*WARNING* SCUM AHEAD *WARNING*
Some scums have the habit of reading the situation too hard. Some choose to have selective reading. NONE of Rainbows' points are valid at all. Why, you ask? Because, all the quotes he pulled out from my filter had been accounted for. EASY. Lets go through his 'read' on me one by one.
On June 14 2014 07 :08 Rainbows wrote:So I haven't read really anything that happened during the night. Only guy I'm surprised didn't die is Marv, but I'll assume that mafia are medic dodging. But here is scum. I noticed after he voted me so I wanted to figure out why. Haru is mafia This post here: Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 21:11 HaruRH wrote:On June 11 2014 20:46 yamato77 wrote:I'll quote Ver's analysis RE: VA -I don’t think I’ve verbalized my intuition fully on Vayne so here goes: Terrible filter, fits mafia profile (deduced from atmosphere/limited interference in lynches) exactly. Ever present but barely playing. Constantly complains about the thread quality but spends all of his time talking about blue roles and irrelevant nonsense, which is a massive incongruency. Caller’s point quoted above is also very good.
And what has he done so far this game? On June 11 2014 07:20 VayneAuthority wrote:
alrighty well the thread is already too long so I just skipped it, I assume its mostly early game spam. I'll start reading from this point on.
On June 11 2014 09:59 VayneAuthority wrote:
this game is giving me a migraine ill let you know when i start reading it again While I agree with the sentiment expressed, it's still the same sort of hypocritical nonsense that Ver so accurately pointed out. VA as mafia loves to complain and argue about pointless shit. VA as town would have just posted what he thought about someone/something, right or wrong, and been done with it. Of course, it's only two posts, but it's a solid lead. ##Vote: VayneAuthorityI'll be looking at Koshi and Chairman more in depth soon. I think they are town, but there is sentiment expressed that this is not the case, and I wish to solve the matter. Uh.... you seemed to miss the point. Ver used BOTH points as a combination of factors. Even if VA is about to turn into a blue post craping whore, the truth is he haven't. You either jumped the gun too early, or you are trying to shoot him before he turned, which leads into 2 outcomes : 1) He WILL turn 2)You are just trying to shoot for the heck of it. On June 11 2014 20:52 yamato77 wrote:On June 11 2014 20:46 Holyflare wrote:The pressure votes, overwhelming. + Show Spoiler + Oh yeah, by the way, this is exactly what mafia Holyflare does. He afks for most of the early game, and then comes in later with all his tryhard worked up. See Survivor for a perfect example. I theorize that he does this as mafia because he finds it difficult to post early on as mafia (which is a tricky thing to do convincingly), so he just skips it, takes the heat for being afk, and then makes up for it with his ability to post long posts full of reasonable-sounding things later on. He could be legitimately busy, but his posts show he's obviously reading the thread, just not actively participating. Regardless of the manner of his return, he is definitely up there in terms of mafia candidates for this sort of play, simply given his history with this exact pattern. Uh... stop? On June 11 2014 20:53 yamato77 wrote:On June 11 2014 20:49 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 20:46 yamato77 wrote:I'll quote Ver's analysis RE: VA -I don’t think I’ve verbalized my intuition fully on Vayne so here goes: Terrible filter, fits mafia profile (deduced from atmosphere/limited interference in lynches) exactly. Ever present but barely playing. Constantly complains about the thread quality but spends all of his time talking about blue roles and irrelevant nonsense, which is a massive incongruency. Caller’s point quoted above is also very good.
And what has he done so far this game? On June 11 2014 07:20 VayneAuthority wrote:
alrighty well the thread is already too long so I just skipped it, I assume its mostly early game spam. I'll start reading from this point on.
