:33 marvellosity wrote:On June 12 2014 07:32 ritoky wrote:On June 12 2014 07:28 marvellosity wrote:On June 12 2014 07:27 ritoky wrote:On June 12 2014 06:50 marvellosity wrote:On June 12 2014 06:48 ritoky wrote:On June 12 2014 06:43 Tehpoofter wrote: [quote]
I just think that you are a smart/good enough player to realize you might just be very off. Especially if a lot of people are not reading the same especially when you have a scum read in a game so large on one of the more active players.
I may have read it last night and forgotten but what was the reason you're voting MZ? Idk, I am reading the thread fairly similarly to koshi. Maybe not so much on who he thought was town in his earlier posts, but his top 2 scum reads are MZ and chrom, and I agree with both; chrom for similar reasons, MZ for somewhat meta reasons. The response of the read by chrom is just off. He gets wayyyyyy too strong of a scum read off of nearly nothing from sinani, it just doesn't sit well at all. And in regards to MZ, all he said in response to my freedom post (which was specifically directed at him) was "good to see ritokys town". I expected at least a murrica joke or picture in response. But moreso he just oozed town last game and I don't get those same vibes from him. Plus his posting style is much different, much more restrained. Just feels off. could you answer my previous question to you pls? sorry, must have missed it. TMI = too much information? as in chrom has more information than me, as in he knows whos mafia and whos town, as in he's mafia. is that the explanation you were looking for? but if it reeks of TMI, the only logical explanation is that Koshi is mafia. otherwise it doesn't make sense. what else am I missing? ? that post was about sinani, JAT, and chrom? I was talking about how I felt Chrom baited out sinani into giving a crap read on JAT because JAT hadn't really posted in the thread much; then he disproportionately reacted to the read given by sinani and claimed a STRONG scum read from it. How any1 gets a strong read at all from sinani's early filter is beyond me. So I think he is working with some excess info. yes i got the wrong name. what extra information do you think he is working with then? that's what i'm getting at. what extra info does he have that leads him to question it more forecefully than you think is warranted Your logic here is circular. I just said chrom was mafia about 30 seconds ago. I think he either knew sinani was town and was trying to get in easy points or he knew sinani was mafia and was trying to bus early, either way the scope of chrom's reaction is bs and he is probably scum. And question it is being generous. He didn't really question it, he just claimed massive scum read. that's just random baseless speculation though. you can't say something reeks of TMI and then not even have an opinion on what the information is, that's ridiculous. it's quite a leap to go from "this reaction is over the top" to "this reeks of TMI" i fail to see where the logical leap is. someone asks a question, someone gives an inconclusive answer imo, the person who asked concludes something extreme from the answer. to me that indicates that he has some information that i don't. if you don't see that then i think you need to freshen up on your logic. Marv already explained this well enough but once again: If he has additional information that means he either KNOWS sinani is town or he KNOWS sinani is scum. Since he is pushing for him you seem to indicate that the latter is the case. That only makes sense if they are scumbuddies.
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On June 12 2014 15:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote: can we not fixate on whether or not holyflare is actually gone or not?
waste of time, nothing is happening in this conversation. Yes please.
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On June 12 2014 16:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 15:59 Holyflare wrote:On June 12 2014 15:56 ObiWanShinobi wrote:hey, you pointed out my hypocrisy. i guess youve earned an answer then.
i think your push on kush is really shallow and it makes me feel like ive missed something. kind of like last game. lots of your pushes were based on people not doing things and they really bothered me because its an easy agenda for scum to push.
but you were town so what do i know. how do i read thread someone help glob glob glob lets talk in a circle sure okay. So do you actually think HF is scum?
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On June 12 2014 18:04 Koshi wrote: In which game did BH modkill himself and his 2 masonbuddies? The aborted pm game.
I don't like MZs push on VA. Easy to do and Vayne is known to not give a fuck as town. In my experience he isn't as blatant as scum.
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On June 12 2014 18:46 Koshi wrote: justanothertownie Why is ObiWan or CR scum?
I ask this because I think you are scum. I don't really want to lynch either of them right now. Why?
On June 12 2014 19:26 Koshi wrote:JaT response to getting called scum: Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:51 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 06:50 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:46 Chromatically wrote: Sinani what do you think of JAT? Mostly one-liners and wishy washy, I don't really have time right now to quote because I have a meeting at 2:50 but if he keeps this kind of useless posting up I can see a chance of him being red. Oh no! Did you gather that from your question to me? As scum in Intrigue (sadly only 1 example because there is only 1 example available because JAT seems to roll town only): Show nested quote +On January 13 2014 07:33 justanothertownie wrote:On January 13 2014 07:28 Koshi wrote:First time you said you need to go but made 3 more posts. Maybe it is townie, but I don't remember you doing that in other games. But ok, not scummy for this: + Show Spoiler +On January 12 2014 02:44 justanothertownie wrote: You are seriously candidating for mayor rayn?
See you in ~ 3 hours. On January 12 2014 02:45 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2014 02:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: Apparently i thought Cheesecake was town last game, i wasn't the driving force behind lynching Corazon and Artanis was an easy catch on N1. But in the end kush might misremember that game..
Apparently in Extractor trick in the end of D1 my scumreads were gumshoe and yamato. I think thrawn can tell more about this.
Also in other games kushm4sta has played with me my D1 reads have been terrible. He won't elaborate more though. Ok, I don't know which games you are talking about but I will take your word for it I guess. On January 12 2014 02:47 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2014 02:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: ofc i am. Why are people doubting it? I just want to know if it is worthwhile to consider to elect you. Last post for now. On January 12 2014 02:48 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2014 02:46 marvellosity wrote: jat, you didn't quite grasp rayn's dripping sarcasm there, did you I obviously didn't. Maybe cause I am in a hurry right now. But here you do it again, and it's not like you got a million posts. You have like 20 posts total back then and 8 are made "in a hurry": + Show Spoiler +On January 12 2014 12:48 justanothertownie wrote: Anyways I am off for now. It has gotten really late. On January 12 2014 13:09 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2014 13:00 thrawn2112 wrote: Has anyone talked to JAT in pms? I have been recently and I got the impression that he was making up his reads on the spot. Explanations were short and there weren't many conclusions. He also only talked about people that I mentioned first, something I noticed about my own scum mason play (esp the rayn chat) from Time to Die. Does anyone have similar or contrasting experiences with him in pm's? Well the reason for this is probably that some of those reads were indeed formed on the spot. I did not think deeply about all of the persons on your list and had to think about what my actual opinion on some of them is. The thing about the restricted and intelligent thing that is lacking are these 5 consecutive posts of you On January 12 2014 06:39 justanothertownie wrote:On January 12 2014 06:37 yamato77 wrote: Well, if it's Chez, we pretty much just ignore/lynch him at our convenience.
It would be nice to know who it is, regardless. Why? The only time I played with Chezinu (PYP) he played really well and townie. On January 12 2014 07:46 justanothertownie wrote:On January 12 2014 07:45 Blazinghand wrote: well i retract any reason of lynchinig kush! don't lynch him as he is actually vayne Mind = blown. On January 12 2014 07:54 justanothertownie wrote:On January 12 2014 07:53 Alakaslam wrote: What about a mayor you can WotC? I am open. Huh? On January 12 2014 08:09 justanothertownie wrote:On January 12 2014 08:06 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On January 12 2014 08:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 12 2014 08:01 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On January 12 2014 07:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 12 2014 03:23 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On January 12 2014 03:21 yamato77 wrote: [quote] Implied suspicion?
I think Xatalos is townie from what I know of him. This seems nitpicky. I don't think so at all. You have four or five people listed, you only barely called one of them scum, you're not really asking questions of any of them. If I was on that list I wouldn't feel any need to respond to anything Xatalos said. He talks about suchdoges suspicious behavior then says it's more likely town than scum so what is he even getting at? I wish people would stop posting lists like that, they're the worst posts ever. So DrH you make a post like this where i assume you call Xatalos scummy. About 10 minutes later you PM me about your scumreads and "funny feelings" but Xatalos is not there. Why? what do you mean why You give me a list of your scumreads. I assume you are asking me about what i think of them. If Xatalos is your scumread why the hell is he not on the list? And why are you voting for yamato for mayor if i am going to execute your scumread? i don't like you to be honest i've never hated anyone in a game more than i hate you but i think you're town, i'm being petty This only answers the second question and not the first one. On January 12 2014 11:01 justanothertownie wrote:On January 12 2014 10:59 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 12 2014 10:58 DoctorHelvetica wrote: forcing a claim out of you is ideal anyway tbh Why, exactly? Were you planning on tunneling this to the ends of the earth? I don't really get this either. On January 12 2014 11:43 justanothertownie wrote:On January 12 2014 11:35 Aquanim wrote:On January 12 2014 11:17 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On January 12 2014 11:16 Aquanim wrote:On January 12 2014 11:08 DoctorHelvetica wrote: let's talk about how derrida is scum Yeah, OK. Reasons to think he's scum: list post, but that's a heuristic in which I have only limited confidence bases his mayoral preferences first on "enjoying reading their filter because it is srs" and second his read on them Reasons to think he's town: I got nuffin, but I do have... Reasons I'm not certain yet: he has like 2 posts and being a newbie his thinking about "is this relevant to whether they should be mayor or not" probably isn't expected to be entirely accurate whatever his alignment tl;dr I'm not certain he's scum but he's a reasonable guess P.S. will go meta him now re. Marv's statement do you have a stronger read on someone else then? No. I have a couple of similar strength though. All I see in justanothertownie's two-page filter is kinda pointless oneliners in which he commits to almost nothing. For all I know he's doing work in PMs, but based on his thread presence so far he's another possible scum for me. This one isn't a scumread as such, but as long as Captain Obvious continues to post only "obvious" stuff and committing to nothing he's going to be next to impossible to read I think. And then there's the eight or so other lurkers. Of the active players I reckon at least most are town. Maybe you could point out the scummy things in my 2 page filter then? Or is my thread presence the only reason for your read? You don't even have one filter page and call other people lurkers... But I just glanced over some pages of PYP and you do this kinda one-liners there as well so mehhhh. okokok You are off the list. Is your confidence in your other reads of similar strength? Is this your case Koshi? Impressing.
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I like marvs lynchpool. Not that scummy on CR and haru but ketomai, kingofthecats, ritoky and snb are good lynches.
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That might be the worst case on me I have ever seen.
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On June 12 2014 20:43 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 21:49 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 21:47 yamato77 wrote: And if you don't think his reads were legitimate, why not? It's like sandroba said - the reads are not the biggest problem here (although I disagree with some). The reasoning is. With what reads do you disagree and why? Because the bolded looks like bullshit. I didn't understand a townread on obiwan or CR at that point and I obviously disagreed strongly with your chrom scumread. Tica also wasn't very scummy to me.
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On June 12 2014 21:26 marvellosity wrote: also, no-one, which means no mafia, have really talked about this no-hoper before
this is a good sign I remember commenting on him.
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On June 12 2014 21:26 Koshi wrote: He sure loves his filters. I am still feeling JAT more. Yeah, you are always feeling JAT and look like a retard in the process. Almost every game.
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On June 12 2014 21:30 marvellosity wrote: really i don't want to see if people agree with me, but if people can tell me reasons why KoC could be town, I'd like to hear them. Have none would lynch.
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On June 12 2014 21:32 marvellosity wrote: jat i'd much rather you engaged productively with the thread than bitched at koshi. But he deserves it and you know it. What would you like me to engage then?
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On June 12 2014 21:35 marvellosity wrote: well there are 6 mafia. i think i may have found one. maybe there is another in my list (honestly i doubt there are more than 2 in the list of 6 i gave).
maybe you could tell me why ketomai and s&b are or are not mafia, why you have reservations, why you don't, same with ritoky, MZ. Or anyone you like.
Anyone can do this actually. Well first of all I haven't got a townread on any of them and it's not like I haven't already said that. For detailed reasoning I would have to reread. Maybe I will do that soon.
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SnB:
On June 11 2014 23:41 strongandbig wrote: Finished reading through page 48 on phone Have to go to work Some notes to calm thy tits, thread: Townish: - chromatically
Scummish: - palmar not trying on day 1 - koshi for pretty random townreads and listpost - rainbows bad reasoning for scum read on koshi. Tries to make something shitty up, indicates he's not comfortable just agreeing with good reasoning already posted - indicates selfconscious mafia.
Good args: - chromatically on why sinani is scum - mz on why round is scum - koshi on why tica is scum - (sort of good) round on why ketomi is scum I don't like this post. Palmar not trying is not scummy. SnB puts suspicion in Rainbows for the scumread on Koshi while he does the same (and his reasoning is not very detailed either). Says Koshi is scum but likes his reasoning for Tica being scum (I disagree).
Has done nothing else except for complaining.
We can definitely kill that guy. I see nothing towny here and if you compare his filter to YOSO you will see that he is much townier there.
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Ketomai:
Weird start with the voting but not alignment indicative I think.
On June 11 2014 12:18 ketomai wrote: Go for it if you want to waste your time and lynch. People who are hanging onto me are clearly just looking for another topic to create more chaos or just to prod me. It's pretty obvious to anyone objectively looking that I haven't even started the game yet. If the town is stupid enough to blind lynch me, then so be it. Have fun losing the rest of your game if you get manipulated into being distracted by random comments like mine. Scummy post. Unwarranted martyring.
He then promises one content post and delivers this: + Show Spoiler +On June 12 2014 12:33 ketomai wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 11:29 ObiWanShinobi wrote: i noticed poofter's post on ketomai and i realized that ketomai still hasnt done anything and should still probably die. more votes on him pls. I'm here and I realize you're just pressuring me to respond, but reading 50 straight pages of mostly spam is honestly exhausting (and impossible for me after a long day at work). I gave up in the middle and just took a cursory glance through filters and whatnot for current top votes. I also took a look at a few other people that showed up near the beginning of the thread. I'll try to keep up with the thread from now on. Hopefully there's less spam in the future because missing 1 day so far seems to be catastrophic. Top votes: Koshi: Leaning slightly towards mafia. Biggest flag is his lack of cooperation with town as noted by others. He doesn't really argue, he just tries to pass off his viewpoints on the grounds that it should be obvious. I'm willing to wait on how he responds now that he's under pressure now and after he's promised to be more cooperative, however. He hasn't really contributed much other than defending himself. Also, I disagree with pretty much everything he says, but that doesn't really make him more or less mafia. Exo: Leaning slightly towards town. He doesn't spam up the thread and has only posted the few times he's confident in his opinion. However, his last post that also contained his vote jumped to a conclusion really fast without much evidence. The way he said it leaves room for change, like my own vote, so I'm also not too suspicious of that. It feels more like he honestly doesn't know who to vote for because there's so much spam/finger pointing as a newer player. Roundabout: No read. When he was attacking me earlier I thought he was doing that to everyone to create some chaos, but after looking through the filters he hasn't really done much past the early game. The point about him not contributing much is true, but not enough grounds to seem mafia yet; the game is early. The jump on me was a bit strange since I, personally, felt it was useless garbage spamming up the thread, but I'll ignore that. I would like to see him post more now that the "heat" is off of him. strongandbig: Seems a little bit like mafia. Would be the easy pick to vote but I'd love to see him defend himself first because like my suspicions for every one else after 1 day, I'm not sure. If anything, a lynch wouldn't be so bad just because he's not productive/working w/ the town. ritoky: Currently seems like mafia to me. He's on consistently throughout the day (his posts are very spread out), yet he doesn't really seem to contribute or address the game at all. He's just tunnel visioning Chromatically with nearly all his posts (who I personally have tagged as slightly town, so I naturally disagree with most of what he's saying). Chairman Ray: slightly town. So far everything he posts is pretty logical. I disagree a bit with his leaps on roundabout, but he's defended himself and arguments pretty well, so I like that. He brings up his own arguments to add to town discussion as well, which is usually good if they make sense. MZ: Other than furthering the VA lynchwagon (unless I missed some great post about it), not enough info, no read. Anyway I made a post because I promised it, but as you can see my knowledge of the thread is not very thorough yet. You should view these as my initial thoughts. I feel strongest about ritoky out of the people I checked so I'll vote on him for now to get him to speak out. I don't really know if I think this post on it's own is towny enough to let him survive day1. Since he already announced that this will be all we get from him today. I think it is quite weird how he adds reads on MZ and roundabout that say nothing while leaving most of the players out of this post. Why include them? Also a completely non-committal read on SnB.
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On June 12 2014 22:16 marvellosity wrote: incidentally YOSO also shows that Koshi is capable of making and believing really terrible cases on day 1 as town. just throwin that out there. I know. That's why I am not calling him scum right now.
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Hmm, KotCs returns when votes arrive. Coincidence?
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Ritoky:
Hasn't done much towny stuff. But I don't see that much scummy stuff either reading his filter. The TMI stuff IS weird and makes no sense but he is not backtracking, sticking to his guns and agressively so. This guy is new, right? I don't really see a new scum defend this that hard.
Not as good as a lynch as the other 2.
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MZ:
The thing I dislike the most here is the VA push. If it's just pure policy it is probably ok but not if MZ really thinks this is VAs scummeta. He could go either way. I think I would prefer lynching Ketomai/SnB/KotC over him right now.
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On June 12 2014 22:19 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 16:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On June 12 2014 16:12 justanothertownie wrote:On June 12 2014 16:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On June 12 2014 15:59 Holyflare wrote:On June 12 2014 15:56 ObiWanShinobi wrote:hey, you pointed out my hypocrisy. i guess youve earned an answer then.
i think your push on kush is really shallow and it makes me feel like ive missed something. kind of like last game. lots of your pushes were based on people not doing things and they really bothered me because its an easy agenda for scum to push.
but you were town so what do i know. how do i read thread someone help glob glob glob lets talk in a circle sure okay. So do you actually think HF is scum? nah, im making fun of him. So you think HF is town yet you unvoted Kush citing HF's reasons being shallow (and presumably scummy because of that) despite the fact that his reasons were exactly the same as yours? Explain. This is another post I don't really see being genuine. Obiwan already said he was making fun of HF. Who really thinks that the things he wrote right before that are scummy then? I am just not amazed by KotCs contributions. He nitpicks on little things and it seems to me like he has problems finding something to post/is posting for the sake of having posted.
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On June 12 2014 23:26 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 23:11 marvellosity wrote: is that how you actually read it then? Coming from someone that said Round was scum for using a nickname i wouldn't put it past him to try that. The problem is it's difficult to tell if he's bad scum or just bad, that's why i FoS'd him. On their own they're not good enough reasons to lynch him but they count as points against him if he does something blatantly scummy down the road. Who isREALLY scummy/who do you think should be lynched today?
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Or is this bat stuff still all you got?
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On June 13 2014 01:58 Koshi wrote: oh when BM is defending SnB I don't have to do it. I had no reasons anyway.
##unvote SnB ##vote TheKingofCats ???
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On June 13 2014 02:14 Koshi wrote: We should just lynch JaT. The guy is confused at what is happening. His latest contribution was pointing out I mixed up 2 names. I am not confused at what is happening I am confused about what you meant with the post in question.
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On June 13 2014 02:30 sinani206 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 02:28 Koshi wrote: Yeah but this lie (if it is a lie and not simply bad memory) serves no purpose. I can't even think of 1 mafia reason to lie. I think it's definitely a lie. His memory can't be bad enough to forget what he had affirmed 21 minutes before. So what?
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On June 13 2014 02:32 Bill Murray wrote: marv i can make a better case on kotc in 5 words than you have Go for it.
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On June 13 2014 02:35 sinani206 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 02:33 justanothertownie wrote:On June 13 2014 02:30 sinani206 wrote:On June 13 2014 02:28 Koshi wrote: Yeah but this lie (if it is a lie and not simply bad memory) serves no purpose. I can't even think of 1 mafia reason to lie. I think it's definitely a lie. His memory can't be bad enough to forget what he had affirmed 21 minutes before. So what? I don't know what you're asking How is it important if it is a lie?
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On June 13 2014 02:38 sinani206 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 02:36 justanothertownie wrote:On June 13 2014 02:35 sinani206 wrote:On June 13 2014 02:33 justanothertownie wrote:On June 13 2014 02:30 sinani206 wrote:On June 13 2014 02:28 Koshi wrote: Yeah but this lie (if it is a lie and not simply bad memory) serves no purpose. I can't even think of 1 mafia reason to lie. I think it's definitely a lie. His memory can't be bad enough to forget what he had affirmed 21 minutes before. So what? I don't know what you're asking How is it important if it is a lie? Well it was the point of discussion in the thread. Also, I'm in favor of LaL. Ok, this leads nowhere but keep in mind what koshi said. This lie makes absolutely 0 sense for mafia snb. Hell, it is even slightly towny that he doesn't care about how he looks/what he wrote earlier.
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On June 13 2014 02:46 ObiWanShinobi wrote: ive got an idea.
instead of trying to find mafia, lets all bm each other and call everyone dumb.
thats how you win the game. I had no idea!
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On June 13 2014 03:12 Chromatically wrote: The case on Cats is good but it basically relies on him being experienced/good. He could be actually new or just really bad. ritoky has done things that are scum-motivated, not just bad. I'll consolidate my case because I think I wasn't very clear yesterday. Slam told you already but in case you didn't get it - kotc is not new. He is from OMGUS. Any other reason why you would think he is town?
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On June 13 2014 03:39 Holyflare wrote: FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM oh shit...
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On June 13 2014 03:41 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 03:40 Bill Murray wrote:On June 13 2014 03:39 Holyflare wrote: FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM ok so kingofthecats is like the only likely lynch at this point unless all the active players consolidate somewhere we have an hour and change SICK, what's the deal with KoC? Take a look into his filter and decide for yourself if there is a deal. Won't take you very long.
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On June 13 2014 03:54 Holyflare wrote: why is nobody around with an hour to go???? Hi.
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On June 13 2014 04:26 batsnacks wrote: Holyflare has law school made you be afk before in TL mafia? Could you please link me to a game of yours where it has. This is important. No it really isn't.
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On June 13 2014 04:36 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 04:35 marvellosity wrote: kush is #1 vig shot btw. dunno why you'd lynch him. How do you know? He is suggesting a vig shot not calling it.
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On June 13 2014 04:38 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 04:37 justanothertownie wrote:On June 13 2014 04:36 batsnacks wrote:On June 13 2014 04:35 marvellosity wrote: kush is #1 vig shot btw. dunno why you'd lynch him. How do you know? He is suggesting a vig shot not calling it. Thanks for answering even though marv already answered Yeah, like 10 seconds before me. Hinting at anything?
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On June 13 2014 04:39 Holyflare wrote:can we switch to kush so i can go drink now? It surprises me how convinced you are with this.
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On June 13 2014 04:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 04:42 Holyflare wrote:On June 13 2014 04:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On June 13 2014 04:41 Holyflare wrote:On June 13 2014 04:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote: kush should absolutely be vigged, no need to waste a lynch on that guy.
but since holyflare is pushing him he must be like 1000% confirmed town. i'm just going to call you stevelisk because you're about as useless as him but not as hyped up as a zergling i have a terran avatar. can you at least call me stevecruiser or something? or maybe like a crucio steve tank. idk something clever. im a bad person. steve3po ill roll with it, love the pun. also yes ketomai is a strange case but idk. i liked his last post but he just fucked off entirely since he made it and that worries me. Well, he announced it so you can't really be surprised by that.
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On June 13 2014 04:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 04:46 justanothertownie wrote:On June 13 2014 04:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On June 13 2014 04:42 Holyflare wrote:On June 13 2014 04:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On June 13 2014 04:41 Holyflare wrote:On June 13 2014 04:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote: kush should absolutely be vigged, no need to waste a lynch on that guy.
but since holyflare is pushing him he must be like 1000% confirmed town. i'm just going to call you stevelisk because you're about as useless as him but not as hyped up as a zergling i have a terran avatar. can you at least call me stevecruiser or something? or maybe like a crucio steve tank. idk something clever. im a bad person. steve3po ill roll with it, love the pun. also yes ketomai is a strange case but idk. i liked his last post but he just fucked off entirely since he made it and that worries me. Well, he announced it so you can't really be surprised by that. not like that makes it a good thing. True.
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On June 13 2014 04:56 Koshi wrote: If we lynch mafia I will be able to watch soccer in peace. Koshi scum for appeasing the muricans.
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On June 13 2014 05:02 Koshi wrote: so scum lost 1 kp. I am amused.
marv confirmed really good at the game. Am I still scum? I was like the first person to call this dude out.
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On June 13 2014 05:04 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 05:03 justanothertownie wrote:On June 13 2014 05:02 Koshi wrote: so scum lost 1 kp. I am amused.
marv confirmed really good at the game. Am I still scum? I was like the first person to call this dude out. Sure. Mafia knows who mafia is. And you did literally nothing with it till marv started wagon. You make me sad.
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On June 13 2014 05:06 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 05:05 justanothertownie wrote:On June 13 2014 05:04 Koshi wrote:On June 13 2014 05:03 justanothertownie wrote:On June 13 2014 05:02 Koshi wrote: so scum lost 1 kp. I am amused.
marv confirmed really good at the game. Am I still scum? I was like the first person to call this dude out. Sure. Mafia knows who mafia is. And you did literally nothing with it till marv started wagon. You make me sad. I sort of agree with Kosher. Not that I want to lynch you tomorrow, but yeah, you're one of the people who gain the least cred for this. I think I did more for this lynch than most of the people on the wagon but ok. Whatever.
