TL 'Order' LXVI Mafia

On June 06 2014 07:40 Palmar wrote:

why not /in?

On June 11 2014 05:50 roundabound wrote:

Try English.
And Logic.

But, like, seriously, like, what does this, like, even, like, mean?.....Like

On June 11 2014 05:56 roundabound wrote:

I wanna bait this post so badly and see who is the first to call out obiwan for this shitty shit shitterson of a post because it's so easy to hammer him on the lack of anything logical or tangible here. The post is too scummy to be written by scum

On June 11 2014 06:04 Tehpoofter wrote:


This post is Howling like a boss.

On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:


what was your post then

On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote:
the deepest one in the nest

On June 11 2014 06:23 sinani206 wrote:


Because staying out of the conversation is the best way to be a useful townie.

On June 11 2014 06:22 sinani206 wrote:

Is explaining a post that someone just voted you for overdefensive?

On June 11 2014 06:34 batsnacks wrote:


Have you seen the voting thread lately?

On June 11 2014 06:33 Tehpoofter wrote:



Yeah that post did look really really weird. The second one you quoted at least. Kinda wolfy unless its a villager breadcrumbing or something.

Speaking of breadcrumbs: + Show Spoiler +

On June 11 2014 06:41 sinani206 wrote:


Sorry can you clarify which third, second, first posts you are referring to? I'm kinda lost here.

On June 11 2014 06:39 Chromatically wrote:

I was joking about the second post, I figured out what it meant. I was being serious about the first and third posts, thought.

Why do you think the second post is scummy?

On June 11 2014 06:46 Tehpoofter wrote:


Cause I didn't know what it meant and it seemed to be designed to send a signal one way or another.... (I don't know a lot about Star Wars tbh so if it has something to do with the Lore it went over my head)

On June 11 2014 06:49 TicaTica wrote:

Nisani und sinani be known lurkers irregardless of randed roll.

On June 11 2014 06:31 sinani206 wrote:


I wanted to know the answer because I would react in a similar way if someone voted for me. Maybe more concisely, as I did when you voted for me, perhaps, but it doesn't seem wrong for Round to defend himself.

The nicknames = mafia thing was just a waste of time and I was pointing out bat's hypocrisy.

On June 11 2014 06:49 TicaTica wrote:

Nisani und sinani be known lurkers irregardless of randed roll.

On June 11 2014 07:27 Tehpoofter wrote:


Can I talk too? What would you expect sinani to have said to make him villagery? Is it just that he doesn't seem concerned with JAT's answer to his question?

On June 11 2014 06:46 sinani206 wrote:
Might as well say that having seen more of Rounds posting, I'm not as convinced as the rest of you seem to be that he's mafia yet. I think I'm going to need more evidence. It is rather early, and he already has enough pressure votes on him.

On June 11 2014 06:50 sinani206 wrote:


Mostly one-liners and wishy washy, I don't really have time right now to quote because I have a meeting at 2:50 but if he keeps this kind of useless posting up I can see a chance of him being red.

On June 11 2014 07:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:

Absolutely agree with bat, roundabound's response was incredibly scummy.

I just reread Chris's filter and I don't see anything that nearly resembles a serious push so idk what to say.

Did you play cell? That's what I was talking about with ritoky. It was a joke.

On June 11 2014 08:03 Koshi wrote:
Town, or not lynchable till D3 for myself:
ObiWanShinobi:
Looks fine for now. Till I found everybody town he is town. + fast vote (not quoted). + optimism about fast vote (not quoted).
+ Show Spoiler +

Chairman Ray:
Not an awkward entrance. I am cool with CR. Also a case that looks coming from town .
+ Show Spoiler +