On June 11 2014 09:59 VayneAuthority wrote:
this game is giving me a migraine ill let you know when i start reading it again While I agree with the sentiment expressed, it's still the same sort of hypocritical nonsense that Ver so accurately pointed out. VA as mafia loves to complain and argue about pointless shit. VA as town would have just posted what he thought about someone/something, right or wrong, and been done with it. Of course, it's only two posts, but it's a solid lead. ##Vote: VayneAuthorityI'll be looking at Koshi and Chairman more in depth soon. I think they are town, but there is sentiment expressed that this is not the case, and I wish to solve the matter. you're completely missing the 2nd half of Ver's analysis, i.e. spending all his time talking about roles and other shit, which is the massive incongruency, and the incongruency is why he was mafia. That incongruency doesn't exist here because he's not doing anything else either. So using Ver to back up your read is pretty dodgerific I really have no interest in your opinion. Stop. On June 11 2014 20:53 yamato77 wrote:On June 11 2014 20:53 Holyflare wrote:I have law exams that end tomorrow yamato  That doesn't mean you aren't mafia anyway. I really mean it, stop. On June 11 2014 20:56 yamato77 wrote:On June 11 2014 20:53 marvellosity wrote:
then you're still fucking terrible. There still exists an incongruity. Vayne is complaining about the quality of the game yet is actually making it worse with the way he posts. Vayne's towngame does not consist of complaint posts. He doesn't care about the state of the thread when he's town. He just plays the game. I'll quote Ver's analysis RE: VA -I don’t think I’ve verbalized my intuition fully on Vayne so here goes: Terrible filter, fits mafia profile (deduced from atmosphere/limited interference in lynches) exactly. Ever present but barely playing. Constantly complains about the thread quality but spends all of his time talking about blue roles and irrelevant nonsense, which is a massive incongruency. Caller’s point quoted above is also very good.
MASSIVE INCONGRUENCY. On June 11 2014 21:04 yamato77 wrote:On June 11 2014 20:59 Holyflare wrote:On June 11 2014 20:56 yamato77 wrote:On June 11 2014 20:55 Holyflare wrote:On June 11 2014 20:53 yamato77 wrote:On June 11 2014 20:53 Holyflare wrote:I have law exams that end tomorrow yamato That doesn't mean you aren't mafia anyway. Silly sausage! If i don't post it's because i have a reason  We'll see. Well no because now if i return with try hard you will say "see! Classic mafia". If i don't you'll say "he doesn't care, classic mafia!" If you're going to use meta don't use unequivocally wrong ones. Or you can just be mafia and continue with it. If you don't have time to play, then why are you arguing with me about your alignment right now? I don't have to believe your reasons for your inactivity. And no, my analysis of your play so far involves no catch-22, because your being afk as mafia happens exclusively in the early game. Later in the game, you obviously play legitimately. You might be afk early on as town and then come back and play legitimately. But noting the pattern is important because it's a 30 player game, so I need to narrow my focus down to a small enough range of people to where I really don't have to analyze every post. ... On June 11 2014 21:04 yamato77 wrote:
tl;dr I'm watching you, HF I'M WATCHING YOU YAMATO. is scummy to high heavens. Does he do an analysis of yamato based on his play? No. Is he discerning his alignment? Doesn't appear to. All he says is 'stop that' and that he's watching Yamato. What is the purpose of this post from a townie perspective? The only thing I could think of is pressure--but it harasses a player without any insight of what side he is playing for. Haru isn't trying to convince anyone that Yamato is mafia, so there is no town purpose to this post.
??? You mean, by replying to someone whos shitposting, I have to have an agenda? :O
On June 14 2014 07:08 Rainbows wrote:After these jabs at Yamato, he votes for CR here: Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 18:42 HaruRH wrote:On June 11 2014 18:36 marvellosity wrote:On June 11 2014 12:51 Rainbows wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 11 2014 09:20 Chairman Ray wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2014 08:53 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 11 2014 08:51 Koshi wrote:
I voted Tica because I dislike him more. More words does not equal bigger scumread.
I still think my post was pretty good. Reason:
I think my towns are town.
My questionables good pressures points.
I will continue my quest tomorrow.