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On June 13 2014 05:09 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 05:09 justanothertownie wrote:On June 13 2014 05:06 Palmar wrote:On June 13 2014 05:05 justanothertownie wrote:On June 13 2014 05:04 Koshi wrote:On June 13 2014 05:03 justanothertownie wrote:On June 13 2014 05:02 Koshi wrote: so scum lost 1 kp. I am amused.
marv confirmed really good at the game. Am I still scum? I was like the first person to call this dude out. Sure. Mafia knows who mafia is. And you did literally nothing with it till marv started wagon. You make me sad. I sort of agree with Kosher. Not that I want to lynch you tomorrow, but yeah, you're one of the people who gain the least cred for this. I think I did more for this lynch than most of the people on the wagon but ok. Whatever. I didn't do jack shit for this lynch and still look more town than you. You look town BECAUSE you have done jack shit. Nothing to do with me or this lynch -_-
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On June 13 2014 07:22 Koshi wrote: Robik could you check JaT, MZ and Chrom?
##Foolishness read: MZ You are a hopeless case... let's accuse the players who went at the flipped scum early of all people. Because a bus day1 with KP on the line makes tons of sense. Why use your brain when you can just keep spouting the same bullshit regardless of what is happening. Not talking about MZ here of course.
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On June 13 2014 07:29 Koshi wrote: How can you like JaT early? By having good reads.
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On June 13 2014 08:22 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 08:12 Koshi wrote:On June 13 2014 08:11 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 13 2014 08:03 Koshi wrote: Poofter how are your reads going btw? Any updates? Have only read through just after the point where Marv made his case. Idk what JAT is doing around these pages its weird. I'll give it as I go. This Annoys me + Show Spoiler +On June 12 2014 21:18 HaruRH wrote:Heck, I'll even help you make a huge post on why we should all lynch Haru. Firstly, this haru guy don't even Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote: gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me? I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch. I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it. All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh. My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch. ##Vote:Chairman Ray contribute Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 05:43 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 05:40 Koshi wrote:On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote: gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me? I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch. I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it. All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh. My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch. ##Vote:Chairman Ray CR defended me from the get-go. The posts he made around me were also extremely thought out. If you are referring to him saying my post looked scummy than that is because he actually thought it looked scummy. But after that he gave reasons to why he thinks I am town. If I remember correctly from a previous game CR is capable to make big thought out post as scum, but he is more disconnected with the thread while doing so, he just pops in with huge ass posts. In this game he is having good thought out opinions in the moment. I wouldn't lynch him. Those other 2 names in your post, Rainbows and TicaTica, those are the people that are interesting. Meta argument is something I cannot push upon since I don't know much about anyone yet. So I'll just assume that koshi is correct about CR's play. I'll stay with this vote until someone more scummy pops out. At Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 18:05 HaruRH wrote:After diving SnB, I realised the pool is so shallow theres no need to bring a snorkel. So here's why SnB makes me wanna lynch the scum out of him: On June 11 2014 23:41 strongandbig wrote: Finished reading through page 48 on phone Have to go to work Some notes to calm thy tits, thread: Townish: - chromatically
Scummish: - palmar not trying on day 1 - koshi for pretty random townreads and listpost - rainbows bad reasoning for scum read on koshi. Tries to make something shitty up, indicates he's not comfortable just agreeing with good reasoning already posted - indicates selfconscious mafia.
Good args: - chromatically on why sinani is scum - mz on why round is scum - koshi on why tica is scum - (sort of good) round on why ketomi is scum On June 12 2014 04:55 strongandbig wrote: Blergh caught up with the thread and lunch is over [complain about spam, maybe if I do it more it's likely to work]
Anyway, I would kill koshi right now. Don't have anything new to add, I like chromatic ally's case
Also would still kill rainbows soo... He thinks koshi makes good arguments, then want to lynch koshi. On June 12 2014 04:17 strongandbig wrote:On June 11 2014 13:31 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 13:26 Chairman Ray wrote:On June 11 2014 13:23 batsnacks wrote: Chairman, without reading the above post, I really wish both your posts about me weren't perfectly sequential dissections of literally everything I said. Sorry, I'll try to keep it brief from now on. You can just read the "Overall" statement at the end Look I like everything you said I think it's great. I read the whole thing. You got an A+ on your homework for sure. I really, really, really hate that you commented on everything I said in the order I said it in both posts though. If you are mafia which I think you probably are, that's the only thing you should have changed to make it better. This is stupid. There's nothing wrong with an in-depth post by post analysis and the fact that newer players don't know this is just a sign of how spammy and annoying the meta has gotten . Then he shitposts. ALL. Then, this haru guy dont even defend himself Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 20:43 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 20:31 marvellosity wrote: by and large Haru was very earnest and straightforward in Detention (as well as kinda fun at the start), whereas i'm not really seeing any of that here. So you're meta-ing me based on 1 game? Lol thats the reason why I'm changing now, to avoid further meta reads. Not going to streamline my play into 1 category lol Thus I deduce this haru guy is scum 100%. ##Vote: HaruRH not sure if its really alignment indicative but it makes me not like him. What is weird about JAT? I am very interested. On page 81 right after the case on Marv happened JAT was argueing with you and felt like to me really buddying Marv. Since we now know KoTC was wolf the logic of JAT seeing a teammate going down to villageMarv and wanting to immediately help makes a lot of sense here. I need to read the rest of how the day evolved cause he did end up voting him but I would not be surprised by the interactions on that page if JAT turned out to be wolf. 1) I was suspicious of him BEFORE marvs case and also said this in the thread. 2) No, it does not make a lot of sense. It did not seem like marv was locked in on this lynch if I was mafia with KotC the logical thing would be to try and make marv go after someone else. Why would I give up KP without a fight. 3) I had a strong townread on marv at that point. Letting townmarv decide things has proven helpful in the past. I let him lead. Sue me.
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On June 13 2014 08:46 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 08:33 justanothertownie wrote:On June 13 2014 08:22 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 13 2014 08:12 Koshi wrote:On June 13 2014 08:11 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 13 2014 08:03 Koshi wrote: Poofter how are your reads going btw? Any updates? Have only read through just after the point where Marv made his case. Idk what JAT is doing around these pages its weird. I'll give it as I go. This Annoys me + Show Spoiler +On June 12 2014 21:18 HaruRH wrote:Heck, I'll even help you make a huge post on why we should all lynch Haru. Firstly, this haru guy don't even Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote: gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me? I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch. I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it. All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh. My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch. ##Vote:Chairman Ray contribute Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 05:43 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 05:40 Koshi wrote:On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote: gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me? I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch. I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it. All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh. My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch. ##Vote:Chairman Ray CR defended me from the get-go. The posts he made around me were also extremely thought out. If you are referring to him saying my post looked scummy than that is because he actually thought it looked scummy. But after that he gave reasons to why he thinks I am town. If I remember correctly from a previous game CR is capable to make big thought out post as scum, but he is more disconnected with the thread while doing so, he just pops in with huge ass posts. In this game he is having good thought out opinions in the moment. I wouldn't lynch him. Those other 2 names in your post, Rainbows and TicaTica, those are the people that are interesting. Meta argument is something I cannot push upon since I don't know much about anyone yet. So I'll just assume that koshi is correct about CR's play. I'll stay with this vote until someone more scummy pops out. At Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 18:05 HaruRH wrote:After diving SnB, I realised the pool is so shallow theres no need to bring a snorkel. So here's why SnB makes me wanna lynch the scum out of him: On June 11 2014 23:41 strongandbig wrote: Finished reading through page 48 on phone Have to go to work Some notes to calm thy tits, thread: Townish: - chromatically
Scummish: - palmar not trying on day 1 - koshi for pretty random townreads and listpost - rainbows bad reasoning for scum read on koshi. Tries to make something shitty up, indicates he's not comfortable just agreeing with good reasoning already posted - indicates selfconscious mafia.
Good args: - chromatically on why sinani is scum - mz on why round is scum - koshi on why tica is scum - (sort of good) round on why ketomi is scum On June 12 2014 04:55 strongandbig wrote: Blergh caught up with the thread and lunch is over [complain about spam, maybe if I do it more it's likely to work]
Anyway, I would kill koshi right now. Don't have anything new to add, I like chromatic ally's case
Also would still kill rainbows soo... He thinks koshi makes good arguments, then want to lynch koshi. On June 12 2014 04:17 strongandbig wrote:On June 11 2014 13:31 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 13:26 Chairman Ray wrote:On June 11 2014 13:23 batsnacks wrote: Chairman, without reading the above post, I really wish both your posts about me weren't perfectly sequential dissections of literally everything I said. Sorry, I'll try to keep it brief from now on. You can just read the "Overall" statement at the end Look I like everything you said I think it's great. I read the whole thing. You got an A+ on your homework for sure. I really, really, really hate that you commented on everything I said in the order I said it in both posts though. If you are mafia which I think you probably are, that's the only thing you should have changed to make it better. This is stupid. There's nothing wrong with an in-depth post by post analysis and the fact that newer players don't know this is just a sign of how spammy and annoying the meta has gotten . Then he shitposts. ALL. Then, this haru guy dont even defend himself Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 20:43 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 20:31 marvellosity wrote: by and large Haru was very earnest and straightforward in Detention (as well as kinda fun at the start), whereas i'm not really seeing any of that here. So you're meta-ing me based on 1 game? Lol thats the reason why I'm changing now, to avoid further meta reads. Not going to streamline my play into 1 category lol Thus I deduce this haru guy is scum 100%. ##Vote: HaruRH not sure if its really alignment indicative but it makes me not like him. What is weird about JAT? I am very interested. On page 81 right after the case on Marv happened JAT was argueing with you and felt like to me really buddying Marv. Since we now know KoTC was wolf the logic of JAT seeing a teammate going down to villageMarv and wanting to immediately help makes a lot of sense here. I need to read the rest of how the day evolved cause he did end up voting him but I would not be surprised by the interactions on that page if JAT turned out to be wolf. 1) I was suspicious of him BEFORE marvs case and also said this in the thread. 2) No, it does not make a lot of sense. It did not seem like marv was locked in on this lynch if I was mafia with KotC the logical thing would be to try and make marv go after someone else. Why would I give up KP without a fight. 3) I had a strong townread on marv at that point. Letting townmarv decide things has proven helpful in the past. I let him lead. Sue me. Its why I said it was "weird" and not "wolfy" Also as to point #2 just after the King case you made these posts: Targetting SnB Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 22:09 justanothertownie wrote:SnB: On June 11 2014 23:41 strongandbig wrote: Finished reading through page 48 on phone Have to go to work Some notes to calm thy tits, thread: Townish: - chromatically
Scummish: - palmar not trying on day 1 - koshi for pretty random townreads and listpost - rainbows bad reasoning for scum read on koshi. Tries to make something shitty up, indicates he's not comfortable just agreeing with good reasoning already posted - indicates selfconscious mafia.
Good args: - chromatically on why sinani is scum - mz on why round is scum - koshi on why tica is scum - (sort of good) round on why ketomi is scum I don't like this post. Palmar not trying is not scummy. SnB puts suspicion in Rainbows for the scumread on Koshi while he does the same (and his reasoning is not very detailed either). Says Koshi is scum but likes his reasoning for Tica being scum (I disagree). Has done nothing else except for complaining. We can definitely kill that guy. I see nothing towny here and if you compare his filter to YOSO you will see that he is much townier there. and then Ketomai Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 22:19 justanothertownie wrote:Ketomai: Weird start with the voting but not alignment indicative I think. On June 11 2014 12:18 ketomai wrote: Go for it if you want to waste your time and lynch. People who are hanging onto me are clearly just looking for another topic to create more chaos or just to prod me. It's pretty obvious to anyone objectively looking that I haven't even started the game yet. If the town is stupid enough to blind lynch me, then so be it. Have fun losing the rest of your game if you get manipulated into being distracted by random comments like mine. Scummy post. Unwarranted martyring. He then promises one content post and delivers this: + Show Spoiler +On June 12 2014 12:33 ketomai wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 11:29 ObiWanShinobi wrote: i noticed poofter's post on ketomai and i realized that ketomai still hasnt done anything and should still probably die. more votes on him pls. I'm here and I realize you're just pressuring me to respond, but reading 50 straight pages of mostly spam is honestly exhausting (and impossible for me after a long day at work). I gave up in the middle and just took a cursory glance through filters and whatnot for current top votes. I also took a look at a few other people that showed up near the beginning of the thread. I'll try to keep up with the thread from now on. Hopefully there's less spam in the future because missing 1 day so far seems to be catastrophic. Top votes: Koshi: Leaning slightly towards mafia. Biggest flag is his lack of cooperation with town as noted by others. He doesn't really argue, he just tries to pass off his viewpoints on the grounds that it should be obvious. I'm willing to wait on how he responds now that he's under pressure now and after he's promised to be more cooperative, however. He hasn't really contributed much other than defending himself. Also, I disagree with pretty much everything he says, but that doesn't really make him more or less mafia. Exo: Leaning slightly towards town. He doesn't spam up the thread and has only posted the few times he's confident in his opinion. However, his last post that also contained his vote jumped to a conclusion really fast without much evidence. The way he said it leaves room for change, like my own vote, so I'm also not too suspicious of that. It feels more like he honestly doesn't know who to vote for because there's so much spam/finger pointing as a newer player. Roundabout: No read. When he was attacking me earlier I thought he was doing that to everyone to create some chaos, but after looking through the filters he hasn't really done much past the early game. The point about him not contributing much is true, but not enough grounds to seem mafia yet; the game is early. The jump on me was a bit strange since I, personally, felt it was useless garbage spamming up the thread, but I'll ignore that. I would like to see him post more now that the "heat" is off of him. strongandbig: Seems a little bit like mafia. Would be the easy pick to vote but I'd love to see him defend himself first because like my suspicions for every one else after 1 day, I'm not sure. If anything, a lynch wouldn't be so bad just because he's not productive/working w/ the town. ritoky: Currently seems like mafia to me. He's on consistently throughout the day (his posts are very spread out), yet he doesn't really seem to contribute or address the game at all. He's just tunnel visioning Chromatically with nearly all his posts (who I personally have tagged as slightly town, so I naturally disagree with most of what he's saying). Chairman Ray: slightly town. So far everything he posts is pretty logical. I disagree a bit with his leaps on roundabout, but he's defended himself and arguments pretty well, so I like that. He brings up his own arguments to add to town discussion as well, which is usually good if they make sense. MZ: Other than furthering the VA lynchwagon (unless I missed some great post about it), not enough info, no read. Anyway I made a post because I promised it, but as you can see my knowledge of the thread is not very thorough yet. You should view these as my initial thoughts. I feel strongest about ritoky out of the people I checked so I'll vote on him for now to get him to speak out. I don't really know if I think this post on it's own is towny enough to let him survive day1. Since he already announced that this will be all we get from him today. I think it is quite weird how he adds reads on MZ and roundabout that say nothing while leaving most of the players out of this post. Why include them? Also a completely non-committal read on SnB. just after the marv case. Seems like soft pushes away from a possible marv train on a buddy.... although if either flips wolf then I'd disregard it. I'll check your filter on point 1 and point 3 makes sense for sure but its odd you brought up these two other guys right after. Again I'm throwing this in the 'weird' not 'wolfy' pile. However, you're definitely not getting village admittance. @JaT who do you think looks the worst after the lynch? Yes, or maybe I did this because marv asked me to? Ever thought of that?
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Marv, please give us a legacy before the end of the night. I could really see a doublestack here.
And obviously a vig should shoot unreadables like Kush and not people who do shit. It is not even a debate.
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On June 13 2014 19:07 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 19:06 marvellosity wrote:On June 13 2014 19:05 Holyflare wrote: point me to a town game where he plays like this x_x? do you make anything of KotC having him as his vote? maybe snb being a power role but otherwise not much Huh? Explain. Do you mean a scum powerrole or how does that make sense?
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On June 13 2014 19:10 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 19:09 justanothertownie wrote:On June 13 2014 19:07 Holyflare wrote:On June 13 2014 19:06 marvellosity wrote:On June 13 2014 19:05 Holyflare wrote: point me to a town game where he plays like this x_x? do you make anything of KotC having him as his vote? maybe snb being a power role but otherwise not much Huh? Explain. Do you mean a scum powerrole or how does that make sense? obviously So you are saying snb and kush are both scum together with the cat. I wish games were that easy.
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On June 13 2014 19:12 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 19:11 justanothertownie wrote:On June 13 2014 19:10 Holyflare wrote:On June 13 2014 19:09 justanothertownie wrote:On June 13 2014 19:07 Holyflare wrote:On June 13 2014 19:06 marvellosity wrote:On June 13 2014 19:05 Holyflare wrote: point me to a town game where he plays like this x_x? do you make anything of KotC having him as his vote? maybe snb being a power role but otherwise not much Huh? Explain. Do you mean a scum powerrole or how does that make sense? obviously So you are saying snb and kush are both scum together with the cat. I wish games were that easy. in a perfect world honestly haven't read much from snb though only remember his angry entrances I mean it is not unheard of that all 3 wagons are scum but I don't think that is very likely. Would mean the scumteam is totally incompetent.
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On June 13 2014 19:13 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 19:09 justanothertownie wrote: Marv, please give us a legacy before the end of the night. I could really see a doublestack here.
And obviously a vig should shoot unreadables like Kush and not people who do shit. It is not even a debate. I've grown too lazy in my old age to do legacies. Really medic should be on me and if we can make mafia use 2 of their already reduced KP to kill me, then it's like I've done my job twice. And if they don't use 2 KP on me they have a strong townie who's all but confirmed running around day 2. It's win win. At least give us your strongest opinions then. I guess you will anyways but don't forget it - this deadline (although it is great - europe controls the lynch) can easily be missed.
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On June 13 2014 19:16 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 19:14 justanothertownie wrote:On June 13 2014 19:12 Holyflare wrote:On June 13 2014 19:11 justanothertownie wrote:On June 13 2014 19:10 Holyflare wrote:On June 13 2014 19:09 justanothertownie wrote:On June 13 2014 19:07 Holyflare wrote:On June 13 2014 19:06 marvellosity wrote:On June 13 2014 19:05 Holyflare wrote: point me to a town game where he plays like this x_x? do you make anything of KotC having him as his vote? maybe snb being a power role but otherwise not much Huh? Explain. Do you mean a scum powerrole or how does that make sense? obviously So you are saying snb and kush are both scum together with the cat. I wish games were that easy. in a perfect world honestly haven't read much from snb though only remember his angry entrances I mean it is not unheard of that all 3 wagons are scum but I don't think that is very likely. Would mean the scumteam is totally incompetent. Ace (6) poofter (2) gumshoe (1) anyone else (0) sound familiar to you? :p Does not sound like day1 to me. I rather thought of Titanic as an example.
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On June 13 2014 19:16 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 19:14 justanothertownie wrote:On June 13 2014 19:12 Holyflare wrote:On June 13 2014 19:11 justanothertownie wrote:On June 13 2014 19:10 Holyflare wrote:On June 13 2014 19:09 justanothertownie wrote:On June 13 2014 19:07 Holyflare wrote:On June 13 2014 19:06 marvellosity wrote:On June 13 2014 19:05 Holyflare wrote: point me to a town game where he plays like this x_x? do you make anything of KotC having him as his vote? maybe snb being a power role but otherwise not much Huh? Explain. Do you mean a scum powerrole or how does that make sense? obviously So you are saying snb and kush are both scum together with the cat. I wish games were that easy. in a perfect world honestly haven't read much from snb though only remember his angry entrances I mean it is not unheard of that all 3 wagons are scum but I don't think that is very likely. Would mean the scumteam is totally incompetent. Cats, SnB and ? HF says they are scum with kush. Are you even reading?
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On June 13 2014 19:19 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 19:18 justanothertownie wrote:On June 13 2014 19:16 Koshi wrote:On June 13 2014 19:14 justanothertownie wrote:On June 13 2014 19:12 Holyflare wrote:On June 13 2014 19:11 justanothertownie wrote:On June 13 2014 19:10 Holyflare wrote:On June 13 2014 19:09 justanothertownie wrote:On June 13 2014 19:07 Holyflare wrote:On June 13 2014 19:06 marvellosity wrote: [quote] do you make anything of KotC having him as his vote? maybe snb being a power role but otherwise not much Huh? Explain. Do you mean a scum powerrole or how does that make sense? obviously So you are saying snb and kush are both scum together with the cat. I wish games were that easy. in a perfect world honestly haven't read much from snb though only remember his angry entrances I mean it is not unheard of that all 3 wagons are scum but I don't think that is very likely. Would mean the scumteam is totally incompetent. Cats, SnB and ? HF says they are scum with kush. Are you even reading? just theorising about cats vote tbh nothing concrete I know but it's still what you said.
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On June 13 2014 19:24 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 19:23 Koshi wrote:On June 13 2014 19:18 justanothertownie wrote:On June 13 2014 19:16 Koshi wrote:On June 13 2014 19:14 justanothertownie wrote:On June 13 2014 19:12 Holyflare wrote:On June 13 2014 19:11 justanothertownie wrote:On June 13 2014 19:10 Holyflare wrote:On June 13 2014 19:09 justanothertownie wrote:On June 13 2014 19:07 Holyflare wrote: [quote]
maybe snb being a power role but otherwise not much Huh? Explain. Do you mean a scum powerrole or how does that make sense? obviously So you are saying snb and kush are both scum together with the cat. I wish games were that easy. in a perfect world honestly haven't read much from snb though only remember his angry entrances I mean it is not unheard of that all 3 wagons are scum but I don't think that is very likely. Would mean the scumteam is totally incompetent. Cats, SnB and ? HF says they are scum with kush. Are you even reading? Says the guy that started this 3 wagon scum thing, while I don't see where HF says Kush is scum. Just that Cats didn't vote SnB because he is a powerrole. HF never said Kush is scum. I don't see where you get that from. someone clearly isn't reading the thread at all ~_~ Indeed.
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On June 13 2014 19:25 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 19:24 Holyflare wrote:On June 13 2014 19:23 Koshi wrote:On June 13 2014 19:18 justanothertownie wrote:On June 13 2014 19:16 Koshi wrote:On June 13 2014 19:14 justanothertownie wrote:On June 13 2014 19:12 Holyflare wrote:On June 13 2014 19:11 justanothertownie wrote:On June 13 2014 19:10 Holyflare wrote:On June 13 2014 19:09 justanothertownie wrote: [quote] Huh? Explain. Do you mean a scum powerrole or how does that make sense? obviously So you are saying snb and kush are both scum together with the cat. I wish games were that easy. in a perfect world honestly haven't read much from snb though only remember his angry entrances I mean it is not unheard of that all 3 wagons are scum but I don't think that is very likely. Would mean the scumteam is totally incompetent. Cats, SnB and ? HF says they are scum with kush. Are you even reading? Says the guy that started this 3 wagon scum thing, while I don't see where HF says Kush is scum. Just that Cats didn't vote SnB because he is a powerrole. HF never said Kush is scum. I don't see where you get that from. someone clearly isn't reading the thread at all ~_~ Where the fuck do you say Kush is scum? Dunno. All day and yesterday too maybe?
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On June 13 2014 19:35 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 19:32 marvellosity wrote: it's nothing to do with sheeping me
it's totally disappearing after being active when i made my case
it's not contributing anything to the thread while kotc wagon was taking place
it's lazy +1 of some random case later No. I watched the world cup (after sheeping chrom because I dont have time to read) with friends and slept after that for 12 hours. I have just finished catching up with the thread and will post my stuff later, when I'm on a computer. Of course, you can choose not to believe me. Hm, the game began exactly at lynch time.
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Isn't 20 % like exactly the probability to roll mafia in this game anyways? 30 % isn't very impressing then but go ahead.