TehPoofter:
Town for being around joyfully. This post is unlikely comming from scumPoofter. First it is totally random, secondly he promises to spam:
+ Show Spoiler +

roundabound:
Not on the lynchtable because is progressing the game. Could be more friendly while doing so though. I do not agree with some of the points he makes and I saw him completely missinterpret a post. But I do'n't think he is scum purposely shitting up the thread so he is town for now.
+ Show Spoiler +


awkward corner aka might lynch will watch:
Chromatically:
I don't like how he entered the thread. I don't like how he pushing sinani so hard. I don't like it because I don't see it. I can see the point he makes about entering the game with a pointless question trying to blend in. But I don't like how Chrom is blowing these questions up trying to twist it into mafia mindset. Did sinani enter the thread with a question? yes. Did it show mafia mindset. No. The question he asked JAT wasn't what Chrom is making it out to be. It was a pretty legit question. Somebody votes for Robik --> Robik replies --> Somebody says Robik is overdefensive --> sinani doesn't agree that Robik was overdefensive. I have now read Sinani his filter three times. I am puzzled by his filter. I do not see how Chrom can have such a strong scumread on Sinani that he is asking everybody to sheep him.

tldr: Awkward entrance + Too strong scumread.
+ Show Spoiler +

TicaTica:
Entrance to the thread with a soft defense, a one-liner that looks extremely hard like an attempt to get towncred from those who he defends. the intention behind the entire post screams: Hi guys, I am town because I am helping. The buddying with marv makes me uncomfortable. Rest of filter is filler.
+ Show Spoiler +

##vote: TicaTica

On June 11 2014 10:11 Tehpoofter wrote:


What do you think of Koshi's alignment? Is he making this post as a villager or a wolf?

On June 11 2014 10:19 yamato77 wrote:

Your case on sinani is not good. You got them wolf eyes.

On June 11 2014 08:03 Koshi wrote:
Chromatically:
I don't like how he entered the thread. I don't like how he pushing sinani so hard. I don't like it because I don't see it. I can see the point he makes about entering the game with a pointless question trying to blend in. But I don't like how Chrom is blowing these questions up trying to twist it into mafia mindset. Did sinani enter the thread with a question? yes. Did it show mafia mindset. No. The question he asked JAT wasn't what Chrom is making it out to be. It was a pretty legit question. Somebody votes for Robik --> Robik replies --> Somebody says Robik is overdefensive --> sinani doesn't agree that Robik was overdefensive. I have now read Sinani his filter three times. I am puzzled by his filter. I do not see how Chrom can have such a strong scumread on Sinani that he is asking everybody to sheep him.

tldr: Awkward entrance + Too strong scumread.
+ Show Spoiler +

On June 11 2014 22:48 Koshi wrote:
Building on to Chromatically:
Sadly the scrubs in this thread see Chrom as town. The reasons I gave to why Chrom are scum are obviously totally ignored, yet nobody is voting for Sinani.
Chrom meta:
GoT game. Chrom does nothing else but tunnel S0lstice this game. Nobody else found s0lstice scummy but Chrom just kept going and going and it was all fine and dandy. So it's not impossible for scum!Chrom do to what he is doing.
Do other people see why Sinani is scum? Is Chrom his case exaggerated? If it isn't, why aren't you supporting it? I tell you again, I read that Chrom case, I read Sinani filter multiple times and I DO NOT SEE IT. I do not see the "scummy mindset" that Chrom is portraying.

Detention mafia. Latest towngame from Chrom. The tunneling seems to be not mafia indicative for Chrom. Somewhere I want to believe that in his towngame Chrom asked people what they found of his Gobble case while in this game he just asks marv to vote with him but it might be the same thing and I am biased.

tldr: I didn't like how Chrom entered the thread. Which made me look at his filter. I wanted to see what Chrom would do if I pressured him on his Sinani read. Chrom decided to trow some more suspicion on me with generic reasons to why I am mafia. Do I still think he needs to be watched? Yes.

On June 11 2014 08:03 Koshi wrote:
I have now read Sinani his filter three times. I am puzzled by his filter. I do not see how Chrom can have such a strong scumread on Sinani that he is asking everybody to sheep him.

On June 11 2014 22:48 Koshi wrote:
Also do you remember MZ saying that he read Chrome his filter and didn't understand what Chromes case on Sinani was about? My "scumread" on Chrome is based on that same fact. The fact that Chrome is pushing Sinani pretty mehly.