His recent posts backing up your wolf lean on him? How do you feel about Marv/Sandroba/JaT not liking your post at all? You think thats alignment indicative for any of them? Also You're doing a poor job of try harding if you make one post a day. Please don't go Cephiro mode on me. If Koshi is heading out for the night, I'm just gonna chime in now. Koshi's big analysis post reads pretty scummy to me. His mafia reads seem pretty sincere and thought out, but his town reads are very short. Whether or not he believes them himself is not evident, but it doesn't convey much to the reader. My initial thinking is that his townreads serve to 'bulk' up his post. I've seen a lot of mafia in previous games iterate through people and give a quick impression of them without a well thought out read on them. This gives the impression that they are active and their posts are longer without actually having to do a lot of investigation. What strikes me odd was his next post: Koshi posted this in response to the people that were dismissive of his reads. This is a very important distinction because people react differently when they are opposed by analysis and when they are opposed by a one liner. In this case, most people just posted a quick one liner dismissing him. From Koshi's perspective, if he just gave out a few quick impressions without a lot of thought, he wouldn't have any sort of attachment or loyalty to his post. His response to the critics would be something like "Those were just my gut feelings at the moment, they may change by the end of the day". Instead, he dismissed the critics with a one liner post containing no new information by posting "No sorry my towns are town". It may be hard to read into on forum mafia, but to me he sounds a bit frustrated and doesn't feel his critics doesn't deserve any more than a one liner. If this is the case, then Koshi has some genuine belief of his townreads, and regardless of the quality of his reads or how he conveyed them, this seems more town to me.tl;dr I disagree with Koshi's townreads, even though I am among them; I disagree with Sandroba that Koshi is mafia. I don't get CR's goal with his postings. he comes to no conclusion, just that some post made koshi scummy but his next post made him more town. So is he mafia or town for CR at this point? I care not that CR is posting intelligently (this is a good thing!!!), but there's a bunch of text with seemingly no bite involved atm yes, i agree with this i think. I read through 30+ pages of 'stuff' and the huge post by koshi and the reads off koshi's posts were striking to me.
CR seems like trying to earn some towncred by pointing out koshi first, so that in the future he can use this as a reference to how towny he is.Town totem: Chrom, batsnacks. Everyone else is hard to read. They make towny posts, then destroy their own image by making themselves look scummy. Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote:
gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me? I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch. I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it.
All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh.
My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch. ##Vote:Chairman Ray My problem arises with the bolded. Just read it over, slowly. Does it make any sense whatsoever? Apparently, it seemed as if CR is attacking Koshi in order to gain towncred LATER in the game? I don't think this analysis makes any sense whatsoever. What townie in this game came to that same conclusion, please tell me. I didn't. "Oh, CR must be attacing Koshi first so he can use it as towncred later" WHAT? CR was scummy, but not for this reason at all. The reference to his Koshi vote as a 'placeholder' is additionally acts as a buffer for scrutiny. *assume koshi flips town at some point* "Why were you voting Koshi D1?" "Oh it was just a placeholder no worries!"
Can Haru use another of his post to explain this post? Sure he can.
On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote:
gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me? I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch. I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it. All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh. My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch.##Vote:Chairman Ray
On June 14 2014 07:08 Rainbows wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 18:00 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 17:55 Palmar wrote:
Very sneaky voting man this Haru. I thought I said the vote on CR from me was a placeholder? SnB have some weird posts, will link them here in one sec, Filter dived him today. So now CR is a placeholder vote? Scummy as balls.
Can Haru still use another post of his to explain?..... Sure he can.
On June 12 2014 05:43 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 05:40 Koshi wrote:On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote:
gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me? I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch. I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it. All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh. My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch. ##Vote:Chairman Ray CR defended me from the get-go. The posts he made around me were also extremely thought out. If you are referring to him saying my post looked scummy than that is because he actually thought it looked scummy. But after that he gave reasons to why he thinks I am town. If I remember correctly from a previous game CR is capable to make big thought out post as scum, but he is more disconnected with the thread while doing so, he just pops in with huge ass posts. In this game he is having good thought out opinions in the moment. I wouldn't lynch him. Those other 2 names in your post, Rainbows and TicaTica, those are the people that are interesting. Meta argument is something I cannot push upon since I don't know much about anyone yet. So I'll just assume that koshi is correct about CR's play. I'll stay with this vote until someone more scummy pops out.
On June 14 2014 07:08 Rainbows wrote:Then he provides shoddy reasoning for calling snb scum. Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 18:05 HaruRH wrote:After diving SnB, I realised the pool is so shallow theres no need to bring a snorkel. So here's why SnB makes me wanna lynch the scum out of him: On June 11 2014 23:41 strongandbig wrote:
Finished reading through page 48 on phone
Have to go to work
Some notes to calm thy tits, thread:
Townish:
- chromatically
Scummish:
- palmar not trying on day 1
- koshi for pretty random townreads and listpost
- rainbows bad reasoning for scum read on koshi. Tries to make something shitty up, indicates he's not comfortable just agreeing with good reasoning already posted - indicates selfconscious mafia.