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On June 13 2014 20:33 HaruRH wrote:It is really hard to post something pretty on phone T.T Just a clarification on how my scum% system works, everyone starts off at 0% scum and the number increases through scum posts. Firstly, I was observing how people jumped from roundabound -> koshi -> snb -> kotc. There were people who preferred to jump wagons at last minute, or stay on the wagon. These people were ignored since it is normal to do so. However, 1 person did something striking to me. Rainbows initially sheeped the koshi vote. His reason was this: + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 12:03 Rainbows wrote:As I was refreshing this thread on my phone while at work, a couple things I thought were interesting. First was Yamato's post here + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 09:27 yamato77 wrote:at p. 30, three posts I want to comment on Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote: He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote: the deepest one in the nest ##Vote: sinani206 This case is not good. Sinani is not mafia for how he's played so far, and marv agreeing with Chrom about this read is suspicious. Do not like the sinani = mafia read at all. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:26 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 06:24 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote: He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote: the deepest one in the nest ##Vote: sinani206 You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling. lol are you serious? This about sums up my thoughts on Robik. Not to be taken seriously. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:43 Chairman Ray wrote:First scumread for me: roundabound On June 11 2014 06:03 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:00 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 05:56 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 05:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On June 11 2014 05:49 yamato77 wrote: There's a nonzero chance that both bat and palmy are wolves another good point. god im so confused. this game is really hard. can everyone see what im saying? im saying that im really confused because this game is confusing. shit i hope nobody notices me omg. I wanna bait this post so badly and see who is the first to call out obiwan for this shitty shit shitterson of a post because it's so easy to hammer him on the lack of anything logical or tangible here. The post is too scummy to be written by scum You should have waited to see if anyone would bite you literally waited 5 minutes. Rolling mafia as a hydra must suck, especially since Robik doesn't wolf very well. ##Vote: Roundaboud I'm impatient Banksy. Plus, I don't know how to bait shit. You know how I play...I just spout whatever the hell comes to my head at the moment. Plus, I think that baiting is kinda silly in general. It's too tough to do properly, and unless people read the post the same way you do, you end up with a shitton of people just thinking that you're scum defending a scum buddy instead of reading you for making a good play. The self-aware weak player. If you are so knowledgeable that you spout what just comes to your head, why don't you just not do it this game instead of analyzing your own weaknesses? A town player will usually try to not exhibit weaknesses that they are completely aware of, and if they do make a mistake, they will try to justify it post-mistake. This feels like someone trying to create a buffer for their future posts so others will read less into scummy play. On June 11 2014 06:08 roundabound wrote: Banks, I don't like that you haven't cleared me yet. I'm the easiest read of all fucking time. I hear this a lot of mafia players when I play live mafia. One of the main benchmarks of skill in mafia is other players not being able to trust if you are town or mafia. It becomes really obvious whether or not a newer player is town or scum, but not the better players. This is another self-aware weak player card that I feel would rarely be played by a town player. On June 11 2014 06:10 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:07 Chromatically wrote:On June 11 2014 06:04 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 06:01 Holyflare wrote: Sign your posts bro, also wont be playing till Thursday, cya! This post is Howling like a boss. Why? Also roundabound it makes me sad that you only reply to poofter and not me . What do you think of the people pushing you? The only person pushing me is Banks. I've only seen him lurk as mafia on TL and I've seen him be active as town. If posting volume drops or if logic fails or if he doesn't clear me at some point, he might be mafia, otherwise, he's town. Again, he's putting the onus on others to clear him as town. He also prematurely dropped the read on banks that banks is active as town and not so much as mafia. This is something you keep in your mind and say AFTER bank shows that he's active or lurking. Saying this prematurely is an indication that round never had the intention to read into banks. That said, I don't like the case on him either, however I find this post to be a more reasonable and townie one than Chrom's post about sinani. tl;dr Chrom and Marv bad, sinani and robik not good lynches, Chairman townish. that I initially didn't find agreeable, because I was leaning town on Chrom (initial sinani pressure seemed good, overall posts seemed towny)Marv and Mocsta (roundabout) appeared to instantly pick up on the same thing I was feeling here: + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 09:29 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 09:27 yamato77 wrote:at p. 30, three posts I want to comment on On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote: He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote: the deepest one in the nest ##Vote: sinani206 This case is not good. Sinani is not mafia for how he's played so far, and marv agreeing with Chrom about this read is suspicious. Do not like the sinani = mafia read at all. On June 11 2014 06:26 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 06:24 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote: He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote: the deepest one in the nest ##Vote: sinani206 You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling. lol are you serious? This about sums up my thoughts on Robik. Not to be taken seriously. On June 11 2014 06:43 Chairman Ray wrote:First scumread for me: roundabound On June 11 2014 06:03 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:00 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 05:56 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 05:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On June 11 2014 05:49 yamato77 wrote: There's a nonzero chance that both bat and palmy are wolves another good point. god im so confused. this game is really hard. can everyone see what im saying? im saying that im really confused because this game is confusing. shit i hope nobody notices me omg. I wanna bait this post so badly and see who is the first to call out obiwan for this shitty shit shitterson of a post because it's so easy to hammer him on the lack of anything logical or tangible here. The post is too scummy to be written by scum You should have waited to see if anyone would bite you literally waited 5 minutes. Rolling mafia as a hydra must suck, especially since Robik doesn't wolf very well. ##Vote: Roundaboud I'm impatient Banksy. Plus, I don't know how to bait shit. You know how I play...I just spout whatever the hell comes to my head at the moment. Plus, I think that baiting is kinda silly in general. It's too tough to do properly, and unless people read the post the same way you do, you end up with a shitton of people just thinking that you're scum defending a scum buddy instead of reading you for making a good play. The self-aware weak player. If you are so knowledgeable that you spout what just comes to your head, why don't you just not do it this game instead of analyzing your own weaknesses? A town player will usually try to not exhibit weaknesses that they are completely aware of, and if they do make a mistake, they will try to justify it post-mistake. This feels like someone trying to create a buffer for their future posts so others will read less into scummy play. On June 11 2014 06:08 roundabound wrote: Banks, I don't like that you haven't cleared me yet. I'm the easiest read of all fucking time. I hear this a lot of mafia players when I play live mafia. One of the main benchmarks of skill in mafia is other players not being able to trust if you are town or mafia. It becomes really obvious whether or not a newer player is town or scum, but not the better players. This is another self-aware weak player card that I feel would rarely be played by a town player. On June 11 2014 06:10 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:07 Chromatically wrote:On June 11 2014 06:04 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 06:01 Holyflare wrote: Sign your posts bro, also wont be playing till Thursday, cya! This post is Howling like a boss. Why? Also roundabound it makes me sad that you only reply to poofter and not me . What do you think of the people pushing you? The only person pushing me is Banks. I've only seen him lurk as mafia on TL and I've seen him be active as town. If posting volume drops or if logic fails or if he doesn't clear me at some point, he might be mafia, otherwise, he's town. Again, he's putting the onus on others to clear him as town. He also prematurely dropped the read on banks that banks is active as town and not so much as mafia. This is something you keep in your mind and say AFTER bank shows that he's active or lurking. Saying this prematurely is an indication that round never had the intention to read into banks. That said, I don't like the case on him either, however I find this post to be a more reasonable and townie one than Chrom's post about sinani. tl;dr Chrom and Marv bad, sinani and robik not good lynches, Chairman townish. you're bad because you fail at basic reading comprehension. go you. and here: + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 09:30 roundabound wrote: Yamato has to be scum; or a completely changed man
~moc . These responses by moc and marv make me feel better about them, because they were thinking what I was thinking as I read Yamato's post. Regardless of Yams alignment, I think marv and moc are towny because they were on the same wavelength as I. Similar reads on a post like this is a good indicator of who is playing for what team. I also noticed Koshi's post here: + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 08:03 Koshi wrote:Town, or not lynchable till D3 for myself:ObiWanShinobi: Looks fine for now. Till I found everybody town he is town. + fast vote (not quoted). + optimism about fast vote (not quoted). + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 05:50 ObiWanShinobi wrote: batsnacks is the confirmed town hero for finding palmar so early.
im just gonna sheep him forever. On June 11 2014 05:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 05:49 yamato77 wrote: There's a nonzero chance that both bat and palmy are wolves another good point. god im so confused. this game is really hard. can everyone see what im saying? im saying that im really confused because this game is confusing. shit i hope nobody notices me omg. On June 11 2014 05:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 05:50 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 05:48 Chromatically wrote: first two people posting claim scum = scum always post first
therefore the first six people to post are scum
gg Try English. And Logic. But, like, seriously, like, what does this, like, even, like, mean?.....Like roundabout, posting from what appears to be one of the moons of jupiter. very interesting. hows the weather up there? On June 11 2014 05:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 05:53 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 05:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote: fuck i got town again. Gonna have to CC you hear I also rolled town. hi im poofter and i cannot english someone help Chairman Ray: Not an awkward entrance. I am cool with CR. Also a case that looks coming from town . + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 05:52 Chairman Ray wrote: Not everyone who townclaimed is town. I see them posting in my mafia QT. Stop lying guys. On June 11 2014 06:43 Chairman Ray wrote:First scumread for me: roundabound Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:03 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:00 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 05:56 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 05:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On June 11 2014 05:49 yamato77 wrote: There's a nonzero chance that both bat and palmy are wolves another good point. god im so confused. this game is really hard. can everyone see what im saying? im saying that im really confused because this game is confusing. shit i hope nobody notices me omg. I wanna bait this post so badly and see who is the first to call out obiwan for this shitty shit shitterson of a post because it's so easy to hammer him on the lack of anything logical or tangible here. The post is too scummy to be written by scum You should have waited to see if anyone would bite you literally waited 5 minutes. Rolling mafia as a hydra must suck, especially since Robik doesn't wolf very well. ##Vote: Roundaboud I'm impatient Banksy. Plus, I don't know how to bait shit. You know how I play...I just spout whatever the hell comes to my head at the moment. Plus, I think that baiting is kinda silly in general. It's too tough to do properly, and unless people read the post the same way you do, you end up with a shitton of people just thinking that you're scum defending a scum buddy instead of reading you for making a good play. The self-aware weak player. If you are so knowledgeable that you spout what just comes to your head, why don't you just not do it this game instead of analyzing your own weaknesses? A town player will usually try to not exhibit weaknesses that they are completely aware of, and if they do make a mistake, they will try to justify it post-mistake. This feels like someone trying to create a buffer for their future posts so others will read less into scummy play. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:08 roundabound wrote: Banks, I don't like that you haven't cleared me yet. I'm the easiest read of all fucking time. I hear this a lot of mafia players when I play live mafia. One of the main benchmarks of skill in mafia is other players not being able to trust if you are town or mafia. It becomes really obvious whether or not a newer player is town or scum, but not the better players. This is another self-aware weak player card that I feel would rarely be played by a town player. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:10 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:07 Chromatically wrote:On June 11 2014 06:04 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 06:01 Holyflare wrote: Sign your posts bro, also wont be playing till Thursday, cya! This post is Howling like a boss. Why? Also roundabound it makes me sad that you only reply to poofter and not me . What do you think of the people pushing you? The only person pushing me is Banks. I've only seen him lurk as mafia on TL and I've seen him be active as town. If posting volume drops or if logic fails or if he doesn't clear me at some point, he might be mafia, otherwise, he's town. Again, he's putting the onus on others to clear him as town. He also prematurely dropped the read on banks that banks is active as town and not so much as mafia. This is something you keep in your mind and say AFTER bank shows that he's active or lurking. Saying this prematurely is an indication that round never had the intention to read into banks. TehPoofter: Town for being around joyfully. This post is unlikely comming from scumPoofter. First it is totally random, secondly he promises to spam: + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 06:03 Tehpoofter wrote:Speaking of Wolves and Villages. This Game Recently got to 28000 Posts over on 2p2 we can easily beat that number. We just need to channel are inner spamming, Think Holyflare/Steveling but with ADHD and no sleep schedule. Thats my goal this game. roundabound: Not on the lynchtable because is progressing the game. Could be more friendly while doing so though. I do not agree with some of the points he makes and I saw him completely missinterpret a post. But I do'n't think he is scum purposely shitting up the thread so he is town for now. + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 06:10 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:07 Chromatically wrote:On June 11 2014 06:04 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 06:01 Holyflare wrote: Sign your posts bro, also wont be playing till Thursday, cya! This post is Howling like a boss. Why? Also roundabound it makes me sad that you only reply to poofter and not me . What do you think of the people pushing you? The only person pushing me is Banks. I've only seen him lurk as mafia on TL and I've seen him be active as town. If posting volume drops or if logic fails or if he doesn't clear me at some point, he might be mafia, otherwise, he's town. On June 11 2014 05:53 roundabound wrote:This is a really weird reaction from Palmar. If he claims to want to be mafia and rolls town, I think the reaction would be "fuck, I rolled town this sucks", not "fuck I got my role". Obviously he can't just say "SWEET, I GOT MAFIA," but I feel like he'd express more disappointment about rolling town after the first post. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 05:41 Palmar wrote:On June 11 2014 05:30 batsnacks wrote: I didn't get my role yet. Scumclaim. I know I'm mafia because I requested it and I also know I haven't received my role, so I can only assume that mafia gets roles sent last. Nailed you, bitch. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 05:45 Palmar wrote: Fuck I got my role. I don't even know what it does. brb. On June 11 2014 06:24 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote: He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote: the deepest one in the nest ##Vote: sinani206 You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling. On June 11 2014 06:27 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:24 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote: He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote: the deepest one in the nest ##Vote: sinani206 You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling. Sinani asked batsnacks what batsnacks has done all game. He wasn't able to answer the question and he disappeared. Batsnacks says that he's voting me because he hates hydras. He then goes on to soft push on me by saying shit like "this post isn't about this game so it doesn't mean anything" trying to justify his stupid vote awkward corner aka might lynch will watch: Chromatically: I don't like how he entered the thread. I don't like how he pushing sinani so hard. I don't like it because I don't see it. I can see the point he makes about entering the game with a pointless question trying to blend in. But I don't like how Chrom is blowing these questions up trying to twist it into mafia mindset. Did sinani enter the thread with a question? yes. Did it show mafia mindset. No. The question he asked JAT wasn't what Chrom is making it out to be. It was a pretty legit question. Somebody votes for Robik --> Robik replies --> Somebody says Robik is overdefensive --> sinani doesn't agree that Robik was overdefensive. I have now read Sinani his filter three times. I am puzzled by his filter. I do not see how Chrom can have such a strong scumread on Sinani that he is asking everybody to sheep him. tldr: Awkward entrance + Too strong scumread. + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 05:48 Chromatically wrote: first two people posting claim scum = scum always post first
therefore the first six people to post are scum
gg On June 11 2014 05:50 Chromatically wrote: Oh yeah I'm also town, in case anyone was wondering.
Now we just need the rest of the game to claim and we should be good. On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote: He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. ##Vote: sinani206 TicaTica: Entrance to the thread with a soft defense, a one-liner that looks extremely hard like an attempt to get towncred from those who he defends. the intention behind the entire post screams: Hi guys, I am town because I am helping. The buddying with marv makes me uncomfortable. Rest of filter is filler. + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 06:49 TicaTica wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote: He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote: the deepest one in the nest ##Vote: sinani206 Nisani und sinani be known lurkers irregardless of randed roll. On June 11 2014 06:54 TicaTica wrote: Marvelocity potential is villagery. Would be benefit if hydra heads were both to talk. Plammer is inherent wolfy. On June 11 2014 07:06 TicaTica wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 07:04 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 07:01 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 07:00 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 06:57 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 06:56 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 06:55 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 06:50 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:46 Chromatically wrote: Sinani what do you think of JAT? Mostly one-liners and wishy washy, I don't really have time right now to quote because I have a meeting at 2:50 but if he keeps this kind of useless posting up I can see a chance of him being red. In this post sinani basically gives a null read on me. His reasoning can be used for almost 100 % of the players in this game. I think he added the part with the "chance of being red" to create the illusion that his question towards me had something to do with scumhunting -> tries to get Chrom off his ass. and therefore your conclusion? I think it's kinda scummy. I tend to agree, "if he keeps this up i can see a chance of him being red" is like so many layers of qualifiers :p on the other hand i'm pretty taken aback that sinani is posting volumously at all. that's a turn up for the books. Well, is it alignment indicative though? I never played with him afaik. well i'd expect a mafia-sinani not to bother. that's like a teensy lean though. Am surprised your not pushing this thought more. -villagry points to mar velocity. ##vote: TicaTica , which I found underwhelming when concerning a bunch of null readers and disagreeable. We differ on Chrom reads apparently, but it looks like Koshi is soft-defending Sinani here. "Did sinani enter the thread with a question? yes. Did it show mafia mindset. No." Seems like a pretty bold statement for a supposed towny to make and be so assured of. He also voted tictac which is OK, but why not Chrom? spent more time discussing chrom than tic which I found to be odd. So yeah, I like chrom for early pressure and general posting, moc / marv seem to be on the same page as I am. Yamato seems a bit off, leaning maff. Koshi evul. Randoms reads. Bill Murray seems like a douche, but not mafia douche atm. Leaning somewhat townie douche. I'm OK with a douche as long as he doesn't bleed red. Chairman seems pretty well-structured to me, post on round appeals to a lot of logical assumptions. His koshi post goes from "his post seems scummy" to "he seems town", so i'm not sure what he's trying to do there. A pretty normal reason to vote on koshi. However, his switch from koshi to snb was suspect. He jumped off the koshi wagon quite quickly after some people jumped off the wagon and leeched obto the snb wagon when it was just starting, and it seemed to be a potential wagon. This was his crappy reason. + Show Spoiler + On June 12 2014 08:53 Rainbows wrote: StrongandBig's posts thus far have been atrocious. Some summary, calls people stupid, and gives a very badly formed read on myself based on a bunch of unexplained "indications" that mean nothing.
I indicate SnB is mafia. Lynch with fire.
##Unvote: Koshi ##Vote: StrongandBig This is obviously just a sheep post. At this point, he probably just wanted to sheep and gain easy towncreds if his sheep worked - but people jumped off snb into kotc vote. What I theorize is, if rainbows was unable to jump to kotc for 2 reasons: 1) he was scum and is unabls to vote for his scummate. 2) any more jumps and he will look suspicious. These few suspect jumps and the kotc flip have led me to give rainbows a 30% scum rating. Post me qns about anyone who you want me to show my ratings and explanation. Changing your vote often isn't really a scummy thing to do. Why would Rainbows expect towncred for sheeping the snb wagon? I mean you are indicating that snb would have been town here.
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On June 13 2014 20:55 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 20:48 marvellosity wrote:On June 13 2014 20:47 HaruRH wrote:On June 13 2014 20:46 Holyflare wrote:I read scum based on votes. Not a surprise, but I'll read how the votes move and deduce the main scum suspect.
Just a clarification on how my scum% system works, everyone starts off at 0% scum and the number increases through scum posts. So which is it? If you base people off scummy posts kush must be at like 100% Posts and votes* I like votes more. Sometimes I tunnel. how would you analyse your own votes and reasons How would I analyse my own votes and reasons? Am I supposed to say I am scum? Would you?
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On June 13 2014 23:08 Chromatically wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 19:22 marvellosity wrote: So I made my case at 13:22 my time yesterday. Haru had been posting kinda regularly up until that point (7 times in the hour before my case), and then completely stopped posting when I made my case.
He then made 1 lazy +1 vote to Chrome's ritoky case 6 hours later, no reference to anything else.
me-no-likey. I completely agree with this. I think that the people who look worst from the Cats flip are those who ignored the case on him entirely. Scum wouldn't want to sheep a scum lynch that is already set because they think that it would look bad (ie look like a bus). Scum also wouldn't want to push some other target because the chances of them actually diverting the lynch at that point were near 0, and it would just draw attention to them after the flip. Basically, they have no options for giving a read on Cats. If they say Cats is scum, then they have no excuse not to sheep onto Cats. If they say Cats is town, then they draw attention to themselves for defending the scum lynch (and they had really no good reasons to call him town). So they would totally ignore the case. I could imagine that this won't be true for all of them but it really makes a lot of sense.
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On June 13 2014 23:17 mattisfoolish wrote: Players that we should be looking at closely for the next lynch
MZ Sandroba Ketomai ObiWanShinobi I assume this is still Foolishness posting?
TL is really annoying today.
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On June 14 2014 00:09 mattisfoolish wrote:no its matt Well, I am somehow afraid this attempt to get you to speak will be futile but it would be really appreciated if you would give us at least some thoughts behind those reads or even in general.
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On June 14 2014 01:27 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2014 01:24 marvellosity wrote:On June 14 2014 01:23 VayneAuthority wrote:On June 14 2014 01:23 marvellosity wrote: you don't think he follows the stuff he said himself? I thought he was joking tbh if making the vig a shitty player is his real balance strategy then xD the point is that if mafia having enough KP is a worry, he would be unlikely to give town a lot of KP (2 2-shot vig) so yes, i think a town-vigi would be very suspicious of MZ right now which makes me think that mz wouldn't randomly claim. possibly. it doesnt make sense from either alignment so I wasn't really concerned with that point. unless we are in resolution and im not aware of it... (we aren't) Hm, I like it. If MZ is town and gets shot because he is vig that is great because atm he would be a mislynch in the making. Although maybe not now that he claimed. It would also please me greatly to see that koshi was wrong on pretty much everything again this game.
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On June 14 2014 01:34 marvellosity wrote:is that before or after you shoot kush? :p Probably when he is done with saving you.
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On June 14 2014 02:01 marvellosity wrote: yamato is also removed from the townlist. His early posting was pretty ok but he's not contributing. Plus he said he was happy with me leading a lynch, but had his vote parked pretty uselessly and never changed it. I still don't like his early read on Koshi. Since we are already talking about TMI this could be a legit case.
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On June 14 2014 02:39 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2014 02:20 justanothertownie wrote:On June 14 2014 02:01 marvellosity wrote: yamato is also removed from the townlist. His early posting was pretty ok but he's not contributing. Plus he said he was happy with me leading a lynch, but had his vote parked pretty uselessly and never changed it. I still don't like his early read on Koshi. Since we are already talking about TMI this could be a legit case. why were you strongly townreading me on d1 when normally you're super wary of me? I wasn't strongly townreading you for the whole day. Started roughly when you were interrogating ritoky. And why would I not? I agreed with pretty much everything you did/said.
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Especially when you started taking control and pushing in the right direction (in my opinion) for the lynch there was no reason to not townread you.
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On June 14 2014 05:37 marvellosity wrote: omg holland are fucking DESTROYING spain Yes, it is quite hilarious.
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On June 14 2014 05:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2014 05:37 marvellosity wrote: omg holland are fucking DESTROYING spain ... forget i said anything. i dont even care. god i hate making cases. Why are you so angry? Yeah, I read your case and to be honest Koshis reads are pretty horrible for the most part but that sadly does not make him scum necessarily.
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On June 14 2014 16:21 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2014 16:14 gumshoe wrote: Helop, surprisingly I have a pretty good excuse for my ludicrously long absence buuuuut people hate excuses so I'll just get back into it, I've reconsidered chair man, I liked his explanation/defence. It makes more sense that he was just trying to figure stuff out as opposed to try and start a fire. As a result I'm fine with lynching haru purely because he jumped on the case I made right away despite having only made a single comment against cr in passing a while back. On another note, noes around the time I expect Exo to solve the game given how much he's hyped his quality over quantity reads so looking forward to that. Go ahead, but make sure rainbows is lynched next after me if it occurs. I will feel so good to actually deduce out a mafia after 2 games :D Looks like I need to sacrifice for town at the scale of Palmar :D It's ok though, Palmar had already left me a great impression after detention mafia and I really liked how he sacrificed himself here this game too, with mafiabait. ILL GLADLY BE MAFIABAIT TOO, LYNCH ALL THOSE WHO FOLLOW RAINBOWS That is certainly not what Palmar would do. Your first duty as a townie is not get mislynched.
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I am not impressed by the case on chrom the only relevant part is this:
On June 14 2014 18:08 ExO_ wrote: That's just about all he had to say about cats, sorta in what I would call a "yeah yeah, but!" fashion. He doesn't want to say the case against cats is bad, but he doesn't want to encourage it either, and I think this post is a great way to try to push another case while acknowledging the cats case as little as possible.
and I don't think this is enough for me to want to lynch him.
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On June 14 2014 19:52 ritoky wrote: Koshi - i actually like koshi a lot less now than i did yesterday simply for 1 comment he made: "thread sentiment". now i get when you tunnel on someone who you think is mafia really hard and everyone else who you read as town sees thinks the guy you're tunneling on is town; and doubts can start to creep into your tunnel. but (at least for me) that happens down the line a bit a couple or more days, and usually accompanied with said explanation. but he just backed out of the read on chrom and some of his other ones a bit too fast. i don't know if i would call him scum by any means, but his stock be falling for me. idk, flipping a read for "thread sentiment" doesn't seem very town mindsetty...just seems like caring about appearance.
and i don't remember who asked the question that prompted that response, but they just seemed okay with it afterwards, like it wasn't an odd response. idk about that.
Backing out of a read because other people you trust are disagreeing with you is not scummy. Admitting to do so because of thread sentiment neither. Would you do that as scum? Or wouldn't you rather try to fabricate a better reason?
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On June 14 2014 07:08 Rainbows wrote: So I haven't read really anything that happened during the night. Only guy I'm surprised didn't die is Marv, but I'll assume that mafia are medic dodging.
Haru is Mafia for the following reasons:
- Blatant insecurity about his image, using sarcasm in order to deflect pressure off of himself. Calling his votes placeholders do he does not have to commit.
- Ignoring the KotC case completely. Town would probably weigh in, but scum are afraid to be wishy-washy about the issue concerning their scum partner. Scum do not want to vote their guy, OR appear to not want to vote him. Avoidance is the best way to do this.
- Keeping multiple avenues open during D1 for lynches. Town do this, so do I, I didn't care if we lynched like 10 different people. But Haru posts very thin or nonsensical reasons for his 'suspects' (CR gaining towncred later with koshi pressure lolwut). Town would just be like "ok ill lynch this guy because lurk / because shitpost / because giant douche". The way Haru tries to rationalize the CR vote makes little sense to me. ALL of his votes have been either "not serious" (Koshi, himself) or really bad reasoning (CR), or epic sheepmode on Ritosky.
- OMGUS Voting myself, an easy town mislynch, by going hard after the wishy-washy post I made about KotC OMGUS. I don't know about the bolded. I feel crux of this case is argument 2 (underlined) which has already been said before. And I don't think I agree with argument 1 - have my doubts about sarcasm being an indication for insecurity here.
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I think we should force people like MIF and sandro to finally do something today. Especially sandro.
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On June 14 2014 22:36 Holyflare wrote: Rainbows and haru look at other people and talk about them. This.
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Haru is OMGUSing like a mofo and it isn't helpful. I want to hear reasons besides "those guys think I am scum and therefore are scum".
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Anyone fancy a sandroba wagon?
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On June 14 2014 23:05 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2014 23:04 justanothertownie wrote: Anyone fancy a sandroba wagon? We could. To wake him up when he is back. Let's do it. Although I also don't like the ritoky post a few pages back. Also OMGUS and next to zero real reads/information given besides that.
##Vote: sandroba
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On June 14 2014 23:12 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2014 22:16 Rainbows wrote: Also that "ill sac myself then lynch rainbows" is scummy to hell. if he is town he doesnt know im my alignment, and no town would put all eggs in basket at the risk of two mislynches. Getting yourself lynched is stupid to prove something in this situation. townies say this sort of shit way more often than mafia do btw i'm skimming and i don't even know who you're referring to. He is referring to Haru like he does in almost all of his posts.