On June 12 2014 01:19 Koshi wrote:
It's not a contradiction.

It was pretty obvious Chrom was pushing Sinani. He can't downplay that push at all.
The second time I toned it down to "mehly" because that represented the way MZ talked about the push and I took it over so that it looks like MZ shared my opinion on the Chrom push yet called my post bad.

On June 12 2014 01:21 Koshi wrote:
I am not even pushing for his lynch. Sorry I dared to say something bad about him. Sorry for trying to pressure him.

I GOT IT CHROM

I AM NOT ALLOWED TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT YOU.

SORRY BRO

OUTRAAAAGGGGEEEEE.

On June 12 2014 01:28 Koshi wrote:

It are actually 2 different points I raise. You shouldn't link them together.

1) I say your read on Sinani was too strong (I don't believe you can have a read that strong so early)
2) I say your push was not convincing anybody. aka mehly.

On June 11 2014 22:48 Koshi wrote:
Also do you remember MZ saying that he read Chrome his filter and didn't understand what Chromes case on Sinani was about? My "scumread" on Chrome is based on that same fact. The fact that Chrome is pushing Sinani pretty mehly.

On June 12 2014 01:36 ExO_ wrote:


Why should his read on you matter?

On June 12 2014 01:21 Koshi wrote:
I am not even pushing for his lynch. Sorry I dared to say something bad about him. Sorry for trying to pressure him.

I GOT IT CHROM

I AM NOT ALLOWED TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT YOU.

SORRY BRO

OUTRAAAAGGGGEEEEE.

On June 12 2014 01:43 Koshi wrote:

In my very first post. If I posted that you pushed Sinani unconvincingly and that your scumread was too strong for the time being than I am good. Otherwise you might have a point.

Anyway, I am totally town and I am posting what I see. You can call it fabricated, grasping and desperate. I shouldn't care.

If you have no interest to communicate before you go call me the 100% lynch for today. I don' tsee the point in you communicating with me now. Go push it then. It is already 100%. You want to go for 150%? Kinda dumb and unnecessarily. I don't even see what that "trap" is supposed to be btw. No my read didn't change. You should be watched. Closely.

So. You and me are done. You made that clear with this:
"Koshi is scum, we are lynching him today. He is completely fabricating his read on me and desperately trying to find things to support it."

On June 12 2014 02:11 Koshi wrote:

You have me as scum 100%.

Go push your read.

On June 12 2014 01:47 ExO_ wrote:


EBWOP

I meant to say but I think you're either misrepresenting or misinterpreting what he said. Not I don't think.

On June 12 2014 02:37 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
Chrom. You said that your case on Sinani was "a very early-game case, and certainly not cause for a "strong scumread"". If that's the case then how do you explain this post?

On June 12 2014 02:44 justanothertownie wrote:

I don't like this guy.

On June 12 2014 03:36 ritoky wrote:
Idk, I don't think Koshi's suspicions of Chrom are completely unwarranted. I found this interaction very strange:



At the time, I don't feel like JAT had done anything that was alignment indicative in the slightest, so I don't really know why Chrom would ping sinani for a read on him. I just think in some regards you were baiting him.

However, sinani's response is pretty horrible imo. It reads forced, noncommittal, and not really substantive.

I think JAT was right to pounce on it and for good reason and I think he seems more town for it.

On June 12 2014 04:22 ritoky wrote:


And I didn't like your explanation.

JAT made a joke/dodged sinani's question and you have this expectation of him that he was supposed to get a strong read off of it. His response is crap, but sinani says he dodged it and has to go. Then you criticize him for not scum hunting.....the guy just said he was leaving?

On June 12 2014 05:08 ritoky wrote:


You're right, we should all start hunting scum while we have no accessibility to the thread.

Also, you contradicted yourself in here. Just sayin.

I don't particularly like sinani's response either, as I said, it was forced noncommittal, and lacked substance. But I do agree with Koshi to some degree; I think your asking of the question in the first place is suspect. And then your follow-up is way too strong in proportion, it reeks of TMI to me.