Good args:
- chromatically on why sinani is scum
- mz on why round is scum
- koshi on why tica is scum
- (sort of good) round on why ketomi is scum On June 12 2014 04:55 strongandbig wrote:
Blergh caught up with the thread and lunch is over
[complain about spam, maybe if I do it more it's likely to work]
Anyway, I would kill koshi right now. Don't have anything new to add, I like chromatic ally's case
Also would still kill rainbows soo... He thinks koshi makes good arguments, then want to lynch koshi. On June 12 2014 04:17 strongandbig wrote:On June 11 2014 13:31 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 13:26 Chairman Ray wrote:On June 11 2014 13:23 batsnacks wrote:
Chairman, without reading the above post, I really wish both your posts about me weren't perfectly sequential dissections of literally everything I said. Sorry, I'll try to keep it brief from now on. You can just read the "Overall" statement at the end Look I like everything you said I think it's great. I read the whole thing. You got an A+ on your homework for sure. I really, really, really hate that you commented on everything I said in the order I said it in both posts though. If you are mafia which I think you probably are, that's the only thing you should have changed to make it better. This is stupid. There's nothing wrong with an in-depth post by post analysis and the fact that newer players don't know this is just a sign of how spammy and annoying the meta has gotten . Then he shitposts. It's interesting that Haru calls my reasons for voting SnB terrible, but in the same breath can post something like the above with almost no analysis whatsoever. It reaks of keeping doors open.
Looks like rainbows need to cool down with a cute rap from me
On June 12 2014 20:57 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 20:47 marvellosity wrote:On June 12 2014 20:43 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 20:31 marvellosity wrote:
by and large Haru was very earnest and straightforward in Detention (as well as kinda fun at the start), whereas i'm not really seeing any of that here. So you're meta-ing me based on 1 game? Lol thats the reason why I'm changing now, to avoid further meta reads. Not going to streamline my play into 1 category lol well if i thought you had been at all useful besides, the meta wouldn't matter... Hey marv if you wanna meta me, you need to re-read my posts to even use it as meta Heres a short little rap by me to show you what I mean Show nested quote +On May 27 2014 12:07 HaruRH wrote:On May 27 2014 12:02 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 27 2014 12:01 HaruRH wrote:On May 27 2014 11:59 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 27 2014 11:56 HaruRH wrote:On May 27 2014 11:54 jabberwockzerg wrote:
Delicately, must I awkwardly introduce all of my posts and then just get on with them I think that doing anything else other than leaving the subject as it is will make you an even likelier target for scrumm. Change the topic quickly I dont understand how this post had anything to do with what my case was on him? Nothing to do with it at all, just a crap post with no meaning other than for jabber to not feel so awkward with every post he makes To me, it seemed as if you were coaching him to change the topic in order to get pressure off of him. Why would you want to do that? I play with no targets in mind For the first day where it is still fun I only suspect But I do not attack I will not paint a target on the first day Because tails only show at night And thus we can hang those who Are deduced to be one next day No need to pressure in the first day, in my view Lynching him is still our aim, thus I will
On June 14 2014 07 :08 Rainbows wrote:WARNING, SCUMMIEST POST IN THREAD INCOMING:+ Show Spoiler +On June 12 2014 21:18 HaruRH wrote:Heck, I'll even help you make a huge post on why we should all lynch Haru. Firstly, this haru guy don't even Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote:
gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me? I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch. I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it. All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh. My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch. ##Vote:Chairman Ray contribute Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 05:43 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 05:40 Koshi wrote:On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote:
gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me? I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch. I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it. All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh. My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch. ##Vote:Chairman Ray CR defended me from the get-go. The posts he made around me were also extremely thought out. If you are referring to him saying my post looked scummy than that is because he actually thought it looked scummy. But after that he gave reasons to why he thinks I am town. If I remember correctly from a previous game CR is capable to make big thought out post as scum, but he is more disconnected with the thread while doing so, he just pops in with huge ass posts. In this game he is having good thought out opinions in the moment. I wouldn't lynch him. Those other 2 names in your post, Rainbows and TicaTica, those are the people that are interesting. Meta argument is something I cannot push upon since I don't know much about anyone yet. So I'll just assume that koshi is correct about CR's play. I'll stay with this vote until someone more scummy pops out. At Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 18:05 HaruRH wrote:After diving SnB, I realised the pool is so shallow theres no need to bring a snorkel. So here's why SnB makes me wanna lynch the scum out of him: On June 11 2014 23:41 strongandbig wrote:
Finished reading through page 48 on phone
Have to go to work
Some notes to calm thy tits, thread:
Townish:
- chromatically
Scummish:
- palmar not trying on day 1
- koshi for pretty random townreads and listpost
- rainbows bad reasoning for scum read on koshi. Tries to make something shitty up, indicates he's not comfortable just agreeing with good reasoning already posted - indicates selfconscious mafia.