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On June 14 2014 23:16 marvellosity wrote: btw my activity is/will continue to be really sketchy this weekend, right until about deadline sadly. Most of my posting will be phone posting, and i hate phone posting so it'll be brief.
this is not phone posting and is about three times the length of post you might expect when i do No pressure. You will only have to decide who we lynch. ^_^
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On June 14 2014 23:19 Koshi wrote: I am also ok with ritoky. I am very forgiving today. Such a benevolent ruler.
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On June 14 2014 23:46 marvellosity wrote: Palmar was a little more townie on sandroba and more scummy on mif, maybe we should wagon them instead.
hmm. Works for me. ##Vote: mattisfoolish
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On June 15 2014 01:00 mattisfoolish wrote: No please.
##Vote: gumshoe
Not opposed to sandroba or ketomai either. Also fairly confident that Haru and Rainbows are two townies going ham in the tunnel.
~Foolishness Not very amazed by your case. Also there is more than 1 mafia - go find them!
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On June 15 2014 13:47 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2014 12:46 Chromatically wrote:On June 15 2014 06:55 Rainbows wrote:Hey guys, I'm back. I was about to go examine some other people to hopefully get the tunnel vision off, but then I saw Haru posted this reply: On June 15 2014 04:18 HaruRH wrote: LCS or World Cup... the decision is very real....
So I just want to wait to see if rainbows is willing to let go, if he is ,I will do so too. SCUM! Haru only wants to let go if I don't threaten to lynch him. This is NOT TOWNIE. Haru is too concerned with self-preservation. He is attempting to bargain with me so that he can live. "As long as you don't call me scum and try to lynch me, I'll do the same". His scumread on me is not predicated on thinking I'm mafia -- if it were, he would not care if I am simultaneously pressuring him. If he wanted to let go, he would just let go. He is mafia that doesn't want to be in the spotlight anymore. SHINE SHINE MUTHAFUCKA I am not your buddy Haru. You may be sexy and attractive but you are not my friend, pal. SCUM. DIE. EVERYBODY VOTE HARU. HE IS MAFIA. +1 to this btw, I misread Haru's post the first time as "I want to see if rainbows is willing to go", like they were going to have a big showdown or something. Backing off, but only if Rainbows does, makes it seem like his case was only meant to deter Rainbows from attacking him. It's especially weird after he's made a big show of how convinced he is on Rainbows. OMG +1+1+1
On June 15 2014 21:26 HaruRH wrote: I thought your arguments were very one-dimensional. Looks like even your thinking is one-dimensional.
'OMGWTFBBQ GAIS HALU IS SKUM LEENCH HIM' '...' '...' 'yea he might be scum' 'maybe, I agree' 'yea'
And nothing. Rainbows, let me throw more scum remarks your way so that you have more material to work with. Or else I don't feel the excitement of trying to fight back a lynch on me.
Alright let me go back to my scum qt and ask them what to do next If you don't stop this shit right now we might aswell lynch you. Just sayin.
On June 15 2014 16:15 Holyflare wrote: You can criticise it all you want but the fact of the matter is all of those people have actually posted stuff that resembles trying to contribute. If you have good reasons for them to be town then post them. Don't just say "oh lurkers lol"
There was an uncontested lynch on mafia and the only other wagon was kush or snb. If snb is mafia then the lynxh went interely town ddominated the entire day 1 which means that mafia ARE lurkers. If snb is town then mafia still didn't push him hard enough over cats and then mafia would STILL be lurkers. Like poofter said - there was someone actively and fiercly pushing a different lynch at the end of the day. Not saying you are scum but hey, it is not that obvious to people who aren't you if the scumteam consists of lurkers.
On June 15 2014 19:28 Chairman Ray wrote: My mafia hype has been completely overtaken by world cup hype.
Gonna drop a quick vote before I head to bed on someone who's more afk than I am
##Vote: Erandorr
Just wtf...
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On June 15 2014 14:44 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2014 03:45 Chromatically wrote:On June 14 2014 18:08 ExO_ wrote:I've taken the time to go back over the end of the day 1 voting, looking for things that might stick out. I think Alakaslam still might be mafia, but I'm not as convinced as I first was when I was reading on my phone. He might just be a spammy bastard. But I think Chromatically is mafia. At June 12 2014 13:31 Chrom votes ritoky. At this point the train on KotC is in full swing, and he's up to 9 votes. It's looking like he's going to be lynched. 2 Hours prior however, the vote count was only at 4 for KotC. So a lot of votes moved all at once. 1 hour later at June 12 2014 14:31 Chrom hops on the train. What's interesting is Chrom's posts in this one hour block. Before I get to the hour block, lets take a look at some of Chrom's earlier posts. His first vote on Sinani is preceded by this: On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote: He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote: the deepest one in the nest ##Vote: sinani206 It almost seems like a sarcastic joke to me at first, to vote Sinani for such an arbitrary reason. Going from page 1-2 of his filter though, he continues to push Sinani pretty hard. Koshi notices this, and calls him Chrom out on it. Chrom clams up after this, asking Yamato for a read on himself. To me this seems like a concerned mafia. The real gold comes after that though: On June 11 2014 10:19 Chromatically wrote:On June 11 2014 10:11 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 10:03 Chromatically wrote:On June 11 2014 08:03 Koshi wrote:Town, or not lynchable till D3 for myself:ObiWanShinobi: Looks fine for now. Till I found everybody town he is town. + fast vote (not quoted). + optimism about fast vote (not quoted). + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 05:50 ObiWanShinobi wrote: batsnacks is the confirmed town hero for finding palmar so early.
im just gonna sheep him forever. On June 11 2014 05:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 05:49 yamato77 wrote: There's a nonzero chance that both bat and palmy are wolves another good point. god im so confused. this game is really hard. can everyone see what im saying? im saying that im really confused because this game is confusing. shit i hope nobody notices me omg. On June 11 2014 05:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 05:50 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 05:48 Chromatically wrote: first two people posting claim scum = scum always post first
therefore the first six people to post are scum
gg Try English. And Logic. But, like, seriously, like, what does this, like, even, like, mean?.....Like roundabout, posting from what appears to be one of the moons of jupiter. very interesting. hows the weather up there? On June 11 2014 05:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 05:53 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 05:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote: fuck i got town again. Gonna have to CC you hear I also rolled town. hi im poofter and i cannot english someone help Chairman Ray: Not an awkward entrance. I am cool with CR. Also a case that looks coming from town . + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 05:52 Chairman Ray wrote: Not everyone who townclaimed is town. I see them posting in my mafia QT. Stop lying guys. On June 11 2014 06:43 Chairman Ray wrote:First scumread for me: roundabound Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:03 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:00 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 05:56 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 05:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On June 11 2014 05:49 yamato77 wrote: There's a nonzero chance that both bat and palmy are wolves another good point. god im so confused. this game is really hard. can everyone see what im saying? im saying that im really confused because this game is confusing. shit i hope nobody notices me omg. I wanna bait this post so badly and see who is the first to call out obiwan for this shitty shit shitterson of a post because it's so easy to hammer him on the lack of anything logical or tangible here. The post is too scummy to be written by scum You should have waited to see if anyone would bite you literally waited 5 minutes. Rolling mafia as a hydra must suck, especially since Robik doesn't wolf very well. ##Vote: Roundaboud I'm impatient Banksy. Plus, I don't know how to bait shit. You know how I play...I just spout whatever the hell comes to my head at the moment. Plus, I think that baiting is kinda silly in general. It's too tough to do properly, and unless people read the post the same way you do, you end up with a shitton of people just thinking that you're scum defending a scum buddy instead of reading you for making a good play. The self-aware weak player. If you are so knowledgeable that you spout what just comes to your head, why don't you just not do it this game instead of analyzing your own weaknesses? A town player will usually try to not exhibit weaknesses that they are completely aware of, and if they do make a mistake, they will try to justify it post-mistake. This feels like someone trying to create a buffer for their future posts so others will read less into scummy play. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:08 roundabound wrote: Banks, I don't like that you haven't cleared me yet. I'm the easiest read of all fucking time. I hear this a lot of mafia players when I play live mafia. One of the main benchmarks of skill in mafia is other players not being able to trust if you are town or mafia. It becomes really obvious whether or not a newer player is town or scum, but not the better players. This is another self-aware weak player card that I feel would rarely be played by a town player. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:10 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:07 Chromatically wrote:On June 11 2014 06:04 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 06:01 Holyflare wrote: Sign your posts bro, also wont be playing till Thursday, cya! This post is Howling like a boss. Why? Also roundabound it makes me sad that you only reply to poofter and not me . What do you think of the people pushing you? The only person pushing me is Banks. I've only seen him lurk as mafia on TL and I've seen him be active as town. If posting volume drops or if logic fails or if he doesn't clear me at some point, he might be mafia, otherwise, he's town. Again, he's putting the onus on others to clear him as town. He also prematurely dropped the read on banks that banks is active as town and not so much as mafia. This is something you keep in your mind and say AFTER bank shows that he's active or lurking. Saying this prematurely is an indication that round never had the intention to read into banks. TehPoofter: Town for being around joyfully. This post is unlikely comming from scumPoofter. First it is totally random, secondly he promises to spam: + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 06:03 Tehpoofter wrote:Speaking of Wolves and Villages. This Game Recently got to 28000 Posts over on 2p2 we can easily beat that number. We just need to channel are inner spamming, Think Holyflare/Steveling but with ADHD and no sleep schedule. Thats my goal this game. roundabound: Not on the lynchtable because is progressing the game. Could be more friendly while doing so though. I do not agree with some of the points he makes and I saw him completely missinterpret a post. But I do'n't think he is scum purposely shitting up the thread so he is town for now. + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 06:10 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:07 Chromatically wrote:On June 11 2014 06:04 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 06:01 Holyflare wrote: Sign your posts bro, also wont be playing till Thursday, cya! This post is Howling like a boss. Why? Also roundabound it makes me sad that you only reply to poofter and not me . What do you think of the people pushing you? The only person pushing me is Banks. I've only seen him lurk as mafia on TL and I've seen him be active as town. If posting volume drops or if logic fails or if he doesn't clear me at some point, he might be mafia, otherwise, he's town. On June 11 2014 05:53 roundabound wrote:This is a really weird reaction from Palmar. If he claims to want to be mafia and rolls town, I think the reaction would be "fuck, I rolled town this sucks", not "fuck I got my role". Obviously he can't just say "SWEET, I GOT MAFIA," but I feel like he'd express more disappointment about rolling town after the first post. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 05:41 Palmar wrote:On June 11 2014 05:30 batsnacks wrote: I didn't get my role yet. Scumclaim. I know I'm mafia because I requested it and I also know I haven't received my role, so I can only assume that mafia gets roles sent last. Nailed you, bitch. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 05:45 Palmar wrote: Fuck I got my role. I don't even know what it does. brb. On June 11 2014 06:24 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote: He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote: the deepest one in the nest ##Vote: sinani206 You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling. On June 11 2014 06:27 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:24 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote: He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote: the deepest one in the nest ##Vote: sinani206 You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling. Sinani asked batsnacks what batsnacks has done all game. He wasn't able to answer the question and he disappeared. Batsnacks says that he's voting me because he hates hydras. He then goes on to soft push on me by saying shit like "this post isn't about this game so it doesn't mean anything" trying to justify his stupid vote awkward corner aka might lynch will watch: Chromatically: I don't like how he entered the thread. I don't like how he pushing sinani so hard. I don't like it because I don't see it. I can see the point he makes about entering the game with a pointless question trying to blend in. But I don't like how Chrom is blowing these questions up trying to twist it into mafia mindset. Did sinani enter the thread with a question? yes. Did it show mafia mindset. No. The question he asked JAT wasn't what Chrom is making it out to be. It was a pretty legit question. Somebody votes for Robik --> Robik replies --> Somebody says Robik is overdefensive --> sinani doesn't agree that Robik was overdefensive. I have now read Sinani his filter three times. I am puzzled by his filter. I do not see how Chrom can have such a strong scumread on Sinani that he is asking everybody to sheep him. tldr: Awkward entrance + Too strong scumread. + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 05:48 Chromatically wrote: first two people posting claim scum = scum always post first
therefore the first six people to post are scum
gg On June 11 2014 05:50 Chromatically wrote: Oh yeah I'm also town, in case anyone was wondering.
Now we just need the rest of the game to claim and we should be good. On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote: He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. ##Vote: sinani206 TicaTica: Entrance to the thread with a soft defense, a one-liner that looks extremely hard like an attempt to get towncred from those who he defends. the intention behind the entire post screams: Hi guys, I am town because I am helping. The buddying with marv makes me uncomfortable. Rest of filter is filler. + Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 06:49 TicaTica wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation. On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote: He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same. Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post. what was your post then Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal. On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote: the deepest one in the nest ##Vote: sinani206 Nisani und sinani be known lurkers irregardless of randed roll. On June 11 2014 06:54 TicaTica wrote: Marvelocity potential is villagery. Would be benefit if hydra heads were both to talk. Plammer is inherent wolfy. On June 11 2014 07:06 TicaTica wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 07:04 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 07:01 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 07:00 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 06:57 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 06:56 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 06:55 justanothertownie wrote:On June 11 2014 06:50 sinani206 wrote:On June 11 2014 06:46 Chromatically wrote: Sinani what do you think of JAT? Mostly one-liners and wishy washy, I don't really have time right now to quote because I have a meeting at 2:50 but if he keeps this kind of useless posting up I can see a chance of him being red. In this post sinani basically gives a null read on me. His reasoning can be used for almost 100 % of the players in this game. I think he added the part with the "chance of being red" to create the illusion that his question towards me had something to do with scumhunting -> tries to get Chrom off his ass. and therefore your conclusion? I think it's kinda scummy. I tend to agree, "if he keeps this up i can see a chance of him being red" is like so many layers of qualifiers :p on the other hand i'm pretty taken aback that sinani is posting volumously at all. that's a turn up for the books. Well, is it alignment indicative though? I never played with him afaik. well i'd expect a mafia-sinani not to bother. that's like a teensy lean though. Am surprised your not pushing this thought more. -villagry points to mar velocity. ##vote: TicaTica Wow. Your scumread on me is not even a scumread. You listed a bunch of things I did that you didn't like or disagreed with. What you did not do is explain how they make me scum. You "didn't like my entrance"- how does that make me scum? You actually say that you disagree with my scumread- how does that make me scum? Even when you're talking about how you disagree with my scumread, you don't quote the case and look at what parts of it you think could come from scum, you just mention why you disagree with some parts of it. And then you basically make up the part where I was "asking everyone to sheep me", because I was making a deliberate point of not doing that (I asked marv because I wanted his opinion, but I'm not going around asking people to start a wagon). I don't see at all how your points lead you to think I'm scum. What do you think of Koshi's alignment? Is he making this post as a villager or a wolf? I want to see his explanation of his read on me. Right now, it looks like he's not actually thinking about who's scummy, more about what things he can throw suspicion on. As town, he would be worried about why the things I've done make me scum, but as mafia, he would be happy to give out a read where he just says things he doesn't like (regardless of mafia motivation). The thing I'm worried about is that, as scum, he would be more wary of giving out townreads with such shoddy reasoning in such a blatant way, because it draws attention to himself. So explanation. Sound familiar? It seems to me he did to Sinani exactly what he said Koshi was doing to him. After this going from page 2-3 on his filter, he continues to freak out at Koshi a bit. Just like with Yamato, he asks Koshi about Koshi's read on himself. To me, it looks like Chrom is very worried about what everyone thinks about him. Regarding Koshi, he even goes on to say: On June 12 2014 01:53 Chromatically wrote:On June 12 2014 01:21 Koshi wrote: I am not even pushing for his lynch. Sorry I dared to say something bad about him. Sorry for trying to pressure him.
I GOT IT CHROM
I AM NOT ALLOWED TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT YOU.
SORRY BRO
OUTRAAAAGGGGEEEEE. My point in asking that question was that this does not sound like someone talking to their scumread. This sounds like he thinks I'm town.Think about it. If you're town and your scumread posts a big case on you claiming that you're misrepresenting them and trying to get you lynched, you're probably going to be mad/attack back and defend yourself. You wouldn't jokingly apologize to your scumread for pushing them, when you think they're scum trying to mislynch you. He's literally putting words into Koshi's mouth, saying that he's town. The banter with Koshi goes on for a little bit, and he starts asking for reads on Koshi. At the bottom of page 3 of his filter he says: On June 12 2014 09:28 Chromatically wrote: I'm going to see what people are on about with ketomai because I didn't really get it when he was in the thread. Followed by: On June 12 2014 09:41 Chromatically wrote: I think ketomai totally depends on what he posts next. The thing that happened in thread could have easily been a townie startled by people jumping on him before he starts playing. I agree that it's weird that he feels like he has to vote between round and Exo, but it's not really scummy..? He could have easily left his vote on himself and that would draw less attention.
What he posts next is the important part. This part isn't super relevant to my case, but I'm pointing it out here in case my case turns out to be correct. Ketomai has been suspected quite a bit, and here Chrom isn't exactly defending him but he is lightly trying to divert attention off of Ketomai. He's not joining any trains of thought against Keto though. Right before the "magic hour" I referred to earlier, we see Chrom trying to divert away from cats with: On June 13 2014 03:05 Chromatically wrote: Can't we just lynch ritoky? and On June 13 2014 03:12 Chromatically wrote: The case on Cats is good but it basically relies on him being experienced/good. He could be actually new or just really bad. ritoky has done things that are scum-motivated, not just bad. I'll consolidate my case because I think I wasn't very clear yesterday. That's just about all he had to say about cats, sorta in what I would call a "yeah yeah, but!" fashion. He doesn't want to say the case against cats is bad, but he doesn't want to encourage it either, and I think this post is a great way to try to push another case while acknowledging the cats case as little as possible. So we finally get to this hour. I understand at this point the voting is nearing its end. But chrom posts 12 times, his biggest concentration of posts yet. I won't quote all 12 posts, you can eaisly find them on his filter and they're going to clog this already clogged post. From 13:31 to 14:11 he was heavily pushing ritoky, I think in a desperate attempt to get the focus off king and onto somebody else. He gave it one last effort here: On June 13 2014 04:11 Chromatically wrote: It's not even worth it for me to push for ritoky if people don't want to go for it but I just think the case is watertight. But after this point I think he and the mafia saw the writing on the wall. So after 14:11 it's damage control mode. On June 13 2014 04:26 Chromatically wrote:On June 13 2014 04:15 Holyflare wrote: chrom your ritoky case applies to half the people in the game, why is ritoky pushing on you and sometimes mz different from kotc pushing on batsnacks for the worst reasons known to man? why you push yours over sheep? why you want to be so speshul? It doesn't though. The whole point is that ritoky isn't actually pushing on me. He's not trying to get me lynched at all. He just doesn't post about anything other than me, which is super scummy. AND he always responds to questions at him but never does anything. I'm trying to show the active lurking thing with quotes but I can't figure out how the timestamps work. It's something I noticed when I was talking to him. I would say something and he would immediately respond, and then some time later I would say something and he would immediately respond, but post nothing in the meantime. Someone else noticed it too (I thought it was JAT but it's not in his filter), I can't find the quote. I'm not going to defend Cats because he's pretty awful too. I just think my case is like a surefire scum lynch. No town does the things that ritoky does. On June 13 2014 04:28 Chromatically wrote: case on Cats >>> case on Kush Kush is like a 100% coinflip, he's just one of the people not playing. On June 13 2014 04:31 Chromatically wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote: TheKingOfTheCats
Half an hour left and ritoky's not happening.
I'll look at kush's meta and stuff but I really doubt he's going to be a better lynch today. I think after 14:11, Chrom accepted that he was going to lose a teammate and decided that transitioning to the KotC wagon was his best move to stay alive. He never really says why he agrees with the KotC case, or anything about it really. Not even in the same ballpark as how much he said about Ritoky. Based on what I've presented here, I think we should lynch Chrom next. I'm not 100% sure, but short of being the seer I don't think there is a 100% sure in this game. Perhaps I'm naive in thinking mafia would switch an obvious mafia vote once it was determined it was unavoidable that mafia would die. But I think I'd try to do something similar if I was mafia, especially on the day 1 lynch. So that's my piece, let me know what you think. I think if you read chrom's filter since the lynching, he's pretty obviously trying to divert people from suspecting him. But for a townie, he sure is thinking an awful lot like a mafia. ##Vote Chromatically I don't really want to go through everything in this post because most of it is non-alignment indicative and/or I've already talked about it (my push on sinani, why I asked for Koshi's read on me, how I felt about Cats). If you have specific points that you want me to address, tell me. I think you're stretching a bit with your part about the lynch, though. You can certainly make the argument that my actions around the lynch were scum-motivated (although not if ritoky flips mafia as well), but it's not as clear-cut as you're trying to make it out to be. When I posted my case on ritoky, Cats had 9 votes and ritoky had 0. If I was scum, it would already BE "damage control mode"; the chances of swinging the lynch onto ritoky were minimal, especially as no one else had been really pushing ritoky all day. All it would accomplish is looking weird after the flip (yes, this is kind of WIFOM, but I think that's "wine that's harder to drink", so to speak). It seems to me like you're inventing a storyline to fit your conception when you add things like "Chrom clams up after this", "He's literally putting words into Koshi's mouth", and talking about preflip associations. I think you're downplaying the seriousness of your push to try and make a mockery of a very solid case. I think my case against you alone is still strong, but I think the push you made on me late in the day that exo pointed out and I noticed as well is even more damning.
There was a guy with 8 votes on him a decent bit out from the deadline, and he wasn't just some mafia dude; it was a lynch that if it passed would reduce KP. If I was mafia, I would put in at least some effort to try and save KP. So in my opinion there had to be some wagon or some push that was made by mafia against someone to try and save the KP. My question to you chrom is, where was it? Was it the snb wagon etc.? My follow-up will be, why the hell aren't you pushing on those people then?
Personally, I think that you and maybe Haru are the ones that tried to organize and make a push to save KP against someone you thought was low hanging fruit and could push with a crappy case. It didn't work out and you tried to run away and gain back town cred without anyone noticing what you did. I just don't see the mafia (even if it is day 1) letting KP reduction happen significant contest, and I think you were the one who tried to push it moreso than anyone on the snb train.voting on chrom, everyone else should tooI said I would come back with a read on banks in a bit, and I will deliver. It is entirely a meta read so take it with a grain of salt if you don't like meta reads. In the previous 2 games I have played with him he has come out as super town the first day phase both games and very easily lands in most people in the thread's top 2-3 town list. Then during day 2 he pretty much disappears. He goes from pushy, full of questions, and with substantive reads to pretty much not that. The most important thing imo though is that during day 2 of these 2 games he's been mafia in a row (and a lot of his video mafia) he does 1 big thing on day 2 as mafia: he doesn't push lynch targets and instead defers to others to find primary lynch targets. I think he is doing that again today. On top of that I have a tiny thing I have noticed from watching some of his video mafia and being in a couple forum games that he does on day 2, it has been 100% accurate of him being mafia in 2 forums games and its about 70% accurate of him being mafia when he does it in the video games I have seen. And he just did it recently. I think he could very likely be mafia here, but I would never push him over chrom who is obviously mafia at this point. Regarding Haru, I think he came out the worse of the exchange with rainbows, especially that "I'll drop it if you drop it" comment. If you think he is scum then no you shouldn't drop it. He could very likely be a scum buddy with chrom, as they did go together in on the wagon on me that exo pointed out. Also I saw some votes on sandroba? Is that supposed to be policy lynch? Cuz I don't know why you would waste those votes, the guy is damn near being modkilled from inactivity at this point. His filter isn't even on the 2nd page. I also really want ticatica to get active as he is one of my strongest town reads from a few things, but mostly this post: Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 03:31 TicaTica wrote: I'm not sold on the King lynch but it's far from awful. I'll consolidate on it if needed versus say SnB. But I'm pretty sure Marv will get his way regardless so I'll do what I want. This is after he votes on ketomai. I think this post is 100% unnecessary if you are mafia. There's about 10 votes on the guy, he is obviously going down; so if he was mafia I feel like he would just take the free town cred like chrom did. I really want him to get more involved in the game. Plus he voted for ketomai who I wouldn't exactly be opposed to lynching. Ketomai voted on snb over KoC for not a particularly good reason. I didn't like his read on koshi, sinani, or exo when he gave them. If there's a world where the mafia were on the snb train to try and save KP instead of the whole chrom push thing, then this guy is probably one of them. Although I think chrom is more surefired mafia. tl;dr - just vote chrom To the red part: What is your opinion on HF then? Why do you just ignore him? To the green part: You either believe Ketomai that he was absent or not. If he did not lie about that he didn't really have the opportunity to vote correctly.
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On June 15 2014 21:29 kushm4sta wrote: so what is scummy about mattisfoolish? The fact that they are barely playing.
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On June 15 2014 22:35 ketomai wrote: marv: more town than before, to address my previous concerns. My theory would've been that there's mafia somewhere between jat, obiwan, and palmar that helped him start the wagon to bus KoC. It's still a possibility that votes 3/4 were mafia, but assuming marv is mafia, Palmar seemed like such a likely mafia case because he sheeped him so automatically early that it was easy to sheep him whenever without suspicion. I would have thought Palmar would have been mafia because he'd need the obvious sheep help on pushing a KoC case from literally nowhere.
sinani: Still believe he's mafia. Has not contributed at all except pops up immediately when someone defends him. Still has not done anything but defend himself and vote the easy vote on me. Doesn't provide content because he's happy with round's shitty and unreadable post. I can't believe anyone in their right mind would use that post.