On June 12 2014 06:48 ritoky wrote:


Idk, I am reading the thread fairly similarly to koshi. Maybe not so much on who he thought was town in his earlier posts, but his top 2 scum reads are MZ and chrom, and I agree with both; chrom for similar reasons, MZ for somewhat meta reasons.

The response of the read by chrom is just off. He gets wayyyyyy too strong of a scum read off of nearly nothing from sinani, it just doesn't sit well at all.

And in regards to MZ, all he said in response to my freedom post (which was specifically directed at him) was "good to see ritokys town". I expected at least a murrica joke or picture in response. But moreso he just oozed town last game and I don't get those same vibes from him. Plus his posting style is much different, much more restrained. Just feels off.

On June 12 2014 07:35 ritoky wrote:


Your logic here is circular. I just said chrom was mafia about 30 seconds ago. I think he either knew sinani was town and was trying to get in easy points or he knew sinani was mafia and was trying to bus early, either way the scope of chrom's reaction is bs and he is probably scum.

And question it is being generous. He didn't really question it, he just claimed massive scum read.

On June 12 2014 08:42 ritoky wrote:






Here are just a few, I can keep going if you would like.

You got such a strong read that you pinged everyone in the thread for their thoughts on him too. And you take the time to mention how he is scum in most of your posts. I would call that a disproportionately strong read from not very much.

On June 12 2014 09:22 ritoky wrote:


OMGUS, the scum hunting mindset you been talking about?

Look, if you don't think that calling someone mafia for simply defending sianni (tiatica) qualifies you as having a strong read on sianni, then it is a difference of definitions. I think the proof is easily read in your filter.

On June 12 2014 09:49 ritoky wrote:


Because I feel that the case I have already made follows very easily if you view what you gave as a strong read. I think you did.

I can say it again, but it isn't going to change. I think you gave a disproportionately strong read on sianni from a pretty inconclusive response (I thought it was slightly scummy at best). In order to make said conclusion from not very much I feel you have extra information. The only people with extra information right now are mafia. Since then you've done nothing to alleviate my worries about you, you've been hard defending and OMGUSing (which is completely contrary to the scum hunting mindset you were critical of sianni for).

And how is this not the exact same thing that you were critical of sianni for?





You just did the same exact non-committal thing. "Could be red, wait and see what happens"; that's not the scum hunting mindset you were preaching.

On June 12 2014 10:28 ritoky wrote:


Your read is exactly the same as the bolded portion. And hypocrisy and inconsistency can be scum mindset indicators, so I think they are relevant.

And personally I don't think you have a case, hence why I think it is an OMGUS. You're defensive and OMGUSing which is the opposite of the mindset you were pushing others to have. All of that just adds depth.

On June 13 2014 03:33 Bill Murray wrote:
"ritoky has talked about literally nothing else other than me (and occasionally MZ), which is absolutely ridiculous from a town perspective"

not true; i've talked about him.

Furthermore, I find the entirety of your case to be fabricating, and stretching... because it is OMGUS, so you are tunneled in on him. It lead you to have a bad case.

On June 13 2014 03:40 justanothertownie wrote:

Slam told you already but in case you didn't get it - kotc is not new. He is from OMGUS. Any other reason why you would think he is town?

On June 13 2014 03:35 Chromatically wrote:

I'm saying that he has commented on nothing else, which is true. It doesn't matter if you have commented on him.

What about it is fabricated?

On June 13 2014 04:11 Holyflare wrote:


what's this quote supposed to be?

On June 13 2014 04:15 Holyflare wrote:
chrom your ritoky case applies to half the people in the game, why is ritoky pushing on you and sometimes mz different from kotc pushing on batsnacks for the worst reasons known to man? why you push yours over sheep? why you want to be so speshul?

On June 13 2014 04:32 Bill Murray wrote:
sorry, chromatically. your question came right before holy returned with a braveheart quote

how can it not be? there isn't a lot of information to go on with him from what i've read... did he post a lot in between 60-80?