Good args:
- chromatically on why sinani is scum
- mz on why round is scum
- koshi on why tica is scum
- (sort of good) round on why ketomi is scum On June 12 2014 04:55 strongandbig wrote:
Blergh caught up with the thread and lunch is over
[complain about spam, maybe if I do it more it's likely to work]
Anyway, I would kill koshi right now. Don't have anything new to add, I like chromatic ally's case
Also would still kill rainbows soo... He thinks koshi makes good arguments, then want to lynch koshi. On June 12 2014 04:17 strongandbig wrote:On June 11 2014 13:31 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 13:26 Chairman Ray wrote:On June 11 2014 13:23 batsnacks wrote:
Chairman, without reading the above post, I really wish both your posts about me weren't perfectly sequential dissections of literally everything I said. Sorry, I'll try to keep it brief from now on. You can just read the "Overall" statement at the end Look I like everything you said I think it's great. I read the whole thing. You got an A+ on your homework for sure. I really, really, really hate that you commented on everything I said in the order I said it in both posts though. If you are mafia which I think you probably are, that's the only thing you should have changed to make it better. This is stupid. There's nothing wrong with an in-depth post by post analysis and the fact that newer players don't know this is just a sign of how spammy and annoying the meta has gotten . Then he shitposts. ALL. Then, this haru guy dont even defend himself Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 20:43 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 20:31 marvellosity wrote:
by and large Haru was very earnest and straightforward in Detention (as well as kinda fun at the start), whereas i'm not really seeing any of that here. So you're meta-ing me based on 1 game? Lol thats the reason why I'm changing now, to avoid further meta reads. Not going to streamline my play into 1 category lol Thus I deduce this haru guy is scum 100%. ##Vote: HaruRH Oh my God. How did nobody look at the before, what in God's name is this terrible post. Haru posted this when somebody said they wanted to lynch him D1 for not contributing (or something). This is his response. Haru literally just quotes posts he made and says "I contribute a lot". This is actually fine, but examine for a moment the way he goes about it. The post is completely sarcastic and not serious. Imagine Haru is town and is under pressure for not contributing. I don't think the response is the same. Mafia Haru is nervous, doesn't want his self-defense to be overly defending himself because that's what mafia do--hard defend themselves against small allegations. Instead, he chooses to guise his post in sarcasm in order to alleviate tension. This post screams mafia insecurity.
'Hey Haru can you answer this with a post -' you know what? I might not be able to... JUST KIDDING
On June 12 2014 21:05 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 20:58 marvellosity wrote:On June 12 2014 20:57 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 20:47 marvellosity wrote:On June 12 2014 20:43 HaruRH wrote:On June 12 2014 20:31 marvellosity wrote:
by and large Haru was very earnest and straightforward in Detention (as well as kinda fun at the start), whereas i'm not really seeing any of that here. So you're meta-ing me based on 1 game? Lol thats the reason why I'm changing now, to avoid further meta reads. Not going to streamline my play into 1 category lol well if i thought you had been at all useful besides, the meta wouldn't matter... Hey marv if you wanna meta me, you need to re-read my posts to even use it as meta Heres a short little rap by me to show you what I mean On May 27 2014 12:07 HaruRH wrote:On May 27 2014 12:02 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 27 2014 12:01 HaruRH wrote:On May 27 2014 11:59 27ninjabunnies wrote:On May 27 2014 11:56 HaruRH wrote:On May 27 2014 11:54 jabberwockzerg wrote:
Delicately, must I awkwardly introduce all of my posts and then just get on with them I think that doing anything else other than leaving the subject as it is will make you an even likelier target for scrumm. Change the topic quickly I dont understand how this post had anything to do with what my case was on him? Nothing to do with it at all, just a crap post with no meaning other than for jabber to not feel so awkward with every post he makes To me, it seemed as if you were coaching him to change the topic in order to get pressure off of him. Why would you want to do that? I play with no targets in mind For the first day where it is still fun I only suspect But I do not attack I will not paint a target on the first day Because tails only show at night And thus we can hang those who Are deduced to be one next day No need to pressure in the first day, in my view Lynching him is still our aim, thus I will i have no idea what you're trying to say. i don't care for you sitting around arguing with me about your previous game. I have no idea what are you trying to do here too marv. Firstly, you scumread me for not playing like the last game, to which I explain nothing much changed except for my attitude, even citing examples, and yet you dont care about arguing about my previous game....??? In what way are you supposed to be useful on d1? I'm not the type to scumread people based on 2 real life day worth of content, with no methods of deducing anything at all. Not everyone play like you all do.