I'm all for a MIF lynch. His flip will reveal a good deal about sandroba anyway, so it's nice. Also if he flips mafia, jat and marv are pretty much 100% town for me. I want a sinani lynch but it's too late to get more information out of him in time so I suppose we can save that later.
Do you have any actual reasons for your so called "theory"? Why would mafia help marv to start a wagon on mafia and willingly reduce KP in the process. Sense it does not make. Also if someone just automatically sheeps someone it is HIGHLY unlikely that they are both mafia in my experience.
Not terribly opposed to you sinani read though. Maybe I lack the meta knowledge but I don't see how he is very towny.
Why does MIFs flip say anything at all about sandroba?
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On June 15 2014 23:01 Koshi wrote: I voted Kush. Sandroba can wait I guess.
## vote: Kush Way to undermine this push... Also funny that you do this now that kush has started to play a little.
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On June 15 2014 23:09 roundabound wrote:~moc Really? Wouldn't have noticed without that sig.
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On June 15 2014 23:14 roundabound wrote:Thanks jat. I know u americanos need as much assistance as possible. Hehehe ~moc Hodor Not an americano I am. But nice try it was.
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On June 15 2014 23:16 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2014 23:04 justanothertownie wrote:On June 15 2014 23:01 Koshi wrote: I voted Kush. Sandroba can wait I guess.
## vote: Kush Way to undermine this push... Also funny that you do this now that kush has started to play a little. Why is it funny? I vote him because he is superscummy. Ok, I will listen. Explain.
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On June 15 2014 23:19 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2014 23:17 justanothertownie wrote:On June 15 2014 23:16 Koshi wrote:On June 15 2014 23:04 justanothertownie wrote:On June 15 2014 23:01 Koshi wrote: I voted Kush. Sandroba can wait I guess.
## vote: Kush Way to undermine this push... Also funny that you do this now that kush has started to play a little. Why is it funny? I vote him because he is superscummy. Ok, I will listen. Explain. Giving townreads because it is easy. Scumreads are omgus even though he is reading thread. Not a single interesting thought. Meh, maybe. I still think we shouldn't let MIF and sandro skirt by like this - they are both capable of solving the game or at least look really towny and I see nothing like that. Kush is at least in the thread and not avoiding the spotlight.
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On June 15 2014 23:25 Koshi wrote: At least in the thread......
Doing nothing and his scumreads are lazy omgus.
Kush is doing nothing. Well, I remember Kushs towngame to be quite like that. And I remember him being my mafia buddy and being townread by the whole thread. He could of course be scum but I don't see it atm and I don't think voting him right now would achieve anything but go ahead and question him if you insist.
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On June 15 2014 23:26 yamato77 wrote: moc we should kill kush Any other revelations?
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On June 15 2014 23:36 Koshi wrote: Sandroba cant be shot by vig or something? Really Koshi? Let's assume they are both town. Who do you think has more value for the town?
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On June 15 2014 23:40 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2014 23:38 justanothertownie wrote:On June 15 2014 23:36 Koshi wrote: Sandroba cant be shot by vig or something? Really Koshi? Let's assume they are both town. Who do you think has more value for the town? Are you really really dumb or what is it? You want to lynch him d2 after he made 2 posts but you give me crap for wanting to get him shot n2 after 2 postz???? Really? What are you even talking about? More value so lynch fast????? We are wagoning him to MAKE HIM DO SOMETHING if he is town - this is the only way to figure out his alignment. You can't make him do something by vigging him dude. I can't believe how ignorant you are playing this game.
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Also doing nothing is his undeniable scummeta.
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On June 15 2014 23:43 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2014 23:42 justanothertownie wrote:On June 15 2014 23:40 Koshi wrote:On June 15 2014 23:38 justanothertownie wrote:On June 15 2014 23:36 Koshi wrote: Sandroba cant be shot by vig or something? Really Koshi? Let's assume they are both town. Who do you think has more value for the town? Are you really really dumb or what is it? You want to lynch him d2 after he made 2 posts but you give me crap for wanting to get him shot n2 after 2 postz???? Really? What are you even talking about? More value so lynch fast????? We are wagoning him to MAKE HIM DO SOMETHING if he is town - this is the only way to figure out his alignment. You can't make him do something by vigging him dude. I can't believe how ignorant you are playing this game. Hahahahaha. 5 hours before end. With 2 votes. Dat pressure. That's why you should vote for him/MIF genius.
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On June 15 2014 23:45 Koshi wrote: No wait it is you alone.
Hahahahahhahahaahahahahahaha.
Fuck I am gone. I cant take this absurdinity anymore. Jesus are you annoying this game...
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And to be clear I am voting MIF for the same reasons I would vote sandroba and there is certainly more than 1 vote on him.
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On June 15 2014 23:49 justanothertownie wrote: And to be clear I am voting MIF for the same reasons I would vote sandroba and there is certainly more than 1 vote on him. In fact it is the biggest wagon.
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On June 15 2014 23:52 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2014 23:51 justanothertownie wrote:On June 15 2014 23:49 justanothertownie wrote: And to be clear I am voting MIF for the same reasons I would vote sandroba and there is certainly more than 1 vote on him. In fact it is the biggest wagon. Then the pressure is on! As long as noone else plays like you do that is correct.
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On June 15 2014 23:51 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2014 23:49 justanothertownie wrote: And to be clear I am voting MIF for the same reasons I would vote sandroba and there is certainly more than 1 vote on him. If it's sandrobas meta to afk and not follishness' then why are you voting foolish?? I started a wagon on him but marv said he preferred MIF. Go check it.
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On June 15 2014 23:58 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2014 23:54 justanothertownie wrote:On June 15 2014 23:51 Holyflare wrote:On June 15 2014 23:49 justanothertownie wrote: And to be clear I am voting MIF for the same reasons I would vote sandroba and there is certainly more than 1 vote on him. If it's sandrobas meta to afk and not follishness' then why are you voting foolish?? I started a wagon on him but marv said he preferred MIF. Go check it. Why do you care what marv said in relation to 2 lurkers? Follow your own heart. Because we need a wagon to pressure them. I think that is quite obvious. Also although I might slightly prefer a sandroba wagon this is also totally fine with me.
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On June 15 2014 23:59 Holyflare wrote: Do you not like Foolishness' gumshoe points or are you just sheeping for the hell of it? No, I am not amazed by what he did there and I already said so.
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On June 16 2014 00:02 Koshi wrote: Ohyeah. Gumshoe is another guy we could lynch/shoot. Snb same.
Both came in thread when big cases were around to do absolutely nothing. At least sandroba has the decency to not type words while doing nothing.
I might be too harsh on 1 but the other guy did exactly that. Well, gumshoe always makes a good vigshot. That is for sure.
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On June 16 2014 00:06 Holyflare wrote: We don't have infinite vig shots jat What is your point?
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If we have a vig we have 2 shots. Shoot kush and gumshoe for example. Well done. I won't waste a lynch on this stuff when all this hydra has done regarding scumhunting (besides going after confirmed town MZ day1) is this post:
On June 15 2014 01:22 mattisfoolish wrote:If you want to seal the deal look at his mafia game recently here (YOSO) and Cell mini mafia where he's town here. His mafia play is characterized by generic posting, slight inactivity and lack of initiative to figure anything out. In cell mini where he's town he has a marvellosity-number of pages in his filter and was actively pushing people (also lots of one liners). So far this game he's written generic posts (see the one I quoted above but also here) he has zero initiative in finding scum (proof here and here) and is hardly participating in town discussion...just kinda writing out posts cause he needs to.
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On June 16 2014 00:12 Koshi wrote: If we have a vig he shot mz. Scum doesnt have a rb and they used janitor on hf. If you believe mz was shot by scum then va and kush are town. Scum could aswell have a vigilante.
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On June 16 2014 00:13 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 00:10 justanothertownie wrote:If we have a vig we have 2 shots. Shoot kush and gumshoe for example. Well done. I won't waste a lynch on this stuff when all this hydra has done regarding scumhunting (besides going after confirmed town MZ day1) is this post: On June 15 2014 01:22 mattisfoolish wrote:If you want to seal the deal look at his mafia game recently here (YOSO) and Cell mini mafia where he's town here. His mafia play is characterized by generic posting, slight inactivity and lack of initiative to figure anything out. In cell mini where he's town he has a marvellosity-number of pages in his filter and was actively pushing people (also lots of one liners). So far this game he's written generic posts (see the one I quoted above but also here) he has zero initiative in finding scum (proof here and here) and is hardly participating in town discussion...just kinda writing out posts cause he needs to. You remember ver game? What is different from ver game? He went after snb there d1. Look at his filter there and here. I dare you to tell me it looks similar. I dare you.
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On June 16 2014 00:18 Koshi wrote: Probably has more words in ver game. Can you show me fool game in which he does nothing as scum? I don't need to. I see a glaring difference to the towngames I know of and if he doesn't do something today he can just die. So you think he is town or wtf are you doing?
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On June 16 2014 00:19 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 00:17 Holyflare wrote:On June 16 2014 00:12 Koshi wrote: If we have a vig he shot mz. Scum doesnt have a rb and they used janitor on hf. If you believe mz was shot by scum then va and kush are town. ... This is an oddly sure night action thing. Why would va and kush be town? Cuw mz would shoot them? If va kush are scum they would rb mz over you. This is actually not a bad point. A good reason not to vote kush.
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On June 16 2014 00:24 Koshi wrote: It could be that mz was rb and that kush is scum. But town vigi shot mz and hf fake claimed the rb.
Then kush is bussing hf like he likes. And hf is bussing kush for funzies.
Yes. I like this theory. HF rb was silly. It could be. But how likely is that. It means you are SURE HF is scum too. Might aswell vote him.
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On June 16 2014 00:28 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 00:26 justanothertownie wrote:On June 16 2014 00:24 Koshi wrote: It could be that mz was rb and that kush is scum. But town vigi shot mz and hf fake claimed the rb.
Then kush is bussing hf like he likes. And hf is bussing kush for funzies.
Yes. I like this theory. HF rb was silly. It could be. But how likely is that. It means you are SURE HF is scum too. Might aswell vote him. You better claim greencheck on kush at this rate. No, I claim having a brain. If it neccessary that HF is scum for your little theory to be true then he is the correct vote and not kush.
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On June 16 2014 00:28 Holyflare wrote:Or the fact that i claimed vig day 1 and said I'd shoot kush I don't think they would believe you over MZ though.
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On June 16 2014 00:35 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 00:34 Koshi wrote: For my theory to be true either kush or va have to be scum. I believe my theory is a possibility but far from a certainty.
I think for example kush might be scum because reasons given. Ah yes the reasons i gave that you been sheeping Yeah, those.
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On June 16 2014 01:09 Holyflare wrote: Why are you getting angry if it's garbage? Just find mafia? I second this.
Will be gone for a while -> World Cup. I really hope marv shows up soonish...
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On June 16 2014 01:51 Koshi wrote: Sandroba & snb I could cote for if marv tells me to. But mif? No ty.
On June 14 2014 23:53 Koshi wrote: ##Unvote ##vote: mattisfoolish
Hm? A sure nightkill. Yeah...
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What changed between that and now Koshie? How come you defend the hydra so hard?
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On June 16 2014 02:11 Koshi wrote: We voted to pressure fool and he responded.
Why.do you defend kush so hard? I gave me reaspns. I have no idea why anyone would be convinced by his response.
I am not defending Kush, I am pushing MIF or Sandro and you yourself brought up a very good argument to not lynch kush.
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On June 16 2014 02:18 TicaTica wrote: I really doubt MILF is mafia just based on timing. Gonna shower then filter. Sandroba a better lynch IMO. Ok, elaborate on that when you are back please.
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On June 16 2014 02:48 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 00:26 justanothertownie wrote:On June 16 2014 00:24 Koshi wrote: It could be that mz was rb and that kush is scum. But town vigi shot mz and hf fake claimed the rb.
Then kush is bussing hf like he likes. And hf is bussing kush for funzies.
Yes. I like this theory. HF rb was silly. It could be. But how likely is that. It means you are SURE HF is scum too. Might aswell vote him. This a very strange post btw. Why do I have to vote for HF if I think both are scum? Doesnt make any sense. Smells so iffy. Robik the magus what you think? Koshi... you posted a theory that relied on HF being scum. Very strange to suggest voting him then hm? Are you serious? It takes serious self control for me to no call you names right now.
On June 16 2014 03:18 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 03:14 TicaTica wrote:On June 16 2014 02:54 roundabound wrote:On June 16 2014 02:49 TicaTica wrote:On June 16 2014 02:19 justanothertownie wrote:On June 16 2014 02:18 TicaTica wrote: I really doubt MILF is mafia just based on timing. Gonna shower then filter. Sandroba a better lynch IMO. Ok, elaborate on that when you are back please. Look at where an when things have come up. Semi late push. No reasonable counter push. Votes spread all around. I'd look at Ket and Haruh. I don't think the rainbows Haru shit was town on town at all. No counter push? Kush, no? Sandroba, no? The vote spread around is not indicative to me of mafia being happy or unhappy with the vote. Its indicative of lack of leadership. Every bob, joe, dick and harry is going around saying "Player XYZ" is mafia; there has not been a driving force towards consolidation. Robik and me finally caught up to chat & we agree rainbows/haru is not town + town either. However I havent seen a good reason to not vote MIF other than potential to solve the game (which is applicable to a multitude of players left in the pool). ~moc There's nothing coordinated with any of those pushes. There's no urgency. The closest thing is the Haruh/Rainbows thing. Votes right now show they don't in any way care about Fool getting lynched now and haven't all day. That makes him exceptionally likely to be town. I'm pretty sure that Haru is the mafia between Haru/rainbows, but I'm going to spend my time there. Really? So you guys choose to ignore the elephant in the room? Even when I explained EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. of the arguments pointed at me, getting pissed off at how people simply dig out the same shit over and over again to use as argument, when they refuse to read other posts which explain why this is so? So tell me tica, what case do you have against me? Bring it out. I'll be kind and link a post of mine that answers this.
On June 16 2014 03:24 HaruRH wrote: you know what, I don't care anymore. nobody has made a convincing case against me at all. None of you. Go ahead, lynch me today. I'll drop by 10 minutes before the lynch tomorrow and write my final remarks. Enjoy the mislynch guys You are not only annoying I start to think you are pretty scummy for only coming into this thread if you feel the need to defend yourself overly aggressive.
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On June 16 2014 04:01 marvellosity wrote: hi. 20+ pages behind and only an hour left. anything really interesting? Just skim most of the things and hurry please. There were some cases but nothing really got traction and it is pretty much chaos right now. Sandro and Matt/Fool didn't even show up.
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On June 16 2014 04:08 TicaTica wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 04:06 marvellosity wrote: really 6 people not voting with less than an hour to go? that's atrocious Take a look at the Haru filter and my and Rainbow's case. I'm pretty sure the Haru/Rainbows interaction was scum-on-town and I think Rainbows is the town. Do that if you find the time.
I am basically at the point where I would switch to sandro or just lynch MIF but nothing else really looks very promising to me. Maybe Haru.
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On June 16 2014 04:10 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 04:06 marvellosity wrote: really 6 people not voting with less than an hour to go? that's atrocious It's funny because I think all of them could be scum. Noone looks particularly towny that is correct.
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On June 16 2014 04:12 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 04:05 Amiko wrote:Vote Count - Day 2: roundabound (2): batsnacks, Holyflare Rainbows (1): HaruRH HaruRH (3): Rainbows, Chromatically, TicaTica Ketomai (1): roundabound, sinani206 kushm4sta (3): yamato77, Holyflare, ObiWanShinobi, ObiWanShinobi, Koshi Chromatically (2): ExO_, ritoky sandroba (0): justanothertownie, marvellosity, Koshi, mattisfoolish, Holyflaremattisfoolish (5): marvellosity, Koshi, justanothertownie, ObiWanShinobi, Tehpoofter, ketomai, roundabound gumshoe (1): mattisfoolish ritoky (1): VayneAuthority Erandorr (1): Chairman Ray what the fuck is this vote CR basically came in here said he would vote for someone even more inactive dropped this garbage vote and peaced out.
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On June 16 2014 04:15 Holyflare wrote: Forgot about the ray vote. Would lynch. Same.
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On June 16 2014 04:17 marvellosity wrote: also with how spread out the votes are, i'm not sure we're hitting mafia with fool.
although his play is spectacularly shit.
##Unvote ##Vote: Chairman Ray I will sheep you but keep in mind sandro also promised to be back day2 and nothing happened.
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On June 16 2014 04:19 marvellosity wrote:where the crap did this come from. He did this several times. Everytime someone accused him.
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On June 16 2014 04:19 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 04:19 justanothertownie wrote:On June 16 2014 04:17 marvellosity wrote: also with how spread out the votes are, i'm not sure we're hitting mafia with fool.
although his play is spectacularly shit.
##Unvote ##Vote: Chairman Ray I will sheep you but keep in mind sandro also promised to be back day2 and nothing happened. yes, but he will probably be modkilled at this point. Errandor is still in the game. But ok. CR it is.
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On June 16 2014 04:22 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 04:20 justanothertownie wrote:On June 16 2014 04:19 marvellosity wrote:On June 16 2014 04:19 justanothertownie wrote:On June 16 2014 04:17 marvellosity wrote: also with how spread out the votes are, i'm not sure we're hitting mafia with fool.
although his play is spectacularly shit.
##Unvote ##Vote: Chairman Ray I will sheep you but keep in mind sandro also promised to be back day2 and nothing happened. yes, but he will probably be modkilled at this point. Errandor is still in the game. But ok. CR it is. day 1 is not day 2. just got to ritoky's post on page 135-6 or so. i swear he didn't feel this disconnected from the game in Cell 2 anyone agree/disagree? I haven't read that game but I didn't like that post.
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On June 16 2014 04:29 marvellosity wrote: i'm still catching up, dunno why people would be following me around
why do you like CR's Erandorr vote then Koshi?
how do we feel about yamato? I could kill yamato.
I'm ok with Poofter after all because he posted some more when i thought he wouldn't have I think you should accept that you will be deciding the lynch. Make up your mind. I can also kill yamato because he has done nothing since early day1.
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On June 16 2014 04:37 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2014 23:39 yamato77 wrote: I think today has been a monumental waste. ##Unvote ##Vote: yamato77what have you done to fix it, yam? Ok. But we have to consolidate this now. Time is running out.
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On June 16 2014 04:41 marvellosity wrote: i don't particularly oppose kush dying tbh. Read this before:
On June 16 2014 00:19 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 00:17 Holyflare wrote:On June 16 2014 00:12 Koshi wrote: If we have a vig he shot mz. Scum doesnt have a rb and they used janitor on hf. If you believe mz was shot by scum then va and kush are town. ... This is an oddly sure night action thing. Why would va and kush be town? Cuw mz would shoot them? If va kush are scum they would rb mz over you.
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On June 16 2014 04:44 Holyflare wrote: Nah jat i claimed vig day 1 and mz doing it at night with a rber on the hunt wouldn't make sense I doubt that anyone took your claim/s seriously.
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On June 16 2014 04:45 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 04:44 marvellosity wrote:On June 16 2014 04:44 Holyflare wrote: Nah jat i claimed vig day 1 and mz doing it at night with a rber on the hunt wouldn't make sense no that is shit logic Holy. shit logic. MZ's claim was 100000000000x more believable than yours. So why does koshi want to kill the guy whose logic he brought up? Because Koshi is *censored*.
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On June 16 2014 04:50 mattisfoolish wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 04:48 Holyflare wrote:On June 16 2014 04:47 mattisfoolish wrote: can we not vote someone who is not voting please -matt Says the hydra voting for gumshoe? that will change, soonish -matt You have 10 minutes dude...
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On June 16 2014 04:58 marvellosity wrote: actually i'm going to sheep Tica.
##Unvote ##Vote: Haru Jesus...
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At least the haru/rainbows tunnel is gone now...
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On June 16 2014 05:11 batsnacks wrote: 5 people didn't vote. Does anyone want to argue whether not voting is/isn't alignment indicative? Where the hell were you all this time?
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On June 16 2014 05:14 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 05:12 justanothertownie wrote:On June 16 2014 05:11 batsnacks wrote: 5 people didn't vote. Does anyone want to argue whether not voting is/isn't alignment indicative? Where the hell were you all this time? My vote was in the right place all of day 2. I was first to vote. What do you mean where was I? You wasted your vote, did nothing to push your target and now have the balls to say this?
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So you were here the time before the lynch and just chose to do nothing?
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I need a break from this game. Vig this guy...
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On June 16 2014 05:20 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 05:06 marvellosity wrote:On June 16 2014 05:04 TicaTica wrote:On June 16 2014 05:03 marvellosity wrote: there's no good reason for yam to be town at all tbh. Don't you think he'd do a bit more as mafia though. Like a hair more. He was 50/50 early on for me, but I don't think he's mafia. I can reread him but nothing he's done really strikes me as mafia him. No. He really wouldn't. meeeeeeh I don't really care. And this guy.
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Marv why did you have to switch off yam And why did I follow -_-
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On June 16 2014 05:29 batsnacks wrote: I pushed on Ray to make him talk more bunnies. We had a great conversation and I don't think he's mafia anymore. I didn't have a lot to say day 2 because I didn't agree with anyone's reads but my own so I just stuck on roundabound and called it a day. That is not what this game is about. You have to convince people if you think you are right.
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On June 16 2014 06:09 Koshi wrote: That you people don't get that I am the vig is really funny. And did you shoot MZ?
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On June 16 2014 06:09 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 06:08 Holyflare wrote: If you are going to try and get someone lynched in the guise of attempting to play, try and not make it me because you will fail. I really hope that the vig thinks I'm scum.
On June 16 2014 06:12 yamato77 wrote: Koshi if you are town vig and you shoot me, I will be very upset. ?
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On June 16 2014 06:12 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 06:10 justanothertownie wrote:On June 16 2014 06:09 Koshi wrote: That you people don't get that I am the vig is really funny. And did you shoot MZ? ofc. I wanted to shoot Kush but then the guy claims to shoot Kush. Meh. I thought he was mafia going for cred or so. Or when the real vig would shoot Kush he gets cred. w.e I shot him. Ok, but then you really need to think that HF is fakeclaiming if you also think that kush is scum, no?
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On June 16 2014 06:14 yamato77 wrote: JAT, you are not very townie :[ Yes I am. Sadly you aren't. Not at all.
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On June 16 2014 06:21 yamato77 wrote: JAT you kinda just sheeped marv all game. No good way to read you from that at all. If you think that's all I did this game and can't be read you are not only wrong but also awful. But I won't argue with you.
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On June 16 2014 06:24 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 06:21 yamato77 wrote: JAT you kinda just sheeped marv all game. No good way to read you from that at all. I agree with this JAT you could be a wolf in village clothing be free of marv for the night and do some analysis on people with words and stuff. I remember your passion on Foolishness from YOSO damn it was so village you didn't need to hide behind a shield or something. I never tunneled as hard before and I have no intention to do so again. Also there is noone who sticks out as scummy as he did in that game. Partly because half of this game is scummy somehow.
The village joke is getting old fairly quickly btw.
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On June 16 2014 06:28 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 06:23 justanothertownie wrote:On June 16 2014 06:21 yamato77 wrote: JAT you kinda just sheeped marv all game. No good way to read you from that at all. If you think that's all I did this game and can't be read you are not only wrong but also awful. But I won't argue with you. I looked at your votes. Pretty much all of them are sheep marv votes. Especially the ones near EOD. So what? Explain to me how this makes me scum please.
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On June 16 2014 06:31 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 06:26 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 16 2014 06:22 Holyflare wrote:On June 16 2014 06:21 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 16 2014 06:19 Holyflare wrote:Let's just carry on assuming I'm town because i have the proof You may have proof, but town doesn't, so let's not assume and make an ass out of ourselves. I like you HF, but you gotta do better than that No i literally have proof so carry on. With the way votes went today who is most likely to be a wolf? Just like a top 3 based PURELY on votes or lack there of. I'll answer this. Based purely on votes: Chrom, CR, MIF who voted. Gumshoe, Kush, SNB who didn't vote. Also, JAT, every vote Marv has been on, you have been on. Seems like major sheeping going on. You believe that much in MArv? Well, it worked pretty well day1, no?
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On June 16 2014 06:33 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 06:31 justanothertownie wrote:On June 16 2014 06:28 yamato77 wrote:On June 16 2014 06:23 justanothertownie wrote:On June 16 2014 06:21 yamato77 wrote: JAT you kinda just sheeped marv all game. No good way to read you from that at all. If you think that's all I did this game and can't be read you are not only wrong but also awful. But I won't argue with you. I looked at your votes. Pretty much all of them are sheep marv votes. Especially the ones near EOD. So what? Explain to me how this makes me scum please. I only said you don't look townie, brah And implying that I look scummy with that. Or what else am I then? 3rd party?
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Based on Kushs play Koshi can and should absolutely shoot him but I don't get his thought process here. HF claims being rbed so that means if Koshi believes HF then mafia would have done nothing concerning MZs vigclaim. Since he said he would shoot Kush this would be really weird. Koshi even brought it up himself but still wants to shoot Kush. I don't get it.
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On June 16 2014 06:39 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 06:14 justanothertownie wrote:On June 16 2014 06:12 Koshi wrote:On June 16 2014 06:10 justanothertownie wrote:On June 16 2014 06:09 Koshi wrote: That you people don't get that I am the vig is really funny. And did you shoot MZ? ofc. I wanted to shoot Kush but then the guy claims to shoot Kush. Meh. I thought he was mafia going for cred or so. Or when the real vig would shoot Kush he gets cred. w.e I shot him. Ok, but then you really need to think that HF is fakeclaiming if you also think that kush is scum, no? It is not an accident I found that awesome theory that HF is faking a rb claim. Ok, if you really think so then go for it.