On June 13 2014 04:42 Holyflare wrote:


if you think this town game is anything like the mafia game i linked you need to brush up on your reading comprehension

On June 13 2014 19:22 marvellosity wrote:
So I made my case at 13:22 my time yesterday. Haru had been posting kinda regularly up until that point (7 times in the hour before my case), and then completely stopped posting when I made my case.

He then made 1 lazy +1 vote to Chrome's ritoky case 6 hours later, no reference to anything else.

me-no-likey.

On June 13 2014 05:37 Alakaslam wrote:
Skill

Yeh so I Dinnae switch because I wasn't sure. See he's good enough at town that I don't like him as a d1 lynch.

Feel free to vig me or something if you want.

Otherwise any way I can conftown myself?

On June 13 2014 23:30 Holyflare wrote:


You completely agree with marv on his post about haru, you say there's nothing towny in his filter and his vote makes him look bad.

Is there another word that's supposed to be coming out of your mouth that you just aren't saying?

On June 13 2014 23:32 Holyflare wrote:


I think your votes looked like one of the worst imo

On June 13 2014 23:38 Holyflare wrote:


you spent the whole time talking about your ritoky case (which applied to many other people too but you still only chose ritoky) and then just briefly mentioned cats but you didn't even call him scummy



tbh you clearly didn't even read anything i posted about kush or read his filters properly because you said it looked like the town game when it was worlds apart from it and then when cats was already being voted off and was definitely going to die you joined the wagon even though it was pretty much solid anyway, what was your motivation for that???

On June 13 2014 23:40 TicaTica wrote:
Can we live in reality where Slam's alignment is a complete coin flip? He's been significantly less helpful this game than in a few previous. That's the major thing to note that could be said is even minorly alignment indicative. But any fuckhead who thinks they can read Slam in this game is just off their rocker. He's a fine vigi shot. He's maybe an ok lynch, but let's not bother spending time to actually read and analyze him and instead read and analyze people who are actually readable and discernable. At worst we can alway default to a Slam lynch as is the general omgus policy: "When in doubt, lynch Slam."

On June 12 2014 12:33 ketomai wrote:
ritoky: Currently seems like mafia to me. He's on consistently throughout the day (his posts are very spread out), yet he doesn't really seem to contribute or address the game at all. He's just tunnel visioning Chromatically with nearly all his posts (who I personally have tagged as slightly town, so I naturally disagree with most of what he's saying).

On June 14 2014 00:10 marvellosity wrote:
because it's meaningless as a phrase and concept. making a couple of posts here and there throughout the day is making a couple of posts here and there throughout the day.

actively lurking is just some buzzword jargon that encompasses a whole range of stuff without really having any implications.

I mean if you think he's disconnected from the game or around and yet not engaging, stick to calling it that, that actually has meaning

On June 14 2014 00:16 marvellosity wrote:

it's definitely possible he is mafia

i already said on d1 why i was hesitant about lynching him then, and Foolish also said some stuff.

On June 12 2014 21:41 marvellosity wrote:
for reference i have temporarily discounted ritoky because although i find his "reeks of TMI" stuff really odd, in some way he didn't understand why it was odd and seemed quite angry I didn't understand, and also his posts in plenty of parts seem pretty direct. so maybe he is mafia but maybe also those could be reasons he isn't.

On June 13 2014 08:24 mattisfoolish wrote:
I think ritoky is town because he seems confident in his posting and is putting his thoughts out. I saw someone say that he's mafia (this was a while ago) so I decided to look into it. Honestly I think this guy got some heat in a recent game as well when he was town and I'm noticing a similar sort of pattern. I also don't get the feeling that he's hiding anything in his posting.

On June 12 2014 18:05 HaruRH wrote:
After diving SnB, I realised the pool is so shallow theres no need to bring a snorkel. So here's why SnB makes me wanna lynch the scum out of him:





soo... He thinks koshi makes good arguments, then want to lynch koshi.



Then he shitposts.

On June 14 2014 18:08 ExO_ wrote:
I've taken the time to go back over the end of the day 1 voting, looking for things that might stick out. I think Alakaslam still might be mafia, but I'm not as convinced as I first was when I was reading on my phone. He might just be a spammy bastard.