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On June 14 2014 07 :08 Rainbows wrote:
Haru is Mafia for the following reasons:
- Blatant insecurity about his image, using sarcasm in order to deflect pressure off of himself. Calling his votes placeholders do he does not have to commit.
wow great argument such wow
I don't even want to find a quote that answers this, find it by yourself in my filter.
On June 14 2014 07 :08 Rainbows wrote:
- Ignoring the KotC case completely. Town would probably weigh in, but scum are afraid to be wishy-washy about the issue concerning their scum partner. Scum do not want to vote their guy, OR appear to not want to vote him. Avoidance is the best way to do this.
*Yawn* I'll be a kind soul and put this out for you
oh wait youre using my own point against me, good job rainbows :D you learnt
On June 13 2014 19:42 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2014 19:38 marvellosity wrote:On June 13 2014 19:37 HaruRH wrote:On June 13 2014 19:36 marvellosity wrote:On June 13 2014 19:35 HaruRH wrote:On June 13 2014 19:32 marvellosity wrote:
it's nothing to do with sheeping me
it's totally disappearing after being active when i made my case
it's not contributing anything to the thread while kotc wagon was taking place
it's lazy +1 of some random case later No. I watched the world cup (after sheeping chrom because I dont have time to read) with friends and slept after that for 12 hours. I have just finished catching up with the thread and will post my stuff later, when I'm on a computer. Of course, you can choose not to believe me. World cup wasn't on during that time period. World cup opening ceremony wasn't until about 7pm my time ??? World cup started right when the lynch happened. I was already gone 1 hour before it. That's not when I was talking about. I'm talking about how you were active RIGHT UP to the point I made my case on KotC and then you disappeared for many hours. Could well be coincidence. Could also not be. Sorry, I had no interest to read any of your cases at that point because I was quite pissed. I don't even know the reason for lynching kotc, I just assumed what chrom said was true and it was a giant sheepfest. coincidence or not, I believed my initial vote, snb to be more scummy and since everyone decided to go off the wagon, I chose chrom to sheep.
On June 14 2014 07 :08 Rainbows wrote:
- Keeping multiple avenues open during D1 for lynches. Town do this, so do I, I didn't care if we lynched like 10 different people. But Haru posts very thin or nonsensical reasons for his 'suspects' (CR gaining towncred later with koshi pressure lolwut). Town would just be like "ok ill lynch this guy because lurk / because shitpost / because giant douche". The way Haru tries to rationalize the CR vote makes little sense to me. ALL of his votes have been either "not serious" (Koshi, himself) or really bad reasoning (CR), or epic sheepmode on Ritosky.
I felt like I answered this so many times that I could get an emmy for best script, so I don't even want to answer that.
It is stinking obvious to me that rainbows tunnelled so hard to try and squeeze out points from my filter. He even went so far to ignore out all the arguments I raised for my own work, and even when other, more credible people chose to question me, I could answer them. Why didn't he read my filter properly, you ask.
Rainbows: 30% -> 50% scumrating increased! Level up!
BUT WAIT, THATS NOT ALL!