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And HF busses Kush on top of that? Pretty stupid scumplay. But ok, not that I trust HF in any way.
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On June 16 2014 06:48 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 06:32 justanothertownie wrote:On June 16 2014 06:31 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 16 2014 06:26 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 16 2014 06:22 Holyflare wrote:On June 16 2014 06:21 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 16 2014 06:19 Holyflare wrote:Let's just carry on assuming I'm town because i have the proof You may have proof, but town doesn't, so let's not assume and make an ass out of ourselves. I like you HF, but you gotta do better than that No i literally have proof so carry on. With the way votes went today who is most likely to be a wolf? Just like a top 3 based PURELY on votes or lack there of. I'll answer this. Based purely on votes: Chrom, CR, MIF who voted. Gumshoe, Kush, SNB who didn't vote. Also, JAT, every vote Marv has been on, you have been on. Seems like major sheeping going on. You believe that much in MArv? Well, it worked pretty well day1, no? Yes, but easily could be mafia buddying up with a town. I'm still reading you pretty townish tho. I just don't like the sheeping. Then you should just stop disliking not alignment indicative things.
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On June 16 2014 06:53 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 06:51 justanothertownie wrote:On June 16 2014 06:48 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 16 2014 06:32 justanothertownie wrote:On June 16 2014 06:31 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 16 2014 06:26 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 16 2014 06:22 Holyflare wrote:On June 16 2014 06:21 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 16 2014 06:19 Holyflare wrote:Let's just carry on assuming I'm town because i have the proof You may have proof, but town doesn't, so let's not assume and make an ass out of ourselves. I like you HF, but you gotta do better than that No i literally have proof so carry on. With the way votes went today who is most likely to be a wolf? Just like a top 3 based PURELY on votes or lack there of. I'll answer this. Based purely on votes: Chrom, CR, MIF who voted. Gumshoe, Kush, SNB who didn't vote. Also, JAT, every vote Marv has been on, you have been on. Seems like major sheeping going on. You believe that much in MArv? Well, it worked pretty well day1, no? Yes, but easily could be mafia buddying up with a town. I'm still reading you pretty townish tho. I just don't like the sheeping. Then you should just stop disliking not alignment indicative things. Sheeping can be alignment indicative. Mafia do it to seem mre townie as if they are sheeping a town person. One liners aren't alignment indicative and sheeping on itself also isn't. Show with which sheepvotes you have a problem or talk about stuff that matters please.
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On June 16 2014 06:54 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 06:52 marvellosity wrote:On June 16 2014 06:50 batsnacks wrote:On June 16 2014 06:47 marvellosity wrote: tbf if mafia roleblock someone who died, a mafia claiming the rb makes plenty of sense in general terms. You're talking about Holyflare right? yes. i'm not actually offering an opinion on whether it is the case or not, because hf may have been legit roleblocked but if i roleblocked someone as mafia and they wound up dead, i'd claim it or tell a team-mate to claim it Is there possibility of jailer roleblocking him? Kinda stupid imo- but just putting it out there. (Jailer should have been on the vigi claim.. Poor MZ) Why? So he can't shoot? Bad idea.
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On June 16 2014 06:55 marvellosity wrote: yeah i don't see why a jailer would ever be on hf Attention bunnies! I am sheeping marv on this statement.
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On June 16 2014 06:58 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 06:52 marvellosity wrote:On June 16 2014 06:50 batsnacks wrote:On June 16 2014 06:47 marvellosity wrote: tbf if mafia roleblock someone who died, a mafia claiming the rb makes plenty of sense in general terms. You're talking about Holyflare right? yes. i'm not actually offering an opinion on whether it is the case or not, because hf may have been legit roleblocked but if i roleblocked someone as mafia and they wound up dead, i'd claim it or tell a team-mate to claim it If I roleblocked someone who died, I would suggest vanilla mafia to claim they were blocked. Mafia roleblocker claiming like that seems like too much of a risk. So if Holyflare is mafia, I would not expect him to be roleblocker. Great analysis. But you should maybe give an opinion on the alignments of Kush/HF etc. instead.
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On June 16 2014 07:01 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 06:56 justanothertownie wrote:On June 16 2014 06:54 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 16 2014 06:52 marvellosity wrote:On June 16 2014 06:50 batsnacks wrote:On June 16 2014 06:47 marvellosity wrote: tbf if mafia roleblock someone who died, a mafia claiming the rb makes plenty of sense in general terms. You're talking about Holyflare right? yes. i'm not actually offering an opinion on whether it is the case or not, because hf may have been legit roleblocked but if i roleblocked someone as mafia and they wound up dead, i'd claim it or tell a team-mate to claim it Is there possibility of jailer roleblocking him? Kinda stupid imo- but just putting it out there. (Jailer should have been on the vigi claim.. Poor MZ) Why? So he can't shoot? Bad idea. I was thinking more of saving MZ rather than not allowing him to shoot.Also, like I said. it was stupid idea-about hf being jailed, but was putting it out there. There is no saving him without also rbing him though. Saves should have been on marv. No way a jailkeeper is on HF.
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Well 1:0. That was quick.
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On June 16 2014 07:03 Tehpoofter wrote:Jealous I'm at work and the stream I found for it sucks if you have a good free one anyone get at me. I would love to see the argentinian blood bath. Sorry, free on television where I live.
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On June 16 2014 07:05 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 07:02 justanothertownie wrote:On June 16 2014 07:01 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 16 2014 06:56 justanothertownie wrote:On June 16 2014 06:54 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 16 2014 06:52 marvellosity wrote:On June 16 2014 06:50 batsnacks wrote:On June 16 2014 06:47 marvellosity wrote: tbf if mafia roleblock someone who died, a mafia claiming the rb makes plenty of sense in general terms. You're talking about Holyflare right? yes. i'm not actually offering an opinion on whether it is the case or not, because hf may have been legit roleblocked but if i roleblocked someone as mafia and they wound up dead, i'd claim it or tell a team-mate to claim it Is there possibility of jailer roleblocking him? Kinda stupid imo- but just putting it out there. (Jailer should have been on the vigi claim.. Poor MZ) Why? So he can't shoot? Bad idea. I was thinking more of saving MZ rather than not allowing him to shoot.Also, like I said. it was stupid idea-about hf being jailed, but was putting it out there. There is no saving him without also rbing him though. Saves should have been on marv. No way a jailkeeper is on HF. Like I said, I could be wrong. IDc. Just a thing that popped in my head. Idk why HF couldn't be possible jailer target? I just like HF this game. Also, can someone tell me, did MZ ever claim who he was going to shoot? He could have been possibly claiming on a town, and mafia didnt rb for that reason. He said he was going to shoot Kush. That's what this is all about.
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On June 16 2014 10:09 Tehpoofter wrote: Updating where my reads are atm on everyone.
Village: Tehpoofter Marv - obv, lock clear if he is a wolf we probably already lost Koshi - stepped it up considerably day 2 claiming vigi Roundabound - Casing my biggest wolf in ketomai, tone read on robik seems to be working on the village side Slam - sticking with my gut on slam probably least sure about this read ExO - Not use to the meta needs to step up more tonight/tomorrow if he wants to stay here he says he needs vote to analyse there has been plenty of that now ObiWanSmurf - Seemed to be following along at EoD and actively wanting to figure out who to kill actions seem to favor village. VA - Tried today a little bit seems to care at least moderately about the game and isn't just randomly throwing his vote on someone and afking for 48 hours Bunnies - replaced erradorr seems to have read up on the game and know where the thread is at. I find it hard for a wolf to replace into this spot and come out free talking like she is but her wolf game does fall off so look at her a bit tomorrow or the next day JAT - needs to stop sheeping marv only and find someone he thinks is wolf for his reasons. Lowest on the list because of a bit of weird interaction day 1 following marv's case on KoTC
People who could be villagers: TicaTica - pushed hard on Haru at EoD if yamato is wolf insta lynch if yamato village he is okay until his EoD day 2 he was in the village not too worried but not green green. Rainbows - Tunneled a village that I read as wolf so good line of thinking but could be wolf pushing on a village would like to see where his reads are now Kush - kush is a hard read sounds like we might not need to worry about what alignment he is after tonight but if he lives need some improvement on activity. Chromatically - was going strong day one but has ended up off the wagon voting wise would love to see him EOD doing things as well as sticking out a bit more to me. I had him as village pretty hard day 1 but starting to think Koshi might be GOAT and pegged you day 1. ritoky - a bit too lurky his read on me wasn't awful and I don't blame him for the read although I'd like to see him evolve his reads a little bit more I'm kinda worried of a wolf who is just tunneling on some people unlikely to die to seem involved.
People who need to talk about someone besides Kush: HF - Play the game your exam is over Kush is perhaps 1 of 5 wolves find the other 4 please.
[pink]People who need to not be donkies with their votes and instead of just afking during EoD actually participate and try to convince other people they're right or wrong for some reason and not just stick a vote on someone and do shit all else: Batsnacks - I think your comment about your vote is legit one of the silliest things I've ever heard someone say about their voting patterns. Its almost too dumb to come from a wolf but I would still lynch you for it. You need to participate in the votes if you're a villager your vote makes a BIG difference EoD and if the village votes on 2-3 wagons only its harder for wolves to manipulate and makes analysis after we see some flips VERY useful. If you just vote one person and no one else you're not helping village EVEN IF YOU HAPPEN TO BE RIGHT ABOUT THAT ONE PERSON!!!!!!!!!!!!! (I wish there was more colors so I could make you pink) [/pink]
Lurkers that need to post more presumed wolf until proven town: Would kill these people gumshoe - Day 1 played Day 2 went into full Afk mode step up or step out. Sandroba - You are suppose to be good, I don't see it afking as wolf is lame your play in catastrophe impressed me. (I will say this you live in brazil if I remember right so if you're involved in the world cup just tell us if that shit was where I live I wouldn't be playing this game I'd be off watching games and enjoying that once in a lifetime experience) SnB - was the day 1 counterwagon to a wolf I'm most hesitant about lynching you but you need to step up your game or you'll make me start thinking it was Vanilla wolf vs Power Wolf MattisFoolish - Foolish I expect more tbh the day 1 read on MZ was weak. Your day 2 EoD was pretty good but there is 2 of you and you're really not even doing what 1/2 a person would do. Matt Is also really bad at being a wolf so makes me a bit leery Sinani206 - I forgot you were in the game until I read the player list. I'm actually going to filter dive you after this and see where I end up you might be in the wrong spot tbh. yamato77 - Talked to you earlier you perked up for a bit and showed signs of life but thats not enoguh you need to play the game not just sheep marv nad come up with things I've seen you paly before and I know you're capable of helping village out please do so.
Wolves: Ketomai - I didn't like the way he responded to Round's case yesterday. He also has stated several times before that there was no case on him despite myself making a big case on him including a photo and everything which he ignored. I also don't see his reads evolving like I would expect a town's to evolve. I will be making a much larger case later but this is just a reads post. Chariman Ray - Vote on erradorr - IS MEGA SKETCHY you don't seemed concerned with solving the game. I will be doing a bit more on him later after Ketomai as well but want to keep this wall of text less wall more text.
Slam: I have no idea how you people are reading him. Exo: Don't really get a townread here and you gave no reasons for it. Explain? Me: Things on my own? Like my KotC read? I was scummy on him before marv. And I certainly won't stop sheeping marv if he keeps going after targets I agree on. MIF: What about their day2 was pretty good?
Rest is somewhat ok for me.
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But I really wouldn't be sad if all the people you painted red would be lynched at once. Noone I townread is in there.
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On June 16 2014 10:33 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 10:27 justanothertownie wrote:On June 16 2014 10:09 Tehpoofter wrote: Updating where my reads are atm on everyone.
Village: Tehpoofter Marv - obv, lock clear if he is a wolf we probably already lost Koshi - stepped it up considerably day 2 claiming vigi Roundabound - Casing my biggest wolf in ketomai, tone read on robik seems to be working on the village side Slam - sticking with my gut on slam probably least sure about this read ExO - Not use to the meta needs to step up more tonight/tomorrow if he wants to stay here he says he needs vote to analyse there has been plenty of that now ObiWanSmurf - Seemed to be following along at EoD and actively wanting to figure out who to kill actions seem to favor village. VA - Tried today a little bit seems to care at least moderately about the game and isn't just randomly throwing his vote on someone and afking for 48 hours Bunnies - replaced erradorr seems to have read up on the game and know where the thread is at. I find it hard for a wolf to replace into this spot and come out free talking like she is but her wolf game does fall off so look at her a bit tomorrow or the next day JAT - needs to stop sheeping marv only and find someone he thinks is wolf for his reasons. Lowest on the list because of a bit of weird interaction day 1 following marv's case on KoTC
People who could be villagers: TicaTica - pushed hard on Haru at EoD if yamato is wolf insta lynch if yamato village he is okay until his EoD day 2 he was in the village not too worried but not green green. Rainbows - Tunneled a village that I read as wolf so good line of thinking but could be wolf pushing on a village would like to see where his reads are now Kush - kush is a hard read sounds like we might not need to worry about what alignment he is after tonight but if he lives need some improvement on activity. Chromatically - was going strong day one but has ended up off the wagon voting wise would love to see him EOD doing things as well as sticking out a bit more to me. I had him as village pretty hard day 1 but starting to think Koshi might be GOAT and pegged you day 1. ritoky - a bit too lurky his read on me wasn't awful and I don't blame him for the read although I'd like to see him evolve his reads a little bit more I'm kinda worried of a wolf who is just tunneling on some people unlikely to die to seem involved.
People who need to talk about someone besides Kush: HF - Play the game your exam is over Kush is perhaps 1 of 5 wolves find the other 4 please.
[pink]People who need to not be donkies with their votes and instead of just afking during EoD actually participate and try to convince other people they're right or wrong for some reason and not just stick a vote on someone and do shit all else: Batsnacks - I think your comment about your vote is legit one of the silliest things I've ever heard someone say about their voting patterns. Its almost too dumb to come from a wolf but I would still lynch you for it. You need to participate in the votes if you're a villager your vote makes a BIG difference EoD and if the village votes on 2-3 wagons only its harder for wolves to manipulate and makes analysis after we see some flips VERY useful. If you just vote one person and no one else you're not helping village EVEN IF YOU HAPPEN TO BE RIGHT ABOUT THAT ONE PERSON!!!!!!!!!!!!! (I wish there was more colors so I could make you pink) [/pink]
Lurkers that need to post more presumed wolf until proven town: Would kill these people gumshoe - Day 1 played Day 2 went into full Afk mode step up or step out. Sandroba - You are suppose to be good, I don't see it afking as wolf is lame your play in catastrophe impressed me. (I will say this you live in brazil if I remember right so if you're involved in the world cup just tell us if that shit was where I live I wouldn't be playing this game I'd be off watching games and enjoying that once in a lifetime experience) SnB - was the day 1 counterwagon to a wolf I'm most hesitant about lynching you but you need to step up your game or you'll make me start thinking it was Vanilla wolf vs Power Wolf MattisFoolish - Foolish I expect more tbh the day 1 read on MZ was weak. Your day 2 EoD was pretty good but there is 2 of you and you're really not even doing what 1/2 a person would do. Matt Is also really bad at being a wolf so makes me a bit leery Sinani206 - I forgot you were in the game until I read the player list. I'm actually going to filter dive you after this and see where I end up you might be in the wrong spot tbh. yamato77 - Talked to you earlier you perked up for a bit and showed signs of life but thats not enoguh you need to play the game not just sheep marv nad come up with things I've seen you paly before and I know you're capable of helping village out please do so.
Wolves: Ketomai - I didn't like the way he responded to Round's case yesterday. He also has stated several times before that there was no case on him despite myself making a big case on him including a photo and everything which he ignored. I also don't see his reads evolving like I would expect a town's to evolve. I will be making a much larger case later but this is just a reads post. Chariman Ray - Vote on erradorr - IS MEGA SKETCHY you don't seemed concerned with solving the game. I will be doing a bit more on him later after Ketomai as well but want to keep this wall of text less wall more text.
Slam: I have no idea how you people are reading him. Exo: Don't really get a townread here and you gave no reasons for it. Explain? Me: Things on my own? Like my KotC read? I was scummy on him before marv. And I certainly won't stop sheeping marv if he keeps going after targets I agree on. MIF: What about their day2 was pretty good? Rest is somewhat ok for me. S I'm going to give you all the basis for my read on slam. HAs anyone ever heard of the site Epicmafia? Well that's where I got my mafia start 2 years ago. It's text based, semi forum-ish, except the entire game lasts like 30mins tops, and there are fifty million setups to play. No lie. And trolls. Trolls everywhere (including me on rare occasions that I feel like trolling the newbies). And with games going so fast, you rely on gut instinct, and whether or not you can read through the bullshit people present in those games (which I can do pretty damn well). So basically, the best way I can put it, Slam is like a five year old on epicmafia, trolling and spamming the shit out of chat and you have to read him and interact with him based off of that. So did you see how I interacted with him? I called him out, questioned his reads, and made him actually give me something I could work with instead of the spam nonsense he usually does. I basically talked to him like a teacher talks t a five year old (Sorry slam, but you know it's true). Based off of that is how I read slam. His reaction to me talking to him seemed townie. I hope this helps clarify things. Not really. I mean it is possible that you are telling the truth but I can't understand your read based on this. Also I have my doubts about your ability to figure him out if you never saw him play scum.
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On June 16 2014 10:34 Tehpoofter wrote: @EXO I will dive into your case a bit later and give you analysis for sure. Don't not play cause you don't having people commenting exactly. So what of my reads do you agree with most and least look what Jat did something like that would be cool
@Jat Slam is a guess plain and simple plus the taunting of wolves and some other stuff that probably means nothing but I thought meant something. Exo is reading as new to the system in a big game out of his comfort zone but not in a wolfy way like I don't feel like he has some chat telling him "hey try to do x or y that will be better" he seems alone aka village Jat you're in the village I'm sheeping marv too I just feel like if one of my towns is good enough to fool me as wolf its you. MiF: He at the EoD was excited about the wagons and I hope that means he is going to do some analysis and start posting more.... this does NOT mean I think he is village just that I saw a glimmer of hope in a shadow of darkness that was the rest of his game. Not amazed by this Exo read. Can't really follow it.
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On June 16 2014 10:40 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 05:57 Alakaslam wrote: C'mon scum double stack me
I can take you all on Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 05:58 27ninjabunnies wrote: Slam, I'm disappointed in you this game. I was reading you pretty townie d1, but you've slacked off.
Help me out here buddy.
Why are you town?? And who is the mafia? Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 06:00 Alakaslam wrote: I been gone
Just got here
Decided "forget these 20 pages what is happening now eh?" While waiting for someone in parking lot
"HIJOLE 5 MINUTES BANDWAGON"
Then drive
So
At least I didn fret modkilled. And I am town because (host) saw for for whatever reason.
I am unsure who is scum maybe VA
I see his frog and toad Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 06:04 27ninjabunnies wrote:
There are 5 mafia left, yes?
You gotta give me something better than VA.
But why VA?
Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 06:05 Alakaslam wrote: Yamato? I dunno shizzl
Va I told you I see his frog and toad Like I dont get how this interaction makes him town even on gut feel. And you are leading him as well; which OK maybe trying to goad him to make a reasonable response, but i cant follow this. Sorry. ~moc Yeah, bunnies seems to assume that slam is a retard if she is town. But he isn't.
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On June 16 2014 10:44 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 10:39 justanothertownie wrote:On June 16 2014 10:34 Tehpoofter wrote: @EXO I will dive into your case a bit later and give you analysis for sure. Don't not play cause you don't having people commenting exactly. So what of my reads do you agree with most and least look what Jat did something like that would be cool
@Jat Slam is a guess plain and simple plus the taunting of wolves and some other stuff that probably means nothing but I thought meant something. Exo is reading as new to the system in a big game out of his comfort zone but not in a wolfy way like I don't feel like he has some chat telling him "hey try to do x or y that will be better" he seems alone aka village Jat you're in the village I'm sheeping marv too I just feel like if one of my towns is good enough to fool me as wolf its you. MiF: He at the EoD was excited about the wagons and I hope that means he is going to do some analysis and start posting more.... this does NOT mean I think he is village just that I saw a glimmer of hope in a shadow of darkness that was the rest of his game. Not amazed by this Exo read. Can't really follow it. Its not incredibly strong but I feel like there are about 12 people I'd rather vote than him in this game. Fair enough I guess.
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On June 16 2014 10:44 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 10:42 justanothertownie wrote:On June 16 2014 10:40 roundabound wrote:On June 16 2014 05:57 Alakaslam wrote: C'mon scum double stack me
I can take you all on On June 16 2014 05:58 27ninjabunnies wrote: Slam, I'm disappointed in you this game. I was reading you pretty townie d1, but you've slacked off.
Help me out here buddy.
Why are you town?? And who is the mafia? On June 16 2014 06:00 Alakaslam wrote: I been gone
Just got here
Decided "forget these 20 pages what is happening now eh?" While waiting for someone in parking lot
"HIJOLE 5 MINUTES BANDWAGON"
Then drive
So
At least I didn fret modkilled. And I am town because (host) saw for for whatever reason.
I am unsure who is scum maybe VA
I see his frog and toad On June 16 2014 06:04 27ninjabunnies wrote:
There are 5 mafia left, yes?
You gotta give me something better than VA.
But why VA?
On June 16 2014 06:05 Alakaslam wrote: Yamato? I dunno shizzl
Va I told you I see his frog and toad Like I dont get how this interaction makes him town even on gut feel. And you are leading him as well; which OK maybe trying to goad him to make a reasonable response, but i cant follow this. Sorry. ~moc Yeah, bunnies seems to assume that slam is a retard if she is town. But he isn't. you think she is TMIing or just assuming too much? I have no idea - never played with her. But I am currently fine with her because she is actually playing.
On June 16 2014 10:45 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 10:42 justanothertownie wrote:On June 16 2014 10:40 roundabound wrote:On June 16 2014 05:57 Alakaslam wrote: C'mon scum double stack me
I can take you all on On June 16 2014 05:58 27ninjabunnies wrote: Slam, I'm disappointed in you this game. I was reading you pretty townie d1, but you've slacked off.
Help me out here buddy.
Why are you town?? And who is the mafia? On June 16 2014 06:00 Alakaslam wrote: I been gone
Just got here
Decided "forget these 20 pages what is happening now eh?" While waiting for someone in parking lot
"HIJOLE 5 MINUTES BANDWAGON"
Then drive
So
At least I didn fret modkilled. And I am town because (host) saw for for whatever reason.
I am unsure who is scum maybe VA
I see his frog and toad On June 16 2014 06:04 27ninjabunnies wrote:
There are 5 mafia left, yes?
You gotta give me something better than VA.
But why VA?
On June 16 2014 06:05 Alakaslam wrote: Yamato? I dunno shizzl
Va I told you I see his frog and toad Like I dont get how this interaction makes him town even on gut feel. And you are leading him as well; which OK maybe trying to goad him to make a reasonable response, but i cant follow this. Sorry. ~moc Yeah, bunnies seems to assume that slam is a retard if she is town. But he isn't. Actually, I hate the r word, so please don't use that. Also, i dont think that all. It's just how i get my reads. But it's obv all this is doing is discrediting me, so im just gonna shut up now. Continue with whatever, im gonna be afk from this game for awhile. Playing video maf tonight. In this case this word was exactly correct. I am not calling him one. I am not discrediting you at all I am trying to get a read on you and also I am generally curious because I will fully admit that I can NOT read slam.
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Isn't that just great they were warned. Host really showed them who is boss!
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On June 16 2014 10:55 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 10:52 justanothertownie wrote: Isn't that just great they were warned. Host really showed them who is boss! Whilst I agree. I said thank you because the outcome is now known. In fairnses, if 6 ppl were modkilled, the game could be over; or at the very least completely demotivating. Twas a hard choice to make. ~moc It was probably absolutely correct because Errandor also got away with it and because of what you said but it is annoying nonetheless. That many people not voting is completely unacceptable.
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On June 16 2014 17:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote: day 2 was really bad for town. nobody consolidated until the last second, and only at marv's say so. even though tica got his lynch (which was a miss) he only secured it because marv ultimately wanted it.
marv has such a ridiculous amount pull in the thread that if he dies, town is either going to be left in a ridiculously shitty position or is going to lose immediately. we need more people to step up and take control, because nothing happened at all until he showed up to the thread and everything that happened thereafter was based on reads made off of one or two posts.
we need to focus on four things: a) pressuring the people who were off both wagons. b) pushing our reads within reason c) looking to understand where other players are coming from instead of just looking for opportunities to attack each other. d) playing the game.
nobody really played well yesterday, and its not much of a surprise that we missed. im as willing to take the blame as any other player here who voted haru. i see a lot of people just sitting around, posting their reads and then doing precisely nothing with them/bickering with their scumread for pages upon pages. im playing like shit too, but i want to step up and do some things. we are hitting both extremes of the spectrum, and we need to focus on what were doing wrong in order to make sure we dont miss like that again.
if people want to stop playing and just do nothing, thats fine. mafia is likely hiding in the day 2 inactives/lazies because nobody did anything until the last second, and everyone seems to be totally fine with that. players that know better should also be under scrutiny for doing nothing/next to nothing and having town be totally fine with that. if you have nothing but excuses for doing nothing, then we lynch you/vig you because youre wasting a slot and making this impossible to play.
we really, really need to consolidate and understand where people are coming from too, before we hit 10 minutes before deadline. this is especially important for the people who are bickering at each other all game, since nobody but marv has any kind of following in the thread because people are either doing fuck all or just tunneling the shit out of each other.
im sure ill have some more stuff to say about the state of the town and what we can do to fix it tomorrow, but i cant think of anything else right now. call me out on whatever if you want/need to, but town is in kind of a weird spot in my opinion.
tldr: that was a bad lynch. lots of votes were useless. practically the only votes that wound up being useful were marv's and basically every single player that sheeped marv. i was about 10 seconds away from voting wrong too, so im holding myself accountable as well.