But I think Chromatically is mafia.

At June 12 2014 13:31 Chrom votes ritoky. At this point the train on KotC is in full swing, and he's up to 9 votes. It's looking like he's going to be lynched. 2 Hours prior however, the vote count was only at 4 for KotC. So a lot of votes moved all at once. 1 hour later at June 12 2014 14:31 Chrom hops on the train.

What's interesting is Chrom's posts in this one hour block.

Before I get to the hour block, lets take a look at some of Chrom's earlier posts. His first vote on Sinani is preceded by this:


It almost seems like a sarcastic joke to me at first, to vote Sinani for such an arbitrary reason. Going from page 1-2 of his filter though, he continues to push Sinani pretty hard. Koshi notices this, and calls him Chrom out on it. Chrom clams up after this, asking Yamato for a read on himself. To me this seems like a concerned mafia. The real gold comes after that though:



Sound familiar? It seems to me he did to Sinani exactly what he said Koshi was doing to him. After this going from page 2-3 on his filter, he continues to freak out at Koshi a bit. Just like with Yamato, he asks Koshi about Koshi's read on himself. To me, it looks like Chrom is very worried about what everyone thinks about him. Regarding Koshi, he even goes on to say:



He's literally putting words into Koshi's mouth, saying that he's town. The banter with Koshi goes on for a little bit, and he starts asking for reads on Koshi. At the bottom of page 3 of his filter he says:



Followed by:



This part isn't super relevant to my case, but I'm pointing it out here in case my case turns out to be correct. Ketomai has been suspected quite a bit, and here Chrom isn't exactly defending him but he is lightly trying to divert attention off of Ketomai. He's not joining any trains of thought against Keto though.

Right before the "magic hour" I referred to earlier, we see Chrom trying to divert away from cats with:



and



That's just about all he had to say about cats, sorta in what I would call a "yeah yeah, but!" fashion. He doesn't want to say the case against cats is bad, but he doesn't want to encourage it either, and I think this post is a great way to try to push another case while acknowledging the cats case as little as possible.

So we finally get to this hour. I understand at this point the voting is nearing its end. But chrom posts 12 times, his biggest concentration of posts yet. I won't quote all 12 posts, you can eaisly find them on his filter and they're going to clog this already clogged post. From 13:31 to 14:11 he was heavily pushing ritoky, I think in a desperate attempt to get the focus off king and onto somebody else. He gave it one last effort here:



But after this point I think he and the mafia saw the writing on the wall. So after 14:11 it's damage control mode.








I think after 14:11, Chrom accepted that he was going to lose a teammate and decided that transitioning to the KotC wagon was his best move to stay alive. He never really says why he agrees with the KotC case, or anything about it really. Not even in the same ballpark as how much he said about Ritoky. Based on what I've presented here, I think we should lynch Chrom next. I'm not 100% sure, but short of being the seer I don't think there is a 100% sure in this game. Perhaps I'm naive in thinking mafia would switch an obvious mafia vote once it was determined it was unavoidable that mafia would die. But I think I'd try to do something similar if I was mafia, especially on the day 1 lynch. So that's my piece, let me know what you think. I think if you read chrom's filter since the lynching, he's pretty obviously trying to divert people from suspecting him. But for a townie, he sure is thinking an awful lot like a mafia.

##Vote Chromatically

On June 15 2014 03:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
last time i checked the robsta hydra had marv as scum because dont think about it or youll find the plot holes.

On June 14 2014 19:52 ritoky wrote:
i had to skim some of the thread because i am getting tired an need to sleep in time to wake up for world cup matches.

the basics of what i got from the stuff since i have been gone are this:

marv - town as fuk

Chrom - still mafia, dunno how it isn't blatantly apparent. i mean look at his attempted push off of his scum teammate onto me, then he just gives up when he realizes it has no traction and tries to buy back some town cred. he doesn't even give a good reason when he switches back, he just does it cuz it is the thing people are doing. not a town mindset in the slightest.

i am not really sure what that makes HaruRH though. cuz i am pretty certain the chrom was mafia trying to start an OMGUS push against what he perceived as low hanging fruit to bail out his teammate. i haven't really figured out whether the mafia would commit 2 people to that push to try and get it going or if Haru legit had a crappy town read and sheeped. he's someone who's filter i would like to examine after sleep.