I've captured another tunnelling rat with rainbows! :D
On June 14 2014 04:44 Chromatically wrote:Sadly I don't have very much time, and I'm not even going to be here at deadline, so here's quickly where I'm at. Haru and ritoky are my top two scum for reasons already stated. Since I haven't said as much about Haru, his posting is basically useless and he doesn't at all look like he's trying to solve the game. His post on SnB (which was posted when SnB was the main wagon) is the epitome of this, his reasoning is really poor and he's essentially trying to look like he's not sheeping. Show nested quote +On June 12 2014 18:05 HaruRH wrote:After diving SnB, I realised the pool is so shallow theres no need to bring a snorkel. So here's why SnB makes me wanna lynch the scum out of him: On June 11 2014 23:41 strongandbig wrote:
Finished reading through page 48 on phone
Have to go to work
Some notes to calm thy tits, thread:
Townish:
- chromatically
Scummish:
- palmar not trying on day 1
- koshi for pretty random townreads and listpost
- rainbows bad reasoning for scum read on koshi. Tries to make something shitty up, indicates he's not comfortable just agreeing with good reasoning already posted - indicates selfconscious mafia.
Good args:
- chromatically on why sinani is scum
- mz on why round is scum
- koshi on why tica is scum
- (sort of good) round on why ketomi is scum On June 12 2014 04:55 strongandbig wrote:
Blergh caught up with the thread and lunch is over
[complain about spam, maybe if I do it more it's likely to work]
Anyway, I would kill koshi right now. Don't have anything new to add, I like chromatic ally's case
Also would still kill rainbows soo... He thinks koshi makes good arguments, then want to lynch koshi. On June 12 2014 04:17 strongandbig wrote:On June 11 2014 13:31 batsnacks wrote:On June 11 2014 13:26 Chairman Ray wrote:On June 11 2014 13:23 batsnacks wrote:
Chairman, without reading the above post, I really wish both your posts about me weren't perfectly sequential dissections of literally everything I said. Sorry, I'll try to keep it brief from now on. You can just read the "Overall" statement at the end Look I like everything you said I think it's great. I read the whole thing. You got an A+ on your homework for sure. I really, really, really hate that you commented on everything I said in the order I said it in both posts though. If you are mafia which I think you probably are, that's the only thing you should have changed to make it better. This is stupid. There's nothing wrong with an in-depth post by post analysis and the fact that newer players don't know this is just a sign of how spammy and annoying the meta has gotten . Then he shitposts. Other scum could be ObiWan and gumshoe. I didn't have a problem with ObiWan earlier, mainly because he was posting a lot and it sounded fairly townie, but looking in his filter, most of his posts don't actually say anything. He voted on Cats, but didn't comment on the case at all and left room for him to back out if it looked like momentum was tipping. gumshoe's posts also don't look like they're trying to find scum/saying much. Then there's {Slam, kush, sandroba, VA}, who I think are mostly unreadable for one reason or another. Slam I think is more likely to be mafia because of what I said earlier. VA is more likely to be town because he tipped the lynch from 6-6 SnB vs Cats to 6-7, where he could have jumped on Cats instead (of course, it's possible he could have just seen the momentum (and/or SnB is mafia)).
Now for extra towncreds, help me pull out stuff from my filter that answers this ton of question. (Hint: more than half my post does this)
On June 14 2014 07:43 Chairman Ray wrote:
@Rainbows
Thinking the same thing regarding Haru. I was gonna post a case on him tomorrow when I have a good chunk of free time, but looks like you've done most of the work for me ^^. Just a couple things I would like to add though.
Firstly his case against me. I was sort of bothered by how he thought I was attacking Koshi. My case was defending Koshi, but with some comments earlier about some things in Koshi's post that read scummy to me. This seems to me like he didn't really read it fully. It would make sense is Haru already knew that he's going to give a scumread on me, and then looked through my filter to find something, started reading up until the point where I say Koshi is sorta scummy, and then assumed the rest was gonna be the same.
After that, everything he did at the end of the day was really fishy. Firstly when SnB became the leading vote, Haru posted his case on him. There were many cases posted on why SnB may be scum, so if Haru read them and agreed with them, as town he would just say he agrees and put in a vote. If Haru didn't read the cases on SnB, then by some coincidence, out of everyone he investigated, he came up with same conclusion as the current wagon at the same time as well. But if this were the case, his read on SnB would be a lot more detailed and actually explain some evidence of SnB's alignment. Since it's neither, what would make the most sense is that Haru saw that the wagon was on SnB, and wanted to vote SnB looking like he investigated it himself.
Next thing, I find it odd as well how he completely avoided the whole discussion on KotC, but then Chrom put in a read on ritoky, in which Haru jumped on the vote right away.
now CR, I understand your Marginal Propensity to Sheep (MPS) is greater than 1, thus you're elastic to sheeping, so please just get out of here.
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