(also in hindsight i shouldve posted this during the day so i could follow it up with being more active, but w/e)
im sure holyflare already harped on it like 5 billion times since hes king purge-the-inactives but what he's saying holds true. This is a huge ass post on how shitty our situation is and how bad we all are. Complaining without really presenting a solution or even a single read. You sir just got a lot more scummy.
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Like you can almost post this post in every game of mafia. It is so general.
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On June 16 2014 11:35 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 10:27 justanothertownie wrote:On June 16 2014 10:09 Tehpoofter wrote: Updating where my reads are atm on everyone.
Village: Tehpoofter Marv - obv, lock clear if he is a wolf we probably already lost Koshi - stepped it up considerably day 2 claiming vigi Roundabound - Casing my biggest wolf in ketomai, tone read on robik seems to be working on the village side Slam - sticking with my gut on slam probably least sure about this read ExO - Not use to the meta needs to step up more tonight/tomorrow if he wants to stay here he says he needs vote to analyse there has been plenty of that now ObiWanSmurf - Seemed to be following along at EoD and actively wanting to figure out who to kill actions seem to favor village. VA - Tried today a little bit seems to care at least moderately about the game and isn't just randomly throwing his vote on someone and afking for 48 hours Bunnies - replaced erradorr seems to have read up on the game and know where the thread is at. I find it hard for a wolf to replace into this spot and come out free talking like she is but her wolf game does fall off so look at her a bit tomorrow or the next day JAT - needs to stop sheeping marv only and find someone he thinks is wolf for his reasons. Lowest on the list because of a bit of weird interaction day 1 following marv's case on KoTC
People who could be villagers: TicaTica - pushed hard on Haru at EoD if yamato is wolf insta lynch if yamato village he is okay until his EoD day 2 he was in the village not too worried but not green green. Rainbows - Tunneled a village that I read as wolf so good line of thinking but could be wolf pushing on a village would like to see where his reads are now Kush - kush is a hard read sounds like we might not need to worry about what alignment he is after tonight but if he lives need some improvement on activity. Chromatically - was going strong day one but has ended up off the wagon voting wise would love to see him EOD doing things as well as sticking out a bit more to me. I had him as village pretty hard day 1 but starting to think Koshi might be GOAT and pegged you day 1. ritoky - a bit too lurky his read on me wasn't awful and I don't blame him for the read although I'd like to see him evolve his reads a little bit more I'm kinda worried of a wolf who is just tunneling on some people unlikely to die to seem involved.
People who need to talk about someone besides Kush: HF - Play the game your exam is over Kush is perhaps 1 of 5 wolves find the other 4 please.
[pink]People who need to not be donkies with their votes and instead of just afking during EoD actually participate and try to convince other people they're right or wrong for some reason and not just stick a vote on someone and do shit all else: Batsnacks - I think your comment about your vote is legit one of the silliest things I've ever heard someone say about their voting patterns. Its almost too dumb to come from a wolf but I would still lynch you for it. You need to participate in the votes if you're a villager your vote makes a BIG difference EoD and if the village votes on 2-3 wagons only its harder for wolves to manipulate and makes analysis after we see some flips VERY useful. If you just vote one person and no one else you're not helping village EVEN IF YOU HAPPEN TO BE RIGHT ABOUT THAT ONE PERSON!!!!!!!!!!!!! (I wish there was more colors so I could make you pink) [/pink]
Lurkers that need to post more presumed wolf until proven town: Would kill these people gumshoe - Day 1 played Day 2 went into full Afk mode step up or step out. Sandroba - You are suppose to be good, I don't see it afking as wolf is lame your play in catastrophe impressed me. (I will say this you live in brazil if I remember right so if you're involved in the world cup just tell us if that shit was where I live I wouldn't be playing this game I'd be off watching games and enjoying that once in a lifetime experience) SnB - was the day 1 counterwagon to a wolf I'm most hesitant about lynching you but you need to step up your game or you'll make me start thinking it was Vanilla wolf vs Power Wolf MattisFoolish - Foolish I expect more tbh the day 1 read on MZ was weak. Your day 2 EoD was pretty good but there is 2 of you and you're really not even doing what 1/2 a person would do. Matt Is also really bad at being a wolf so makes me a bit leery Sinani206 - I forgot you were in the game until I read the player list. I'm actually going to filter dive you after this and see where I end up you might be in the wrong spot tbh. yamato77 - Talked to you earlier you perked up for a bit and showed signs of life but thats not enoguh you need to play the game not just sheep marv nad come up with things I've seen you paly before and I know you're capable of helping village out please do so.
Wolves: Ketomai - I didn't like the way he responded to Round's case yesterday. He also has stated several times before that there was no case on him despite myself making a big case on him including a photo and everything which he ignored. I also don't see his reads evolving like I would expect a town's to evolve. I will be making a much larger case later but this is just a reads post. Chariman Ray - Vote on erradorr - IS MEGA SKETCHY you don't seemed concerned with solving the game. I will be doing a bit more on him later after Ketomai as well but want to keep this wall of text less wall more text.
Slam: I have no idea how you people are reading him. Exo: Don't really get a townread here and you gave no reasons for it. Explain? Me: Things on my own? Like my KotC read? I was scummy on him before marv. And I certainly won't stop sheeping marv if he keeps going after targets I agree on. MIF: What about their day2 was pretty good? Rest is somewhat ok for me. What I think about your reads: Marv: Pretty much agree, though his day 2 is really strange to me. Gonna need to see his day 3. Koshi: Also agree though sometimes his posts can be...poorly worded? Still likely town Round: Don't have a really good read Slam: At the start of day 2 I was leaning mafia on slam. He was spammy, avoided the KotC wagon, and he was a part of the earlier SnB wagon that almost went through. Now I'm not so sure, I haven't really payed too much attention to his day 2 postings. So slightly leaning mafia, but just slightly Obi: Null VA: I have no idea what his alignment is but I find his spam to be unhelpful and annoying. I wonder if he actually finds himself funny or is just trolling. Null read, but I don't really like him. Bunnies: seems nice so far, but have no way of knowing yet JAT: JAT has been on my ass all game. I have no idea what I did to make him think I'm a wolf, but he has been pushing me for 2 days straight. My knee-jerk reaction is to say that makes him mafia, but I don't think I can do that. He could be town and just really think I'm mafia. So I'm leaning mafia on JAT, but I think my opinion might be biased. TicaTica: I get a town read off tica, really seems a lot like Koshi to me Rainbows: I know I should have more of an opinion on him, but he's null for me. I need to read a bit more about the discussion around him. Kush - Similar to VA, only more of a waste of space. I don't understand if he's town why he's trolling like this, so I'd say mafia or just somebody trolling and not playing to win. Lean mafia Chrom: Biggest scumread I've had all game ritoky: null HF: leaning town. I suspected him a little bit after day 1, but his day 2 play was alright. Looks townie to me Batsnacks: leaning town, but not by a lot. Gumshoe: Likely mafia. I'm not sure really what it is, but I think he's paying attention unlike the other lurkers. I think he's lurking mafia Sandroba: Null SnB: Null read, but if mafia had one guy nominated only for it to swing to KotC, that just sounds flat out horrible or extremely mind-gamey. So good chance of him being town, but based purely on his play it's a null read Mattisfoolish: also unsure. Sinani206: Leaning town, but he's very inactive it seems like. Could be lurking mafia, but I don't get that vibe from him as much. Yama: Day 1 was leaning mafia, but I think he's back in neutral ground for me. Ketomai: Perhaps I need to read his filter, but I've never really understood the super strong case for him being a wolf. I didn't really read his stuff closely but I didn't get really feel like he was a scum when he was first defending himself after being accused. I probably need to dive his filter and figure out just why a seemingly large portion of players here think he is scummy ChairmanRay: I agree. His play day 1 seemed wolfy to me, and the vote today seems wolfy. Likely Mafia. First of all that you think I of all people have been pushing you for 2 days straight seems very defensive to me. It is also not true. Many many nullreads. That's not scummy in itself but striking. You add a disclaimer to almost all your townreads. Even to marv. But Tica just gets a townread. Explain please. Yamato funnily pointed it out himself but how you can think his day2 was townier than his day1 is really baffling.
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On June 16 2014 19:48 marvellosity wrote: i didn't mind the post tbh. Do you think he did what he could to not let the things he complained about happen day2?
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On June 16 2014 19:51 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 19:51 justanothertownie wrote:On June 16 2014 19:48 marvellosity wrote: i didn't mind the post tbh. Do you think he did what he could to not let the things he complained about happen day2? no, but he accepted responsibility within the post too. Whatever. I don't like it. Let's see if he follows up accordingly.
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On June 16 2014 20:41 kushm4sta wrote: not voting is an huge town tell imo One might think so but it is not true. See YOSO for prove.
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There were 2 people not voting day1 and both were mafia.
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One of them repeated this on a later day and a third mafia did not vote on 2 days.
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On June 16 2014 20:49 kushm4sta wrote: also the thing about obiwanshinobis post, is it is so generalized that it makes it more likely coming from town, because scum trying hard would want to make their post more focused and pick a suspect. Does he seem tryhard to you?
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On June 16 2014 23:40 kushm4sta wrote: hf is such a massive hypocrite lol. vig plz Explain. If I see the last posts I would vig yamato.
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On June 16 2014 23:41 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 23:40 kushm4sta wrote: hf is such a massive hypocrite lol. vig plz and how is that so? Where are the reeeeeeeaaaaads?
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Ok, I will be leaving soon -> World Cup, yay!
Protective roles know what to do and Koshi... just shoot whoever you want. I still think it makes not much sense from your POV to shoot Kush if you don't have a scumread on HF (you should probably look closely at the stuff he will present). If you do however fire away - Kush said some really weak things today.
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Kush seems to go for too dumb to be scum right now.
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On June 17 2014 00:33 marvellosity wrote: Going to have to revisit Chromatically, I forgot he existed. Yeah, lol. That's the case with a few people actually (for me at least).
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On June 17 2014 00:39 marvellosity wrote: his posting looks reasonably natural and sufficiently diverse to me atm
after colouring in some random names on my spreadsheet, i'm kinda left with this sort of list:
ritoky/sandroba/mattisfoolish/Chairman Ray/strongandbig/ketomai/(holyflare)/(vayne)/(kush)/(ninjabunnies) Still not opposed to any of that although it is kinda mean to group bunnies with those 3. Can we just agree to lynch sandro if he doesn't deliver again?
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On June 17 2014 00:43 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2014 00:41 justanothertownie wrote:On June 17 2014 00:39 marvellosity wrote: his posting looks reasonably natural and sufficiently diverse to me atm
after colouring in some random names on my spreadsheet, i'm kinda left with this sort of list:
ritoky/sandroba/mattisfoolish/Chairman Ray/strongandbig/ketomai/(holyflare)/(vayne)/(kush)/(ninjabunnies) Still not opposed to any of that although it is kinda mean to group bunnies with those 3. Can we just agree to lynch sandro if he doesn't deliver again? well i didn't much like the Slam thing, and I didn't like her rainbows over haru thing either. yeah we probably need to kill sandroba if he doesn't deliver something I obviously agree with the slam thing. But it is also such a video mafia player thing to do somehow. Sorry HF, but you are too late. No way I manage to read this before I have to leave (right now). Later.
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On June 17 2014 03:22 roundabound wrote: 1. ObiWanShinobi - town 2. Koshi - town 3. ritoky - meh/maf 4. Rainbows - top town 5. justanothertownie - meh/town 6. sandroba - maf 7. ExO_ - meh/town 9. Erandorr replaced by 27ninjabunnies - town 10. sinani206 - meh/maf 11. kushm4sta - meh/maf 12. Tehpoofter - town? 15. Alakaslam - meh/meh 16. mattisfoolish (Foolishness/Mattchew Hydra) - meh/maf 17. gumshoe - meh/maf 18. Chairman Ray - maf 19. roundabound (Mocsta/IAmRobik Hydra) - Toppest town 21. strongandbig - maf 23. marvellosity - towny 24. Holyflare - meh/town 25. TicaTica - meh/meh 26. ketomai - maf 27. batsnacks - meh/meh 28. VayneAuthority - meh/maf 29. Chromatically - town 30. yamato77 - maf You already touched on this a bit but why is rainbows top town exactly? I don't see it at all.
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On June 17 2014 04:56 roundabound wrote: Ritoky, why are you building a stronger "case" against your null leaning scum reads than against your no bueno people/kill him with fire? Good question. The real scum and townreads are all pretty "easy" reads too.
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On June 17 2014 05:29 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2014 05:26 roundabound wrote: I read it. I don't get it. Does that mean kush was town? We don't know. He could have been town. Or he could have been mafia, and mafia are trying to cover it up. Wouldn't it make more sense for them to roleblock koshi instead of janitoring kush if kush was mafia? I mean they obviously were sure kush was the shot, no?
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On June 17 2014 05:34 27ninjabunnies wrote: Maybe JAT for his sheeping votes.
Maybe you for this bullshit.
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On June 17 2014 05:38 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2014 05:37 justanothertownie wrote:On June 17 2014 05:29 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 17 2014 05:26 roundabound wrote: I read it. I don't get it. Does that mean kush was town? We don't know. He could have been town. Or he could have been mafia, and mafia are trying to cover it up. Wouldn't it make more sense for them to roleblock koshi instead of janitoring kush if kush was mafia? I mean they obviously were sure kush was the shot, no? They used the rb n1 Oh, didn't know that was one-shot. Ignore me.
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On June 17 2014 05:41 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2014 05:37 justanothertownie wrote:On June 17 2014 05:29 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 17 2014 05:26 roundabound wrote: I read it. I don't get it. Does that mean kush was town? We don't know. He could have been town. Or he could have been mafia, and mafia are trying to cover it up. Wouldn't it make more sense for them to roleblock koshi instead of janitoring kush if kush was mafia? I mean they obviously were sure kush was the shot, no? Eh, not really. Koshi actually gave a few people that he wanted to shoot. Obi,kush, and some others. He was also open to other people's reads on who should be shot. Yeah, rb koshi prob would have been better for mafia is kush was mafia, so you might have a point, and kush might be town. if that is the case, and if kush was a role, mafia can easily claim it. so i'd be wary of claims. Just my opinion. My point was that they had to submit kush as janitor target, right? So they had to be sure he was the shot. And if Kush was a role mafia does not know which so they can't claim it.
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On June 17 2014 05:43 27ninjabunnies wrote: OH, RB is one shot?
<Need to read the OP better>
Using rb n1 though if its a one shot is super weird though, hf. Especially if it was used on you. Especially since mafia get better reads in later days on roles.
Unless you claimed a role and I missed it? Good point.
On June 17 2014 05:44 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2014 05:28 yamato77 wrote:On June 17 2014 05:23 marvellosity wrote: I'm betting a decent amount of money they have a vig And aren't shooting... why? It's a rather elaborate play to not use vig KP early just so you can janitor your own scumbuddy (kush) in order to hide/disguise the vig KP. i've been jailed twice. Then someone is doing his job.
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On June 17 2014 05:53 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2014 05:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On June 17 2014 05:41 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 17 2014 05:38 justanothertownie wrote:On June 17 2014 05:34 27ninjabunnies wrote: Maybe JAT for his sheeping votes.
Maybe you for this bullshit. I don't think it's bullshit. its pretty bullshit. also, lets kill foolishness. his case on gumshoe is awful and is completely out of character, and every single thing he accused gumshoe of doing, he himself is doing. we have no way of knowing the difference between the two, so why should we have listened to him at all? its fictional scumhunting and im totally willing to lynch him if he isnt doing anything. he also fits the profile of inactive mafia (surprisingly), so lets take him out. we lose nothing by killing him anyway since he doesnt seem to give a shit either. JAT is like a puppy dog, following his owner. The teeth of puppy dogs are pretty sharp. Just saying.
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On June 17 2014 05:58 marvellosity wrote: especially as i expressly told the thread how much more often town sheep me blindly(ish, don't be mad jat) than mafia.
Like i'm not just making that shit up. I sheeped you blindly day2. I won't deny that. Day1 is another story.
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On June 17 2014 05:59 marvellosity wrote: I really really really really really really want to kill mif/sandroba, but i have no idea how to divine the mafia between them. Sandro just needs to post and this will be easier hopefully. If he just doesn't show up again we need to kill him. This can't go unpunished.
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On June 17 2014 06:02 27ninjabunnies wrote: Whatever, I'll leave the sheeping alone.
I still don't like it, at all.
Making that known.
Also: ##Vote: Gumshoe Make it known all you want. Just because you don't like it does not mean it is scummy. If nobody was sheeping getting succesful wagons would be really hard as town.
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On June 17 2014 06:21 marvellosity wrote: i'm always ready to work together, i don't know why you'd think otherwise. Are you joking? You are the tyrant of this town.
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On June 17 2014 09:40 sandroba wrote: I'm here. I was hoping I would die so I wouldn't have to read. No such luck unfortunatelly =/ Can you give me some direction? Just read the thread completely and come up with stuff yourself please.
On June 17 2014 11:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote: is there any reason people dont want to kill mif?
i keep bringing him up and everyone is ignoring me. You are joking, right? I remember pushing him yesterday and I would absolutely kill him.
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On June 17 2014 16:31 roundabound wrote: Jat, who are you saving tonight? What kind of question is this? It is daytime and I think you know the answer anyways.
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On June 17 2014 16:31 roundabound wrote: we should coordinate our night actions Implying I am able to do any night actions.
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On June 17 2014 16:45 roundabound wrote: It's 12:43am in California and I am bored playing video mafia and I want to interact with someone. Too bad. It is 10 am here and I have a lecture in a few minutes.
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On June 17 2014 17:56 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2014 06:02 27ninjabunnies wrote: Whatever, I'll leave the sheeping alone.
I still don't like it, at all.
Making that known.
Also: ##Vote: Gumshoe thought this was hilarious It was and is hilarious.
On June 17 2014 18:23 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2014 18:01 roundabound wrote:On June 17 2014 17:54 marvellosity wrote: In any case, if anyone can rationalise those wagon fears over MiF for me, I'd love to kill him. but it makes me scared. I have like 30 possible reasons -- two which stand out being: a bunch of mafia were being voted on or mafia weren't around. Assumptions can make an ass out of you and me though. Oh, it's really tough to push against a wagon of a mafia teammate who isn't there. Mafia would get really self-conscious about it wondering if it would make them look scummy. Having said all that, MIF has managed to escape lynch twice then, so mafia did something right if MIF is maf. None of that sounds very convincing though. Mafia all just afk? We managed to be on a bunch of correct wagons? Well we know that's not true, we know that Haru flipped town and Haru was one of the 3-vote wagons at that time. I don't think it's that tough to push against a 5-vote wagon, you just push someone else who you're not pushing for being afk :/ I hate having to rely on rank incompetence in order for something to be true. And that's how it seems atm. Although it's definitely possible. Maf doing something right would in this case mean not trying to save their buddy in any way and hoping marv changes his mind based on this (even though he did not even begin to look like he would on d1 when the wagon was easy) The thing is: it was really hard to push this wagon. I remember quite a bit of resistance. Also there were 2 wagons that weren't far behind like you said yourself and it was still a while to go/you hadn't said anything yet - maybe mafia wanted to know where you stand first. AND there were many many people not even voting so if there is mafia in this group they likely couldn't push anything.
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I think how the wagons went down is absolutely not enough reason to let MIF off the hook. You might not want to assume incompetence but you also really shouldn't expect competence if you know what I mean.
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On June 17 2014 19:19 marvellosity wrote: 3 max votes on any other wagon though? when there's 5 mafia? ugh. The day wasn't over, there were many people not voting, they probably don't want to vote together and it's only one voteswitch off MIF or 2 votes on one of the others.
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On June 17 2014 19:20 marvellosity wrote: I still can't believe Koshi shot MZ. I can't believe many things he did this game.
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On June 17 2014 19:24 Holyflare wrote: There's the alternate theory that they're all town and mafia didn't have to do anything No shit. But it's not enough to assume the hydra is town considering their play this game.
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On June 17 2014 19:27 Holyflare wrote: Far far far more people wanted to kill mif rather than sandroba even though they all say sandroba is playing to mafia meta which kinda implies the obvious I don't know if there were far more people who said so. You for example were basically harddefending MIF -> doing the opposite thing.
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On June 17 2014 19:30 marvellosity wrote: I was mad. You showed that.
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On June 17 2014 19:36 marvellosity wrote: well the gumshoe/mif thing is still kinda awkward.
maybe s&b is the safer lynch after all. dunno. it's kinda tempting to give robik what he wants.
like life would be 100000000x easier if whoever is town out of that lot actually made a fucking effort and helped eliminate an option :/ Correct. The amount of inactive/not rying players is too damn high. They can't all be mafia.
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On June 17 2014 20:51 yamato77 wrote: I'm pretty sure Matt/Foolish would be more concerned about dying if they were town.
I know Foolish hated the way he got lynched in Shadow. Dunno if he'd just let that happen again. Well, while I think so too you can't ignore the fact that he basically gave up without a fight and let us lynch him in YOSO. Might have something to do with me and other people tunneling him all game though.
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And while I thought he did far less in YOSO than in the shadow game he is doing EVEN LESS in this one although we are talking about a hydra.
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On June 17 2014 11:01 sandroba wrote: You can lynch me if I don't pick up the pace okay, because I will. *yawn*
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On June 18 2014 00:27 Rainbows wrote: Just going to change back to keto because mif will probably get more votes naturally regardless. What is this nonsense...
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Btw. if sandro and MIF (or one of them) are mafia and we let them slide without contributing today we might aswell all stop playing this game.
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On June 18 2014 05:18 mattisfoolish wrote:Repost in here sorry Also found this gem: Show nested quote +On June 17 2014 11:01 sandroba wrote: Well I know I'm town and was busy and that's why I didn't read at all the past couple days. I don't know what's up with foolishness, if he is town I expect something good from him today. You can lynch me if I don't pick up the pace okay, because I will. I took a look at snb filter and he is a lurker too, so I see that it's become a problem and I'm sorry to be part of it. We will have to deal with it. I don't think snb should be priority though, as it's pretty rare for 2 mafia to be competing on the chopping block day 1. I would go with foolishness for now. I'm gonna take a look on the day 1 events after the koc push started, as I believe most of the good info should be there and I recomend people to do the same. ~Foolishness
On June 18 2014 05:22 mattisfoolish wrote:I'm just bringing it to light cause I'm pretty sure he's mafia and he's not going to show up later. ~Foolishness
On June 18 2014 09:56 roundabound wrote:Formatting Show nested quote +On June 17 2014 11:01 sandroba wrote: Well I know I'm town and was busy and that's why I didn't read at all the past couple days. I don't know what's up with foolishness, if he is town I expect something good from him today. You can lynch me if I don't pick up the pace okay, because I will. I took a look at snb filter and he is a lurker too, so I see that it's become a problem and I'm sorry to be part of it. We will have to deal with it. I don't think snb should be priority though, as it's pretty rare for 2 mafia to be competing on the chopping block day 1. I would go with foolishness for now. I'm gonna take a look on the day 1 events after the koc push started, as I believe most of the good info should be there and I recomend people to do the same. Its been over 24 hrs since this post came out. Need more from sandroba than this week, unsubstantiated stuff on 2 thread sentiment lynches ##Unvote ##Vote: Sandroba~moc You guys are sooooo helpful. It's not like I didn't already point exactly this line out ages ago. Is this seriously all you can come up with foolishness? This is hard to believe. Other comments will follow.
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On June 18 2014 10:46 batsnacks wrote: Gumshoe commented on a couple useless posts (Palmar's numbers post, a couple IRL stuff posts) which is scummy to me. But then there was that post where he thought there was a 3rd party in this game, which, I don't believe mafia would have made that mistake. Mafia, in the universe I am imagining, would have read the OP. Gumshoe isn't someone I'm going to vote for today. You would be surprised what mistakes gumshoe makes as mafia.
On June 18 2014 11:04 batsnacks wrote: So mafia list is roundabound, tehpoofter, sinani, bunnies, one of marv/holyflare, one of sandroba/mattisfoolish, maybe CR
Almost twice as many mafia reads as there are mafia. Does anyone want to convince me to remove someone from my list? What is this... where is the connection between HF/marv or sandro/foolish? Why one of them? Why can't sandro and MIF both be mafia?
On June 18 2014 11:58 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2014 11:25 batsnacks wrote:On June 18 2014 11:21 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 18 2014 11:17 roundabound wrote: Marv and holy shouldnt even be looked at until like f3. In fact, we should make it a missiom to have a hf/marv/me f3 if possible. That would be so much fucking fun
Also, remove bunnies. She doesnt sub in and kill banks Eh, HF could be mafia here. Im leaning more town, but I think as town he should have died by now? Idk. Also, no. We won't go to f3, cause mafia gonna get rekt! Also, correct read. What about marv? Well, marv did that lynch d1. I doubt mafia would bus that early. His play has lacked since then imo, but everyne deserves to be wrong once. I wouldn't lynch him today. Plus with his claim of protection, cant be sure anyway Why the hell would he fakeclaim being protected. If there is a jailer that person knows exactly that he is fakeclaiming. That's stupid. It tells us NOTHING about his alignment. He would have been protected as town or mafia.