Koshi - i actually like koshi a lot less now than i did yesterday simply for 1 comment he made: "thread sentiment". now i get when you tunnel on someone who you think is mafia really hard and everyone else who you read as town sees thinks the guy you're tunneling on is town; and doubts can start to creep into your tunnel. but (at least for me) that happens down the line a bit a couple or more days, and usually accompanied with said explanation. but he just backed out of the read on chrom and some of his other ones a bit too fast. i don't know if i would call him scum by any means, but his stock be falling for me. idk, flipping a read for "thread sentiment" doesn't seem very town mindsetty...just seems like caring about appearance.

and i don't remember who asked the question that prompted that response, but they just seemed okay with it afterwards, like it wasn't an odd response. idk about that.

Thepoofter - i think i will have a solid read on banks towards the end of the day. i have played 2 games with him, both he has been mafia, and both he did 100% the exact same thing on day 2. so either he will or he won't and i will read him based on that.

Exo - the only other person who seems to have also noticed this deflection push of chrom's, he is probably town. i like his case added on top of mine.

tl;dr - chrom still mafia + deflection push off his mafia buddy; haru needs a filter dive for being 2nd on deflection push; koshi changing reads cuz of thread sentiment is weird; exo town

On June 15 2014 03:55 roundabound wrote:

So like, marv is most likely town, but the fact that no one is/was in the least bit paranoid about the bus. I will feel infinitely more comfortable with marv if SnB flips town, but based off of his desire to push two people I think have a laclluster performance so far, hes not someone I want to push today.

in fact, if I had a vigi shot, id bang bang SnB as that would give me a lot of info.

On June 15 2014 12:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
hey amiko, lets play rock paper scissors.

since noone else can be assed to play the game.

On June 15 2014 06:55 Rainbows wrote:
Hey guys, I'm back. I was about to go examine some other people to hopefully get the tunnel vision off, but then I saw Haru posted this reply:



SCUM! Haru only wants to let go if I don't threaten to lynch him. This is NOT TOWNIE. Haru is too concerned with self-preservation. He is attempting to bargain with me so that he can live. "As long as you don't call me scum and try to lynch me, I'll do the same". His scumread on me is not predicated on thinking I'm mafia -- if it were, he would not care if I am simultaneously pressuring him. If he wanted to let go, he would just let go. He is mafia that doesn't want to be in the spotlight anymore. SHINE SHINE MUTHAFUCKA

I am not your buddy Haru. You may be sexy and attractive but you are not my friend, pal. SCUM. DIE.

EVERYBODY VOTE HARU. HE IS MAFIA.

On June 15 2014 14:44 ritoky wrote:
I also really want ticatica to get active as he is one of my strongest town reads from a few things, but mostly this post:



This is after he votes on ketomai. I think this post is 100% unnecessary if you are mafia. There's about 10 votes on the guy, he is obviously going down; so if he was mafia I feel like he would just take the free town cred like chrom did. I really want him to get more involved in the game.

On June 17 2014 00:39 marvellosity wrote:
his posting looks reasonably natural and sufficiently diverse to me atm

after colouring in some random names on my spreadsheet, i'm kinda left with this sort of list:

ritoky/sandroba/mattisfoolish/Chairman Ray/strongandbig/ketomai/(holyflare)/(vayne)/(kush)/(ninjabunnies)

On June 17 2014 14:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


you are a very good player.

On June 17 2014 14:56 Holyflare wrote:




what does this meaaaan?

On June 17 2014 15:10 roundabound wrote:
He's saying that it's making him want to lynch MIF not obiwan. You guys can't read for shit.

Unless I'm wrong and I can't read for shit

On June 18 2014 14:26 batsnacks wrote:


Why sandroba and not mattisfoolish?