On June 18 2014 14:18 Chromatically wrote: gumshoe is looking like a modkill, so that's probably not going to be an issue.
##Unvote ##Vote: sandroba You shouldn't EVER bet on a scummy lurker being modkilled. Especially not with gumshoe.
On June 18 2014 15:25 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2014 06:55 mattisfoolish wrote: ok so my buddy foolishness is correct, we think that sandroba is mafia, so marv, thats a fine vote right there if it said the right name.
secondly, gumshoe is probably mafia as well
i think obi is mafia, his posts during n2(?) were really really off putting to me, however my partnah disagrees and doesnt think so cause he's a silly willy
people who shouldnt be lynched until everyone else is dead include
marv, chrom, batsnacks, ticatica, round, CR, 27nb So, this is way more than sandro has done and hos list isnt terrible. It at least shows a semblance of paying attention and knowing whats going on. As I was tyoing that to say we shouldnt lynch MIF, I realized that thats probably even scummier than just not showing up like gumshoe is doing.Not sure if it is scummier than sandro promising in the thread to pick up activity and then disappearing though. The bolded is very very true.
On June 18 2014 17:04 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2014 08:20 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 17 2014 17:56 Holyflare wrote:On June 17 2014 06:02 27ninjabunnies wrote: Whatever, I'll leave the sheeping alone.
I still don't like it, at all.
Making that known.
Also: ##Vote: Gumshoe thought this was hilarious Hilarious how? If you are saying it's sheeping, it's not I agree gumshoe might be mafia here. this post is perhaps more hilarious than the first :D Yes. This is getting really ridiculous really quickly.
On June 18 2014 20:33 roundabound wrote: Wait, I dont think the JK matters. Scratch that. JK can still be on marv. Im an idiot -_-
On June 18 2014 20:43 Alakaslam wrote: Gumshoe/mattisfoolish now even So?
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If we don't lynch one of sandroba and MIF today I might go into serious rage-mode. I have seen nothing that makes them towny in any way.
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On June 18 2014 23:39 marvellosity wrote: Becalm your bazookas, that's what we're doing. ^_^
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On June 18 2014 23:47 yamato77 wrote: meeeeeeeeeeeh
I hate these lynches That's too bad.
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On June 18 2014 23:47 yamato77 wrote: meeeeeeeeeeeh
I hate these lynches
On June 18 2014 23:48 yamato77 wrote: ##unvote ##Vote: MattisFoolish Explain.
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I would have voted already but I really can't decide which one of sandro and MIF I want to kill more and it surprises me how few votes there are on sandro again. It somehow seems far easier to get a wagon on MIF going.
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On June 19 2014 01:54 marvellosity wrote: well i'm hoping sand is getting modkilled at this point so we can just kill them both and hedge our bets :p
I'm also kinda expecting sandroba to show up at some point though, at which point I hope there are enough people in the thread to make a decision on what he has posted so we can swing the wagon if needed. Dangerous. But ok, we can try that. Also Sandroba didn't really post scummy shit apart from the promises I don't think - he just didn't post anything and didn't even hide that fact. MIF on the other hand were somewhat active/posted and still produced NOTHING.
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On June 19 2014 02:09 TicaTica wrote: I don't see MILF as mafia. Sandroba's going to die regardless likely. CR was the only major thing that stuck out to me last night. His ketomai read was completely nonsense. Explain why you don't see them as mafia.
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On June 19 2014 02:16 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2014 02:09 TicaTica wrote: I don't see MILF as mafia. Sandroba's going to die regardless likely. CR was the only major thing that stuck out to me last night. His ketomai read was completely nonsense. can't even find a ketomai read in his filter? ... Did CR do anything last night?
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On June 19 2014 02:21 Holyflare wrote: How is the mif wagon "too easy" when it's not even a majority of the votes? My point is that it is much easier than sandroba. Exactly like yesterday. You even complained about that yourself man.
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On June 19 2014 02:25 Holyflare wrote: It seens to be super reluctant from what I'm seeing? Only reason people aren't voting Sandro is the modkill. Maybe. Maybe not. Whatever.
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On June 19 2014 02:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote: the marv wagon would be really hard to put together.
hes probably mafia. Great reasoning there bro. Sandros wagon is obviously hard because he is so town!
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On June 19 2014 03:01 27ninjabunnies wrote: I think ritoky is prob more maf than MIF is, tho im down with both.
MIF atleast has given thoughts, even if they show up at moments they are being pressured.
I would like you to prove this with examples. And I want you to tell me your opinion on those thoughts.
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On June 19 2014 03:10 roundabound wrote: My thoughts and prayers go out to my buddy mocsta.
RIP Australia World Cup 2014 RIP
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On June 19 2014 03:16 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2014 03:07 Chromatically wrote:On June 18 2014 14:26 batsnacks wrote:On June 18 2014 14:20 Chromatically wrote: I'm really sorry again that I can only drop a few posts before leaving, but it's really late for me and I this is my only opportunity for this right now. Leave questions for me if you have them and I can probably get them tomorrow morning. I'll make sure to step it up when I can. Why sandroba and not mattisfoolish? I think sandroba's promising contribution and then not delivering is worse than MF's limited contribution. Assuming he votes so that he doesn't get modkilled: sandroba gets back from his absence, says specifically that he'll look at the D1 votes and put something up, but then doesn't do anything until just before deadline? But since he hasn't posted anything since then, he probably is a modkill, so I'm down with a MF lynch. ##Unvote##Vote: mattisfoolish So suppose for the sake of argument sandroba is actually town and remembers the game an hour or two before deadline. He comes in and realizes if he doesn't vote he gets modkilled, and if he does we lynch him tomorrow. Would it be a "strategic modkill" and thus cheating if he just continues not posting and gets modkilled? I really hope townsandroba would be confident enough in his ability to convince us the next day to no do such a thing.
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On June 19 2014 03:22 Chromatically wrote: Yes it would be? Ideally he wouldn't have let it get to that point as town.
If he is town, in theory he should do townie stuff all of N3 so that we don't want to lynch him D4. But that is a reasonable point against lynching him today if he shows up. What?
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On June 19 2014 03:30 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2014 03:14 justanothertownie wrote:On June 19 2014 03:01 27ninjabunnies wrote: I think ritoky is prob more maf than MIF is, tho im down with both.
MIF atleast has given thoughts, even if they show up at moments they are being pressured.
I would like you to prove this with examples. And I want you to tell me your opinion on those thoughts. Do you know how hard that is from a phone. Read ritokys filter- its like 2 pages. He has a argument with another player- and then gives two posts of reads and afks again MIF, well he questions and talks about more people imo, though im not impressed with the fact my questions still havent been answered I m not talking about ritoky here. You are just saying they (MIF) question people but I don't remember them questioning ANYONE this game. They made a lazy and weak case on gumshoe and that is basically it. No questioning whatsoever. I don't have a townread on ritoky and it is irrelevant anyways but even this guy did talk more than MIF.
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On June 19 2014 03:35 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2014 03:30 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 19 2014 03:14 justanothertownie wrote:On June 19 2014 03:01 27ninjabunnies wrote: I think ritoky is prob more maf than MIF is, tho im down with both.
MIF atleast has given thoughts, even if they show up at moments they are being pressured.
I would like you to prove this with examples. And I want you to tell me your opinion on those thoughts. Do you know how hard that is from a phone. Read ritokys filter- its like 2 pages. He has a argument with another player- and then gives two posts of reads and afks again MIF, well he questions and talks about more people imo, though im not impressed with the fact my questions still havent been answered what questions? marv/JAT who should i vote on? MiF? Are you caught up with the thread?
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On June 19 2014 03:54 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2014 03:53 justanothertownie wrote:On June 19 2014 03:35 ritoky wrote:On June 19 2014 03:30 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 19 2014 03:14 justanothertownie wrote:On June 19 2014 03:01 27ninjabunnies wrote: I think ritoky is prob more maf than MIF is, tho im down with both.
MIF atleast has given thoughts, even if they show up at moments they are being pressured.
I would like you to prove this with examples. And I want you to tell me your opinion on those thoughts. Do you know how hard that is from a phone. Read ritokys filter- its like 2 pages. He has a argument with another player- and then gives two posts of reads and afks again MIF, well he questions and talks about more people imo, though im not impressed with the fact my questions still havent been answered what questions? marv/JAT who should i vote on? MiF? Are you caught up with the thread? nope, not enough time before deadline to read 27 pages or so Well, I think you are able to figure out who marv and me are voting. I won't tell you to vote someone else. Your call if you think this is the correct lynch.
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On June 19 2014 04:00 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2014 03:57 justanothertownie wrote:On June 19 2014 03:54 ritoky wrote:On June 19 2014 03:53 justanothertownie wrote:On June 19 2014 03:35 ritoky wrote:On June 19 2014 03:30 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 19 2014 03:14 justanothertownie wrote:On June 19 2014 03:01 27ninjabunnies wrote: I think ritoky is prob more maf than MIF is, tho im down with both.
MIF atleast has given thoughts, even if they show up at moments they are being pressured.
I would like you to prove this with examples. And I want you to tell me your opinion on those thoughts. Do you know how hard that is from a phone. Read ritokys filter- its like 2 pages. He has a argument with another player- and then gives two posts of reads and afks again MIF, well he questions and talks about more people imo, though im not impressed with the fact my questions still havent been answered what questions? marv/JAT who should i vote on? MiF? Are you caught up with the thread? nope, not enough time before deadline to read 27 pages or so Well, I think you are able to figure out who marv and me are voting. I won't tell you to vote someone else. Your call if you think this is the correct lynch. so are you telling me that you're not certain enough on it to say to me with any conviction it is the right lynch and i should be on board? I think this is the right lynch. But YOU are responsible for your vote. I won't let you sheep us here and tell us later how you didn't reeeeeallly want to lynch them should they be town somehow.
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On June 19 2014 04:03 Holyflare wrote: I literally just showed you all that foolishness posted in kther thread and not here very recently and you're still umming and ahhing Who are you talking to?
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On June 19 2014 04:05 roundabound wrote: Cause competing wagons is good for information, specifically voting analysis. We keep avoiding SnB, but lynching him would help solve the game no matter his role. This is why resolving wagons is a really really important thing for vigis to do. Our vigi is dead.
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And if you think there should be a second wagon noone is stopping you from starting one. But don't expect getting townread for that.
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On June 19 2014 04:08 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2014 04:06 justanothertownie wrote:On June 19 2014 04:05 roundabound wrote: Cause competing wagons is good for information, specifically voting analysis. We keep avoiding SnB, but lynching him would help solve the game no matter his role. This is why resolving wagons is a really really important thing for vigis to do. Our vigi is dead. yeah, no shit. unless we lynch SnB we won't know what was up d1. nevertheless, i was bringing up the SnB thing because I am trying to explain why we should have a 2nd wagon to MIF. If we unanimously vote him off, mafia can just jump on at any time and not look too shady doing so. They can do that too if there is another wagon? If MIF are town the people wasting their votes like sinani are scummy regardless.
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On June 19 2014 04:21 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2014 04:19 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 19 2014 04:15 TicaTica wrote: This will sound stupid but I feel better about not being on MILF. I mean I think he's town but maybe we get a repeat of day 1 if I stay off it. How does this even make sense? This sounds like a mafia not wanting to bus his partner and comes up with a shitty excuse as to why he isnt voting. Sounds more like mafia excuses for him being town ddespite evidence to the contrary. Probably. But to me it just sounds like useless, irrelevant bullshit and I don't get any read from it.
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On June 19 2014 04:22 Chairman Ray wrote: On now. Is there any chance to swing the vote another way before deadline? Looks pretty definitive, which also worries me. Depends. Where the fuck is marv?
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On June 19 2014 04:27 marvellosity wrote:Washing poop off my car. Then eating. Caught up?
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On June 19 2014 04:28 marvellosity wrote: had a quick skim, nothing was very exciting. unless i managed to miss something. Good.
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On June 19 2014 04:30 marvellosity wrote: people are just getting jittery at the deadline. we just stick it through like men. I just want to hold you responsible for this besides me. No excuses.
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On June 19 2014 04:33 marvellosity wrote: if both sand and mif are town, i'm going into mafia depression.
and not koshi's nancypantsy mafia depression, real masculine mafia depression. Yeah, I am almost fine with losing this if they are both town. I am not fine with losing to them if they are mafia.
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On June 19 2014 04:32 roundabound wrote: Rainbows,
Everything going according to plan my man. I'm almost soulbound to you. Hm?
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On June 19 2014 04:44 roundabound wrote: RIP Spain World Cup 2014 RIP
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Mocsta why are you only talking about the world cup and let your buddy do all the work? Is this lynch not interesting to you?
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On June 19 2014 04:47 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2014 04:46 justanothertownie wrote: Mocsta why are you only talking about the world cup and let your buddy do all the work? Is this lynch not interesting to you? lynching afkers isn't much fun Ok, do you disagree with the lynch though?
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On June 19 2014 04:48 roundabound wrote: U r correct jat
Now let me wqatch my game in peace It's 3.50am
~moc It is half time.
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On June 19 2014 04:49 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2014 04:48 justanothertownie wrote:On June 19 2014 04:47 roundabound wrote:On June 19 2014 04:46 justanothertownie wrote: Mocsta why are you only talking about the world cup and let your buddy do all the work? Is this lynch not interesting to you? lynching afkers isn't much fun Ok, do you disagree with the lynch though? The answer is in our filter Stop twitching thy ass ~moc Not really seeing it. Mind repeating yourself?
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I am bugging whoever I want and you won't tell me otherwise SSON. ^_^
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On June 19 2014 04:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Ffs. Why did you post this? Hm? Because I wasn't sure if Mocsta signed all his posts. Turns out he did and I misunderstood.
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On June 19 2014 04:54 roundabound wrote: marv will be able to confirm me as town shortly. Fine.
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On June 19 2014 05:02 Amiko wrote: (Waiting to confirm with sentinel whether he got any replacement before anyone is modkilled:3) You are joking right? It was announced not voting again today would result in modkill.
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What is this shit. Why are we arguing over bad behaviour while this is a thing. omg...
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I am fucking dissappointed. Those 3(4) should be ashamed. I mean I am not surprised about gumshoe but the others...
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I am getting something to eat. Fuck this game.
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On June 19 2014 05:25 marvellosity wrote: they'd be down to 1kp at 3 mafia. we need to get 2 lynches in a row right. What an easy task with this many lurkers remaining. /s
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On June 19 2014 05:27 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2014 05:26 justanothertownie wrote:On June 19 2014 05:25 marvellosity wrote: they'd be down to 1kp at 3 mafia. we need to get 2 lynches in a row right. What an easy task with this many lurkers remaining. /s it does at least give information, it's not totally useless. just requires looking at everyone again to make use of it, which isn't very appetising right now. I know. We should start with the people who showed no real interest in this lynch and still tried to appear somewhat active. But I can't be arsed to do so today.
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Mafia basically knew from the beginning of the day that we would lynch either MIF or sandro. They didn't need to do anything.
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On June 19 2014 05:30 justanothertownie wrote: Mafia basically knew from the beginning of the day that we would lynch either MIF or sandro. They didn't need to do anything. Even the only other recent wagon that was relevant (gumshoe) was town. Hmmm...
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On June 19 2014 05:40 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2014 05:37 roundabound wrote: Is someone about to call me mafia for trying to figure out the game? Is this real life? Is that even a real thing? i am just going to say this much: people, including you have been pushing hard on lurkers. 3 lurkers just died, all vt. after it flips, the majority of the next targets posted by people thus far are more lurkers. you might want to re-assess your stances on a lot of the people you just cleared. Hahahahahaha
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On June 19 2014 05:45 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2014 05:43 Chairman Ray wrote: I don't know if I can speak the same for you, but after that flip, I kinda just want the game to end. It must be a pretty good boost for anyone who's mafia though.
Also kind of fishy when you're the only one who's trying to figure the game out at the start of the night phase. You don't think that maybe the mafia might try to kill you for it?
So what if they do? How is that even a point? Don't play the game because mafia might nightkill you? Are you fucking serious? +1
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Weird how CR is attacking roundabout for it and the endresult is this question that implies town.
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On June 19 2014 15:25 Chromatically wrote: Is there some magical reason why so many people have cleared sinani? I don't have a particular problem with him, but I think it's weird (read: not scummy, but actually weird) that almost no one is pushing him compared to the other lurkers. I have no idea. Probably because people like marv said that it's his meta. He could very well be scum as far as I am concerned - all he does is chime in with unneccessary comments from time to time.
On June 19 2014 16:27 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2014 15:51 Chromatically wrote: I need to look more into ExO, I thought he was town earlier but then he totally dropped off.
Right now CR and ritoky are my top reads. I'm keeping up with the thread, but right after I got active it seemed like the game went downhill. Yesterday was a disaster :/ You aren't seriously justifying going inactive with this are you? Also you responded to this pretty quickly.
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On June 19 2014 11:26 yamato77 wrote: Well, I can write off geript as town. Why? Do you think this is his townplay? I don't think being scum would make him like you suddenly, right?
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On June 19 2014 20:35 yamato77 wrote: My pool of players I don't want to lynch tomorrow is too small.
Going to have to add some names for this to go well. Same. I think currently I don't want to lynch those players tomorrow (for possibly very different reasons):
Obi, slam, round, marv, HF, Vayne, Chrome. Maybe rainbows, maybe yamato. Rest is fair game.
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On June 19 2014 22:09 marvellosity wrote: Rainbows pretty townie. Still think batsnacks pretty townie.
Not sure why VA is on your townlist? I never said this was a townlist, did I?
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And considering you thought this was a townlist why do you have no problem with slam being in there?
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On June 19 2014 23:21 roundabound wrote: Not that I'm reading into it or anything, but generally a list of people not to lynch is a town list. I can see why marv might have come to that conclusion. Can you explain which non-town are in that list? If I knew there was non-town in that list that person wouldn't be in that list.
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You might aswell use your brain. It is a list of people I would not lynch tomorrow. This includes crapshoots like Vayne and slam which I don't town OR scumread.
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It is really not that hard to understand.
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On June 19 2014 23:53 sinani206 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2014 23:50 VayneAuthority wrote: well I figured with 8 blue roles I would have something to analyze eventually but that is not happening for whatever reason What does that even mean What is there not to understand?
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On June 20 2014 01:59 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2014 01:58 Alakaslam wrote: As far as solving the game; I have tried to make my own alignment clear. Believe it or not. you have to me it's cool Oh really?
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Why is ketomai still in this game? Guy hasn't posted for 3 days straight.
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On June 20 2014 03:41 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2014 15:34 TicaTica wrote: I'll be reading for the next hour or two to catchup and reread. If anyone has requests to read you can post them here. 11 hours between catching up for an hour or two and returning and returns to say: Show nested quote +On June 19 2014 02:09 TicaTica wrote: I don't see MILF as mafia. Sandroba's going to die regardless likely. CR was the only major thing that stuck out to me last night. His ketomai read was completely nonsense. Show nested quote +On June 19 2014 04:15 TicaTica wrote: This will sound stupid but I feel better about not being on MILF. I mean I think he's town but maybe we get a repeat of day 1 if I stay off it. foolishness was posting in other threads instead of this, he looked mafia-y and there was no real reason to think otherwise! comes out of the blue and says he's probably town and he's better not on him??? lynch plox Not terribly opposed to this.
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On June 20 2014 03:46 Holyflare wrote: ritoky also did shitty suspicious "marv/jat who do i vote" after not being around the entirety of the day and has pushed chrom and nobody else for like 4 days straight which is ridiculous, mafia don't update their reads. This is even worse now that we know that basically all the targets we would have given him were town.
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What's really scummy about ritoky is also how strong his chrom read seems to be. I have serious trouble believing it and even if he was this sure there are still several other mafia to catch.
Gonna reevaluate this mess tomorrow. Maybe the nightkills help a little.
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On June 20 2014 04:10 roundabound wrote: what's happening with ketomai? Probably nothing. Didn't find any rule for this in the OP.
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All those people returning only when called out this game...
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Well, Holy will have to drown some sorrows at this rate.
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On June 28 2014 05:22 Palmar wrote: lazy town! Indeed.
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On June 28 2014 05:26 Holyflare wrote: Not just that, ritoky faked claim the lynch off of mafia trying to get it onto town. Gj. ...
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You scummy bastards should have gone through with doublestacking marv ^_^
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Chill slam. It wouldn't have mattered anyways. Town would never have lynched all 4 of them at this point. The haru lynch was awful, there were too many townies that just flat out refused to play the game and on top of all this we have ritoky handing mafia the game. There wasn't a chance for town to recover from all this.
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Haha, I knew you guys thought I was the jailer.
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On June 28 2014 06:13 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2014 06:08 justanothertownie wrote: Chill slam. It wouldn't have mattered anyways. Town would never have lynched all 4 of them at this point. The haru lynch was awful, there were too many townies that just flat out refused to play the game and on top of all this we have ritoky handing mafia the game. There wasn't a chance for town to recover from all this. Ritoly didn't hand mafia the game there were townies who figured out that he was town Anyone who didnt wasn't trying And if you're talking about "refusing to play the game" it's the fault of the spammers who make the game way too difficult to keep up with And you really think this justifies sandros/MIFs play? Or gumshoes? Seriously dude, if the spam is too much for you don't join the game. Join minis or games with post restrictions.
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On June 28 2014 06:39 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2014 06:18 justanothertownie wrote:On June 28 2014 06:13 strongandbig wrote:On June 28 2014 06:08 justanothertownie wrote: Chill slam. It wouldn't have mattered anyways. Town would never have lynched all 4 of them at this point. The haru lynch was awful, there were too many townies that just flat out refused to play the game and on top of all this we have ritoky handing mafia the game. There wasn't a chance for town to recover from all this. Ritoly didn't hand mafia the game there were townies who figured out that he was town Anyone who didnt wasn't trying And if you're talking about "refusing to play the game" it's the fault of the spammers who make the game way too difficult to keep up with And you really think this justifies sandros/MIFs play? Or gumshoes? Seriously dude, if the spam is too much for you don't join the game. Join minis or games with post restrictions. Not sandro's But spamming and then callin people who can't keep up "lurkers" and lynching them hurt town this game and I want people to see that So what do you propose? Never touch lurkers? Just let them do their thing until it is lylo? If you can't keep up don't play the game and don't complain if you get lynched for not playing.
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On June 28 2014 06:49 Koshi wrote: I got so much shit for my Chrom read. So much shit.
Fuck you all. retards. I will apologize to you if you stop scumreading me every game when we are both town. ^_^
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On June 28 2014 07:07 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2014 06:55 justanothertownie wrote:On June 28 2014 06:49 Koshi wrote: I got so much shit for my Chrom read. So much shit.
Fuck you all. retards. I will apologize to you if you stop scumreading me every game when we are both town. ^_^ No. You can go to hell. I make some fucking reads. they aren't perfect obviously but at least 4 of you go: "omg Koshi his reads are such bullshit, really what a pile of garbage" WHILE I AM ON FUCKING SCUM. LIKE. THE CASE WAS 100% LEGIT. I MAKE A FUCKING META CASE AND ALL ON CHROM IN MY FIRST 2 POSTS. Then somewhat later: I say that HF faked the RB and that MZ got RB because he wanted to shoot Kush. YOU CALL ME FUCKING SCUM FOR NOT VOTING HF. I don't think I called you scum for it but the fact remains that the logical vote would have been HF. I also still think your post was pretty unkoshilike and bad overall even if you were right on chrom.
I said shooting Kush only makes sense if you also have a scumread on HF which it seemed you did in the end (good job) so I was fine with it. We should have revisited this later though ignoring it was definitely a mistake.
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On June 28 2014 07:27 Tehpoofter wrote:
Sorry Ketomai for tunneling you so hard. I'm shocked JaT wasn't a role I was trying to call him scummy cause he felt like a role to me so much. I did my best to soft jailkeeper to take a bullet and get out of this horrible game.
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On June 28 2014 07:31 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2014 07:29 justanothertownie wrote:On June 28 2014 07:07 Koshi wrote:On June 28 2014 06:55 justanothertownie wrote:On June 28 2014 06:49 Koshi wrote: I got so much shit for my Chrom read. So much shit.
Fuck you all. retards. I will apologize to you if you stop scumreading me every game when we are both town. ^_^ No. You can go to hell. I make some fucking reads. they aren't perfect obviously but at least 4 of you go: "omg Koshi his reads are such bullshit, really what a pile of garbage" WHILE I AM ON FUCKING SCUM. LIKE. THE CASE WAS 100% LEGIT. I MAKE A FUCKING META CASE AND ALL ON CHROM IN MY FIRST 2 POSTS. Then somewhat later: I say that HF faked the RB and that MZ got RB because he wanted to shoot Kush. YOU CALL ME FUCKING SCUM FOR NOT VOTING HF. I don't think I called you scum for it but the fact remains that the logical vote would have been HF. I also still think your post was pretty unkoshilike and bad overall even if you were right on chrom. I said shooting Kush only makes sense if you also have a scumread on HF which it seemed you did in the end (good job) so I was fine with it. We should have revisited this later though ignoring it was definitely a mistake. Come on. I have them both as scum and Kush could have happened at that time. As if I can push HF for pure speculation... Kush could have happened but you wanted to vigi him. Why did you not say this then? My problem at that time was that you didn't really seem to have a strong scumread on HF.
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Yeah, I still stand by that. You had a theory (turned out to be true) that relied on HF being scum and pushed for Kush instead. Made no sense to me and I don't remember you saying you did this because you didn't think you could get HF lynched. I also never called you scum for it.
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